Reminds me of when I was in a flight landing in SLC during a really heavy thunderstorm. Caused us to overshoot the runway and do a go around. I remember right as we started doing a pretty heavy bank to line back up in position, the flight attendant comes out and says "Alright, who wants fresh baked cookies?" and starts passing fresh and hot chocolate chip cookies to everyone rather hastily. It was probably to help keep everyone's nerves down. But for someone like me that rather enjoys rough plane rides, it was just a bonus.
Was on a plane, after they'd delayed boarding, and then they started handing out snacks - one type at a time - by the third snack, I knew it wasn't good. (Boarding delay due to plane malfunction, then weather blocked the rte - 4hr delay)
I've said this before, but I just want to thank the pilot(s) and ATC for their professionalism and commitment to help this aircraft. You could hear in the voice of Endeavor 5236 how concerned they were, and they were just vectoring out of the way.
Can I make a suggestion? Put a minute of nothing at the end of your videos. TH-cam puts up tiles and immediately launches into two unskippable ads at the end of your videos so if there is anything interesting right at the end we miss it.
Maybe if he were finished with his flight hours for the month and trying to get home, and snacks were an indication of a long wait on the tarmac before getting to a gate? But yeah, can't really see him complaining about snacks--it's free food, after all, even if it's not breakfast. XD
They'd prefer to be told 1/3 of the hydraulics on the airplane don't work and they might have to shut down the engine up front 😒 The last thing the crew wants in an emergency is to cause panic
more than likely hydraulic fluid got onto the engine and caught fire or started smoking. anytime foam is put on an engine it has to be removed and inspected.
You have a significant error in the transcription, and it was used in the thumbnail. At 1:32 they did not say "whole right side is INOP", they said the right side SYSTEM was inop. There's redundant hydro systems, they're reporting only a problem with System B driven by the starboard engine. Your misquote implies, to me at least, that all controls on the right side of the airplane are failed. That shouldn't happen because of redundancy but would be a much more severe situation.
yeah i was going to say system b controls trailing edge flaps and slats so losing landing with the t/e flaps deployed means the slower emdp was working just the loss of the edp from engine 2 emdp/ electric motor driven pump edp/ engine driven pump
Thanks. I didn't hear "system" when transcribing. Of course I understood they were refering to the hyd system, as they had just literally reported hydraulic issues.
Oh no it sounds like they were given those in the Terminal while on standby having been deplaned at a gate. No way they’d be on the plane when its being towed into a maintenance terminal for the engine removal.
@@jyggalag169Yeah, goes from no captain to providing snacks, so def appears they are likely in the Term, next to a new plane (not likely to board w/out a captain, but possible)
The snack comment is so true. Whenever I hear "please head to the kiosk to pick up your free coffee or tea" at the train station on my way to work, I know my train is very late or cancelled.
@@kcw906 knows what he's on about. But if you don't want pizza you must grab a dipped italian beef from a reputable hole in the wall or at least stop at a Harold's Chicken to taste what KFC couldn't achieve.
Both systems run the most important things, so losing the right side system doesn't lose the whole side of the aircraft ... and there's still things like electric flaps extension (SLOW!) and manual gear extension.
No, each engine drives a generator for electricity and a hydraulic system to move the flight controls and raise the landing gear. When one engine is lost the aircraft operates in a degraded fashion. The may have lost nose wheel steering which is why the ATC controller ask if they had to stop on the runway as opposed to taxiing off the runway.
A significant error in the transcription at 1:34, they said they lost the right side SYSTEM, not the right side, which could be interpreted as all controls on one side of the aircraft, which should not happen.
um the right side aka system b controls trailing edge flaps and slats so landing with the t/e flaps deployed means the slower emdp was working just the loss of the edp from engine 2 so i would say the right side was working emdp/ electric motor driven pump edp/ engine driven pump
Whole right side??? I call BS.. Engine 2 is "B" system hydraulic system. Primary flight controls surfaces alternate A-B. Also you have standby and electric systems. Definitely a system failure, but other safety back ups worked as advertised
Call BS? Were you inside the cockpit? You can notice the crew is dealing with the situation, they are just giving a bit of info to ATC, not the whole story, they are not going to tell every detail of the situation. A leak can mean you lose all SYS B.
