Amazing to think this whole system including all the music would now fit on a circuit board the size of a credit card. Would love to own a proper old jukebox like this, one day!
@@LyonsArcade I was hoping for a few more details - did it lock out the other devices while someone was choosing their records? How does it remember all the songs that have been chosen and in what order? These probably were long before the Rockola - my guess is pins were set when a record was chosen which caused the carousel to stop.. Royalties for BMI and ASCAP and ratings would be an important part of the operation - not just for the operator to get more quarters. I don’t know a lot of the details and would like to keep my kneecaps
They had optical then? I remember the magnetic pickup and light beam would be used to see a bill in the accepter.. optical came out from mars and coinco about 1989.. I worked on a lot of soda and candy machines during that time.
Been a huge Billy Joel fan since the 80s...and I'd never even heard of House Of Blue Light! Thanks for another great video Ron, once again I've learned something. Love from the UK.
I freaking LOVE your jukebox videos. The mechanics behind these things is nothing short of amazing. Every time I see one of these from the early to mid-80s it makes me think of the dark arcade room at Kate's Skating Ring, where I used to put in my quarters to play KISS and other 80's rock bands, and play the KISS Pinball machine with the smell of pizza looming in the air. Thanks for the jukebox videos man. The new ones are just glorified MP# players now. Although I do like being able to pick songs to play using an app on my phone when I am having breakfast, or a very late dinner at the Waffle House near my house. See ya - Brant
I have a 488 rockola but it has NO power at the selection buttons . Everything else seens fine but no power to the keyboard. Would you have a thought on this ?
Remember them in the 70's in the bars they would play between sets of any band or were whenever there was no band. Pretty cool looking and sound was good for the day home stereo equipment was really expensive for good sound back then. The one in the Hotel my family ran was in the bar remember the guy installing new records one of them was Wreck of the EF. As an aside same guy serviced the pinball machines in the dining area where us kids could go. Remember a Royal Flush and Surf Champ... I think. Pinball was big in 1977.
I have a 1977 Wurlitzer Niagra. I like to play old 45's on it. When we walk past it in the hall, we drop our quarters in the slot. I just can't get it off free play.
I haven't messed with the freeplay on those much, some have a little plug you can put in to make it freeplay and on some people bend a switch so it's always on freeplay... Not sure how that one's modified...
They were sold to operators, i'm not sure what the price was but likely $3-$4000 or so.... they didn't come with records, the operator would swap the records out often in them to put new songs in that had just came out.....
Ron, i've been ask to look at a 477, and i feel quite confident in having a go due to watching your repair videos. I know the mech is jammed so i'm going to strip that down first before i turn it on. Just a bit worried about the electronics. I normally mess with Pinballs and Bally ome armed bandits
They're all pretty similar, the main issue will be that mech being gummed up... Then you have the power supply, they're similar to the pinball power supplies just make sure you have your voltages and if you don't fix that area... Then you have the Profit Setter, if that has issues you may have a problem! It's about 50/50, I haven't done too much work trying to repair one but the issue is they use strange chips that use a strange voltage (9.6 volts?) so when they die it's hard to diagnose.
I literally just wipe them down with windex! They make special cleaner for them though but man they're plastic, you can't really damage them with a mild cleaner like windex which is basically soapy water with a little ammonia in it. Be careful with the paper labels though it'll stain those of course. If they're completely filthy maybe something stronger like 409.
A lot of them had different designs, some lit up and some didn't it kind of depended on the model and how the inside was laid out... .some had their own light bulb behind the key pad and some just had a clear space behind it to grab the ambient light from inside....
JOES CLASSIC, can you go over the schematics for the Profit Setter, Hit Tracker, Rock Ola Amplifier just to go over the theory of operation in general to get familiar with how they work. I'm not sure why the designers choose 9.6vdc as the standard because that is very unusual to design a circuit around 9.6vdc
For those of you that would like to know more detailed description of at least part of the operation of a jukebox regarding actual playback and record handling if I remember correctly technology connections has a video on this subject
Pizza Hut Vibes ... and then our pizza hut got it upgraded to something similar but I think it played CDs, with 4 digit codes. No idea if the same brand of jukebox or not.
You should include a "land mine" inside the player... By that...I mean a recording that no one in their right mind would even come close to consider touching...
