I do like using them manually tho. From the designers themselves, the option to play anyway you prefer is there so it can fit anyone’s specific style. But I do draw the line with folks who use DVS timecode on CDJs or put the CDJs in battle style (it happens more often than you think).
Using CDJ in dvs mode or like a controller pisses me off alot. Especially for home and bedroom djs . Like you would be good getting a controller tbh if you are looking at a computer screen. $7000+ for it to be a controller doesnt make sense for me.
@@mixx_factorythe option to use the CDJ-3000s as a controller is part of the design because it’s meant to be installed in clubs which may require different types of DJs using the same gear. The same CDJs could be used by Tiesto one night, and then A-Trak on another night. It is financially inefficient to buy them only for use as an HID device when several CDJ models offer the same HID feature for less. But since the CDJ-3000s have a slightly different layout to previous CDJs, I can’t fault someone too hard for purchasing them to master them, even if it’s under HID mode use. If you think about it, this is the gateway that can help folks not stare at that laptop screen after all. Also, with DVS, it grinds my gears when I known HID mode is available, but bc the DJ doesn’t know any better, will bring their timecode USB. But there are times it’s ok, like before a software is supported. The CDJ is a Swiss Army knife that you can use in multiple different configurations. And not trying it out with DJ software actually limits you from exploring other creative functions. Like stems for example.
Just like an old school, DJ had to learn how to use turntables. I still believe that the old school. DJ should learn how to utilize all the new features of a CDJ-3000 and especially the mixers.
"There's no fooling around." Hrm...pretty sure that's called "dj'ing" hahaha! Okay okay, I get it. I feel like that's why so many people are dj'ing now, it's super duper accessible, and there's no room for "shoes in a dryer". In a way, I kind of miss being at a party, and hearing the DJ fix something that's slightly off; takes real skill and finesse. I've been dj'ing for 24 years and I'm going to continue to kill that cue button, just to spite you. ;)
Haha! I don't smash it that hard. 😉 I've never broken any of my cdjs like that. I've repaired my own power button on my mixer though, but it came jenky when I bought it 2nd hand from someone else smashing it! 😂
I agree , how boring would is it pressing a sync button to beatmatch, if that's the only option on a deck these days I wouldn't dj atall. Thank god there's still old stool djs out here that actually do the work when playing, far more refreshing to hear a dj make a few mistakes in a mix so you can tell he isn't using a sync button
@@noddyshiels1397i use sync exclusively. I have more time to select the perfect next track, find perfect loops, work on perfect blending. Why would I want to be distracted by nudging every few seconds? Do you wish deck had pedals so you can manually spin the platters too?
Nobody on the Dance Floor cares about how good your timing is Will You release a jog wheel or how you hit the cue button. All they care about is good music selection. If you think DJing and has something to do with your hand eye coordination then maybe you really don't understand what it is to be a DJ.
@@TheDJLab By that logic let's just get rid of all drummers and put in a drum machines so that BPM will be perfect with no shifts. Concerts can be just a bunch of machines on coffee tables and no humans! Mixing manually and just 'Using the technology" is akin to comparing true singers to those that just lip-sync
@@TheDJLab This is like saying that no one cares about whether art is created by AI or by a human mind. Let's just remove the DJ all together and have AI analyze the dance floor and chose the rights songs, right?
I’m divided on this. Beatmatching is both a skill and enjoyable. I think there’s still a place for DJs wanting to do this and still enjoy all the other benefits the new tech has to offer. I also can see that DJ skills have shifted to other areas like playing with performance pads and effects. Maybe Pioneer should have put a big red light on the back to show the crowd which style of DJ we’re listening to so that we can appreciate the performance based on the method used 😂 Track selection is everything though and that’s really what will get me coming away from a set rating it or not. Wait til they add the AI button which selects and plays tracks for you, I’m calling it now!
If your mixes are tight then it doesn't matter. I just see too many old school DJs that have Sloppy mixes because they really don't have the skill or the ear and they really should be using the technology
All good, unless recordbox says: "Hey Dude, let's put the Beatmarkers somewhere different, because there is a pre-kick before the Drop" and you cannot even change it right in the Software and you're not being able to Beatmatch then. Or your network-cable says "Bye" and there is no Sync anymore. Imagine beeing in a Club without the newest CDJs or doesn't have linked ones. These are the ways fake Djs got exposed in the past... I tend to have control over my Set and work for the art i'm presenting.
