E-Bike Question of the Day ⚡ How do you plan on using this bike? Are you looking at cargo bikes for taking your kids, a 2nd rider, or hauling goods? Let us know in the comments below 👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼
I want to pick one up to serve as a "truck bike". I'm going to mount milwalkee packout boxes, and fill them with work tools. so I dont have to drive my old f150 to in town work sites. my thought is if I bike to work more I'm hoping to offset the fuel I do burn when I have to work out of town.
Bought one back in 2018 and had to sell it due to moving over seas. Hands down the best investment I have ever made in my life. Durable, comfortable, sleek, and so much better as an alternative form of transportation, so much so that I sold my SuV and rode this bike everywhere and I lived in the South East of the U.S. so stuff is spread out, but it never bothered me. I will eventually purchase another one and one for my wife as well.
I own one and I absolutely love it. The cargo capability is awesome. It is truly a viable motor vehicle replacement. As for the custom tire size, I'm not worried about it. I've dealt with Rad's customer service several times and they've been terrific. They have an excellent track record when it comes to keeping replacement parts in stock. I have no doubt that Rad will have replacement tires when I need them. Finally, the lack of suspension. I do find that the ride is stiff. That's not all bad, but I'm not exactly a young man and I did experience some lower back and rear end soreness after longer rides. That said, I do understand that if the bike had a full suspension (and hydraulic brakes) it would be a lot more expensive. This is a $1,500 bike, not $5,000. So, for a couple hundred bucks I got myself a high-quality suspension seat post and upgraded seat. Problem solved! The ride is now nice and cushy. My bike is awesome, and even after the upgrades and accessories my total cost is under $2,000. That is killer for such a well-made and powerful cargo bike.
@@lykoszero - Sure. I chose the Daway C99 light saddle. It was either that or the very popular Sunlite Cloud-9. The Daway happened to be on a big sale.
@@lykoszero - I got lucky and got it for $25. I like the bonus of the lights on the back ...comes in handy when out after dark, and it came with a back-up battery (for those lights). I like it very much. It's definitely more comfortable than the stock seat, and combined with a suspension seatpost the difference is huge! F.y.i.- I bought a Thudbuster LT seatpost from Cave Creek.
Just ordered mine yesterday and I am so excited for this bike! I can use this to get to work and carry my art supplies to the studio. I can even go get my Funko Pops and load them up in this and know they're safe.
I wish Rad would put suspension on all of their bikes. Our roads are not being repaired like they used to be. Roads are getting very rough in many cities. Rad should put suspension forks up front, a suspension seat and mono shock on the rear as standard equipment. It may add a couple hundred dollars to the cost but I bet they would sell more of each model. Thanks for the review.
Some people like me actually don't like suspension on bikes and am glad a few don't have it. I feel too many have suspension forks with no option to get a normal fork.
My disabled brother-in-law bought one. I've been bicycling for 57 years. This bike is well built and has some cool accessories. This is also the biggest waste of money for an e-bike. They won't sell you tires or inner tubes and the ones that come on the bike are cheap. Most bikes sold don't come with "the best" tires and tubes. Rad Power Bikes have tubes and tires in stock but are keeping them for new bike sales. It's now an almost $2,000 paper weight. The 22x3 tires are only used by Rad. No one else makes them or the tubes. They sell an equally bad "armored liner" meant as an adapter so you can use 22x1.75 tubes in the 22x3 tires. Why is there not a class action suit against them?
I keep looking at the RadWagon 4 but then I remember those 3 x 22 inch tires. I actually like the size choice but the single source for that size tire is Rad Bikes. That is a complete lack of competition and thread choices in purchasing tires. Worse yet is when Rad decides to stop stocking these oddball size tires, then one is stuck with scrap.
We've found the tires do hold up well as we haven't had any flats with all our test riding. It's definitely something you'd want to stock up on with extras if you do purchase it though for peace of mind as they aren't commonplace in most bike shops.