Everytime I hear "hydraulics issue" I fear the worst, because most of the worst disasters in aviation have been related to hydraulics, like the well known Alaska 261 or Japan 123. Thanks god it wasnt that serious this time.
Alaska 261 wasn't a hydraulic issue, check out the ntsb report or the wiki (was stab jack screw failure from poor MX). 737's can fly with zero hydraulic pressure unlike most modern or heavier transport category aircraft, we've got old school cables. Its a bitch to hand fly that way but still gives me comfort that you can lose everything but as long as your VFR you'll be fine lol
How does a flight declare an emergency between Pittsburgh and Cleveland, and then fly all the way to Chicago? They flew past multiple airports after shutting down an engine?
Old school aviation: "We have an emergency! We're on fire! Wings have fallen off! Tell my wife I love h- (static)" Modern aviation: "We have an emergency. We're running some checklists. Talking to company. Might be a few minutes late touching down. Maybe roll the trucks just in case."
I had the exact same thought, CAK, CLE, DTW, IND, heck even if the checks took a while MDW would have been in path (though a transcon might have legit been too heavy for MDW). They definitely went to ORD for operational reasons, but I'm not so sure the FAA will be super stoked about that.
@@andrewfidel2220 You left out TOL, FWA and SBN. TOL and FWA both have 10,000ft plus runways. Not sure how the weather was, but they flew past a number of more than suitable airports.
It may not have been quite correct, but ATC gave what they needed pretty much immediately. PAN-PAN is ICAO, declaring an emergency is FAA, but they both get attention.
I don't get why PAN even exists. You either have a problem or you don't. You either need special handling or assistance or you don't. And do pilots or controllers act differently with PAN vs MAYDAY? I don't think so.
@@major__kong There are some major differences between the two. PAN-PAN is an indication that there's a problem, but it's not an immediate threat to life; they don't need to get on the ground in the next 5-10 minutes, but they do have an issue that might need fire trucks or police or EMS (say they hit turbulence and have someone with a broken arm). Almost anything that could cause a diversion before the last hour of the flight is going to result in a PAN-PAN due to the potential for hot brakes from landing overweight as they haven't burned off all the fuel planned for the flight. Even if it's as simple as needing to remove an unruly passenger who's now calmed down, but scared the flight attendants badly enough that they'd feel the need to keep an eye on that passenger for the rest of the flight, compromising their ability to do their job efficiently... no immediate threat, but they don't want to be up there for another 2-3 hours having to be hypervigilant about one particular seat. MAYDAY indicates an immediate threat to the continued flight or lives of the passengers/crew onboard--a pressurization failure, severe turbulence with multiple injuries especially head/neck/spine, a heart attack, fumes in the cockpit creating a risk of pilots passing out, running at 50% or less of their normal engines, less than 30 minutes of fuel remaining, fires (especially in places not easily accessible in flight!), bomb threats... Those are "get us a runway cleared right NOW so we can get on the ground" incidents, and there have been occasions where a single controller has had 2-3 emergencies going on at once, some which would be PAN-PAN and some which would be MAYDAY, and the two-tier system allows them to prioritize. Do pilots act differently with PAN-PAN vs. MAYDAY? No, they try to make all landings as normal as possible, even in emergencies. Do controllers act differently, though? Yes, both calls get priority elevations, but even during that, a MAYDAY will take precedence due to the immediate threat to life. Most of the time, a PAN-PAN will land on whatever runway is in use at the time for other traffic, just skips any holds and might go direct to final approach fix; MAYDAY can call any runway that works for them and ATC will move mountains to make it happen even if that means stopping all departures and letting the MAYDAY flight land opposite direction. So yeah, there ARE some differences in how those are handled.
