Once in every 5 year occurrence doesn't make it worth it splashing the cash...especially seeing even then she didn't get stuck. I dont like buying screen wash as £2 for it would give me 100 miles driving, so splashing the cash on some once in a 5 year use snow tires is really unlikely ha ha :)
Ian Sampson I don't blame you. I live in East Tennessee mountains in the USA and we get several snows per winter. I'm 52 years old and have never bought snow tires. I do keep a set of snow cables just in case I get caught out in a big snow storm. I have very seldom used them. Oh yeah, I've never had a wreck in the snow either. I probably have driven 50,000 miles on snow covered roads that were completely covered. You wouldn't own an EV if you didn't care to throw money around for the premium items.
Bryan, you have just covered an interesting point. In the UK, from all the friends and family ranging from young drivers all the way up to 80+ year olds I know no one who owns a set of specialist snow tires. The ENV200 wasn't even in the snow (or ice) when the bump happened, that was caused by a lorry cutting across the road into a line of oncoming traffic - and a mini pile up (pile ups occur year round...although it was around 5c. I have never suffered an sort of accident in the snow (mainly because these events are every 5 years ish), more over never had an accident at all in 18 years of driving. Testing the new tires after driving a couple hundred miles a couple of weeks ago and they stopped just like they do in summer period (gripped the road, no slide or squirming) Now, colder climates and other situations - for sure suspect there is a reason there are laws in places - i.e. you don't have them fitted you WILL crash...thats different. To suggest no research has been done and we all just go blindly driving around in some sort of unsafe environment because we are to daft to look into it is a bit of a stretch at best. (If it was just me and everyone else had them, then that would be the case....but no one has them here in the UK. One interesting thing that was on BBC radio 4 yesterday - putting a cap on the length of time you can have tires, i.e. a lifespan. They want in law for it to be 10 years otherwise tires are potentially dangerous. That would certainly making having a spare set sat in the garage at great expensive interesting, especially if in the UK they were rarely used.
RattyB75 No requirement in the UK through numerous bodies not deeming it needed / required. Personal experience across multiple generations cannot be dismissed, it’s real life data. But as it’s a hotly debated subject will just leave it at that. Have a good Christmas!
RattyB75 in the UK it’s called sarcasm, also joking. Hard to explain in text but ahem, basically she was making excuses. For example, when she said it was me who did it with the shovel...well...she didn’t actually really mean it was me...just a joke to try and pretend it wasn’t her fault. Of course she know it was a driving error. Anyhooo.... have a good Christmas!
Yeah I noticed that too. Ian using the shovel to clear the snow off the the ENV200 (LOL) but leaving the wet gooey snow on the driveway. A little salt on the wheel paths would have helped also.
Hi Ian Just consecutively watched all 119 episodes (apx 3 weeks) very informative & educational thoroughly enjoyed the journey with you. I purchased my 65 plate leaf apx 2 months ago and loving it - fortunately I have 2 local customers (within 1/2 mile of home with free 7kw chargers I park up just before bed and stroll down (3 min walk) to 100% charge everyday no fuel costs its fantastic - keep up the great work good luck with the zoe looking forward to the new vlogs best wishes to you & family
Hey Ian, glad to see an update from you. One thing, I didn't realize you'd get snow that deep in England...very exciting! I get moisture from the weather in my 2012 in Spokane, Washington, USA. We also get the snow. My moisture problem is not anywhere close to your issue, but it could be because I constantly use my heater and defroster. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you mentioned sometime in a past video, that you rarely use the heater to preserve power. The Leaf's seem to be so tightly made and sealed up, that just breathing causes my windows to fog up. Your moisture brought back memories from years ago when I owned a '63 VW Beetle and a '65 Chevrolet Corvair. In the winter and rainy spring, I would have to use a towel to wipe down the interior windows to just see out. Talking about EV range, I couldn't help but wonder what your buddies thought of the constant charging to go somewhere. I can imagine they had nothing good to say about using EV's and the hassle it causes to having to stop and recharge every few miles. It's the around town benefits that pay off in big ways when you don't have to stop for gas. I'm looking forward to your next video. Thanks again for the update!
The UK is much further north than even Canada, so we can actually get quite a fair amount of snow, but it rarely sticks around for so very long. The jet stream frequently blows relatively warm, wet Atlantic air across the UK, so it usually melts off quite soon.
Up to date at last. Started just before Christmas and just got up to date now. Thanks for that Ian and co. great youtubing. Now I can follow at a more sedate pace - looking forward to the Zoe story.
To combat Dampness building up inside cars, especially during certain weather conditions, most modern dinosaur fuelled vehicles have some setting available of the windscreen Demister/defroster, which can operate the air conditioner and the heater at the same time. So that dehumidifies and cools fresh outside air, then heats it and blows it across the windows. However the functioning of a Nissan EV HVAC system might be different. Usually leaving the air intake controls set to admit outside fresh air, reduces problems of humid air building up inside vehicles and fogging the windows. Use of the "recirculate" air position is best saved for use only when driving through outback Australian bushfires ! and possibly also, when driving in temperatures of above 40*C or below -10*C
Yeah the cold really kills the battery, especially mine now being so old and having done so many miles. I think in that weather I was getting around 65 miles per charge as long as I didnt pre heat...then it was even less!
I thought it was just me, but every single cold morning when you want pre-heat the Nissan servers are overloaded and it never, ever works. So thanks, you clarified something that's bugged me for the last 3 years lol
Another great video. The 7k price on your 14 plate leaf is about what I'd expected. I paid 8k for my 14 plate leaf back in July. If you was to look for a 14 plate leaf on the market in the same condition, it would be 1k or so more than you was quoted. You did see a lot more snow than us. :)
At auction (trade) these are going for around £3k plus fees, as its going straight to auction was expecting a price not far off that to save them the hassle of getting it picked up and taken to an auction house. Thanks for watching! Yeah we got a lot this year, its not common though1 :)
Yes always clear all the snow off your vehicle before you move it anywhere. I would use that spade to try clear your driveway in future before the snow turns to slush then compacted ice. Sorry to see your ENV has had a bump. Hope it’s not too costly to get repaired. Check all your door seals and boot seal to see if there is any damage. You have water getting in somewhere to create that much damp air in the Leaf.
Road was closed due to adverse weather conditions and fallen trees, proper snow fall. Thanks for the offer of using our spade to come and clear our drive, that would be awesome! Will ping you message when it happens again!
why don't ev's have dynamos fitted to wheels to help improve range? my push bike as one built into front wheel to power lights. its not to heavy and has very little resistance.