What's the maximum hauling/towing capacity? I know the max payload capacity is 350lbs including people and cargo, but what about towing capacity. (They're rated separately and are not considered when mentioning 'payload' as 'payload' refers to the amount of weight allowed on the vehicle itself. Vehicle in this case being the RadWagon 4.) I was asking the question because if the towing capacity is about 100lbs, then it has the perfect amount of capacity for me and all my little things I might need. If not I could always go bigger, but if the hauling capacity is also accounted for, this bike would be on my wishlist.
Great video - - you mentioned buying extra 22" tires - - I think you meant buy a few extra tubes because you will go through tubes much quicker than wearing out tires.
@@ElectricBikeReport Been that way since they started selling in the EU. But after doing some more research into the Radwagon I'll probably not be buying one as it has a proprietary wheel and tyre size thay only they sell, I'll probably go for another cargo bike that uses more 'off the shelf' components.
Hydraulic isn't mechanical? Pull cables vs fluid transferring force. Both seem to be mechanical systems. Or are they electronic controlled/Hydraulic actuated?
@@ElectricBikeReport well, i haven't delved too deep yet, but the RadRunner or a himiway cruiser, but the cruiser is a bit pricey as i'd have to pay import fees cus it's only in the states and germany
Different styles for all three, but they're good options depending what matters most to you. The storage options on the RadRunner are nice if you opt for some of the upgrades. We will have a Himiway review in the not too distant future so you can keep an eye out for that - hit subscribe if you haven't yet to see that when it comes out.
@@ElectricBikeReport Yeah, I've been living in L.A. (Southern California) since 1983, but I have been through St. George a few times driving back and forth to Aspen, Colorado which is my hometown. I love the desert. St. George is also where I have used a local metal casting foundry years ago. But I haven't been to or through St. George in quite a few years. The surrounding landscape was sort of a dead giveaway.
Hi. Thank you for the review. I was reading an article, that's why I wound up here, and it said it was 500w, but your description states 750w. Is it changeable? Do we have options at checkout?
Hi Littleoldal, Always refer to the manufacturer's website for the most accurate info: www.radpowerbikes.com/products/radwagon-electric-cargo-bike It is 750w and it doesn't appear to be changeable.
Thanks for an informative review. I have recently ordered the Rad 4 and was hoping that you could tell me what bike stand you used whilst assembling your bike. Obviously the Rad 4 is a heavy bike and I would like to get a stand that will be able to handle the weight of the bike whilst working on it.
Maybe it’s a dumb question… but how do you charge your battery? Lets say i would buy this bike for a world tour hauling a mini camper would that be possible? Where would i charge my battery? With solar system panels is it possible?😂
This bike was really easy to assemble th-cam.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and required very few adjustments out of the box. The wheels did not require any truing/adjustments. The frame had some small scratches, but nothing major.I did replace the seat though - the seat it came with was very uncomfortable. The tires need to be re-inflated every 4-5 days, but this appears to be quite common for the narrow 700x25 tires.Overall, in my opinion, this bike looks and rides like a much more expensive bike.
A phone call would be so much easier. We have one if these. It's a love hate thing. Lots of hates but for the money we like it. I bet the bike ride a bunch better once you figured out the stem adjustment huh 🤣
This comes in at $2300 Canadian Dollars. How do you go about securing this significant investment when inside a store? Our city has its fair share of Meth-powered low lifes that would be on this shiny object like a murder of crows. Is the Battery and LCD Panel quickly removable to take into the store with you?
Generally speaking, yes. While all the ebike manufacturers will warn you against submerging the bike in a puddle, steam, etc., they are generally built to withstand riding in the rain. If there is a stated IP rating (the system for evaluating dust/waterproof capabilities of a product) try and find something with a waterproof rating of 4 or higher. That guards against splashes from all directions. To be on the safe side always store a bike away from weather conditions or buy a cover for it to help fight the elements.
I'm considering this bike for commuting, errands, and taking my kids to school. I'm curious how tall the tester in the video is. I'm 6 foot 200 lbs does anyone know if this is a suitable ride for someone my size?
Thinking about getting this bike for our family, my wife is worried it might be hard to handle with kids on it in the future. How stable is this bike when riding it around with weight on the back? I imagine it's different than normal but something you get used to?
