Plane's Emergency Landing in Hudson River | Sully
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- The Sully video is based on an actual airline pilot crash into the Hudson in 2009 commonly referred to as "Miracle on the Hudson," starring Tom Hanks as Sully. I review Sully movie clips and from the sully movie explaining aspects that may not be obvious to someone who isn’t an airline pilot. Enjoy!
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Sully. Distributed by: Warner Bros. Pictures Sept 6, 2016
All clips used for fair use commentary, criticism, and educational purposes. See Hosseinzadeh v. Klein, 276 F.Supp.3d 34 (S.D.N.Y. 2017); Equals Three, LLC v. Jukin Media, Inc., 139 F. Supp. 3d 1094 (C.D. Cal. 2015).
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Too many misconceptions and misrepresentations in the Comments section to reply to individually but I would like to say that both Sully and I had the opportunity to edit the script at the beginning of the production. It originally had a lot of the common movie script aircraft inaccuracies but Clint Eastwood wanted a film that was as close to reality as possible so he adopted our recommendations. The cockpit scenes in the movie weren't as dramatic as they could have been but neither Sully nor I acted as a consultant on the set. The various background warning commands are about 4 times the volume represented in the movie and we had no time to look pensive, there was simply too much going on. I particularly appreciate the reviewer 74 Gear giving the flight attendants credit for their role. Our flight attendants didn't get anywhere near the credit the deserve for their incredible contributions that day. Jeff Skiles
From what I can gather from various sources online, the NTSB was portrayed more aggressively in the movie than they actually behaved. Would you concur with this assessment?
I agree that the flight attendants did not receive the full credit that they deserve, but neither did you. The entire flight crew were heroes that day.
Jeff, It's an honor to read your comment -- I just want to say that you, Sully, the flight attendants, ATC and I'm sure helpful passengers, all under the most adverse circumstances, showed the world what the term "our finest hour" really means. Incredible. I met an Apollo 13 Astronaut once (Jack Swigert), from where I sit, you guys are right up there standing proud with them.
@@scottl5000 Hi Scott, thank you for the kind words. you are very thoughtful. I have had the privilege of meeting virtually all of the surviving Apollo astronauts and spent a bit of time with several of them. We're hardly in that class, after all they went to the moon, we only went to New York!
@@Eternal_Tech That is very true. The NTSB got a bad rap in the movie. They were very respectful of us in the investigation and didn't deserve the treatment they received. Movies are very formulaic. You must have a black hat and a white hat. Nuance is too difficult to portray. Having said that, everything I saw in the movie happened, everything that was asked or said was true to the facts. If you take the rudeness and insulting tone out of the NTSB actors delivery, it was pretty true to the actual events.
There are many people involved in an NTSB investigation other than the NTSB itself. The NTSB sets up the structure of an investigation and then invites interested parties such as Airbus, GE, USAirways, etc., to participate. Those interested parties help to find the truth but also have their own corporate interests to defend. There's a lot of grey area and casting blame elsewhere can be part of the investigation. Pilots are an obvious target. I liken the whole thing to a situation where you are on trial for a crime. But, you aren't allowed in the courtroom to attend your own trial. It is conducted in secret, the verdict is rendered, and you are sentenced, all without you ever getting your day in court to explain yourself. There is no question it is a stressful situation for those of us involved. That's not a criticism of the NTSB, they do valuable work and have a noble purpose. Its just the way it is.
@@jeffskiles7406 , Thanks for your reply, it's an honor. Naturally, you couldn't have been a pilot on Apollo 13, but if you could, I'm sure you'd make us proud too. It's the person inside that counts. So you, and your team can stand up there with the best of the best for that reason. Oh one interesting thing, in 2013, while recovering from a brain tumor (I'm fine now) I had lot's of time on my hands... I wrote an iPad application demo for a friend, it was intended for pilots to use in the cockpit during an emergency. It's an expert system to guide pilots through highly complex EAP (Emergency Action Procedures) on the Dassault Falcon series of private jets. Complete with layouts of the dashboards, procedures, instruments, warnings etc etc... I digitized the super thick book, and turned it into an interactive system. Of course you can also just view the original manual, quick references, with fast lookup index and natual language queries. It even would send procedure adherence and status information automatically, and it could interact with ground support live. I do not know if it was demo'ed or not. But personally I think it was pretty cool. When I saw your movie, I thought of you specifically, wondering if my electronic system would be as useful as the quick references you had available. Anyway, thanks again for your response. (btw: one of my closest friends is now a retired airline pilot, living in Hawaii. I'm just sleepless in seattle, litterally, it's 3:20am). Scott
Sully: nice view of the hudson
Birds: do you want a closer look?
Lol savage!!!!
Maybe the best example ever of unintended irony
hold my bowl of birdfeed.
@@harryw9598 God I love that 😂😂
Poor birds
"Is he a hero or just doing his job?" Both, sometimes the most heroic thing you can do is doing your job well.
He'll yeah he both
Can’t be a hero if you’re trying to save your own life too!
He did his job very well, above and beyond, which qualifies as Hero💯✔
I've heard Flight Data Recording where pilots lost their minds(paniced), the aircraft, passengers, and crew.
I think it should be based on what a reasonable outcome would have been, and history tells us that most cases result in disaster particularly when combined with a water landing. When the bird strike occurred at least some of those people were already dead, Sully and the F/O wrestled them back, I think he deserves the hero status.
Being a pilot requires you to be a hero at times
"One way of looking at this might be that for 42 years, I've been making small, regular deposits in this bank of experience, education and training. And on January 15, the balance was sufficient so that I could make a very large withdrawal." - Sully
Absolutely a hero.
The people on that plane where just really lucky that the pilot had that Apollo 13 experience.
@@geobloxmodels1186 He was not worried about water landing because while being a ship captain attaked by somalian pirates, he knew that the airplane was a ship too, and it would take like a duck to the water and there were no somalian pirates on the Hudson river.
Your comment was the first one I saw when I clicked on the thumbnail...made me chuckle...good one... Happy New Year
Yes, and he was also prepared for anything...because his mother always told him that life was like a box of chocolates and that you never know what you're going to get.
Well when u got Gump as ur pilot, he will save each one of u.
And was seasoned by having Somali pirates boarding his ship. Not to mention being stranded on an island with a volleyball for a friend.
Had an instructor once tell me when it comes to declaring emergencies, even if it turns out to not be one, “Better to have twelve men judge you for your actions than six men carrying you.”
If you feel that the flight is in danger, it IS an emergency. I've seen videos where it clearly was an emergency and the pilot refused to declare it. That is just stupid.
More pilots die of stupidity than any other cause.
Was your instructor a gun guy by any chance?
My instructor told me : "If you lose your engine, the mayday is super unimportant. You should use this time to concentrate on flying the plane and choosing the right field to put it down. Of course, if you are near an airport and you might make the runway, things are very different.
“Better have twelve me judge you for your actions than six men carrying” I’ll remember that
The saying goes, "Better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6".