Serious? We are supposed to use SYNC now? No way... I used my CDJs for many years using the CUE to drop in and never destroyed it. It's not only to drop in, it is also to decide quickly when I drop in. If I do so with SYNC and the Start-Button like you do it, the track is running and I would have to stop and turn back... No thanks. I think there is a good reason, that pioneer and all other players still have this button 😉
As an old school dog. I have to agree 100% Use the appropriate gear for the job you want vinyl? Use technics sl1200 any version Will do! You want to scratch digital files use the technics with Phase and boom you rocking! You want to use cdj tables use the denon sc6000m Last but not least use the cdj 3000 if you are rich! Also the New micro switches are not as good as like on the cdj 1000 mk2/3 and break easy! New gear means cheap Me on my end i Will sell everything but my analog stuff, stick to the Basics and use phase with the tech's and some fx and Thats that.
This is all well and good, but i like a bit of pressure when i am djing, so that i feel i am doing something.. lol. but point taken. this is why i manually cue my tracks, unless i have to do some prepared set, which most of the time i dont. otherwise i think i will be bored.
i dont use my cue that way, i have always preferred to tap next to the play button with a finger over play. I get what you're saying about not needing to do it at all because of sync but not everyone uses sync. I dont use it because i prefer to manually mix so to keep my timing, i tap the deck next to the play button. Caveat: in not against sync not am i one of those NO SYNC FOR DJ's morons, i just have a preference of playing
I'm telling DJs to stop train Wrecking. If you don't want to use a sync button then go get yourself some CDJ 900s or use your 1200s. Nobody is impressed by a guy who refuses to you sync on brand new gear and every transition is always off. You would be surprised how many seasoned DJs I've seen that have very sloppy mixes.
I usually agree with you but this one is just out of touch. What if they mix music beyond standard quantized electronic music? This is very much a controller dj mindset. Why can’t the vinyl guys mix the way they prefer?
Just fix the beatgrids of these non quantised tracks and sync still works. It can be a bit tedious, but if you only concentrate on points where you'd mix the tracks it's totally doable.
If someone doesn't want to use the sync button, why would they then be required to have motorized platters? Everyone needs to stop with these fake parameters of old school and new school DJ's.Let people play the way they want to play.
But he's right about Chicago.If you are invited out to play, especially on the south side... where house music was created (meaning the original tunes, not the songs that inspired it) and other djs/promoters see that you're using sync... you aren't likely to be invited out to play with anymore.
Only DJ’s will notice how you mix and have an ear for nuances. The general patrons don’t know and don’t care. Regarding sync, I use it when I record a mix that I will post on my socials. I want it to be perfect. When I practice or gig I don’t use sync. In Chicago it’s frowned upon since the standards here are higher and more scrutiny if used
Haha! All the haters being triggered! I used to DJ vinyl 20 years ago. Now I use sync. There's nothing impressive about boasting they hate sync and still manually beatmatch when they sound like shoes in a dryer.
Because using sync takes all the fun out of it and is basically cheating, might aswel just put a playlist/album on if you going to do that or a pre recorded set like most festival dj do !
Good that your on the same level now then and every pilot/plane uses autopilot the pilot literally only takes off and lands the plane, the plane flys its self the rest of time and yes f1 driver are cheating they used to have manual gearboxes so yes there are now cheating @Q-TEK
What has that got to do with djing?? Driving a car or plane is nothing like djing , and if want to be bored to tears by beat syncing tracks together, then go ahead. In my opinion its pish, it takes all the creativity out of djing @Q-TEK
what I'm trying to say is by the way you got a nice setup what I'm trying to say is I'ma scratch DJ but I don't go to far for like scratching every time to do my mix that get boring but I have to use like effects are just go old school blend in 2 track like 1 track playing instrumental and the 2nd track playing acapella that how I rocked the crowd @@TheDJLab
I’m an old dj with 3 cdj-3000’s and a djm-v10 along with 2 1210’s a couple rotary mixers and a Z2 but I’m not going to tell anybody how to use they stuff. Lol.
Maybe I am a hater. Why does Gordon Ramsay sound like he's about to lose his fucking mind every time he talks to someone on Hell's Kitchen? Do you think it's his personality or do you think It's part of his character for the show. Not everybody has to play the nice guy on TV.
Watch my videos where I play records on my 12s. I'm 50 and have been DJing since I was 10. I don't need to play with the old gear and do it the new way. The next time you want to comment on my channel, I suggest you sharpen your pencil and write me a letter and send it by mail, seeing as you like to be such an old-school guy.