It's a little different at first, but yes you adjust fairly quickly. We've used this bike to help film on a different video and we had a 190lb passenger on the back with a 230lb rider up front (which is technically over the weight limit) and we were still able to manage turns just fine. We recommend a little practice in an open area to get turning down before hitting any turn-heavy routes, but you'll get used to it quicker than you'd think. Hope this helps!
We haven't tried ourselves, but others online have reported some difficulty with trailers. Some found success through setups that attach to the frame itself, but overall we're not sure how advisable it is.
The best advice is to keep it away from any temperature extremes as a best practice. It depends on how well insulated your shed is to fight the Winter/Summer conditions. If there is space in your home I'd suggest bringing it in. You shouldn't need to reset the battery, you should be fine to put it back in and go!
Do not buy extra tires in advance. The volatile substances in tires that give them their flex and durability begin out-gassing the moment the tires are removed from their molds at the factory. Even if stored in perfect cool dry conditions, after 6 years or so your extra tires will have lost enough of their grip and durability to make using them potentially unsafe. If poorly stored in a hot garage or a damp basement, even a year or two can be enough to make your extra tires unreliable. Buy your tires when you need them, and check the manufacturing date codes to be sure they have not been sitting on your bike shop's tire rack since the Wright brothers were in the business..
To be honest, I am very disappointed in Rad Power Bikes. I had been planning to buy these bikes for a very long time. I also called yesterday, and spoke to your sales rep, who said that you guys won’t even ship parts out here to Hawaii. Do you realize that we are part of the United States too? I understand that there are restrictions on lithium ion batteries, I get that. But you can’t even ship parts here if I did have one? Maybe there needs to be a way to ship the bike, and parts and then send the Lithium iOn batteries via surface separately. I went down to my local bike shop and dropped $12k on 4 Giant E Bikes instead because they actually wanted my business. Rad Power Bikes, pull your head out of the sand and realize that Alaska and Hawaii exist too. Maybe it's time for us to stop doing business with Washington residents too. I am pissed off. Aloha
One battery is silly. Try running out with two kids. Super slow bike. Bad brakes. With upgrades it’s amazing. Stated distance here is total bullshit. I’ve had this bike for two years
Sad No Power Ebike. Low powered ebikes are to slow to keep up with any form of traffic. Also No suspension Sucks. I had Gen 1 and sold it. It was as slow as a drunk turtle.
E-Bike Question of the Day ⚡ How do you plan on using this bike? Are you looking at cargo bikes for taking your kids, a 2nd rider, or hauling goods? Let us know in the comments below 👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼
I want to pick one up to serve as a "truck bike". I'm going to mount milwalkee packout boxes, and fill them with work tools. so I dont have to drive my old f150 to in town work sites. my thought is if I bike to work more I'm hoping to offset the fuel I do burn when I have to work out of town.
Bought one back in 2018 and had to sell it due to moving over seas. Hands down the best investment I have ever made in my life. Durable, comfortable, sleek, and so much better as an alternative form of transportation, so much so that I sold my SuV and rode this bike everywhere and I lived in the South East of the U.S. so stuff is spread out, but it never bothered me. I will eventually purchase another one and one for my wife as well.
I own one and I absolutely love it. The cargo capability is awesome. It is truly a viable motor vehicle replacement.
As for the custom tire size, I'm not worried about it. I've dealt with Rad's customer service several times and they've been terrific. They have an excellent track record when it comes to keeping replacement parts in stock. I have no doubt that Rad will have replacement tires when I need them.
Finally, the lack of suspension. I do find that the ride is stiff. That's not all bad, but I'm not exactly a young man and I did experience some lower back and rear end soreness after longer rides. That said, I do understand that if the bike had a full suspension (and hydraulic brakes) it would be a lot more expensive. This is a $1,500 bike, not $5,000.
So, for a couple hundred bucks I got myself a high-quality suspension seat post and upgraded seat. Problem solved! The ride is now nice and cushy.
My bike is awesome, and even after the upgrades and accessories my total cost is under $2,000. That is killer for such a well-made and powerful cargo bike.
Glad to hear you're getting good use out of your RadWagon, Eric! We agree, you get a great, capable bike at a good price point.
Can you share what seat you bought?
