I played trumpet in my high school band (2nd chair at the end of 8 years), and not once was there any discussion about using tuning slides. A more innocent age?
Thanks a lot Bobby, that was really helpful to me. I’m new to the trumpet and trying develop how I hold it and to set up and use that third valve slide on my brand new Jupiter (without a mentor because of Covid-19 😕). No one else has said how you “kick” that slide out with your _second_ finger and pull it back with the third finger, right? Best wishes, Peter
Thank you! Great energy and humor to make "intonation," a beginning level (or any level) concept! I came from a woodwind mind-set (clarinet) and now trying my chops on the wind trumpet. So far, I had been avoiding the tuning slides, and you can imagine the sound was not good, and my frustration! I more or less figured out that the slides had something to do with the muffled sound I was getting, and the tendency to crack the note before getting that crisp, clean, note I was looking for. What kind of tuner do you recommend for a beginner? You are awesome!!
What to do if my vintage windsor trumpet doesnt have the slides. I see the screw for the first one. That one can be attached and screwed if i buy it. But the other one doesnt have a anything to attache a slide pinky ring valve
Very informative and helpful video. Thank you! Started experimenting with the 3rd valve slide on my Burbank Benge and found compression keeps making the 3rd valve dump slide pop out. Any suggestions? Maybe I should change the type of lubrication on the slide? Thanks!
All brass Instruments always play the correct tone, by physics. The villain is 12 Tone Equal Temperament and that musicians like eating and living indoors.
It makes sense to use the tuning slides only after you have the muscle memory to nail a note on its center, which is not an easy task on the trumpet. Otherwise you're not gonna get a good sound, regardless of intonation. Short answer is, for a beginner it doesn't matter (especially the first slide. The notes that are the most out of tune are obtained using the third valve)
Thanks for the video! But you have to make another one regarding tuning. How about the A or Bb in the staff? Don't u kick out the first slide for them as well?
Would it be a bad thing if you already learned the d and c# with the 1st valve slide because that's what I've been doing and no one really comments on the intonation of those notes.
You can probably get away with it with low D, but there's no way you're getting low C# in tune with the 1st valve slide alone as there isn't enough slide travel. You may be able to use a combination of 1st and 3rd valve slides, but it's difficult to kick both slides out at once into a consistent spot every time, especially in the middle of a quick passage. The 1st valve slide is usually reserved for notes such as E and A using the 1-2 fingering that tend to ride a bit sharp...but I would first start with integrating the 3rd valve slide into your playing.
@@miurtouissi1093 notes obtained with the first valve aren't so out of tune that they require that type of correction, unless, of course, you're a professional striving for perfection You can easily correct them with your tongue, or not correct them at all
Fs aren't generally out of tune unless something is going on. Es (and As) played with the 1-2 fingering tend to be bit sharp and can be tweaked using the 1st valve slide.
Some notes you can, but the low D and especially low C# are so sharp that it's not worth it. At best you might get close when playing long tones, but it won't be feasible when playing quick passages as you'll end up "lipping" the surrounding notes flat. At worst, you'll develop ingrained embochure issues that will make it impossible to get a good tone and play in tune. It's easier to just use the slides - that's what they're there for.
This is the second video that I like as soon as I see the Tuna. But the video about the slides is also amazing
I played trumpet in my high school band (2nd chair at the end of 8 years), and not once was there any discussion about using tuning slides. A more innocent age?
I played in the 70s and early 80s. It was taught to me when I started in '71.
Probably had a woodwind playing teacher
I’ve been playing for around 5 years, and I still never heard about the use.
U r the only one who cleared my confusion on these slides. Thanx a lot
Thought of this recently and your video was suggested. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the information about using both slides. Just started playing again, after three years absence.