I was one of three men that provided the emergency communication radios for this event. God bless the team of Chris Bogg, Tom Volante, Rick Watson, and Richard Warren.
Oh man... The teamwork was fantastic.. Those controllers earned their money thst day. God bless them ALL.
Great job in emergency management. It was likely one of the greatest teamwork efforts ever executed dealing with an ongoing emergency.
I can't even imagine how stressful that would have been.
God bless you too sir. Thank you for your service and keep fighting
@@oc4964 you got no brain?
As a flight attendant, hearing them yelling their commands in the back at 12:10 gives me chills. That incident is reviewed like gospel during flight training, SO MANY things learned and improved afterwards
Yeah, hearing the FAs in the back through the flight deck door makes all FAs take a sharp breath during this movie... Just like how all pilots have a visceral reaction to watching the belly of the plane touch down on the water surface.
The communication during the movie was SO INFORMATIVE of how good CRM is supposed to look like, I'm so glad Kelsey touched on that.
It gave me chills too, and I'm neither a pilot or a passenger.
i think flight attendants are kinda underrated, they have a lot of shit to do and a lot of responsibility and a broad set of responsibilities too. when i was a kid i once flew without my parents and the airline took care of us. my experience was very good with the flight attendants and other personnel. really made sure us kids weren't bored and scared. also a few years ago i flew with an ex girlfriend who was TERRIFIED of flying, like really pathologically terrified. flight attendants noticed it and took great care of her by calming her and coming by every few minutes to ask how things are. after a few flights she was no longer scared of flying.
i think flight attendants are kinda underrated, they have a lot of shit to do and a lot of responsibility and a broad set of responsibilities too. when i was a kid i once flew without my parents and the airline took care of us. my experience was very good with the flight attendants and other personnel. really made sure us kids weren't bored and scared. also a few years ago i flew with an ex girlfriend who was TERRIFIED of flying, like really pathologically terrified. flight attendants noticed it and took great care of her by calming her and coming by every few minutes to ask how things are. after a few flights she was no longer scared of flying.
good flight attendants are socially very skilled,they are also responsible for safety etc, they have to be on a tight schedule and probably they need to know quite a few things too. they also have to deal with annoying people too a lot i assume, and then they are always in the shadow of the pilots lol. i think they're very underrated as a professional group..
Genuinely interested, do u have an example of something that was changed after this accident? How and why? Would love to know
"hero or just doing his job?"
well, sometimes being a hero is the job.
Agreed, just because you got paid for it doesn't dismiss the fact that you saved lives.
That being said, I do have more respect for people that try to distance themselves from the title of 'hero', deserving or not.
That's correct.. 👍👍🇪🇸🇪🇸
He didn't just do his job. He knocked it out of the park. That's what made him a hero.
Especially if your job is being a hero.
I think every time a pilot lands a plane without killing everybody onboard, makes them as much of a hero.
Was he a hero or was he doing his job?
Yes.
Both.
EXACTLY RIGHT !
He is a good pilot.
Andrew Fremantle both
Am sure who was present on the flight say he's a fuking hero
I'm not a pilot but even to me the "Pull up" and "Too low, terrain" warnings are just scary.
Pull up usually goes on landings if you hear to low gear that’s when you will be scared
Thats my plane everytime in TFS
Random bit of trivia for you: Those alarms were sounding far more than in the movie, but that was reduced for creative reasons.
FO Skiles was (correctly) following a checklist for engine restart until they agreed it wasn't working. A checklist for ditching/forced landing would have included disabling those alarms to prevent overload for the pilot, but there simply wasn't time. Clearly they managed superbly despite the distraction - I just find that fascinating.
Try fly a GA plane and watch the stall alarm scream like a rubber chicken everytime you’re on short final 🙂🙃
my plane in a flight simulator while landing :
I am not a pilot, but I have had enough science and physics to understand Sully had to ease that plane down smooth and level. If one wing had hit the water before the other, that plane probably would have done somersaults while ripping apart and tossing bodies all over the place at about 200 miles per hour.
That is something only a highly skilled and cool headed pilot could do. There is no substitute for experience and skill.
I mean the same goes for a landing on a runway. Flight basics 101 is to keep the wings level during landing. The hard part about this landing would be the disorienting effect the water has on the height of the plane and when to flare properly. Too early and you'll stall and porpoise down on the belly. Too late and youll drive the nose into the water. Combined with the fact you're missing about 10 ft of landing gear in an abnormal landing configuration. That was the impressive part. Cheers.
It's not the wings hitting the water being the problem but the huge ENGINES hanging below them. It's the engines hitting the water which is the problem. If it were a regional jet with tail-mounted engines, there would have been less risk.
The fact the plane didn't cartwheel once the nacelles hit the water is a testament to their flying skills as physics was poised to ruin their day.
This is why it's so difficult to have a water landing with a good outcome like this one had. It didn't hurt that the Hudson was smooth as glass that day.
Yep!
Yeah, I like how he said in the movie “I eyeballed it”. My opinion as a passenger car driver for decades, you operate a motor vehicle (car, bus, motorcycle, any type of plane) long enough, you can hear & feel when something goes out or isn’t working right without necessarily having to look at the instrument panel. I believe it when he said both engines went out & that he could feel it.
I would like to thank the Hudson River for just being there when needed most.
I'd spell my reaction to this. L O L
Better than anywhere else
**claps**
And to all the other times, "you're just a filthy animal I gotta cross everyday." Lol
And for not having any boats in the unexpected flight path
With great moustache comes great responsibility! 2 mighty moustaches in the cockpit that day lol.
Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha!! Quite-Right!!
Many Thanks For Your Response!
OH
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You win today's Internet Comment Pulitzer!
@@jessfucket AWESOME! I accept this prestigious award not only for my self but for random comments every where! Thank you! Thank you! 😁
One might say you need 1 mustache per inoperative engine.
My son met Sully at an event at Buckingham Palace, My son was there collecting a flying award as a junior pilot. Sully is a hero but is very humble, A great man
My uncle met him
A friend of my cousins uncle worked with a guy that cleaned Sullys grandma's gutters one summer. He said granny wasnt much of a pilot but made damn good blueberry pie.
@@jimmycorper I honestly can't tell if this is a joke or not 🤣
Not a hero
@@guy2006 how so
Hello Jeff, my name is Lawrence. I spent 27 years flying 737s for another airline. Retired now, and missing a lot of it. One of the highlights happened several months after your landing on the Hudson. My First Officer was on your plane, along with his wife, one of our flight attendants. As soon as the order to evacuate was given, the two of them began to help your crew to get the passengers out onto the wings. He was the last one off the plane, except for Sully. He's visible on many of the photos, right next to the overwing hatch. All three of us have the maximum respect for you and Sully and the rest of your crew. I salute you.
I’m paraphrasing here but: Courage is not the absence of fear. It’s the ability to act correctly without panicking even when you’re afraid. I think Sully was courageous.