Hi Ian, Thanks for another honest video. It's been quite a series !! I've learned a lot, and am still happy with my leaf........BUT, will be really interested to get your 'take' on life with a Zoe. Hope the dealership takes into account all your missionary work when you return the Leaf (ie they don't get really picky about its condition ) After all, you've probably 'sold' more Leafs than they ever will (!)
I would say get rid of the old leaf and moving to the new one the battery is 4 years old how much life does it have left considering the amount of charge cycle
Snow is very rare where I live (Christchurch, New Zealand), however I am constantly amazed how it's almost universal that folks pull in and park forward, and then need to reverse out. I recall donkey's years ago, a friend with a "home made" 1960's station waggon (estate car) that was a bastard to reverse, with it's tiny back window and no reversing lights at all, and we arrived during the daylight, at a friend's house for tea one late afternoon. So he drove forward up the long skinny driveway and parked , knowing full well it would be completely dark by the time we were going to be leaving. I even commented at the time "why didn't you back up the driveway while it it's light, so that when we go to leave, when it's dark, we can drive out easier as the car has headlights but no reversing lights". Especially when it's likely to be dark, or windows fogged up, or frosted , or snowed over, it just seems to me to be easier to set yourself up for driving out of parking spaces, whether at home, or out and about somewhere, in a forward direction. That said, as said by others here, perhaps special "snow" or "Winter" rated tyres might be worthwhile where you live. Leafs do have electronic traction control, and within limitations this acts somewhat like the old "limited slip diff", but if you often encounter ice or snow covered roads, then choose suitable boots for your steed dude !
To cut a long story short - had no idea it was going to snow. So parked up or normal the night before to wake to this one in every 5 year occurrence. Shame we don't have more of it to make it even worthwhile splashing the cash on all that winter equipment, but its the UK so pretty rare. Now - the more important part - footwear. If you take a really close look...would need hawk eyes though lol, I am wearing spiked shoes - they come out...about every 5 years...or unless its really muddy when I run the trails. No slippage, especially when running with a Husky.
I have a cousin, London born and bred, and he reckons that even in his lifetime he's noticed the Winters are much milder than they used to be, global warming (plus I guess, the warming effect of ever larger "mega-cities") and the effects on climate thereof. I've been watching the TH-cam videos of a Kiwi guy, now living in "Slovakia" with his Slovak wife, and he drives a Peugeot badged Mitsubishi iMiev, which has a snow setting for traction control and he runs Winter tyres for several months of the year. With rear wheel drive in a tiny car smaller than a Leaf, he manages driving all throughout Slovakia including short visits to Austria and Ukraine. Cheers Ian :)
Remember that the charge point is at the front of the vehicle, so if you need to charge overnight, or take advantage of the preheater/timer facility, you have to pull in forwards...
Yes that's a good point, but perhaps charge points for electric cars should be at or near the rear ? Some cars they already are, like the "Smart" although that car is so short that the front and rear aren't far apart anyway :) It is my understanding (although I don't know for sure) that in places which get REALLY cold, and where windscreen defosting and demisting is crucial, like minus 30 Celcius cold, like Chicago etc, that Fire engines and Ambulances sometimes have the electric supply socket for their coolant "block heater" mounted by the rear bumper. That way if they zoom out on an emergency call and they forgot to unplug it, the worst that happens is an electrical extension cord gets yanked a bit.
Snowy, icy Mitcheldean! Well done on getting around the Forest after 8 inches of snow that weekend. I wonder if the weight of EVs help getting grip in the snow? Winter tyres would of helped too, obviously.
Cheer Andrew, had kids to rescue :) Weight is a bad thing from what I understand in ice / snow - especially downhill. Used to have a range rover...it was terrible downhill, mind you it didnt have winter tires either.
Interesting you've had water leaking in. Found mould patches on the rear foot well carpets in my Leaf and they identified a failed seal in the bulkhead. Interestingly it doesn't seem to mist up quite as much since it was all fixed.
Sounds strange, but are you running your A/C at all? From what I remember, lots of owners didn't because they thought "Why would you?" but the way it's designed is that it's supposed to run even when you're heating as it'll remove the moisture out of the air. If you get a chance, run your car while it's plugged in with the A/C option on and see if that helps remove some of that moisture build up you got going on.
Yeah works for me (just put it on for when I leave the office in 5 mins)....except frustratingly when its really cold, and 15 minutes before you want to leave in the morning...it doesnt lol. One day they will be able to cope with the 'rush hour' load on the servers. Another app might work during busy periods (unless it ultimately leads it to go through their servers). I am always amazed how often it times out during the busy period, its no change from 4 years ago.
yeah timer works...if you leave at a set time each day. If I did that would be the solution, but sometimes I can leave an hour early or 30 mins later etc etc, so makes the time no good for my needs. Luckily its rarely iced up, so can just not worry about nissan server loads lol
Hello! Do you have an episode on here where you trial best way of de-fogging without draining the battery with A/C in warmer wet weather or heat in winter? Biggup! X
Merry Christmas to you and the family Ian... On the subject of remote pre heat start etc I use Leaf Manager app (Connected to 'Europe') and have not had an issue for well over a year now - I used it twice daily during the recent cold snap. Luckily very little snow round our way - just a light dusting that didn't settle (but did also reach -5)... Bruce looks very much at home in the snow - you know you want to :D., better hide the harness from Amy though! Sorry to hear about the war wounds but at least nobody was hurt... All the best for 2018!
The door squeak is most likely the electric contacts. They were terrible in a car I owned that had those if you didn't use grease. But you need to use the kind for electronics or wiring.
Hi ian, I'm down in south devon and wish we had your snow. Its great to see bruce enjoying himself. I'm a bit miffed with nissan at the moment as a LED has stopped working in one of my leafs headlight. Nissan warranty will not cover it. £967 for a replacement if you can believe it...
Help keep the damp at bay with one on these, got one in both my vehicles and they work a treat and don't cost anything really. You just chuck it on a radiator over night and it drys back out and can be reused. www.halfords.com/motoring/car-accessories/interior-car-accessories/thomar-vehicle-dehumidifier?request_type=bestseller
Regarding your moisture in the car. You should not be using the A/C in the winter, even if you would think that it is the best way to get rid of moisture in the air. The A/C leaves a bit of moisture in the system when it's turned off and the problem get worse and worse. So i was told to use normal heat and just air out a little bit when moisture is in the air from clothes etc. When you get rid of the moisture first time it off cause takes a long time but i have no problems with moisture in my leaf now. You can then use your A/C from time to time to get rid of the moisture, but let the heat stay on for some time after you shut off the A/C.