This is the dumbest thing ever, I guy using the sync button, trying to tell somebody how to play and use a CDJ. Here’s a tip for you TheDjLab. As long as they’re not using your equipment CTFU
CTFU ? I think you meant STFU. Thanks for taking the time to express your feelings. Please don't tell me you are the guy who bought top if the line gear and still use it like you're in the 70s. Do you still carry around your little black book with your phone numbers in your pocket with your iPhone? I never mind people expressing their views, but really don't get why you send a message like this. It's not a good look on you.
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I do like using them manually tho. From the designers themselves, the option to play anyway you prefer is there so it can fit anyone’s specific style. But I do draw the line with folks who use DVS timecode on CDJs or put the CDJs in battle style (it happens more often than you think).
As long as they can beat match.. lol
Cdjs in battle style? I’m trying this out of pure curiosity 😂😂😂😂
Using CDJ in dvs mode or like a controller pisses me off alot. Especially for home and bedroom djs . Like you would be good getting a controller tbh if you are looking at a computer screen. $7000+ for it to be a controller doesnt make sense for me.
CDJ in battle style . I would love to see that. 🤣
@@mixx_factorythe option to use the CDJ-3000s as a controller is part of the design because it’s meant to be installed in clubs which may require different types of DJs using the same gear. The same CDJs could be used by Tiesto one night, and then A-Trak on another night. It is financially inefficient to buy them only for use as an HID device when several CDJ models offer the same HID feature for less. But since the CDJ-3000s have a slightly different layout to previous CDJs, I can’t fault someone too hard for purchasing them to master them, even if it’s under HID mode use. If you think about it, this is the gateway that can help folks not stare at that laptop screen after all.
Also, with DVS, it grinds my gears when I known HID mode is available, but bc the DJ doesn’t know any better, will bring their timecode USB. But there are times it’s ok, like before a software is supported.
The CDJ is a Swiss Army knife that you can use in multiple different configurations. And not trying it out with DJ software actually limits you from exploring other creative functions. Like stems for example.
This obviously only applies if you’re using sync but if you’re a more skilled DJ and you’re timing is good than the old school way is the way to go.
If you are an old school DJ, then I still think it looks better to play vinyl. Or at least do time code.
@@TheDJLab yes if you’re playing at home, if you’re at a club that has new gear what is said is valid, is that not right?
Just like an old school, DJ had to learn how to use turntables. I still believe that the old school. DJ should learn how to utilize all the new features of a CDJ-3000 and especially the mixers.
"There's no fooling around." Hrm...pretty sure that's called "dj'ing" hahaha! Okay okay, I get it. I feel like that's why so many people are dj'ing now, it's super duper accessible, and there's no room for "shoes in a dryer". In a way, I kind of miss being at a party, and hearing the DJ fix something that's slightly off; takes real skill and finesse. I've been dj'ing for 24 years and I'm going to continue to kill that cue button, just to spite you. ;)
Repair guys will love you. 🙂
Haha! I don't smash it that hard. 😉 I've never broken any of my cdjs like that. I've repaired my own power button on my mixer though, but it came jenky when I bought it 2nd hand from someone else smashing it! 😂
You can also loop in, it gives you a ton of options.
Nope, gotta say I completely disagree with this take.
Why? Work smarter not harder
I agree , how boring would is it pressing a sync button to beatmatch, if that's the only option on a deck these days I wouldn't dj atall. Thank god there's still old stool djs out here that actually do the work when playing, far more refreshing to hear a dj make a few mistakes in a mix so you can tell he isn't using a sync button
@@noddyshiels1397i use sync exclusively. I have more time to select the perfect next track, find perfect loops, work on perfect blending. Why would I want to be distracted by nudging every few seconds? Do you wish deck had pedals so you can manually spin the platters too?
Human touch is a way better feeling
And this is why DJing is nothing more then just play button 💁🏻♂️ you can sync everthing and sit and go on yout phone 🤷🏻♂️
Nobody on the Dance Floor cares about how good your timing is Will You release a jog wheel or how you hit the cue button. All they care about is good music selection. If you think DJing and has something to do with your hand eye coordination then maybe you really don't understand what it is to be a DJ.
@@TheDJLab By that logic let's just get rid of all drummers and put in a drum machines so that BPM will be perfect with no shifts. Concerts can be just a bunch of machines on coffee tables and no humans! Mixing manually and just 'Using the technology" is akin to comparing true singers to those that just lip-sync
@@TheDJLab This is like saying that no one cares about whether art is created by AI or by a human mind. Let's just remove the DJ all together and have AI analyze the dance floor and chose the rights songs, right?