I remember an interview with Sully. He was asked did he say a pray or anything like asking God for help. He said no, he focused on flying and assumed the passengers had that part covered :)
Freakin awesome ! Talk about level headed ! 😜
It was all about team work. The pilots flying passengers praying. Got everything covered.
Its awesome how nice these guys are.
Not every prayer is made in words and a moment of silent focus. Sometimes doing what you were trained to do to save lives is the best, most sincere prayer you can offer.
@@franciscoshi1968 kkkkkkkkk lol. Wise one. It's true, the passengers are innocent.
I believe the way Sully, his first officer and the cabin crew handled this emergency constituted the highest standards of the aviation profession. The way Sully defended the crews actions and refused to take credit for saving the crew and passengers, in my book, makes him a hero.
and the controller as well don't forget
Sully and Jeff are the heros of flight made a safe landing on the Hudson river
Spot On!!
My dad (now deceased) who was a pilot said Sully was a hero who did everything by the book to bring about the positive outcome. The entire crew did a wonderful job to save everyone.
Condolences 🕊
ATC right after the water landing: "Cactus 1549 I have a number for you to call..."
possible bird deviation
That would be 911
I just want to point out Clint Eastwood's style of trying to be as realistic as possible was not only really good in their dialog (which is damn near exactly what was said on the audio logs) but that during these scenes... there's no score, no dramatic music. Just the sounds of the plane, the warning alarms, the whoosh as the plane descends, the straight audio of everyone talking as the full gravity of the situation unfolds. Great move on Clint's part.
Also, EVERYONE involved is a hero. The ATC, Capt. Sully and his Co Pilot Jeffrey Skiles, the flight attendants, the ferrymen who responded. Great example of Americans coming together doing great things.
Its soundtrack is like Breath of the Wild- Sparse, but emotionally powerful when it kicks in. Especially with all the bombastic soundtracks nowadays (no offense to the composers, because it is good music) we don't really get moments where the movie is allowed to breathe. We've come to expect dramatic music for such scenes, that it's now actually more powerful when such scenes are silent.
The only criticism I have is that the NTSB is far nerdier in real life. I understand why Clint wrote it the way he did, (he's a libertarian) but organizations like the NTSB and, say, the USGS for example, are more nerdy science people than political lawmakers. They don't actually get to make rules, but if they tell you something, it's generally a good idea to listen.
*74 Gear:* "ATC is your best friend!"
*also 74 Gear:* "I reported that we flew through a bunch of birds, ATC didn't really seem to care."
Funny, my best friends are assholes too.
I mean it's kind of reasonable tbh. They probably hear it every single day and know planes are built to eat quite a few birds without being effected.
Because my best friend is not ATC
Lmao
ATC likely won't make a deal out of it unless you are reporting engine failure or declaring an emergency
I saw this landing from the 31st floor of a high rise on 60th street and Tenth avenue.
It.. was.. breathtaking... So welll executed that for a few minutes I didnt realize it was out of place. The wings were level, the plane was lined up just as if it was aiming for a normal runway landing. Sully made it look easy. Thank you for making this video Kelsey and the ATC vs Pilot of the landing. The potential of how cataclysmic this event could have been to New Yorkers is mind blowing. So many were saved that we can't even estimate. God Bless Sully, Skiles and their amazing crew.
very interesting to hear this! i’ve always wondered if it was scary for any NYC residents to see a plane that low after the events on 9/11. i know this occurred nearly ten years later, but it’s just something i’ve always been curious about. maybe that’s stupid and doesn’t actually make sense, i was only 9 years old on 9/11 and live in a small town on the other side of the country. so i don’t know what it was like, or even what it’s like on any normal day in new york. it’s a cool to hear how it felt for you from your perspective! thanks for sharing
Captain Sully is a hero. He was aviating, navigating and communicating. I watched him speaking about this experience in a video and, expressing that he’s very well read, knew that multi-tasking is a myth and that you’re basically just pivoting from one task to the next without doing either very well. He’s intuitive and accountable.
And if you asked Sully if he was a hero... He'd say.. I was just PIC. pilot in command..
Yes, I (as a mental health professional) confirm that multitasking is a myth.
He's a hero for doing his job well? What if he did his job well but everyone died? Would he still have been a "hero"?
As an ATC it always gives me chills to revisit anything to do with this 'accident'.
I've heard the real communications and I'm amazed by the reaction of my colleagues.
Thank you for the credit that you give us! It is true that we all work together in aviation like a chain and also that we'll try our best to help you in any kind of problem that you might encounter!
fellow atc here from SCT, totally agree with you. Controller did a great job, and did not have a handoff.
Even though you know that they survive, it’s still nail biting.
Duh
That's what good acting does :)
I am amazed that this plane made it down without losing one, single person. Sully, in my opinion, did his job but was certainly a HERO!!! How he managed to keep that plane from cartwheeling and missing a bridge is amazing. Yep, a hero in my book!
To me the toughest part would be getting to the “wait 30 seconds” part of the restart procedure, knowing you have to wait because the engine will never restart if you don’t give it time to build up a charge, but also knowing if it doesn’t work you don’t have another 30 seconds.
Firstly, thanks for the great, concise and professional content you provide.
Secondly, as An FA I want to greatly thank you for the recognition for the work we do "down the back end".
When I was hired as an FA and I told my friends 9 weeks training is what I would undergo they all said "does it take THAT long to learn how to pour a Diet Coke and hand out a bag of chips?"
My reply was "No". That takes 4 days. The rest of the time we learn and train and practice over and over again how to keep our passengers safe - including evacuating 350 passengers from a crashed aircraft with only half of the exits available in under 90 seconds. Fight fires in the cabin at 35000 feet until the captain can land, and oh yes - combat terrorists.
Sounds pretty badass to me
I just don't understand why there is still the pervasive belief that FAs are waitresses in the sky. Smh.
Combating terrorists by throwing bags of chips and cans of Diet Coke at them? 😜
Just kidding, your friends need to see your skills at strapping them to a seat using seat belt extensions.
@@msr1116 probably a holdover from the “golden age of air travel” and the joke I heard as a kid with the FA asking the passengers (largely male businessmen) “coffee, tea, or me?”
These days, even if it was true that FAs were little more than glorified wait-staff (they are so much more than that)… they would probably still need extensive training on how to with an ever increasing self-important passenger base. Because unlike a waitress at a bar or restaurant, FAs can’t simply kick people out the door.
Fortunately, most of us will never see an FA put most their trading to use. Thus the misconception persists.
On a similar note, my daughter has been a certified lifeguard for 15 years now, and is now also a certified lifeguard instructor. So far in 15 years of she has only had to use her CPR training once. And that was for a member who had collapsed in the locker room. And yet like FAs I’m sure, she gets her CPR skills re-certified on a yearly(?) basis. (Some certs a good for a year, others are good for two years)
Very under rated position.
I do love the one quote I read/heard (probably from this channel):
Flight Attendants are there for safety, not convenience. If you weren't needed you would have been replaced by a soda machine.
"a hero" or "doing his job" Can't it be both? Courage isn't fearlessness. Lack of fear is carelessness. Courage is feeling the fear, and doing the job right anyway.