To think that in 1982 first-generation compact discs were making their way to record stores! The record industry is pretty much dead. It took less than 10 years of mp3 and the industry not adapting to reality and changing its ways (lousy, overpriced albums; arguably obsolete format/CD that NEEDED to be replaced; generally bad new content being released) to wipe out what USED TO BE the largest entertainment sector. Most stores don't sell albums anymore. You have to buy soundtracks online. A lot of stuff is out of print and ridiculously overpriced. That's NOT a healthy industry. Comic books are headed this way, too!
Amazing to think this whole system including all the music would now fit on a circuit board the size of a credit card. Would love to own a proper old jukebox like this, one day!
I look forward to all of your videos. Thanks for the content Ron, keep it up.
Thank you James we appreciate you watching!
I love jukebox repair videos. I hope you do more of them.
Thank you Bill we will keep doing them!
1:00am, just got home from work. Time to unwind with another Joe's Classic video!
Thank you Gregory you're awesome man
In diners, they had a remote in each booth to choose the songs to play. How were they connected to the actual jukebox?
Long wires!
@@LyonsArcade I was hoping for a few more details - did it lock out the other devices while someone was choosing their records? How does it remember all the songs that have been chosen and in what order? These probably were long before the Rockola - my guess is pins were set when a record was chosen which caused the carousel to stop..
Royalties for BMI and ASCAP and ratings would be an important part of the operation - not just for the operator to get more quarters. I don’t know a lot of the details and would like to keep my kneecaps
When you get one of those tray load optical bill acceptors working just right. thats a moire
Those things were so cool....
@@LyonsArcade we had these laminated test dollars to work on those so we didn't need real dollars, I'll bet the testers cost $5 each
They had optical then? I remember the magnetic pickup and light beam would be used to see a bill in the accepter.. optical came out from mars and coinco about 1989.. I worked on a lot of soda and candy machines during that time.
@@Astinsan it had a bulb with a filter that would slide across the bill and generate a moire pattern if the dollar was real
Jesse I’m LMAO at your comment. I think it went right over the other folks’ heads.
Always thought those mechanisms were just fricken cool.
Just a cool design!
Not only cool, but just plain works.
That machine is beautiful!
Really cool design for sure!
I love Jukeboxes. Still got my Seeburg VL200 in working condition…
Nice machine!
Been a huge Billy Joel fan since the 80s...and I'd never even heard of House Of Blue Light! Thanks for another great video Ron, once again I've learned something. Love from the UK.
Billy Joel has made so much great music you can't even hear it all, lol
I’ve got a 494 with the slide tray bill acceptor. Surprisingly it still works.
I freaking LOVE your jukebox videos. The mechanics behind these things is nothing short of amazing. Every time I see one of these from the early to mid-80s it makes me think of the dark arcade room at Kate's Skating Ring, where I used to put in my quarters to play KISS and other 80's rock bands, and play the KISS Pinball machine with the smell of pizza looming in the air. Thanks for the jukebox videos man. The new ones are just glorified MP# players now. Although I do like being able to pick songs to play using an app on my phone when I am having breakfast, or a very late dinner at the Waffle House near my house. See ya - Brant
I have a 488 rockola but it has NO power at the selection buttons . Everything else seens fine but no power to the keyboard. Would you have a thought on this ?
Remember them in the 70's in the bars they would play between sets of any band or were whenever there was no band. Pretty cool looking and sound was good for the day home stereo equipment was really expensive for good sound back then. The one in the Hotel my family ran was in the bar remember the guy installing new records one of them was Wreck of the EF. As an aside same guy serviced the pinball machines in the dining area where us kids could go. Remember a Royal Flush and Surf Champ... I think. Pinball was big in 1977.
Nice looking juke Box
This is Amazing!
Thank you Moises, glad you enjoyed it!
Let's go Brandon people!!!!🤣😂
I have a 1977 Wurlitzer Niagra. I like to play old 45's on it. When we walk past it in the hall, we drop our quarters in the slot. I just can't get it off free play.
I haven't messed with the freeplay on those much, some have a little plug you can put in to make it freeplay and on some people bend a switch so it's always on freeplay... Not sure how that one's modified...
The 45RPM Rock Ola Jukeboxes actually made a Comeback in 2020!!
Ron-How much were these new? Did they come with the records or did you have to supply your own records?
They were sold to operators, i'm not sure what the price was but likely $3-$4000 or so.... they didn't come with records, the operator would swap the records out often in them to put new songs in that had just came out.....