@@lykoszero - Sure. I chose the Daway C99 light saddle. It was either that or the very popular Sunlite Cloud-9. The Daway happened to be on a big sale.
@@OpenmindedHusker1 damn that's pretty cheap! Looks comfortable
@@lykoszero - I got lucky and got it for $25. I like the bonus of the lights on the back ...comes in handy when out after dark, and it came with a back-up battery (for those lights). I like it very much. It's definitely more comfortable than the stock seat, and combined with a suspension seatpost the difference is huge!
F.y.i.- I bought a Thudbuster LT seatpost from Cave Creek.
I just got mine, love it up in the northwest hills.
Thank you. It was in time for guests.
That could be the next Uber thing, as you can carry a passenger and they get their own space and comfort.
Just ordered mine yesterday and I am so excited for this bike! I can use this to get to work and carry my art supplies to the studio. I can even go get my Funko Pops and load them up in this and know they're safe.
I wish Rad would put suspension on all of their bikes. Our roads are not being repaired like they used to be. Roads are getting very rough in many cities. Rad should put suspension forks up front, a suspension seat and mono shock on the rear as standard equipment. It may add a couple hundred dollars to the cost but I bet they would sell more of each model. Thanks for the review.
The rad runner plus has them. It does cost extra for those features on it.
@paulanthony
Some people like me actually don't like suspension on bikes and am glad a few don't have it. I feel too many have suspension forks with no option to get a normal fork.
I am a heavy hauler and soon will be in possession of one. Thanks for the tip on extra tires.
You bet!
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My disabled brother-in-law bought one. I've been bicycling for 57 years. This bike is well built and has some cool accessories. This is also the biggest waste of money for an e-bike. They won't sell you tires or inner tubes and the ones that come on the bike are cheap. Most bikes sold don't come with "the best" tires and tubes. Rad Power Bikes have tubes and tires in stock but are keeping them for new bike sales. It's now an almost $2,000 paper weight. The 22x3 tires are only used by Rad. No one else makes them or the tubes. They sell an equally bad "armored liner" meant as an adapter so you can use 22x1.75 tubes in the 22x3 tires. Why is there not a class action suit against them?
I keep looking at the RadWagon 4 but then I remember those 3 x 22 inch tires. I actually like the size choice but the single source for that size tire is Rad Bikes. That is a complete lack of competition and thread choices in purchasing tires. Worse yet is when Rad decides to stop stocking these oddball size tires, then one is stuck with scrap.
Liked the idea of this bike and thought about purchasing it but those proprietary 22" wheels are a problem IMO.
We've found the tires do hold up well as we haven't had any flats with all our test riding. It's definitely something you'd want to stock up on with extras if you do purchase it though for peace of mind as they aren't commonplace in most bike shops.
2:35 " it gives you that extra 50-75 watts " this statement was very confusing.
What’s so confusing? That extra power with cargo going up a steep hill at max power. You won’t always need that.
@@alvaroakatico9188 just by having a brushless motor doesn't magically produce more wattage. Where is that "extra wattage" coming from?
"Burning a hole in your pocket" is what you say about money BEFORE it is spent, meaning you feel an urgency to spend it.
You can order this suspension seat post for your bike. It will help with a cushion.
ok i figure it out i've been leaving the key in the port it says not to do that.
What's the maximum hauling/towing capacity? I know the max payload capacity is 350lbs including people and cargo, but what about towing capacity. (They're rated separately and are not considered when mentioning 'payload' as 'payload' refers to the amount of weight allowed on the vehicle itself. Vehicle in this case being the RadWagon 4.)
I was asking the question because if the towing capacity is about 100lbs, then it has the perfect amount of capacity for me and all my little things I might need. If not I could always go bigger, but if the hauling capacity is also accounted for, this bike would be on my wishlist.
Love St. George, Utah! Looks like a great place to ride an e-bike.
St. George Utah? Crazy to see my home town featured with such an awesome brand!
Gotta love the ability to ride year round here 😎
Great video - - you mentioned buying extra 22" tires - - I think you meant buy a few extra tubes because you will go through tubes much quicker than wearing out tires.