Lars Larsen that would be lovely...but heat on for 2 hours did nothing to touch it sadly! Tried to dry it out with no luck. Will have to get a dehumidifier and run a cable and leave it in the car one weekend and keep emptying it until the moisture is all pullled out. Pretty sure it will be bucket loads.
+Ian Sampson Because you have so much moisture i will take much longer time to get rid of it with the cars heater. So either park it inside a heated garage with door open for some days or use a dehumidifier machine. But i bet that after you get rid of the moisture and only use A/C when really needed you will see that the A/C i much more effective. So you can maybe use A/C once and the you have to only use normal heat the next few times and open windows a bit to let out moisture if it accurs. In summer it's normally no problem.
+Ian Sampson i don't use auto function either. It doesn't regulate proper, a lot of the times it regulate air down to your feet, when you want the air up and the fan speed is set to low by the system. So go fully manual and turn off A/C right away when it comes on to defrost windshield. A way you can get rid of a lot of the moisture is the let the car be turned on with close to max heat and then open the windows slightly so you have a high temperature in the car but also let out the moistured air. You have to open windows to let out moisture when not using A/C, that is important. So i only use A/C when the family is in the car and moisture appears, because then i don't have time to fool around. Sorry to put so many details into it, but for me it was very important for my enjoyment of the car, so maybe others will find the information useful and don't think it won't work, it just takes some time until the car is totally dry inside.
The moisture problem is not related to using the AC, yes some moisture will enter the vehicle after shutdown but providing the system is fully topped up with gas (hence less moisture in the system) you'd expect some misting of the glass, just as it would with no AC system in colder weather. Has the AC every been serviced in the last 4 years? The problem you have is due to the water leak, the carpet looks bad enough in its self but the leak has been there awhile if I recall from previous videos? Under the carpet you'll find 1-2 inches of foam padding, likely to be carrying around a good few litres water by now, probably spread to the entire carpet. The only fix will be get the carpet out and do a proper dry out, the carpet will probably be scrap. Best get it fully valeted before giving it back to the lovely Arval, otherwise expect a nice bill.
Generally with ICE cars it is a good practice to fire up the air con occasionally during winter to keep the seals lubricated to stop them cracking and hence leaking refrigerant - I am guessing that the LEAF aircon follows similar principles... The LEAF does seem a little prone to misting at the best of times but this amount does imply a leak somewhere (wet carpet syndrome) rather than wet hair or wet dog...
Zimpaz trying to turn it from white to brown..going well so far. Sick of spending 60 mins cleaning it...for it to then look like this by the end of the day, so much so I now don’t bother lol
Ahh just like the Zoe the app is rubbish, I plan to do a video on my channel about the Renault Zoe preheat but now the weather has warmed up i need to think of something else
Forget that question. I've carefully re-watched that part of the video, and worked it out for myself. You used the CYC charger near Cheltenham station, instead of going to the racecourse.
Great video I loved it when you was in the forest bit the trees looked stunning.... What will you do about the leaf and having a car once it goes back in January I'm guessing use the touran again temporarily and hope you get the env200 fixed soon or you will be without both electric cars
ENv200 is fine like it is, its not off the road or anything so thats one good thing! Will use Touran in between I think :) Forest was really pretty, nice an quiet too!
thanks Ian. Have a very merry X mas to your family and yourself. I would not mind the new Leaf. Thinking about the Visia as the repayments would be cheaper and you still get the 40kw batt. Not sure if you get the auto drving features though,.
Thanks for watching. The Pro Pilot - not sure if thats worth the dosh after watching a few reviews on what it does (unless there will be updates over the air to make it even more capable). If I wasnt getting the Zoe for such a good price, then I would be waiting for the next version in 2019 (Possible 60kwh version)
This is me going back to watch all your Leaf videos you traitor lol. I'll be in the market for a 30kwh 6.6 Tekna in a few months. Hope you're enjoying the ZOE Ian :)
Ian we had similar amount of snow last week, I had to abandon the leaf it wouldn’t grip in the snow at all and was sliding sideways I’m not used to automatic drive so maybe I was at fault but made me think what will happen if we get a hard winter, my warm up app works fine though.
Ian, in New Hampshire this is what normal life for me is like from November until March. I currently have 11 inches in my yard. Our roads are plowed and passable within hours of the storm, unless it's a blizzard. I didn't realize England got this type of weather. Where are you located, and is this much snow common though out winter? Doesn't public services clear your roads? Also, did I miss what your plans are ... until your Zoe is delivered? Oh, and If you get stuck in the snow again, just have Bruce pull you, it's in his blood!
Lol yeah he could pull the car if he wanted! We did joke about getting a sled! Its really not a common occurance, this much snow probably approx once every 3-4 years something like that.
R.P. Rosen we've not had a "proper winter" in the UK for over 2 6 years and counting (we used to have -6 and lower for four months Every year! Most brits forget about icicles hanging off guttering and clothes that made us look like the Michelin man! I fit goodyear ultra grip series winter tyres regardless of snow in case it does! Never been stuck since ;)
Winter tyres are definitely the thing to have, I'm on the moors in the Pennines, Nokian WR D3 serve me well in the snow, a different league than summer tyres.
That is a huge amount of hassle. Progress is quite fast though, my Zoe could do that journey easily in one go in the summer and with a quick Zap at this time of year - admittedly it hasn't got the same interior space.
Hello from the USA. A high-volt Hybrid or Electric Car's battery-pack is never allowed to go below 50 ish-60%actual full charge to prolong Battery Life. So the battery gauge in actuality represents the split-difference. And Rapid-Charging any Battery: Lithium,Nickle,Lead,etc......even with the coolant circuits to keep the Battery-Pack at optimum temperature.....Fast Charging any Battery is Murder....depletes its overall lifespan by years. A neighbor of mine went to Harbor Freight (discount tool place with most the stuff from China).....she spent $300.00 for two 100 watt solar chargers and a hooptie Harbor Frieght $40.00 bucks Inverter.....she rarely ever has to hookup to her house or elsewhere when she uses her Leaf for work/errands. Her work does not have a Charging station/or nearby 110volt outlet...so she just lays one Harbor Freight Solar panel on the back parcel with the inverter that goes to the Leaf's 12 volt battery as the buffer to the charging Port.....and charges it up at work,etc.Surprising (Harbor Freight stuff can be sketchy); almost 3 years later those solar panels and Inverter never let her down.