Spoken like a true outhouse philosopher. LOL
You are right. And the same holds true in many walks of life. God bless you sir.
@@kevinquinn1993 ALL walks of life
@@randialtman8612 I gave your comment a thumbs up because you raised a nice point. Still, perhaps for some who have already chosen the wrong walk in life, the same does not apply in a similar fashion. For example I watched a video in which a man whose livelihood was stealing other people's cell phones by force so that he could sell them on the black market was interviewed. He was admonishing people to just give up the phone so that he wouldn't have to use violence upon them. True, his lack of fear is carelessness, because he cares not for the Salvation of his own soul. But his courage is taken in a very dark direction and makes him far less than a hero. God bless you! Thank you for commenting.
Marc Whinery : I agree. Just did his job, not anymore. But anyway some people have worshiped Zeus and partners, even though these gods are mythology. Is it therefore no wonder that some people life-saving pilot is a hero to these people. And the different story is the media's interest in finding something amazing to sell only their job!
Sully did a magnificent job. What is not mentioned is that he was a master glider plane pilot. This came into play as to how he glided the plane into the Hudson.
Even though an Airbus A320 with its engines out would handle nothing like a glider.
while Tom hanks as Captain Sully asks for the checklist he is actually thinking damn we should have done this in castaway.
Yea it's true story
"Wilson, please report to the flight deck"
@@craigfield8465 wilson " I just want you to know we are all counting on you".
HUUUDSOOOOOOON!!!
Damn.... Sully, his copilot Jeff Skiles, and the entire flight crew were all heroes! 👍
Whenever you do your job well and professionally, you're a hero. Sometimes it's just small victories. A well served customer getting what they needed. In this case it was enormous.
Sully in not copilot
That man deserves alot respect . he made the right call to save his crew . That is commendable .
And it's amazing he actually commented here
@@save708 he never said that
Great video! I just happened to be on the 1st hudson ferry to arrive on scene to pull people off the wing. The smell of fuel burned our eyes but still did everything we could. What a day to remember. The only major injury was one flight attendant with a wounded/broken leg that we took on board. Keep up the good work!
That must of been crazy. I can't imagine what was going through everyone's heads. Right after 9/11 and being in New York on a plane crash. All that going on and trying to focus on saving people. Just crazy. Good work to everyone involved.
Thank you for helping people in dire need!
I envy you... What an amazing experience! So cool that everybody survived.
Thank you
If it wasn't for people like you, even though the plane landed in one piece, there would've been many tragedies. There were many heroes that day......you were one of them!
I am a retired cabin crew and would like to thank you for highlighting what our primary role is, and that’s not serving food and beverages. The airline I worked for, SEP was quite rightly very tough and a we all had to go through rigorous recurrent tests every year which even the most experienced cabin crew found challenging but vital.
Louder for the menaces in the back. When I see trousers and practical shoes on FAs- I think “ready for action”. Skirts and heels don’t project “here for your safety”. Thank you for your thankless work.
Ty, i find that people tend to forget about that.
Yea, in rare instances. But 99.9% of the time you’re just serving food and drinks.
@@nodical802 you’re cabin crew? Are you speaking for personal experience as cabin crew or personal observation as a pax?
A coleague's wife is a senior attendant for Delta. While in Santorini for a wedding we had long talks about her role as a flight attendant. I observed her roll was safety not serving drinks to snotty, drunk, pissed off passengers. The cabin crew has the more difficult job of dealing day in and day out with people who don't understand what the job of a flight attendant really is. Hats off to you and flight crews everywhere.
For some reason when the flight attendants start chanting instructions to the passengers i find myself fighting back tears.. Don't know why but it happens everytime.
At least I'm not alone with that... When Sully comes to the radio and says "brace or impact" I get goosebumps all over my body every single time
Me too, I think we understand the stakes, and hats off to the whole flight crew, for their professionalism.
@@jpp9876 exactly... It always comes to my head what the hell would I do in this situation (as a passenger)... Probably I'd panick and black out
I was surprised to see them walking through the rows, were they doing that to check the plane for damage? Don't the flight attendants usually have to wait until the seatbelt sign is off?
Yeah, it happened for me but that was more seeing the passengers' fear and that one guy that got on his phone
Sully and Sykes followed the first rule of flight: fly the aircraft.
Absolutely, fly it the best you can for as long as she will fly. It's okay if she turns into a glider just quickly realize your constraints on effective distance you can still fly based on glide slope and you will quickly know what you can and cannot make. He clearly knew he couldn't make the airport.
I believe Captain Joe says Aviate, Navigate then Communicate.
CORRECT!!! they totally skipped the steps on freaking out and running up and down the aisle screaming "We're all goona die!"
@Robbie Moser you forget the end result :) I know that I could not have done better, I would have tried Tetterboro (that would have made my record look just great!) lol Love to hear how Gear74 would have handled this.I've had bird strike as most of us probably have, but the intensity (number of birds) is NOT something I've experienced.
@X-Plane Captain 4609 well, he did navigate. instead of going over a crowded urban area he navigated the aircraft to minimize collateral damage.
Good video. Glad you credited the FA's. I saw a stunning interview with one of the FA's afterward. She said she was fighting to keep from panicking at the end, and experienced what she described as almost a blackout--couldn't really see or hear for some long seconds. As she came out of it, she started to hear the chant: "BRACE BRACE BRACE; HEAD DOWN; STAY DOWN", over and over, but couldn't make out where it was coming from--till she realized it was her own voice!
Man, if that doesn't prove the value of training, I don't know what does! Half blinded with fear, and still doing exactly the right thing at exactly the right time.
Wow, thats powerful to read! Especially if you've been unlucky enough to have experienced an adrenaline type event with auditory and/or visual exclusion and temporal dilation.
@@MattH-wg7ou ..I agree Matt. That was very powerful. A bit moving, actually. They all did a fantastic job. As for 74 gear's question, "hero or just doing his job?" I say both. Having the experience and the strength of character/courage to do what you are trained for, and that goes for the FA too.
@jeepien where did u find that interview dude. can u share the link for that interview if possible✔💙
@@tarundevnandan2327 Sorry, I just caught it in passing a long while back. Don't even remember if it was TV or youtube or what. Back when, I was teaching at Fort Lee High School, close enough to hit the GW Bridge with a potato. I certainly could have heard the plane fly over, if it had any engines running. But I didn't know what was going on till I got in the car to drive home. I took the river road south along the western bank of the Hudson but couldn't see much by then.
That one ATC agent when he learned Sully was going to need to land on the river...so devastated. He knew what the outcome of a water landing usually is. 😢 Sully is 100% a hero. All his vast experience got everyone home safe. Great crew too!!
Yeah Tell that to the NTSB, those people hunted day and night to find something, anything they could to blame him for.
@@erika_itsumi5141no they did not. They did their investigation as they have to do when a plane crashes. Both crew have come out and said the NTSB weren’t nearly as bad as the movie made them out to be.