Yes, definitely meant the tubes on that. Good catch and thanks for helping us clarify!
There is only one problem with the Radwagon, That is that the EU store cannot keep up with demand!!
A common problem in a lot of places since the start of Covid, sadly. Hopefully things start smoothing out this year!
@@ElectricBikeReport Been that way since they started selling in the EU.
But after doing some more research into the Radwagon I'll probably not be buying one as it has a proprietary wheel and tyre size thay only they sell, I'll probably go for another cargo bike that uses more 'off the shelf' components.
Hydraulic isn't mechanical? Pull cables vs fluid transferring force. Both seem to be mechanical systems. Or are they electronic controlled/Hydraulic actuated?
this was a great video. will still do more reearch, but i may just buy this bike
It would be a good choice. What other ones are you considering?
@@ElectricBikeReport well, i haven't delved too deep yet, but the RadRunner or a himiway cruiser, but the cruiser is a bit pricey as i'd have to pay import fees cus it's only in the states and germany
Different styles for all three, but they're good options depending what matters most to you. The storage options on the RadRunner are nice if you opt for some of the upgrades. We will have a Himiway review in the not too distant future so you can keep an eye out for that - hit subscribe if you haven't yet to see that when it comes out.
@@ElectricBikeReport aa
Where was this review done? St. George, Utah? Looks like St. George.
Good eye! It was in St. George.
@@ElectricBikeReport Yeah, I've been living in L.A. (Southern California) since 1983, but I have been through St. George a few times driving back and forth to Aspen, Colorado which is my hometown. I love the desert. St. George is also where I have used a local metal casting foundry years ago. But I haven't been to or through St. George in quite a few years. The surrounding landscape was sort of a dead giveaway.
Hi. Thank you for the review. I was reading an article, that's why I wound up here, and it said it was 500w, but your description states 750w. Is it changeable? Do we have options at checkout?
Hi Littleoldal, Always refer to the manufacturer's website for the most accurate info: www.radpowerbikes.com/products/radwagon-electric-cargo-bike
It is 750w and it doesn't appear to be changeable.
@@ElectricBikeReport Good to know. Thinking about ordering one this week!
Can you turn the power assist off in flat areas?
Thanks for an informative review. I have recently ordered the Rad 4 and was hoping that you could tell me what bike stand you used whilst assembling your bike. Obviously the Rad 4 is a heavy bike and I would like to get a stand that will be able to handle the weight of the bike whilst working on it.
If I get one, can it be fixed by any dealers in Scotland?
why is the motor now 500W on the radwagon 4 ?
Maybe it’s a dumb question… but how do you charge your battery? Lets say i would buy this bike for a world tour hauling a mini camper would that be possible? Where would i charge my battery? With solar system panels is it possible?😂
The perfect asymmetric warfare vehicle
Looking to get my first ebike. I have been told that 22" wheels are harder to come by with much fewer options. Opinions?
Max speed with assist?
This bike was really easy to assemble th-cam.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and required very few adjustments out of the box. The wheels did not require any truing/adjustments. The frame had some small scratches, but nothing major.I did replace the seat though - the seat it came with was very uncomfortable. The tires need to be re-inflated every 4-5 days, but this appears to be quite common for the narrow 700x25 tires.Overall, in my opinion, this bike looks and rides like a much more expensive bike.
A phone call would be so much easier. We have one if these. It's a love hate thing. Lots of hates but for the money we like it. I bet the bike ride a bunch better once you figured out the stem adjustment huh 🤣
I love my Rad runner 2 but there is nothing like the US service in the UK please get it going here!!!!! 😢
i didnt even charged it that long 4 hour or 6 six hours should i?
This comes in at $2300 Canadian Dollars. How do you go about securing this significant investment when inside a store? Our city has its fair share of Meth-powered low lifes that would be on this shiny object like a murder of crows. Is the Battery and LCD Panel quickly removable to take into the store with you?
Safe to ride in rain? Ebikes in general?