Yeah sure do, but found that sometimes it would be running for 30 minutes or more (at around 3kw) as sometimes get held up leaving OR leave earlier, so its doesnt really work for me. (If the car is unplugged - unusual - then it only runs for 15mins....and so its almost always cold when its set on this for me...either get in earlier or get in 10 mins after).
Yes used it on the way back (as in video) so some reason...we still have no idea why, it didn't work the first time. (Must be a member of 'Polar Plus')
6 stops - 5 Rapids. (The slow post can be almost discounted, it only gave 5.5kw's into the battery as was not on that long). Left the office on 67%, got to cheltnham (charge 1 on 32%), then on the final 5th Rapid Charge I left on around 62% I think from memory. Range was really bad on the motorway, 0 and -1c and fully loaded env200. Think the temp had a LOT to do with it (plus it wasnt quite just 80 miles each way in the end as the m4 was closed and had a diversion (but only added around 10 miles each way onto the journey)
few observations, 1 why didnt you clear your car fully of snow before move off your drivway onto a public road?? 2. lowering your tyre pressures for slush is pointless just buy winter tyres or all season tyres 3. absolutely shocking scene of blocking a roadway to adjust tyres, your forward planning is so poor its laughable. fail to prepare prepare to fail.
Lol, calm it down dear Graham, the roads were 'closed' - except people with stuck children and 4x4's. 2. without tires put down it would never have made it, comment only if you were there in the situation, making assertions based on no knowledge of the situation apart from a few videos is not enough grounds to make a well rounded calculation on what should or shouldn't be done. Road was NOT blocked by me (blocked would denote no other way to pass), although it was blocked by the snow and fallen trees. You are right though, ignore the fact that a pedestrian is in the road, beep your horn and plow on regardless. Lol, thats the shocking part....trying to run someone over...thats shocking. Letting air out of tires where there was no where else to do so on that point of the journey - .that's less shocking, sssheeeesshhh priorities. Luckily your last point proves that I must have prepared....as no failure occurred - unless "fail to prepare prepare to fail." is not a worthwhile saying? Catch you later Mr Perfect ;)
i'm glad you addressed me properly "Mr Perfect" p.s that purchase price is hilarious you can buy the same year and lower miles cheaper, zero incentive from Nissan then.
ha ha. Yeah, auction price is around £2-£3k! They must be making money somewhere, like gap insurance or something. The prices given are more to put you off extending the lease or buying from what I can see.
Got a renault Zoe on order, 175 mile range (200 in city) and half the price of the entry level Tesla Model 3. Leaf has been an awesome car for the last 4 years and 60,000 miles. time to change it up now :)
I do like the new Leaf a lot but the range just isn't enough until they launch the 200 mile version. I'd get the Ioniq EV personally, but if you really need the extra range then I guess the Zoe will be best when the Bolt EV isn't available. Great video, just found this channel and subscribed
That looked really tight when you got to the ecotricity point. As you said it doesn’t make EVs look appealing to your passengers which is a real shame. Not surprised about the price to buy it. I’m interested to see if they can sell it for that price once they get it back. Second hand EVs do seem very expensive here compared to the US.
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Dude snow Tires, big difference you are the Rural Leaf after all.
Once in every 5 year occurrence doesn't make it worth it splashing the cash...especially seeing even then she didn't get stuck. I dont like buying screen wash as £2 for it would give me 100 miles driving, so splashing the cash on some once in a 5 year use snow tires is really unlikely ha ha :)
Ian Sampson I don't blame you. I live in East Tennessee mountains in the USA and we get several snows per winter. I'm 52 years old and have never bought snow tires. I do keep a set of snow cables just in case I get caught out in a big snow storm. I have very seldom used them. Oh yeah, I've never had a wreck in the snow either. I probably have driven 50,000 miles on snow covered roads that were completely covered. You wouldn't own an EV if you didn't care to throw money around for the premium items.
Bryan, you have just covered an interesting point. In the UK, from all the friends and family ranging from young drivers all the way up to 80+ year olds I know no one who owns a set of specialist snow tires. The ENV200 wasn't even in the snow (or ice) when the bump happened, that was caused by a lorry cutting across the road into a line of oncoming traffic - and a mini pile up (pile ups occur year round...although it was around 5c.
I have never suffered an sort of accident in the snow (mainly because these events are every 5 years ish), more over never had an accident at all in 18 years of driving.
Testing the new tires after driving a couple hundred miles a couple of weeks ago and they stopped just like they do in summer period (gripped the road, no slide or squirming)
Now, colder climates and other situations - for sure suspect there is a reason there are laws in places - i.e. you don't have them fitted you WILL crash...thats different. To suggest no research has been done and we all just go blindly driving around in some sort of unsafe environment because we are to daft to look into it is a bit of a stretch at best. (If it was just me and everyone else had them, then that would be the case....but no one has them here in the UK.
One interesting thing that was on BBC radio 4 yesterday - putting a cap on the length of time you can have tires, i.e. a lifespan. They want in law for it to be 10 years otherwise tires are potentially dangerous. That would certainly making having a spare set sat in the garage at great expensive interesting, especially if in the UK they were rarely used.
RattyB75 No requirement in the UK through numerous bodies not deeming it needed / required. Personal experience across multiple generations cannot be dismissed, it’s real life data. But as it’s a hotly debated subject will just leave it at that.
Have a good Christmas!
RattyB75 in the UK it’s called sarcasm, also joking. Hard to explain in text but ahem, basically she was making excuses. For example, when she said it was me who did it with the shovel...well...she didn’t actually really mean it was me...just a joke to try and pretend it wasn’t her fault. Of course she know it was a driving error. Anyhooo.... have a good Christmas!
Ian you should shovel your drive. Makes winter life much easier.
Yeah I noticed that too. Ian using the shovel to clear the snow off the the ENV200 (LOL) but leaving the wet gooey snow on the driveway. A little salt on the wheel paths would have helped also.
Hi Ian
Just consecutively watched all 119 episodes (apx 3 weeks) very informative & educational thoroughly enjoyed the journey with you. I purchased my 65 plate leaf apx 2 months ago and loving it - fortunately I have 2 local customers (within 1/2 mile of home with free 7kw chargers I park up just before bed and stroll down (3 min walk) to 100% charge everyday no fuel costs its fantastic - keep up the great work good luck with the zoe looking forward to the new vlogs best wishes to you & family
Congrats on the purchase! Thanks for watching!