I’m divided on this. Beatmatching is both a skill and enjoyable. I think there’s still a place for DJs wanting to do this and still enjoy all the other benefits the new tech has to offer. I also can see that DJ skills have shifted to other areas like playing with performance pads and effects. Maybe Pioneer should have put a big red light on the back to show the crowd which style of DJ we’re listening to so that we can appreciate the performance based on the method used 😂
Track selection is everything though and that’s really what will get me coming away from a set rating it or not.
Wait til they add the AI button which selects and plays tracks for you, I’m calling it now!
I respect you steve..but lemme play like I still have my 1200s...makes me feel comfortable. Even on my prime 4..hahaha
If your mixes are tight then it doesn't matter. I just see too many old school DJs that have Sloppy mixes because they really don't have the skill or the ear and they really should be using the technology
All good, unless recordbox says: "Hey Dude, let's put the Beatmarkers somewhere different, because there is a pre-kick before the Drop" and you cannot even change it right in the Software and you're not being able to Beatmatch then. Or your network-cable says "Bye" and there is no Sync anymore. Imagine beeing in a Club without the newest CDJs or doesn't have linked ones. These are the ways fake Djs got exposed in the past... I tend to have control over my Set and work for the art i'm presenting.
Naaa, I’ll do how it had working for me for years, nowadays some “dj” can’t even beat match without a wave form 😂😂
This is gonna trigger people .
That’s the only purpose of this video
Serious? We are supposed to use SYNC now? No way... I used my CDJs for many years using the CUE to drop in and never destroyed it. It's not only to drop in, it is also to decide quickly when I drop in. If I do so with SYNC and the Start-Button like you do it, the track is running and I would have to stop and turn back... No thanks. I think there is a good reason, that pioneer and all other players still have this button 😉
As an old school dog.
I have to agree 100%
Use the appropriate gear for the job you want vinyl?
Use technics sl1200 any version Will do!
You want to scratch digital files use the technics with Phase and boom you rocking!
You want to use cdj tables use the denon sc6000m
Last but not least use the cdj 3000 if you are rich!
Also the New micro switches are not as good as like on the cdj 1000 mk2/3 and break easy!
New gear means cheap
Me on my end i Will sell everything but my analog stuff, stick to the Basics and use phase with the tech's and some fx and Thats that.
Use the technology how it’s designed
NO 🎧 headphones
NO beat matching Brain
NO DJ...
SIMPLE. AND ✌️
Old school cognitive distortions. If you play music and people dance you are a DJ. No one on the dancefloor cares if you can beatmatch.
Just like most of the crowd don't mind sloppy mixes as long as they like the tunes
This is all well and good, but i like a bit of pressure when i am djing, so that i feel i am doing something.. lol. but point taken. this is why i manually cue my tracks, unless i have to do some prepared set, which most of the time i dont. otherwise i think i will be bored.
Agree a 100% with you
That color eq is slick! What is that called?
i dont use my cue that way, i have always preferred to tap next to the play button with a finger over play. I get what you're saying about not needing to do it at all because of sync but not everyone uses sync. I dont use it because i prefer to manually mix so to keep my timing, i tap the deck next to the play button. Caveat: in not against sync not am i one of those NO SYNC FOR DJ's morons, i just have a preference of playing
Accurate!!!
Telling DJs they have to use sync? That is a hot take! LOL
I'm telling DJs to stop train Wrecking. If you don't want to use a sync button then go get yourself some CDJ 900s or use your 1200s. Nobody is impressed by a guy who refuses to you sync on brand new gear and every transition is always off. You would be surprised how many seasoned DJs I've seen that have very sloppy mixes.
Rather watch a Dj sweat and look busy rather than stand behind the decks posing and fist pumping while he hits the sync button
Not to be THAT guy, but you have the wrong version of "your" in the thumbnail.. it should be "you're"... nonetheless, great video man!
Shit.. lol... thanks
Fixed !!
I usually agree with you but this one is just out of touch.
What if they mix music beyond standard quantized electronic music?
This is very much a controller dj mindset. Why can’t the vinyl guys mix the way they prefer?
Just fix the beatgrids of these non quantised tracks and sync still works. It can be a bit tedious, but if you only concentrate on points where you'd mix the tracks it's totally doable.