The difference in handling basically is that PAN says ATC is still in charge but the aircraft is going off script; mayday says the aircraft is in charge and might just decide to do stuff without asking. But really I think it’s more psychology. US pilots had nothing between totally normal and full-on emergency, so they often tried the “not declaring an emergency at this time”. With this middle step, maybe they can do like the Europeans do and just declare PAN rather than just acting like everything is fine.
It takes NTSB a month for a prelim report and you expected him to know exact reason while in flight?! Systems are interconnected, you'll have lots of warnings going off at once
If the airplane is standing still on the ground, and foam is sprayed, I'm unbuckling, re-conting the rows to the nearest exits, and getting ready for an evacuation -- no matter what the seat belt sign says.
The crew would appreciate it if you follow their instructions. Recounting the rows to the exit is certainly a good idea, but other than that, standby for further instructions. When people take their seatbelts off, the crowd response to the clicking noise makes more people think it’s okay to take theirs off too, which makes some people think it’s okay to escalate to standing up, which makes some people think it’s okay to start opening exits preemptively. At best, that means we can’t complete the evacuation checklist normally and the wing surfaces won’t be properly configured, resulting in a more aggressive drop onto the concrete than would be ideal. At worst, that results in people getting sucked into engines and run over by fire trucks.
Sounds like a maintenance issue. Not sure if the hydraulics are direct driven from engine or electric, but something popped. Max is too new for it to be wear and tear.
Why? They are perfectly safe now and a step forward in the 737 lineup when it comes to capabilities. You'd rather fly a 20 year old NG, Chines Comac or a Sukhoi? It's certainly getting long on the tooth but the grass isn't all that much greener on the other side
@@josh3771 You can fly on MAX rubbish as much as you want. i´ll stay away from any company that operates them. luckily here in Europe Airbus is widely used. I have nothing against Comac or other manufacturers since there is no evidence suggesting that they are either safe or dangerous machines. The MAX is flawed and that is a fact, like it or not.
Communications during the Approach trimmed as they were normal vectors and instructions to land. Thanks to the passenger for sharing!
Normal being over Lake Michigan -- with an engine out?
"They have given us snacks, which is never a good sign."
Snacks are bad apparently :(
lol
truly wise words
Kelsey would disagree!
Reminds me of when I was in a flight landing in SLC during a really heavy thunderstorm. Caused us to overshoot the runway and do a go around. I remember right as we started doing a pretty heavy bank to line back up in position, the flight attendant comes out and says "Alright, who wants fresh baked cookies?" and starts passing fresh and hot chocolate chip cookies to everyone rather hastily.
It was probably to help keep everyone's nerves down. But for someone like me that rather enjoys rough plane rides, it was just a bonus.
"They have gives us snacks, which is never a good sign."
Wise words
Was on a plane, after they'd delayed boarding, and then they started handing out snacks - one type at a time - by the third snack, I knew it wasn't good.
(Boarding delay due to plane malfunction, then weather blocked the rte - 4hr delay)
Px: They've given us snacks which is never a good sign.
Me: I love free snacks!
I've said this before, but I just want to thank the pilot(s) and ATC for their professionalism and commitment to help this aircraft. You could hear in the voice of Endeavor 5236 how concerned they were, and they were just vectoring out of the way.
Can I make a suggestion? Put a minute of nothing at the end of your videos. TH-cam puts up tiles and immediately launches into two unskippable ads at the end of your videos so if there is anything interesting right at the end we miss it.
Do you have that in every single video? That's curious. Thanks for the heads-up.
@@VASAviation That's in any channel, everywhere. A lot of big channels do that to avoid what this guy was complaining about.