Hey Ian, glad to see an update from you. One thing, I didn't realize you'd get snow that deep in England...very exciting! I get moisture from the weather in my 2012 in Spokane, Washington, USA. We also get the snow. My moisture problem is not anywhere close to your issue, but it could be because I constantly use my heater and defroster. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you mentioned sometime in a past video, that you rarely use the heater to preserve power. The Leaf's seem to be so tightly made and sealed up, that just breathing causes my windows to fog up. Your moisture brought back memories from years ago when I owned a '63 VW Beetle and a '65 Chevrolet Corvair. In the winter and rainy spring, I would have to use a towel to wipe down the interior windows to just see out. Talking about EV range, I couldn't help but wonder what your buddies thought of the constant charging to go somewhere. I can imagine they had nothing good to say about using EV's and the hassle it causes to having to stop and recharge every few miles. It's the around town benefits that pay off in big ways when you don't have to stop for gas. I'm looking forward to your next video. Thanks again for the update!
The UK is much further north than even Canada, so we can actually get quite a fair amount of snow, but it rarely sticks around for so very long. The jet stream frequently blows relatively warm, wet Atlantic air across the UK, so it usually melts off quite soon.
The Leaf Tekna I did a 4 day test drive of in September was fantastic! Can't believe you've had yours 4 years now!
Up to date at last. Started just before Christmas and just got up to date now. Thanks for that Ian and co. great youtubing. Now I can follow at a more sedate pace - looking forward to the Zoe story.
Lol, well done for catching up....thats a lot of footage!
To combat Dampness building up inside cars, especially during certain weather conditions, most modern dinosaur fuelled vehicles have some setting available of the windscreen Demister/defroster, which can operate the air conditioner and the heater at the same time. So that dehumidifies and cools fresh outside air, then heats it and blows it across the windows. However the functioning of a Nissan EV HVAC system might be different. Usually leaving the air intake controls set to admit outside fresh air, reduces problems of humid air building up inside vehicles and fogging the windows. Use of the "recirculate" air position is best saved for use only when driving through outback Australian bushfires ! and possibly also, when driving in temperatures of above 40*C or below -10*C
Winter tyres makes a massive difference
When the snow hit my area it was -8 according to my Leaf! It handled it well though other than having quite high consumption of 469 Wh/Mile
Yeah the cold really kills the battery, especially mine now being so old and having done so many miles. I think in that weather I was getting around 65 miles per charge as long as I didnt pre heat...then it was even less!
Ian Sampson I'm preheating while plugged in so that helps.
Bruce was hunting for mice. My wolf cross could get one in three feet of snow. The jump traps the mouse in the snow so it can be dug up
They are awesome aren't they :)
I thought it was just me, but every single cold morning when you want pre-heat the Nissan servers are overloaded and it never, ever works. So thanks, you clarified something that's bugged me for the last 3 years lol
No its not just you ;) Same with Amys EN200 as well. Both have the same issue at peak times.
Another great video. The 7k price on your 14 plate leaf is about what I'd expected. I paid 8k for my 14 plate leaf back in July. If you was to look for a 14 plate leaf on the market in the same condition, it would be 1k or so more than you was quoted. You did see a lot more snow than us. :)
At auction (trade) these are going for around £3k plus fees, as its going straight to auction was expecting a price not far off that to save them the hassle of getting it picked up and taken to an auction house. Thanks for watching! Yeah we got a lot this year, its not common though1 :)
Yes always clear all the snow off your vehicle before you move it anywhere. I would use that spade to try clear your driveway in future before the snow turns to slush then compacted ice. Sorry to see your ENV has had a bump. Hope it’s not too costly to get repaired.
Check all your door seals and boot seal to see if there is any damage. You have water getting in somewhere to create that much damp air in the Leaf.
Road was closed due to adverse weather conditions and fallen trees, proper snow fall. Thanks for the offer of using our spade to come and clear our drive, that would be awesome! Will ping you message when it happens again!
PS - cost to repair ENV200 in the £1500 region sadly, so will be like that for quite some time!
Ian Sampson you live too far from me to be honest. By the time I got there the snow would be gone haha!!!
ha ha!
Ian Sampson £1500 😱
Get a few more quotes.
Another great video, thanks Ian!
Cheers!
why don't ev's have dynamos fitted to wheels to help improve range? my push bike as one built into front wheel to power lights. its not to heavy and has very little resistance.
Hi Ian, Thanks for another honest video. It's been quite a series !! I've learned a lot, and am still happy with my leaf........BUT, will be really interested to get your 'take' on life with a Zoe.
Hope the dealership takes into account all your missionary work when you return the Leaf (ie they don't get really picky about its condition ) After all, you've probably 'sold' more Leafs than they ever will (!)
It has been a journey for sure, cant believe 4 years has gone by! I suspect they will be super picky, ah well, hopefully it will turn out ok :)
I would say get rid of the old leaf and moving to the new one the battery is 4 years old how much life does it have left considering the amount of charge cycle
Snow is very rare where I live (Christchurch, New Zealand), however I am constantly amazed how it's almost universal that folks pull in and park forward, and then need to reverse out. I recall donkey's years ago, a friend with a "home made" 1960's station waggon (estate car) that was a bastard to reverse, with it's tiny back window and no reversing lights at all, and we arrived during the daylight, at a friend's house for tea one late afternoon. So he drove forward up the long skinny driveway and parked , knowing full well it would be completely dark by the time we were going to be leaving. I even commented at the time "why didn't you back up the driveway while it it's light, so that when we go to leave, when it's dark, we can drive out easier as the car has headlights but no reversing lights". Especially when it's likely to be dark, or windows fogged up, or frosted , or snowed over, it just seems to me to be easier to set yourself up for driving out of parking spaces, whether at home, or out and about somewhere, in a forward direction. That said, as said by others here, perhaps special "snow" or "Winter" rated tyres might be worthwhile where you live. Leafs do have electronic traction control, and within limitations this acts somewhat like the old "limited slip diff", but if you often encounter ice or snow covered roads, then choose suitable boots for your steed dude !
To cut a long story short - had no idea it was going to snow. So parked up or normal the night before to wake to this one in every 5 year occurrence. Shame we don't have more of it to make it even worthwhile splashing the cash on all that winter equipment, but its the UK so pretty rare.
Now - the more important part - footwear. If you take a really close look...would need hawk eyes though lol, I am wearing spiked shoes - they come out...about every 5 years...or unless its really muddy when I run the trails. No slippage, especially when running with a Husky.