4:00 why did he just flex on all of us like that
Very entertaining AND educational
Thanks a lot Bobby, that was really helpful to me. I’m new to the trumpet and trying develop how I hold it and to set up and use that third valve slide on my brand new Jupiter (without a mentor because of Covid-19 😕). No one else has said how you “kick” that slide out with your _second_ finger and pull it back with the third finger, right? Best wishes, Peter
great video, thanks
Thank you! Great energy and humor to make "intonation," a beginning level (or any level) concept! I came from a woodwind mind-set (clarinet) and now trying my chops on the wind trumpet. So far, I had been avoiding the tuning slides, and you can imagine the sound was not good, and my frustration! I more or less figured out that the slides had something to do with the muffled sound I was getting, and the tendency to crack the note before getting that crisp, clean, note I was looking for. What kind of tuner do you recommend for a beginner? You are awesome!!
its a tuna bro hahah thanks man pretty cool tutorial
What to do if my vintage windsor trumpet doesnt have the slides. I see the screw for the first one. That one can be attached and screwed if i buy it. But the other one doesnt have a anything to attache a slide pinky ring valve
Do you use a different grease for the 1st and 3rd valve slides?
I played cornet/trumpet all during high school and no one taught me about those slides.
great lesson thankyou
Very informative and helpful video. Thank you! Started experimenting with the 3rd valve slide on my Burbank Benge and found compression keeps making the 3rd valve dump slide pop out. Any suggestions? Maybe I should change the type of lubrication on the slide? Thanks!
what if i got no first valve slide
Love the vid
Hello, what tuner app are you using? Thanks.
All brass Instruments always play the correct tone, by physics. The villain is 12 Tone Equal Temperament and that musicians like eating and living indoors.
How hard would be to learn on a trumpet with no 1st tunning slide?
It makes sense to use the tuning slides only after you have the muscle memory to nail a note on its center, which is not an easy task on the trumpet. Otherwise you're not gonna get a good sound, regardless of intonation.
Short answer is, for a beginner it doesn't matter (especially the first slide. The notes that are the most out of tune are obtained using the third valve)
It's perfectly doable. A few notes (Es and As using the 1-2 fingering) will be slightly sharp but won't be very noticeable to most.
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Thanks for the video! But you have to make another one regarding tuning. How about the A or Bb in the staff? Don't u kick out the first slide for them as well?
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You might need the first valve slide for the A above the staff, but you shouldn’t need it for A or Bb in the staff.
@@RidgewoodSchoolofMusic yes you need it for A in the staff. But I only would do it for sustained A.
I see you've changed mouthpiece. What model is this?
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Would it be a bad thing if you already learned the d and c# with the 1st valve slide because that's what I've been doing and no one really comments on the intonation of those notes.
You can probably get away with it with low D, but there's no way you're getting low C# in tune with the 1st valve slide alone as there isn't enough slide travel. You may be able to use a combination of 1st and 3rd valve slides, but it's difficult to kick both slides out at once into a consistent spot every time, especially in the middle of a quick passage.
The 1st valve slide is usually reserved for notes such as E and A using the 1-2 fingering that tend to ride a bit sharp...but I would first start with integrating the 3rd valve slide into your playing.
What's the name of the app on phone
New to the trumpet, if there is no first valve slide, what should I do/know? Thanks for your video!
Good question ❓
Don’t worry about it. Third valve slide is worth learning but first valve I wouldn’t move it unless they paid me to play trumpet.
@@anarchyseeds4406 why?
@@miurtouissi1093 notes obtained with the first valve aren't so out of tune that they require that type of correction, unless, of course, you're a professional striving for perfection
You can easily correct them with your tongue, or not correct them at all
@@miurtouissi1093its very minute difference
But the middle F and E are also very sharp.
Fs aren't generally out of tune unless something is going on. Es (and As) played with the 1-2 fingering tend to be bit sharp and can be tweaked using the 1st valve slide.
Can't you lip them into key?
Some notes you can, but the low D and especially low C# are so sharp that it's not worth it. At best you might get close when playing long tones, but it won't be feasible when playing quick passages as you'll end up "lipping" the surrounding notes flat. At worst, you'll develop ingrained embochure issues that will make it impossible to get a good tone and play in tune. It's easier to just use the slides - that's what they're there for.
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Why so fast ? Slow down
Love the video, but why’re you so sweaty bro😂😂
You look like Seth Rogan a bit in this video.
legit
You wasted our time with the cat but it was the right thing to do - more cat !! ^_^
Since with did skinny Seth Rogan start playing trumpet
Trumpet? Mouthpiece?
Poor cat 🐈
Better to get a prop !!
Just saying 🤷♂️
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Put. The. Cat. Down.
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