You need to use ublock adblocker
EDIT: YES YES I'M AWARE IT DOESN'T BLOCK THE TILES
uBlock is the only thing needed
Or better than a minute of nothing, a 1 minute musical fade over a drone-shot landscape sequences
The system worked.
Well, we know one thing for sure and its that whoever that passanger is, their name is not Kelsey.
Maybe if he were finished with his flight hours for the month and trying to get home, and snacks were an indication of a long wait on the tarmac before getting to a gate? But yeah, can't really see him complaining about snacks--it's free food, after all, even if it's not breakfast. XD
Kelsey is great. I love 74gear.
Appreciate seeing more Center (ARTCC) content!
Happy US Thanksgiving to all celebrating, thanks VAS! Keep up the great content (from north of the border here in Canada)
I appreciate the professionalism of the pilot and ATC throughout the emergency.
The person who wrote in is super dramatic lol. Mad the captain didn’t tell them everything up front.
They'd prefer to be told 1/3 of the hydraulics on the airplane don't work and they might have to shut down the engine up front 😒
The last thing the crew wants in an emergency is to cause panic
more than likely hydraulic fluid got onto the engine and caught fire or started smoking. anytime foam is put on an engine it has to be removed and inspected.
You have a significant error in the transcription, and it was used in the thumbnail. At 1:32 they did not say "whole right side is INOP", they said the right side SYSTEM was inop. There's redundant hydro systems, they're reporting only a problem with System B driven by the starboard engine. Your misquote implies, to me at least, that all controls on the right side of the airplane are failed. That shouldn't happen because of redundancy but would be a much more severe situation.
yeah i was going to say system b controls trailing edge flaps and slats so losing landing with the t/e flaps deployed means the slower emdp was working just the loss of the edp from engine 2
emdp/ electric motor driven pump
edp/ engine driven pump
Thanks. I didn't hear "system" when transcribing. Of course I understood they were refering to the hyd system, as they had just literally reported hydraulic issues.
I would say free snacks = we think we won't need to evacuate, we'll just need to sit on our buts safely for a while. I reckon that is not a bad sign.
Oh no it sounds like they were given those in the Terminal while on standby having been deplaned at a gate. No way they’d be on the plane when its being towed into a maintenance terminal for the engine removal.
@@jyggalag169Yeah, goes from no captain to providing snacks, so def appears they are likely in the Term, next to a new plane (not likely to board w/out a captain, but possible)
The snack comment is so true. Whenever I hear "please head to the kiosk to pick up your free coffee or tea" at the train station on my way to work, I know my train is very late or cancelled.
Another fine video! Can't wait for blancolirio to feature this on his channel
Pilot : Hello, smooth up here.
B737 : Not for long
Isnt it nice to NOT hear for once about the souls on board and the fuel expressed in every metric possible...
37 walruses of fuel remaning, and no souls on board. we're all gingers up here.
Approx six thousand microfortnights of fuel remaining 😂
...you meant every measure EXCEPT metric, right? I mean, this did happen over the US...
Did the passenger expect a preliminary report from the pilots?!
Where did you get that indication?
The email seems to be a fact based retelling of what the pax saw and heard. It doesn't say "I wish" or "should".
Hey, if they're handing out snacks, I don't mind waiting around longer!
I hope they didn't take those snacks from Kelsey. Things could get ugly...
in 27/11/24 yesterday 737 in Canada had a flapless landing hence left main gear snapped off. Any update?
"in Canada"
Where?
Miribel
A 2ndry apt in Montreal
@@Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co Montréal-Mirabel International Airport (YMX/CYMX), QC
They had the left main gear jamb. Flaps up was to reduce damage.
@@davestfx8249 Mirabel.
As it's a Max 9 there will be a wide echo to the incident.
Plane had a stroke
Real
😂😂😂
Curse of SFO, even indirectly it will end up on VASAviation somehow
And the snacks are usually not that good either...