I have a cousin, London born and bred, and he reckons that even in his lifetime he's noticed the Winters are much milder than they used to be, global warming (plus I guess, the warming effect of ever larger "mega-cities") and the effects on climate thereof. I've been watching the TH-cam videos of a Kiwi guy, now living in "Slovakia" with his Slovak wife, and he drives a Peugeot badged Mitsubishi iMiev, which has a snow setting for traction control and he runs Winter tyres for several months of the year. With rear wheel drive in a tiny car smaller than a Leaf, he manages driving all throughout Slovakia including short visits to Austria and Ukraine. Cheers Ian :)
Remember that the charge point is at the front of the vehicle, so if you need to charge overnight, or take advantage of the preheater/timer facility, you have to pull in forwards...
Yes that's a good point, but perhaps charge points for electric cars should be at or near the rear ? Some cars they already are, like the "Smart" although that car is so short that the front and rear aren't far apart anyway :) It is my understanding (although I don't know for sure) that in places which get REALLY cold, and where windscreen defosting and demisting is crucial, like minus 30 Celcius cold, like Chicago etc, that Fire engines and Ambulances sometimes have the electric supply socket for their coolant "block heater" mounted by the rear bumper. That way if they zoom out on an emergency call and they forgot to unplug it, the worst that happens is an electrical extension cord gets yanked a bit.
Snowy, icy Mitcheldean! Well done on getting around the Forest after 8 inches of snow that weekend. I wonder if the weight of EVs help getting grip in the snow? Winter tyres would of helped too, obviously.
Cheer Andrew, had kids to rescue :) Weight is a bad thing from what I understand in ice / snow - especially downhill. Used to have a range rover...it was terrible downhill, mind you it didnt have winter tires either.
Interesting you've had water leaking in. Found mould patches on the rear foot well carpets in my Leaf and they identified a failed seal in the bulkhead. Interestingly it doesn't seem to mist up quite as much since it was all fixed.
Sounds strange, but are you running your A/C at all?
From what I remember, lots of owners didn't because they thought "Why would you?" but the way it's designed is that it's supposed to run even when you're heating as it'll remove the moisture out of the air. If you get a chance, run your car while it's plugged in with the A/C option on and see if that helps remove some of that moisture build up you got going on.
looked like there was a leak by the sun visor, but I'm guessing that would be too obvious and spotted already.
My 2015 Leaf has a front de-mist button which sets the heat and AC on, the fan up, and blows it all at the front windscreen. Quite effective!
David Stewart ac systems should be run occasionally for say 10 minutes. Helps prevent mildew, clogging, and lubes/conditioners the systems parts.
Wow! You've managed to get a bit of snow. We had none in Dover
It works for me with my leaf. I am also using an app called EVA on my iphone and I can also switch heating on from there.
Yeah works for me (just put it on for when I leave the office in 5 mins)....except frustratingly when its really cold, and 15 minutes before you want to leave in the morning...it doesnt lol. One day they will be able to cope with the 'rush hour' load on the servers. Another app might work during busy periods (unless it ultimately leads it to go through their servers). I am always amazed how often it times out during the busy period, its no change from 4 years ago.
there's an option to put it on a timer in the app. I do that quite a lot, saves me from having to stare at the phone for 5 minutes.
yeah timer works...if you leave at a set time each day. If I did that would be the solution, but sometimes I can leave an hour early or 30 mins later etc etc, so makes the time no good for my needs. Luckily its rarely iced up, so can just not worry about nissan server loads lol
Hello! Do you have an episode on here where you trial best way of de-fogging without draining the battery with A/C in warmer wet weather or heat in winter? Biggup! X
Yes, used fogdoc for quite a few episodes and it worked a treat!
Merry Christmas to you and the family Ian... On the subject of remote pre heat start etc I use Leaf Manager app (Connected to 'Europe') and have not had an issue for well over a year now - I used it twice daily during the recent cold snap. Luckily very little snow round our way - just a light dusting that didn't settle (but did also reach -5)... Bruce looks very much at home in the snow - you know you want to :D., better hide the harness from Amy though! Sorry to hear about the war wounds but at least nobody was hurt...
All the best for 2018!
The door squeak is most likely the electric contacts. They were terrible in a car I owned that had those if you didn't use grease. But you need to use the kind for electronics or wiring.
that leak from the roof is the glue for the windscreen failing to bond to the windscreen when it got wet
wet it was fitted.
Hi ian, I'm down in south devon and wish we had your snow. Its great to see bruce enjoying himself. I'm a bit miffed with nissan at the moment as a LED has stopped working in one of my leafs headlight. Nissan warranty will not cover it. £967 for a replacement if you can believe it...
WOW £1000 for a headlight!! thats crazy! Our snow gets pretty bad in the forest, which is good for a husky :)
Follow up on TH-cam replacing headlights seemed very simple.
Really hope the new leaf has that key feature for pre heating
it has
MrMmva not from what I’ve read. Spoke to the EV guy at chorley nissan and he said the key is the same as the old one
Key is same but you can set a timer or turn on in app that now works!
Some Snow tires wold help a lot mate,you bought that Leaf from Arval Lease company or gave it to British car Auction ?
The leasing company took it back (see the last leaf episode prior to getting the Zoe).
23:00 - well-trained dog. Shame about the accident with the ENV200. Thanks for the video.
Cheers dude (more on Bruce here in a seperate blog if your interested th-cam.com/video/40hXEbSZ0lw/w-d-xo.html) Thanks for watching!
Another channel? That's a lot of work. I like your gadget one too.
Yeah one dedicated to Brucey :) Dont get much time to put content on any of them to be fair!
When are going to take a 2018 Leaf out for a spin. I am interested in your opinion.
News on this here: th-cam.com/video/CBfpX-b8X90/w-d-xo.html
Don’t understand why you had to charge 5 times for 160 miles - particularly with destination charging - did you start out full?
Help keep the damp at bay with one on these, got one in both my vehicles and they work a treat and don't cost anything really. You just chuck it on a radiator over night and it drys back out and can be reused.
www.halfords.com/motoring/car-accessories/interior-car-accessories/thomar-vehicle-dehumidifier?request_type=bestseller
Cant be sure about cabin moisture, but first thing to ask would be is recirculation engaged?
Regarding your moisture in the car. You should not be using the A/C in the winter, even if you would think that it is the best way to get rid of moisture in the air. The A/C leaves a bit of moisture in the system when it's turned off and the problem get worse and worse.
So i was told to use normal heat and just air out a little bit when moisture is in the air from clothes etc.
When you get rid of the moisture first time it off cause takes a long time but i have no problems with moisture in my leaf now. You can then use your A/C from time to time to get rid of the moisture, but let the heat stay on for some time after you shut off the A/C.