Know how you know this guy is the real deal? He's making this clip in a hotel room. Thanks for what you do, man.
Liked your comment so it wasn’t stuck at 69... just cuz I like what you said.
You can see him swallowing in his Adams apple the moment the birds strike the plane.
He was really in the moment visualizing himself in that situation
Yeah I saw that, too. And also as the plane was coming in on the Hudson....
I caught that too.
I’m not afraid of flying...
I’m afraid of the plane suddenly not flying
MEME LORD lol
Falling with style?
Flying is better than travel by ship/cruiser.
There are such of ships already stay in the ocean.
But there are NO planes stay in the air.
Laci Doszka m8 in air refueling ring a bell of course it doesn’t because u can’t english
🤣 🤣
I think that Sully went above and beyond "doing his job." But I also think that there were dozens of heroes that day: All of the ATCs who dropped everything and disrupted all of that traffic to provide safe runways. The first officer who kept his cool. The cabin crew who got those people ready for something they never could have anticipated, and got every single one of them off of a sinking plane. The fire crews and emergency responders. The ferry crews and other boats that were so quick to the rescue. The ferry passengers who gave blankets and jackets to keep the victims warm.
A hero, in my opinion, is someone who makes a sacrifice to do something for someone else, that they couldn't do on their own. Everyone involved that day was definitely a hero.
*nice view of the hudson*
Birds: we will help you get down there...
LOL
Kamikaze birds...
😂
@@nb2008nc 😂
hehehe :)
Small decisions make a huge difference. Sully says, "Brace for impact." In his book, he remembers wondering if he said the right thing. But he gave himself credit - if he'd said "Brace for water landing" the passengers could've been fumbling for flotation devices instead of assuming brace positions. Ergo, more injuries and possibly fatalities.
Skiles had just finished extensive training to pilot Airbus frames after a long time on Boeing, including emergency procedures. Therefore Sully taking the aircraft and Skiles running the QRH checklist while it was more or less fresh in memory was another small yet potentially life-saving decision.
Ms Welsh helping get people off the aircraft despite being severely injured. All five crew with amazing devotion to and expertise at their work - all of them with many years, decades of service. They were all doing their job. There are reasons that the procedures are there: the safety of all souls on board. They did the right thing. Does that make them heroes? Put another way: in today's context, with the coronavirus around us, you've got doctors, nurses, porters, cleaners all doing their jobs with expertise and according to procedure despite a dearth of protective gear. Are they heroes?
Absolutely.
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Just semantics ! Let's not get caught up with our choice of words !
Yes, they are heroes. Authentic, flesh and blood, who cry, suffer, bleed. Many ask cynically: Are they heroes for doing your job? Of course not. They were not doing their job, when landing a plane in a river, because the planes normally land on runways, safely, with firefighters, with flight controllers etc. They were doing something that they never thought to do. They went beyond their duties, their obligations, they went beyond their training; beyond their experience, that's why they are HEROES. The other pilots, who land a plane under normal conditions, ARE NOT CALLED HEROES. It's just like an animal keeper in a zoo: He does his job every day, normally. He feeds lions, tigers, panthers etc. Nobody calls him hero, it is his job, but if a child accidentally falls into a lion's den, and the caretaker jumps to save that child. HE IS A HERO, not by doing his job, but by DOING SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF HIS JOB. Risking his life, the tranquility of his family etc. Another example. The military go to war and are not heroes for going to the front lines. They will defend their flag or their homeland, just as all the military in the world do. They are heroes, when they do something extraordinary, something that nobody does normally, putting their lives at risk, to save their comrades in combat, to save innocents, etc. etc. etc. That's what happened at HUDSON RIVER.
Or, to put it ANOTHER way, what if you have a "mission critical" job and you not only fail to do it the best way possible, but you repeatedly get in the way of others who ARE doing their job, in the best way possible? Does that make the president an anti-hero? What other name would you give that person? I can think of a few...
@@paulsheridan424
Just what I came to see on this channel....someone grinding their political axe.
I cant believe Hollywood turned down my screenplay for a sequel titled "Sully is a murderer" which would have depicted this event from the birds point of view.
Well technically Jeff was flying when they hit the birds. You see how fast I can do these videos 😂
@@74gear But can you do the videos as fast as it takes a 747 at typical cruising speed to travel 46.7 miles at an altitude of 25,000 feet?
Pitch the idea to the angry birds guys. They might do something with it 😀
I'd say the airplane industry but ok.
Take it up in Court....Get yourself a good bird lawyer...
So was both a hero and men just doing his job. Watching this actually brought me to tears. Thanks. For doing this one.
He did something no other pilot had ever even trained for so this guy is a hero in my book.
Jeff Skiles told me that Sully never gave up command of that flight even after it was in the water. That flight was text book cockpit team work.
what did he do wrong? .... NOTHING ... he saved his Passengers in a Situation no other one could handle. A true Hero and I would be happy if I could fly with him. thanks Sully !!!
now if every pilot was as calm and skilled as sully....
@Dominus Ghaul wrong place for you ghaul, shouldnt you be fighting the red war right now?
you fly 1 million passengers and you can get judged by 200 seconds
Every airline pilot is trained to handle that situation but at higher altitude
@@jusezaba8557 they arent. No One had ever lost both engines at an altitude of 2800 ft before. It was impossible to return to the airport and the only option he had was to ditch the aircraft in the Hudson. And it turns out he did it perfectly.
He was doing a part of the job that neither he nor anyone else had practiced. So he was also a hero. This situation always moves me to tears.
Whenever you hear the PULL, UP... PULL, UP... PULL, UP.... shit gets real.
I'd just go ahead and pull up
@@danepetersen5792
Oh and then your plane stalls :D
Yup....just ask Kobe Bryant.
@@thcthehonestclone6329 Kobe enjoyed a covid-free life, at least. Things were still normal in January 2020. I could never have envisioned a virus from some shithole Chinese city shutting down everything.
@@tqsuited Good point of view. Quick death VS. Drowning in your own blood/fluid in a coma...racking up costs for your family to pay... becoming a statistics number. However, to see your death coming via hellacious- 🚁Heli spiral.... the fog blinding your future and past... no time to pray to God... a final slam that perhaps could be infinite..ALL THE WAY DOWN.
Something to ponder indeed
Sully was not just an ordinary pilot. He was a safety expert, safety consultant, accident investigator + he had over 40 years experience of flying airplanes. Same for Jeff Skiles, who even has more flying hours than Sully. Sully also stated that he could never landed the plane with a lesser experienced First Officer. Also, Jeff had just finished his A320 sim training a few weeks before the accident. So he knew exactly where to look and what to do. So it's really a combination of all these factors which made it into a succesfull outcome.
Don't forget they were also lucky. At that speed water can damage a plane easy. The great outcome was a combination of skills and plain old luck.
@@74gear It's pretty miraculous having the right people on the flight deck when things go pear shaped. You should read about the A380 engine failure for Qantas Flight 32, from Singapore to Sydney in Nov 2010. In the cockpit were a military trained, highly experienced captain as PIC, 1st & 2nd FOs, plus TWO check captains! A ridiculous accumulated amount of flight hrs on that deck!