Snacks??? In Chicago??? Should have been all you can eat deep dish pizza.
A Chicago-Style Hot Dog and a Portillo's Chocolate Cake Shake would be more iconic.
Chicago Tavern Style > Deep Dish
@@kcw906 knows what he's on about. But if you don't want pizza you must grab a dipped italian beef from a reputable hole in the wall or at least stop at a Harold's Chicken to taste what KFC couldn't achieve.
what do you use for your radar scope
United + Boeing + SFO trifecta
Hope you didn't have to breathe the smoke from the synthetic hydraulic fluid.
Whole side out mean flaps and surfaces too?
Both systems run the most important things, so losing the right side system doesn't lose the whole side of the aircraft ... and there's still things like electric flaps extension (SLOW!) and manual gear extension.
No, each engine drives a generator for electricity and a hydraulic system to move the flight controls and raise the landing gear. When one engine is lost the aircraft operates in a degraded fashion. The may have lost nose wheel steering which is why the ATC controller ask if they had to stop on the runway as opposed to taxiing off the runway.
@@GarretPetersenit might also just be ORD being ORD - trying to sequence in a ridiculous load of flights
A significant error in the transcription at 1:34, they said they lost the right side SYSTEM, not the right side, which could be interpreted as all controls on one side of the aircraft, which should not happen.
They given us snacks, which is never a good sign. LOL :D
Free Snacks = Their too cheap to buy us a meal.
Kelsey loves free snacks. He'd be happy regardless...
0:53
“Centre United 1992”
“…”
“Centre United 1992 PAN PAN PAN”
“United 1992, go ahead”
😂
Not sure which is worse crashing or flying into O'Hare.
As far as getting an alternate aircraft or rebooked, when flying United, ORD is an excellent choice.
um the right side aka system b controls trailing edge flaps and slats so landing with the t/e flaps deployed means the slower emdp was working just the loss of the edp from engine 2 so i would say the right side was working
emdp/ electric motor driven pump
edp/ engine driven pump
Whole right side??? I call BS.. Engine 2 is "B" system hydraulic system. Primary flight controls surfaces alternate A-B. Also you have standby and electric systems.
Definitely a system failure, but other safety back ups worked as advertised
Right side system, "system" can be heard but wasn't transcribed.
Also he said he "bypassed Oil Filter" and would try to restart the engine. The spraying of the foam on the engine smoke was probably related.
Call BS? Were you inside the cockpit? You can notice the crew is dealing with the situation, they are just giving a bit of info to ATC, not the whole story, they are not going to tell every detail of the situation. A leak can mean you lose all SYS B.
Everytime I hear "hydraulics issue" I fear the worst, because most of the worst disasters in aviation have been related to hydraulics, like the well known Alaska 261 or Japan 123. Thanks god it wasnt that serious this time.
Wasnt the United flight that crashed in Sioux City hydraulics issue also ?
Alaska 261 wasn't a hydraulic issue, check out the ntsb report or the wiki (was stab jack screw failure from poor MX). 737's can fly with zero hydraulic pressure unlike most modern or heavier transport category aircraft, we've got old school cables. Its a bitch to hand fly that way but still gives me comfort that you can lose everything but as long as your VFR you'll be fine lol
Japan 123 was a vertical stabilizer issue…where do hydraulics fit in?
None of those were hydraulic issues…well maybe 232, but that was secondary.
Today?
November 16th, 2024.
How does a flight declare an emergency between Pittsburgh and Cleveland, and then fly all the way to Chicago? They flew past multiple airports after shutting down an engine?
Old school aviation: "We have an emergency! We're on fire! Wings have fallen off! Tell my wife I love h- (static)"
Modern aviation: "We have an emergency. We're running some checklists. Talking to company. Might be a few minutes late touching down. Maybe roll the trucks just in case."