If you're going to mix like an old vinyl DJ then at least get yourself some motorized platters and do it properly.
If someone doesn't want to use the sync button, why would they then be required to have motorized platters? Everyone needs to stop with these fake parameters of old school and new school DJ's.Let people play the way they want to play.
But he's right about Chicago.If you are invited out to play, especially on the south side... where house music was created (meaning the original tunes, not the songs that inspired it) and other djs/promoters see that you're using sync... you aren't likely to be invited out to play with anymore.
Ride the pitch!
I never really understood it either Stevia.
Ooooo Steve anti-syncers are gonna rip your ass for this one. That being said, I wouldn't be caught dead with sync on.
Yeah the old school DJs always make the excuse about scenarios that will never happen just to vilify people using sync.
Only DJ’s will notice how you mix and have an ear for nuances. The general patrons don’t know and don’t care.
Regarding sync, I use it when I record a mix that I will post on my socials. I want it to be perfect.
When I practice or gig I don’t use sync. In Chicago it’s frowned upon since the standards here are higher and more scrutiny if used
Haha! All the haters being triggered!
I used to DJ vinyl 20 years ago. Now I use sync.
There's nothing impressive about boasting they hate sync and still manually beatmatch when they sound like shoes in a dryer.
How can i use the bluetooth
Because using sync takes all the fun out of it and is basically cheating, might aswel just put a playlist/album on if you going to do that or a pre recorded set like most festival dj do !
When F1 drivers drive automatic are they cheating? Are pilots cheating using automatic functions? Are photographers using digital cameras cheating?
I mean, if you are lazy is OK
@@Merluso0822 so pilots, drivers and photographers using automating technology are all lazy. Got it.
Good that your on the same level now then and every pilot/plane uses autopilot the pilot literally only takes off and lands the plane, the plane flys its self the rest of time and yes f1 driver are cheating they used to have manual gearboxes so yes there are now cheating @Q-TEK
What has that got to do with djing?? Driving a car or plane is nothing like djing , and if want to be bored to tears by beat syncing tracks together, then go ahead. In my opinion its pish, it takes all the creativity out of djing @Q-TEK
Ha ha I use it like a DJ not a robot the product should be able to work for the DJ with different styles that’s what makes us different 😅
its ok i cant afford the cdj 3ooo.....
Hell no! The joy of Using them manually is the whole point of the jog wheel.
You sound like you would rather use a laptop and a keyboard.
Being a DJ is all about being creative like art why you sound like a old DJ with a pair CDJ 500
I'm an old DJ with a 4 cdj-3000s. 😚
what I'm trying to say is by the way you got a nice setup what I'm trying to say is I'ma scratch DJ but I don't go to far for like scratching every time to do my mix that get boring but I have to use like effects are just go old school blend in 2 track like 1 track playing instrumental and the 2nd track playing acapella that how I rocked the crowd @@TheDJLab
I’m an old dj with 3 cdj-3000’s and a djm-v10 along with 2 1210’s a couple rotary mixers and a Z2 but I’m not going to tell anybody how to use they stuff. Lol.
I use all my skills no sync
Why do you sound like a Hater on most of your posts⁉️
Maybe I am a hater. Why does Gordon Ramsay sound like he's about to lose his fucking mind every time he talks to someone on Hell's Kitchen? Do you think it's his personality or do you think It's part of his character for the show. Not everybody has to play the nice guy on TV.
as you explain its DJing for wimps... sorry
Learn how to beat match using your ears.
Watch my videos where I play records on my 12s. I'm 50 and have been DJing since I was 10. I don't need to play with the old gear and do it the new way. The next time you want to comment on my channel, I suggest you sharpen your pencil and write me a letter and send it by mail, seeing as you like to be such an old-school guy.
This is the dumbest thing ever, I guy using the sync button, trying to tell somebody how to play and use a CDJ.
Here’s a tip for you TheDjLab.
As long as they’re not using your equipment CTFU
CTFU ? I think you meant STFU. Thanks for taking the time to express your feelings. Please don't tell me you are the guy who bought top if the line gear and still use it like you're in the 70s. Do you still carry around your little black book with your phone numbers in your pocket with your iPhone? I never mind people expressing their views, but really don't get why you send a message like this. It's not a good look on you.
Why tf should I use Sync 😂 honestly remove that shit!
The DJs from 1990 are now with pension listening to Mozart, Bach all day and will not know what a CDJ3000 is (LOL)
Tw*t
Well that's not a very nice comment