Lars Larsen that would be lovely...but heat on for 2 hours did nothing to touch it sadly! Tried to dry it out with no luck. Will have to get a dehumidifier and run a cable and leave it in the car one weekend and keep emptying it until the moisture is all pullled out. Pretty sure it will be bucket loads.
+Ian Sampson
Because you have so much moisture i will take much longer time to get rid of it with the cars heater. So either park it inside a heated garage with door open for some days or use a dehumidifier machine. But i bet that after you get rid of the moisture and only use A/C when really needed you will see that the A/C i much more effective. So you can maybe use A/C once and the you have to only use normal heat the next few times and open windows a bit to let out moisture if it accurs. In summer it's normally no problem.
+Ian Sampson i don't use auto function either. It doesn't regulate proper, a lot of the times it regulate air down to your feet, when you want the air up and the fan speed is set to low by the system. So go fully manual and turn off A/C right away when it comes on to defrost windshield.
A way you can get rid of a lot of the moisture is the let the car be turned on with close to max heat and then open the windows slightly so you have a high temperature in the car but also let out the moistured air. You have to open windows to let out moisture when not using A/C, that is important.
So i only use A/C when the family is in the car and moisture appears, because then i don't have time to fool around.
Sorry to put so many details into it, but for me it was very important for my enjoyment of the car, so maybe others will find the information useful and don't think it won't work, it just takes some time until the car is totally dry inside.
The moisture problem is not related to using the AC, yes some moisture will enter the vehicle after shutdown but providing the system is fully topped up with gas (hence less moisture in the system) you'd expect some misting of the glass, just as it would with no AC system in colder weather.
Has the AC every been serviced in the last 4 years?
The problem you have is due to the water leak, the carpet looks bad enough in its self but the leak has been there awhile if I recall from previous videos?
Under the carpet you'll find 1-2 inches of foam padding, likely to be carrying around a good few litres water by now, probably spread to the entire carpet. The only fix will be get the carpet out and do a proper dry out, the carpet will probably be scrap.
Best get it fully valeted before giving it back to the lovely Arval, otherwise expect a nice bill.
Generally with ICE cars it is a good practice to fire up the air con occasionally during winter to keep the seals lubricated to stop them cracking and hence leaking refrigerant - I am guessing that the LEAF aircon follows similar principles... The LEAF does seem a little prone to misting at the best of times but this amount does imply a leak somewhere (wet carpet syndrome) rather than wet hair or wet dog...
ian, what do you think about 40 kw env200,mine be 3 years old in march
That’s one dirty looking leaf! How’s it worn? Do you think they will pick anything up when you return it?
Zimpaz trying to turn it from white to brown..going well so far. Sick of spending 60 mins cleaning it...for it to then look like this by the end of the day, so much so I now don’t bother lol
Ahh just like the Zoe the app is rubbish, I plan to do a video on my channel about the Renault Zoe preheat but now the weather has warmed up i need to think of something else
Ian. What network is the charger at Cheltenham Racecourse? ZapMap says its a Polar but it looks like it worked with a CYC card, not Polar.
Forget that question. I've carefully re-watched that part of the video, and worked it out for myself. You used the CYC charger near Cheltenham station, instead of going to the racecourse.
Correct (and that one is CYC but also accepts polar plus cards)
Great video I loved it when you was in the forest bit the trees looked stunning....
What will you do about the leaf and having a car once it goes back in January I'm guessing use the touran again temporarily and hope you get the env200 fixed soon or you will be without both electric cars
ENv200 is fine like it is, its not off the road or anything so thats one good thing!
Will use Touran in between I think :)
Forest was really pretty, nice an quiet too!
Ian Sampson be nice if you did a tribute video to the leaf before it goes back
What blowing it up top gear style...ha ha :)
Ian Sampson haha I'm not sure the lease company would approve haha
Ian, look out for falling pianos and caravans!
thanks Ian. Have a very merry X mas to your family and yourself. I would not mind the new Leaf. Thinking about the Visia as the repayments would be cheaper and you still get the 40kw batt. Not sure if you get the auto drving features though,.
Thanks for watching. The Pro Pilot - not sure if thats worth the dosh after watching a few reviews on what it does (unless there will be updates over the air to make it even more capable). If I wasnt getting the Zoe for such a good price, then I would be waiting for the next version in 2019 (Possible 60kwh version)
That transition though, if you've never seen Ian, 0:36 Loki is driving an EV, also 2:14 - that's what she said.
Great video Ian, hope you get the Zoe soon.
Thanks Martin, still March I think :(
nice video I'm interested in your prep of the leaf and the hand back process, given its a 4 yr old car how nit picky can they be ?!?!
This is me going back to watch all your Leaf videos you traitor lol. I'll be in the market for a 30kwh 6.6 Tekna in a few months. Hope you're enjoying the ZOE Ian :)
lol, still have a new env200, same thing but in van form ha ha. Zoe is a dream!
Ian we had similar amount of snow last week, I had to abandon the leaf it wouldn’t grip in the snow at all and was sliding sideways
I’m not used to automatic drive so maybe I was at fault but made me think what will happen if we get a hard winter, my warm up app works fine though.
I found eco mode helped in the snow, too much torque otherwise!
What’s wrong with getting a car and filling up with fuel. All this charging crap is ridiculous
Ian, in New Hampshire this is what normal life for me is like from November until March. I currently have 11 inches in my yard. Our roads are plowed and passable within hours of the storm, unless it's a blizzard. I didn't realize England got this type of weather. Where are you located, and is this much snow common though out winter? Doesn't public services clear your roads? Also, did I miss what your plans are ... until your Zoe is delivered? Oh, and If you get stuck in the snow again, just have Bruce pull you, it's in his blood!
Lol yeah he could pull the car if he wanted! We did joke about getting a sled!
Its really not a common occurance, this much snow probably approx once every 3-4 years something like that.
R.P. Rosen we've not had a "proper winter" in the UK for over 2 6 years and counting (we used to have -6 and lower for four months Every year! Most brits forget about icicles hanging off guttering and clothes that made us look like the Michelin man! I fit goodyear ultra grip series winter tyres regardless of snow in case it does! Never been stuck since ;)
Fancy a Bev Mate? If you ever miss your proper winter, come visit me here ... in New England. I think you'd fare just fine here! LOL
R.P. Rosen we have cousins in the North West territories if we need extra cold ;) Happy Christmas from the flatlands of Essex ;)
Winter tyres are definitely the thing to have, I'm on the moors in the Pennines, Nokian WR D3 serve me well in the snow, a different league than summer tyres.