I had the exact same thought, CAK, CLE, DTW, IND, heck even if the checks took a while MDW would have been in path (though a transcon might have legit been too heavy for MDW). They definitely went to ORD for operational reasons, but I'm not so sure the FAA will be super stoked about that.
@@andrewfidel2220 You left out TOL, FWA and SBN. TOL and FWA both have 10,000ft plus runways. Not sure how the weather was, but they flew past a number of more than suitable airports.
Hé, hé, hé, ZOB-49.
Bet there's still going to be armchair pilots saying the crew didn't declare an emergency fast enough or correctly
It may not have been quite correct, but ATC gave what they needed pretty much immediately. PAN-PAN is ICAO, declaring an emergency is FAA, but they both get attention.
I don't get why PAN even exists. You either have a problem or you don't. You either need special handling or assistance or you don't. And do pilots or controllers act differently with PAN vs MAYDAY? I don't think so.
@@major__kong There are some major differences between the two.
PAN-PAN is an indication that there's a problem, but it's not an immediate threat to life; they don't need to get on the ground in the next 5-10 minutes, but they do have an issue that might need fire trucks or police or EMS (say they hit turbulence and have someone with a broken arm). Almost anything that could cause a diversion before the last hour of the flight is going to result in a PAN-PAN due to the potential for hot brakes from landing overweight as they haven't burned off all the fuel planned for the flight. Even if it's as simple as needing to remove an unruly passenger who's now calmed down, but scared the flight attendants badly enough that they'd feel the need to keep an eye on that passenger for the rest of the flight, compromising their ability to do their job efficiently... no immediate threat, but they don't want to be up there for another 2-3 hours having to be hypervigilant about one particular seat.
MAYDAY indicates an immediate threat to the continued flight or lives of the passengers/crew onboard--a pressurization failure, severe turbulence with multiple injuries especially head/neck/spine, a heart attack, fumes in the cockpit creating a risk of pilots passing out, running at 50% or less of their normal engines, less than 30 minutes of fuel remaining, fires (especially in places not easily accessible in flight!), bomb threats... Those are "get us a runway cleared right NOW so we can get on the ground" incidents, and there have been occasions where a single controller has had 2-3 emergencies going on at once, some which would be PAN-PAN and some which would be MAYDAY, and the two-tier system allows them to prioritize.
Do pilots act differently with PAN-PAN vs. MAYDAY? No, they try to make all landings as normal as possible, even in emergencies.
Do controllers act differently, though? Yes, both calls get priority elevations, but even during that, a MAYDAY will take precedence due to the immediate threat to life. Most of the time, a PAN-PAN will land on whatever runway is in use at the time for other traffic, just skips any holds and might go direct to final approach fix; MAYDAY can call any runway that works for them and ATC will move mountains to make it happen even if that means stopping all departures and letting the MAYDAY flight land opposite direction. So yeah, there ARE some differences in how those are handled.
The difference in handling basically is that PAN says ATC is still in charge but the aircraft is going off script; mayday says the aircraft is in charge and might just decide to do stuff without asking.
But really I think it’s more psychology. US pilots had nothing between totally normal and full-on emergency, so they often tried the “not declaring an emergency at this time”. With this middle step, maybe they can do like the Europeans do and just declare PAN rather than just acting like everything is fine.
Je suis 'en panne' = I have a malfunction.
M'aidez = I am in dire need of assistance.
Wonder what was the reason for the revisions in the story.
The pilots are 50 feet in front of the engines and can’t see them so they are going off of what ground personnel are telling them.
"Self Loading Cargo management." - Keep the passengers informed and calm.
It takes NTSB a month for a prelim report and you expected him to know exact reason while in flight?! Systems are interconnected, you'll have lots of warnings going off at once
If the airplane is standing still on the ground, and foam is sprayed, I'm unbuckling, re-conting the rows to the nearest exits, and getting ready for an evacuation -- no matter what the seat belt sign says.