True, but let's not forget the A320s fly-by-wire system keeping the thing level and unstalled. I don't mean to lessen the achievement of the pilots here by any means, but in a less sophisticated plane, the odds of ditching without a "cartwheel" would have been significantly lower.
At the time Sully was a nothing and a dishonest nothing at that. He could have flown anywhere to a safe landing with the remaining engine. To ditch is a bitch!
Myron go back to the basement.Those engines were trashed. they were not going to restart nor was one running when he ditched in the Hudson
the part where Sully says: "this is the captain, brace for impact" always gives me a shiver up my spine... I believe this movie is the most accurate in showing pilot procedures and Clint did a great job on this movie (amazing visuals!) thanks again
Sigma Delta yess
What Kelsey did not show was right after the forced landing, Sully ran out of the flight deck and said “evacuate”
Mama just killed a man...
@@sibbywoo Also he didn't show that Sully refused to leave the plane until he knew that EVERYONE had gotten out of the aircraft safely. He did his job and performed beyond admirably. H E R O!
@@markusnashorn1145
Who mentioned Star Trek on this thread? Seriously?
I remember the news coverage of that event and I was sooo impressed. Being an aerospace engineer, I know a thing about flying, even though I do not have a license. As far as I know, a forces water landing basically newer works for this kind of aircraft, because of the engines, which cause drag in the water, rip of the wings and thus the aircraft often sinks. It also often tumbles, because you often don't manage to hit is horizontally balanced so one side touches water first.
This was outstanding flying by the flight crew. Also keeping the passangers from panicing, evacuating them safely was an outstanding job of the flight attendents. I think all excelled that day and did an incredible job, which lead to 0 casulties. What an impressive feat after such a catastrophic bird strike.
When I watched the movie I was surprised to seeing all these theoretical simulations and all of the test pilots clearly had warning of what would happen. None of the real crew had that.
Thanks for making this more accessible for normal people, Kelsey. :)
From an engineering perspective it is notable that aircraft had specific equipment for water ditching, and Sully used it. Specifically a button to close up the fuselage bottom to reduce sinking (and of cause the mechanical features to do so). Also notable is that terrain warnings are so loud even during emergency descent where it's mostly noise except in zero visibility, but at least it acts as instrument confirmation of situational awareness. It's also worth noting that APU power isn't automatic upon loss of main engine electricity, but that may be a feature to allow captain the choice between APU and ram turbine (the latter conflicting with water ditching).
I wondered about the engines too. They'd be the first parts of the a/c to hit the water, immediately causing a negative pitch moment on the plane and causing a nose down into the water, game over. That didn't happen so there couldn't have been enough drag on the engines after contact with the water, maybe because the water could flow through easily enough to allow the rest of the airframe to plane then settle. Maybe the bird damage cleared enough of the fan blades out to allow that. Bloody miracle in any event.
@@johndododoe1411 They were lucky, this was a domestic flight, but the machine was equipped for water landings (in an emergency), so they could fly international.
When a guy does a great job, in the most difficult of circumstances, without giving way to panic and fear, and his actions save many lives, then he is a hero. All the crew were heroes. Brilliant team effort.
I was in general aviation in a past life and was often in awe that pilots who had little hope of living through impact would give up their last chance of survival to try to avoid casualties on the ground.
Sully was a well trained professional that flew that plane along with the FO and made a forced water landing. 155 souls saved. God bless Capt Sully, FO Skiles, and flight crew. Also thanks to ATC and the passengers who helped one another. Thanks to the Harbor rescue.
Controlled Ditching
As an airline pilot (32 years/46 flying, and with multiple bird strikes on both, engine or airframe), I appreciate non-biased reviews. Yes, Sully, and Jeff Skiles ARE Heros. Classic CRM.
Solly was just doing his job as an airline pilot, but also a hero. The decisions he made while remaining calm were phenomenal
Does anyone else see the micro expression of love on his face when the plane takes off at about (5:29)
He loves to fly :)
I note it too 😂😂😂.
So did I! Awesome to feel like that about your profession.
Yeah I did notice that. That feeling when an aircraft leaves the ground is pretty magical and I guess that never goes away.
@Warrior Son no
Did u notice how he suffered through the entire emergency as if he was there too? Because every pilot did
It always gives me chills when the cabin crew are chanting their brace commands
Sully, Jeff, the crew, the ATC’s and all of the first responders absolutely were heroes that day. Heroes are ordinary people who do their jobs in extraordinary circumstances and save the lives of other people.
Great story, great movie and a great video. It was compelling just to watch you watching that scene and see your authentic reactions and body language.
Just doing their jobs!!
Excellently mentioned. Although it is their job to safely get flights from A to B (or C, in this case), they did their job marvellous, so, they are ALL heroes!
Brilliant comment! 👍👍
Sully did his job, the safe transition of passengers from one location to another, however his skill as a pilot is exceptional. It was a blessing that day for Sully to be the pilot in that uncharacteristic incident. His prompt realization of facts most likely saved lives as he acted with deliberation and skill. Yes Sully is a hero… The greatest marvel is hero’s seldom think they are a hero, they believe they are just a person, at that moment in time, was there to do a job laid before them.
OK... the most interesting thing about this? While focusing on the scenes, 74 Gear (Kelsey) rarely blinks. His attention is laser focused until he begins to speak directly to the camera. It's both freakish and impressive.
It's been shown that when we are focused on a screen, for example watching a movie, we do indeed blink less.
He was above average intense watching this one . I'm surprised he didn't throw a little body English in there. You could tell a part of him was in that cockpit.
He is a pilot so it could be that he’s just that focused when it comes to flight which is super interesting like how often do you think they blink when in an emergency situation. They could literally miss something in the blink of an eye.
@@chrysopraselepidoptera3490 -- I work in operations and marketing and I am pretty much focused on a screen 60% of the time I'm working, as are my colleagues.
Kelsey's attention is remarkable.
Kelsey is just not a man who blinks much. Watch some more 74gear videos and you'll see what I mean.
One thing that is often overlooked, but the movie highlights very well, is the incredible actions of the ferry operators.
I'm not exaggerating when I say that even having survived the landing, being sopping wet and standing on the wings in those conditions, hypothermia could have killed some people within minutes. Not only did they not hesitate, or sit back waiting for 1st responders, but they showed considerable skill in maneuvering their ferries and rescuing the passengers
26 minutes...
Shows the astounding capabilities involved in the organization of a great city and the underrated skills of its people.
I agree wholeheartedly. I watched the evacuation of the passengers from the windows at work and those ferry drivers were the shit! A whole lot of damned fine people did a damned fine job that day.
Floyd Thanks for sharing this! They do deserve great recognition. They were also outstanding in 9/11 helping out!
The most incredible picture I have ever seen is the Circle Line coming to the rescue with the ramp opening pulling up precisely to the edge of thr wing. That was the Cavalry coming over the hill!