Thanks for Episode 119 (unsubtle hint!). Have a really good 2018.
lol, not sure what you mean....cough cough....
Must have misread it (cough, cough!). How much of that condensation is as a result of that annoying water leak?
That is a huge amount of hassle. Progress is quite fast though, my Zoe could do that journey easily in one go in the summer and with a quick Zap at this time of year - admittedly it hasn't got the same interior space.
Yeah its the 7 seats which is the clincher. Just not possible in anything else ev (well unless you got a mortgage out on a Model X)
Hello from the USA. A high-volt Hybrid or Electric Car's battery-pack is never allowed to go below 50 ish-60%actual full charge to prolong Battery Life. So the battery gauge in actuality represents the split-difference. And Rapid-Charging any Battery: Lithium,Nickle,Lead,etc......even with the coolant circuits to keep the Battery-Pack at optimum temperature.....Fast Charging any Battery is Murder....depletes its overall lifespan by years. A neighbor of mine went to Harbor Freight (discount tool place with most the stuff from China).....she spent $300.00 for two 100 watt solar chargers and a hooptie Harbor Frieght $40.00 bucks Inverter.....she rarely ever has to hookup to her house or elsewhere when she uses her Leaf for work/errands. Her work does not have a Charging station/or nearby 110volt outlet...so she just lays one Harbor Freight Solar panel on the back parcel with the inverter that goes to the Leaf's 12 volt battery as the buffer to the charging Port.....and charges it up at work,etc.Surprising (Harbor Freight stuff can be sketchy); almost 3 years later those solar panels and Inverter never let her down.
Goodness gracious this charging is frustrating
Do you not have the option to set a timer for the preheat Ian? I set mine the night before or early in the morning to avoid the busy period 👍
Yeah sure do, but found that sometimes it would be running for 30 minutes or more (at around 3kw) as sometimes get held up leaving OR leave earlier, so its doesnt really work for me. (If the car is unplugged - unusual - then it only runs for 15mins....and so its almost always cold when its set on this for me...either get in earlier or get in 10 mins after).
Ian Sampson I see. I usually only use the preheat when the car is unplugged. That’s some snow you’ve had down their mate!
Yeah, still some thick snow where I walk bruce...crazy - over a week ago!
Can't believe its been 4 years you've had the Leaf now. Quick question Ian, can you really use a Polar Card on a CYC rapid? Thanks.
Yes used it on the way back (as in video) so some reason...we still have no idea why, it didn't work the first time. (Must be a member of 'Polar Plus')
Ian Sampson Umm only have a Polar Instant card but will give that a go on our next long trip anyway. Thanks.
Apparently Polar purchased the CYC network recently.
6 stops for 160 miles? So less than 30 miles between charge??
6 stops - 5 Rapids. (The slow post can be almost discounted, it only gave 5.5kw's into the battery as was not on that long). Left the office on 67%, got to cheltnham (charge 1 on 32%), then on the final 5th Rapid Charge I left on around 62% I think from memory. Range was really bad on the motorway, 0 and -1c and fully loaded env200. Think the temp had a LOT to do with it (plus it wasnt quite just 80 miles each way in the end as the m4 was closed and had a diversion (but only added around 10 miles each way onto the journey)
interesting!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for watching! Have a good Christmas :)
Still no luck with that door?
in the snow with summer tires?
Больно смотреть на вашу неопытность в зимнем вождении.
i have a kia soul ev 30kw 160 miles i would only charge once....
Times have sure changed
merry christmas guys
tha app works fine with 30kwh leaf.
Drifters stitch for the eNV bumper maybe? lol
few observations, 1 why didnt you clear your car fully of snow before move off your drivway onto a public road?? 2. lowering your tyre pressures for slush is pointless just buy winter tyres or all season tyres 3. absolutely shocking scene of blocking a roadway to adjust tyres, your forward planning is so poor its laughable. fail to prepare prepare to fail.
Lol, calm it down dear Graham, the roads were 'closed' - except people with stuck children and 4x4's. 2. without tires put down it would never have made it, comment only if you were there in the situation, making assertions based on no knowledge of the situation apart from a few videos is not enough grounds to make a well rounded calculation on what should or shouldn't be done.
Road was NOT blocked by me (blocked would denote no other way to pass), although it was blocked by the snow and fallen trees. You are right though, ignore the fact that a pedestrian is in the road, beep your horn and plow on regardless. Lol, thats the shocking part....trying to run someone over...thats shocking. Letting air out of tires where there was no where else to do so on that point of the journey - .that's less shocking, sssheeeesshhh priorities.
Luckily your last point proves that I must have prepared....as no failure occurred - unless "fail to prepare prepare to fail." is not a worthwhile saying? Catch you later Mr Perfect ;)
i'm glad you addressed me properly "Mr Perfect" p.s that purchase price is hilarious you can buy the same year and lower miles cheaper, zero incentive from Nissan then.
ha ha. Yeah, auction price is around £2-£3k! They must be making money somewhere, like gap insurance or something. The prices given are more to put you off extending the lease or buying from what I can see.
you need a ryobi 40v snow blower
Wish I'd watch the full video first? LOL
ha ha
liquid
Get bolt ev t have alot of range
Not available in the UK, also its not a 7 seater.
Get a used Tesla or new one if you have the money or get or reserve a mode 3 Tesla nissan leaf is terrible.
Got a renault Zoe on order, 175 mile range (200 in city) and half the price of the entry level Tesla Model 3. Leaf has been an awesome car for the last 4 years and 60,000 miles. time to change it up now :)
What does it cost to rent a car for a month?
I do like the new Leaf a lot but the range just isn't enough until they launch the 200 mile version. I'd get the Ioniq EV personally, but if you really need the extra range then I guess the Zoe will be best when the Bolt EV isn't available. Great video, just found this channel and subscribed
That looked really tight when you got to the ecotricity point.
As you said it doesn’t make EVs look appealing to your passengers which is a real shame.
Not surprised about the price to buy it. I’m interested to see if they can sell it for that price once they get it back. Second hand EVs do seem very expensive here compared to the US.
Auction price will be approx £2-£3k plus fees most likely. Would be amazed if it exceeded that.
Old Leaf prices should start to plummet, once the new 40kWh ones start to be delivered.
And cheaply made, especially from a manufacturer that should know better
Roads conditions treacherous and you let your dog run loose onto the public highway. Totally irresponsible.
4Figgis calm it down. Road closed due to conditions, have a good cheerful Christmas 🎄
Ian Sampson Problem solved. Have a good one yourself.