The crew would appreciate it if you follow their instructions. Recounting the rows to the exit is certainly a good idea, but other than that, standby for further instructions. When people take their seatbelts off, the crowd response to the clicking noise makes more people think it’s okay to take theirs off too, which makes some people think it’s okay to escalate to standing up, which makes some people think it’s okay to start opening exits preemptively. At best, that means we can’t complete the evacuation checklist normally and the wing surfaces won’t be properly configured, resulting in a more aggressive drop onto the concrete than would be ideal. At worst, that results in people getting sucked into engines and run over by fire trucks.
Sounds like a maintenance issue. Not sure if the hydraulics are direct driven from engine or electric, but something popped. Max is too new for it to be wear and tear.
Just a Max being a Max.
The engines are not built by Boeing! Geeze...
@@timduggan1461the hydraulics are made by Boeing! Geeze...
New Boeing planes continue to keep with tradition.
If it's Boeing, I'm not going! 😃
This will be in the news and it needs to be!
Something like this sounds like the outsourced maintenance company is to blame. I’m no Boeing fan but let’s put the fault where it lies.
An engine issue. And related components. None are built by Boeing. Do some research.
@ im well aware. Its still Boeing’s name on the plane.
Oh, how was an engine removed on a runway???????? I despise social media UTub for mis information!
What's up with United Lately? Happy Thanksgiving
DEI airplane in service 😂
The Max 9 strikes again!
Those airplanes have proven to be real $&@#boxes.
@@jcraigsheltonThe engines are not built by Boeing! Maybe more aviation knowledge would help?
@@timduggan1461 Neither was the fuselage or door plug on that Alaska 737.
No Max for me!!
Another 737 MAX 9 issue...
If it's a Bloeing, I'm not going. I'd rather sit on my Airbutz and read the paper.
Boeing max quality control…
The engines are not built by Boeing! Learn more about aviation before commenting.
@@timduggan1461its probably a geared fan engine that crapped out, not a great design.
737MAX again ? 😅
Another Boeing Max DEI incident.
Those 73 Max’s need an Exorcist...
Dont think the Vatican can make enough holy water for this.....
Boing board of directors leaking oil again, dammed bean counters, sorry, salted peanut counters! :)
How don't they have a captain? lol
It is for the replacement plane. They have to call a guy from the reserve list to fly, but that usually takes some time for the new pilot to show up.
working hour limitations
@@markus1351 ahhh makes sense
@@admiral_franz_von_hipper5436 ok
He called in fatigued.
Other 737..!! 🤦🏽♂️
Boeing Max?
Il drive thanks
When someone hits you, you’ll regret saying that
Max = death traps
But did they die?
@hbtried7818 luck no but some no so lucky. RIP
Absolutely sick of the 737 drama. I know this could be a carrier/contractor maintenance issue but Boeing has to stop the bleeding.
So, you're saying that you're MAX'ed out on the Bloeing drama ? Ain't that a swift kick in the Airbutz.
@stanpatterson5033 Airbutz sucks!
I guess they should build better engines oh wait they don’t build engines
Not again Max!
Not another max not another united
Something wrong with a -9 MAX. Interesting. How unusual. /s
B MAX crash. These things should be banned from service.
Why? They are perfectly safe now and a step forward in the 737 lineup when it comes to capabilities. You'd rather fly a 20 year old NG, Chines Comac or a Sukhoi? It's certainly getting long on the tooth but the grass isn't all that much greener on the other side
@@josh3771 You can fly on MAX rubbish as much as you want. i´ll stay away from any company that operates them. luckily here in Europe Airbus is widely used. I have nothing against Comac or other manufacturers since there is no evidence suggesting that they are either safe or dangerous machines. The MAX is flawed and that is a fact, like it or not.
Isnt it strange that its always Boeing and United that have this kind of problems. I will fly Airbus and NOT United.
Their new slogan should be fly the f’ked up sky’s with united
It rhymes!!