I was an aircrewman in the Navy, some years ago. We used to share the often heard joke about the hours of boring routine occasionally interrupted by moments of sheer terror. Funny, but true. Part of the military experience was learning to maintain composure and a rational state of mind independent of your emotional state. But you never know you can do it, until it really matters. It's not heroic to do what you're supposed to do. But it is heroic to remain competent under the pressure of the very real specter of life threatening harm.
Dylan Doxey this comment is underrated
It's either one or the other. I would add that training consists of a good chunk of queasiness. So, boredom, terror and queasiness.
hours of boredom followed by seconds of sheer terror? sounds like another visit from my mother in law.
My dad was an RCAF pilot for over 20 years, I remember one time he came home and just non-nonchalantly exclaimed "I set the plane on fire today"
Fly the same plane for 10 years without issue and one day the radar just sets a battery on fire lol
I spent 23 years in the Canadian Military as a photographer. I photographed a few plane crashes & many vehicle accidents & fires. I agree with your comments about so much boredom and routine followed by seconds of sheer terror! That is so true. I thank you very much for saying what you did about doing what you are trained to do, it is second nature. It is just in you to react, and just jump in and help people. Thank you again on behalf of my many Military friends and coworkers for your kind words.
Heroes ! All of them ! And thank you Kelsey for reminding us again ! One thing that really gives me chills is, if you listen to the audio of the incident (US Airways Flight 1549 Full Cockpit Recording), is how ATC is trying to do everything they can to help ... offering them to return to land on runway 31 ... and when Sully said "unable", ATC responded "OK, what do you need to land ?" ... I just can't shake off the feeling that at that moment, this controller would have probably built them a whole new airport if he could ... So, once again, thank you Kelsey for reminding us all how important it is that everybody work together !
I love how you honor the job of the flight attendants as well! So many people don't think/know how valuable we are!
I'm not even a pilot yet and i know the stress the flight attendants have to go trough. From serving drinks to actually troubleshoot emergencies and stay calm and do the required actions during one. When I become a pilot I hope I can give them even more respect :)
My GF was a FA for AA so I heard tell of the EPT's and struggles, terrible rude passengers, etc. She did San Jose to Narita, Japan, and back on 777's. She claimed that she walked to Japan and back every week. That qualified me to claim that she was my high mileage girlfriend. Kudos to you and many thanks. In years as a passenger, I never once pushed your call button.
Flight attendants: They're not just there to bring you drinks and snack but to help get your ass out of a jam when the time comes.
At the time this happened I was taking a break from flying and instead was instructing in classroom and simulator. The weeks following the event the incident had naturally became a major discussion point when covering cockpit CRM. On several occasions I was faced with the Alpha male types convinced that 'they' would have got the aircraft back to LGA. With these guys I had the ultimate weapon at hand. Later when in the sim having briefed for a particular series of items to be covered I would program the sim for the exact sequence experienced by Sully and his F/O though naturally without any warning to my victims. Out of all those faced with the event not one made it anywhere. Crashed into houses, crashed on approach, some sat there totally catatonic unable to move or think. Many don't realise that when suddenly faced with the unbelievable that is happening it takes precious time to believe it.. and then you have to come up with the answer. Super job by all on that flight.
James Graham omg! That’s an amazing idea! Love this. None of them ever didn’t crash. Wow. I’m a flight attendant. Always admired Sully and Skiles and cabin crew and Controllers working this incident. Even more so now.
James Graham Aren’t they all Alpha males?
Good one with the sim. You got them good!
I don't know you James Graham, but as a DC8 and B 747 retired Captain with 14000 hours I kmow you say it correctly.
And you clearly proved it in the sim detail.
No room for bullshit in aviation, it ALWAYS is spotted and remarked on by someone.
Souls are stripped bare in simulators and on flightdecks.
And there is never any shortage of know-it-alls who were on the ground safe at the time.
That just goes to show you that there are old pilots and bold (alpha?) pilots, yet no old bold pilots!
alpha idiots, more like. Good for getting chicks, bad when critical decisions have to be made.
Captain Sullenberger not only did his job but stood up to a lot of post-landing pressures. He was one of numerous heroes that day. Eastwood produced a spectacular docu-drama. I still get goose bumps at "brace, brace, head down, stay down" A classic movie for the ages.
Sully and the entire crew are heroes. A fair number of long time New Yorkers have anxiety and/or PTSD after 9/11 and I remember social media that day went from panic to celebration really quick.
The city also did some wildlife management on the Canada geese population so they weren’t living in large flocks near major airports.
I'm a former Flight Dispatcher back in the late seventies, many Hollywood movies about this genre just enrage me but this movie totally gets to me, loved it
Plese forgive my sheer ignorance, but what does a Flight Dispatcher do exactly? Is is a variant of an ATC?
@@iggle6448 thanks for asking, a flight dispatcher does all the preflight planning that include weather analysis for the departure, in route destination and alternate, to be consider to do the flight planning besides the route to follow, flight levels, fuel required considering weather and payload (passengers and cargo) then all that information (flight plan) is relayed the the local ATC witch in turn does the same to all ATC's involved in the route determined by the flight dispatcher, all that is done before the pilot checks and agree with the FP, he has the last word, change the route, alternate or more fuel
@@UrsusNY Thank you so much, Daniel. That's an awesomely complex job, not least because there must be scores, maybe hundreds of factors and variations to take into account. It makes me feel grateful, safe (and humbled) that to know that there are people like you working hard behind the scenes to make our air travel so efficient and safe.
I liked how they didn't play dramatic music or have the actors screaming and shouting. The body language alone tells you everything you need to know.
HIs whole life was prep for that day... IN his interviews its the golden string through all his career that made him be ready and experienced in this area. He was a man with heart, a steady, clear mind and he and the crew where a great team! yes they all are heros... x
As he himself explained.. he felt that all his life he had been putting small amounts of "experience" in his account and that day he just made a massive withdraw and had enought for whay he needed
His book goes into a lot of that as well. It's an excellent read!
Quick Reference Handbook:
What to do when you have double engine failure:
1) Turn on APU
2) Panic........you're hosed.
For psychological reasons the word "panic" is never in a QRH, not even in the context of "Don't Panic!" (I know, wrong book) "Stay calm and carry on" should be well understood by the time you get your pilot's licence. So this should be:
1. Activate APU
2. Declare emergency.
2.1. Tell ATC your souls on board and that fuel load does not really matter as far as flight time goes.
3. See if you can find a soft place to put the airplane.
The next step may depend on your religious beliefs.
@@danuttall i dont think praying will turn the engines back on. At the same time, god is all powerful, so he just might
nsjsj lol nice one 😆
Wow, Jeff himself answered. Man, all you pilots and all crew members are heroes everyday taking thousands of people safelly through the air. But this case was really unique. Sully, Jeff, and all people in this crew brought all passengers alive in a very critical situation. Heroes you are. Nice video! Hugs from Belo Horizonte, Brazil!