Ron, i've been ask to look at a 477, and i feel quite confident in having a go due to watching your repair videos. I know the mech is jammed so i'm going to strip that down first before i turn it on. Just a bit worried about the electronics. I normally mess with Pinballs and Bally ome armed bandits
They're all pretty similar, the main issue will be that mech being gummed up...
Then you have the power supply, they're similar to the pinball power supplies just make sure you have your voltages and if you don't fix that area...
Then you have the Profit Setter, if that has issues you may have a problem! It's about 50/50, I haven't done too much work trying to repair one but the issue is they use strange chips that use a strange voltage (9.6 volts?) so when they die it's hard to diagnose.
That is slick looking.
I like it ,but mine won't pick up record unless I turn off the back on again.Any help 👍
👏👏👏 ‼️®™️ this is gold, as you are sir❗️
Wow what a beauti. love watching your videos joe so much cool stuff keep up the good work 👍
Thank you Simon i'm glad you enjoyed it!
Greetings from Brazil!
Hello William!
How would you best recommend how to clean 45s that have been sitting in the 488 since 1991?
I literally just wipe them down with windex! They make special cleaner for them though but man they're plastic, you can't really damage them with a mild cleaner like windex which is basically soapy water with a little ammonia in it. Be careful with the paper labels though it'll stain those of course. If they're completely filthy maybe something stronger like 409.
@@LyonsArcade ok, thanks for the honest advice!
How do you stop the humming in the speakers of a Rock Ola 488
If I ever buy a jukebox, I want it set up for 1 selection for a nickel, 2 for a dime, and 6 for a quarter, like the one we had in middle school.
Was there a Jukebox that had a Linear Tracking Mechanism that meant that played the singles the way they were cut on the mastering lathe.
Not that I’m aware of
@@LyonsArcade Had to re-edit as there was a problem with the comment.
None of my 200 records aren't working. The 2 button works, it's just not playing the 2nd side of my records. Any suggestions?
joe i thought the key pad lit up so you could see them in the dark or is that a different model?
A lot of them had different designs, some lit up and some didn't it kind of depended on the model and how the inside was laid out... .some had their own light bulb behind the key pad and some just had a clear space behind it to grab the ambient light from inside....
Blimey ! I remember these......cheers.
JOES CLASSIC, can you go over the schematics for the Profit Setter, Hit Tracker, Rock Ola Amplifier just to go over the theory of operation in general to get familiar with how they work. I'm not sure why the designers choose 9.6vdc as the standard because that is very unusual to design a circuit around 9.6vdc
Cool
Vaneer, the word you were looking for was vaneer 😂😂
That's the one :)
For those of you that would like to know more detailed description of at least part of the operation of a jukebox regarding actual playback and record handling if I remember correctly technology connections has a video on this subject
Pizza Hut Vibes ... and then our pizza hut got it upgraded to something similar but I think it played CDs, with 4 digit codes. No idea if the same brand of jukebox or not.
You should include a "land mine" inside the player... By that...I mean a recording that no one in their right mind would even come close to consider touching...
haha we probably accidentally did :)
The Tempest of jukes. Haha
Pretty much! Interesting design choices here....
I you get a chance in a video show the bonus light up.
What are you gonna play? It's either gotta be Pac Man Fever or Alabama Wild Man…
How much does this sell for?
Yodelayheehoo
Hello Lil Everette!
No bulb on the right of my 488.
To think that in 1982 first-generation compact discs were making their way to record stores!
The record industry is pretty much dead. It took less than 10 years of mp3 and the industry not adapting to reality and changing its ways (lousy, overpriced albums; arguably obsolete format/CD that NEEDED to be replaced; generally bad new content being released) to wipe out what USED TO BE the largest entertainment sector.
Most stores don't sell albums anymore. You have to buy soundtracks online. A lot of stuff is out of print and ridiculously overpriced.
That's NOT a healthy industry. Comic books are headed this way, too!
That Jukebox looks like they copied the art style from a 1978 Seeburg Disco.
They probably did, lol
Are you a Trump guy?
I can't say if I am or I'm not, we try to stay non political if we can help it so we don't piss off half the audience :)
@@LyonsArcade Good advice.
This thing just screams synthesizer. I love this futuristic design
Yeah they really did a good job for the time, I think!