Generally speaking, yes. While all the ebike manufacturers will warn you against submerging the bike in a puddle, steam, etc., they are generally built to withstand riding in the rain. If there is a stated IP rating (the system for evaluating dust/waterproof capabilities of a product) try and find something with a waterproof rating of 4 or higher. That guards against splashes from all directions. To be on the safe side always store a bike away from weather conditions or buy a cover for it to help fight the elements.
Will this be able to handle 2 adults and a 1 year old..all of us weigh around 320 lbs in total..?
Yes it should! Payload capacity is listed at 350lbs
I'm considering this bike for commuting, errands, and taking my kids to school. I'm curious how tall the tester in the video is. I'm 6 foot 200 lbs does anyone know if this is a suitable ride for someone my size?
It's definitely suitable for somebody your size! Pierce is 6' 165lbs, but we've had riders 6'5" 220lbs riding this with no problems.
@@ElectricBikeReport thanks 🤙🚲
Thinking about getting this bike for our family, my wife is worried it might be hard to handle with kids on it in the future. How stable is this bike when riding it around with weight on the back? I imagine it's different than normal but something you get used to?
It's a little different at first, but yes you adjust fairly quickly. We've used this bike to help film on a different video and we had a 190lb passenger on the back with a 230lb rider up front (which is technically over the weight limit) and we were still able to manage turns just fine. We recommend a little practice in an open area to get turning down before hitting any turn-heavy routes, but you'll get used to it quicker than you'd think. Hope this helps!
i had my handle bars on wrong. and now i might have an battery problem can you help?
They have a forum. Google rad owners forum.
I'd buy this bike again.
Excellent review. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
What’s the bottom bracket size? Can I swap the crank for a mid bafang motor? For a separate motor option ?
can you pull a trailer on this bike?
We haven't tried ourselves, but others online have reported some difficulty with trailers. Some found success through setups that attach to the frame itself, but overall we're not sure how advisable it is.
I attached a trailer to my radrunner and works perfect!
That's neat I wish I could afford one
the bike is being keep in a cold shed is that ok and do i need to take off the battery to store it?
do i need to reset the battery when i put it back on?
The best advice is to keep it away from any temperature extremes as a best practice. It depends on how well insulated your shed is to fight the Winter/Summer conditions. If there is space in your home I'd suggest bringing it in. You shouldn't need to reset the battery, you should be fine to put it back in and go!
Do not buy extra tires in advance.
The volatile substances in tires that give them their flex and durability begin out-gassing the moment the tires are removed from their molds at the factory.
Even if stored in perfect cool dry conditions, after 6 years or so your extra tires will have lost enough of their grip and durability to make using them potentially unsafe. If poorly stored in a hot garage or a damp basement, even a year or two can be enough to make your extra tires unreliable.
Buy your tires when you need them, and check the manufacturing date codes to be sure they have not been sitting on your bike shop's tire rack since the Wright brothers were in the business..
That RadWagon 4 is a hoot!
Auto replacement, hauling stuff.
my manual says 3 to 7 hours.
im from The Philippines.
To be honest, I am very disappointed in Rad Power Bikes. I had been planning to buy these bikes for a very long time. I also called yesterday, and spoke to your sales rep, who said that you guys won’t even ship parts out here to Hawaii. Do you realize that we are part of the United States too? I understand that there are restrictions on lithium ion batteries, I get that. But you can’t even ship parts here if I did have one? Maybe there needs to be a way to ship the bike, and parts and then send the Lithium iOn batteries via surface separately. I went down to my local bike shop and dropped $12k on 4 Giant E Bikes instead because they actually wanted my business. Rad Power Bikes, pull your head out of the sand and realize that Alaska and Hawaii exist too. Maybe it's time for us to stop doing business with Washington residents too. I am pissed off. Aloha
One battery is silly. Try running out with two kids. Super slow bike. Bad brakes. With upgrades it’s amazing. Stated distance here is total bullshit. I’ve had this bike for two years
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Illegally rides on sidewalk what a Moffett
Terrible customer service. Tried 6 times to get the bike online. What a joke.
Loveit
Sad No Power Ebike.
Low powered ebikes are to slow to keep up with any form of traffic.
Also No suspension Sucks.
I had Gen 1 and sold it.
It was as slow as a drunk turtle.
25mph is not fast enough for you?