Sully was obviously doing his job, but he did it so well when the outcome could've been so horrific, that he deserves the praise he's gotten, as well as the First Officer and the rest of the crew. They all were heroic in their team work to bring everyone to safety, so they're all heroes in my book.
First off I am a turbine technician with over 40 years on the job. The manufacturers were given some specifications from the FAA to meet when it comes to bird strikes. We have all seen the videos of frozen chickens shot into a running turbine at full speed. A single chicken weighs in at 5 to 6 pounds and most of the time it will do little damage or ding some blades. The report on this Airbus's engines was that each engine ingested up to 6 each 12 to 15 pound geese. They tore the internals apart. The report listed missing Inlet Guide vanes on each engine. These are movable stators that adjust the air flow through the turbine during start and run up. If just one of those IGV blades is ingested it is game over for that engine as they are in the first few rows of the compressor section and the rest of the blades are usually corn cobbed or totally removed from the rotor. The NTSB was on record at the start of the investigation that the left engine was still running as there was a higher exhaust temperature showing on the Flight recorder. This higher temperature is attributed to the lack of air flow coming from the compressor and the actual flame in the combustor section has now moved back into the turbine hot section wheel area. There was also some fuel still leaking into the left engine because some of the passengers reported flames coming out of the tail cone after the bird strike. After this accident it was noted that the original bird strike tests were not accurate and more research was needed to address this problem.
Pat Reilly Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge and experience with us! I have been to Oak Ridge TN and seen their “chicken cannon” that they shoot them at cockpits, etc. and their high speed cameras that are so fast they don’t have individual frames. They use mirrors spinning at incredible speeds to transfer them to smooth film. Or they did in the 1980s lol.
Thanks again!
Might I ask why you are such a raving asshole @FooBar Maximus I was sharing some of the information from my industry with this page and you come off all over me for that. I am a fully trained Tradesman in the Millwright trade with a Red Seal for qualification. Do YOU even know what a RED SEAL means for qualifications. Four years trade school for that ticket. I also have a Power engineering Third class steam ticket ticket 2 years of study and 3500 hours operating and maintain a 45000 Hp per Hour 450 pound steam boiler. I have an electronics ticket which I attained after 5 years of night school. During my 27 years employed by the turbine manufacture I was an overhaul Technician and a field service representative. I was involved in the start up and commissioning of 220 units across the world. I was fluent in 4 programing languages for the PLC control systems. I also was on the new product evaluation team for the last 5 years I worked for them before I retired evaluating the new equipment to correct a number of issues that were arising with the product roll outs. The Engineering group would come to the evaluation group to get our OPINION on a lot of the problems because our group knew what the problems were and we had solutions for a lot of them. It is called experience that you will not get from a BOOK. You have to be out in the middle of the bush at 2:30 AM trying to get that unit running to appreciate the best way to actually do something. I am now retired and enjoying some time off for a change as my wife used to complain that she would never see much of me when I was working in the field all of the time supporting our customers.
@@patreilly6826 you have proven yourself enough by staying in the field for 40 years. There's zero need to explain anything to an individual that apparently lacks reading comprehension :-) Thanks for your input. People are used to cartoons and can't really imagine what happens to engines when they ingest any objects.
@@patreilly6826 Thank you for your response to that ass. I may have found it even more illuminating than your original comment.
I'm a retired A&P Military contractor, OP is 100% Spot on.
As a layman, I have nothing but total respect for Sully and the crew. He totally owned the problem from the outset, and made a set of decisions that, in the end, worked perfectly. Of that there is no doubt.
I 100% agree. He could have tried to reach an airport and crash short of the runway.
Agreed
I felt like I was in that cockpit with them. The feeling of relief after they landed smoothly onto the Hudson was too real for me. Captain Sully was, and still is, a true American hero on that day, and will remain for years to come.
I am an engineer. This is a great video which covers some amazing events. I've read most of the comments and quite rightly, they emphasise the thanks that are due to numerous people. they were heroes in that under incredibly stressful conditions, they kept it together and responded in the right way. No doubt about that. However, one credit that i don't see is for Airbus. At a time when it seems popular to criticise certain aircraft manufacturers, lets just recognise that the plane was strong enough to avoid breaking up on impact. Airbus, I reckon there are a bunch of engineers and technicians in your employment and probably some who are now retired, who deserve just a little bit of credit too.....
You know, I have often thought the same thing. The plane remained in one piece with very little visible outer damage. Well built, for sure. And it's unbelievable that it floated for hours after the impact. The fact that the wings stayed on made it possible for the passengers to exit without having to go into the freezing water. An excellent plane flown by an excellent crew saved so many lives. The Airbus engineers, the crew and passengers are all heroes.
Every rivit put in place had a reason to be there !
( thanks to an engineer )
Every blueprint !
Every pattern made !
Had a reason !
Every single installer, and electrician !
Those unsung heroes that just show up and do their job everyday !
That airframe, and hundreds like it, are light and strong, because of an engineer !
Well,
a team of engineers !
They are ALL heroes in a number of very real ways !
Thank you, to all of you !
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Dazedand Confused :
in addition to the rivets, we must not forget the fly-by-wire system whose computer kept the aircraft in its flight envelope.
Well said. I remember watching videos on how much testing and R&D used to go into Boeing's planes, quite a contrast to what they did with the 737Max.
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My preferred planes are all retired now in the USA but flying on a 747 was my choice for long haul , especially over water. A 4 engine passenger jet is now a thing of the past, except for the A380.
Having 4 engines like the 747, or A 380 probably would have meant all the difference for Sully & Jeff Skiles that day
Oxford defines hero as: "A person who is admired for their courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities.
" Landing the plane safely despite a horrible situation is definitely an outstanding achievement.
Noble qualities dont make a hero. Most noble people dont do much in life but doing normal work. Not a hero..
Pauses video:
"So when he says "shit", it's an exclamation of disappointment and fear due to hitting birds with a plane"
I agree
Antony Chigurh yeah
Antony Chigurh I'd say "Fuck..." but, I'm a sucker for the f-word!🤣
Sully was just doing his job. But the fact that he, Jeff and the flight attendants did their jobs so well under that kind of pressure with that much at stake. That makes them all heroes.
He was doing his job. Aviation needs heros and that's why this is so awesome. Growing up in the 70s, 80s and 90s I've seen story after story of plane crashes where everyone dies. This is a reminder of the skill level and talent in that cockpit. It let people know that even in the worse case scenario death isn't a certainty, you always have a chance.
The sad truth is that, when something happens, airliners will (perhaps understandably) try to justify the incident as "human error".
Under such situation, it is unfair to blame the pilot. The pilot has survivability in his or her mind, plus the safety of all the souls onboard!
Pilots are not robots. They are human beings. However, whenever a grave incident occurs, airliners tend to forget that fact.
When a pilot loses both engines at such low altitude, and manages to save most of the passengers and crew, that pilot is a hero! Trying to blame the result on him or herself is a big, unnecessary insult!
Too many people believe that flying is terribly dangerous, because of the huge number of people who get killed in air crashes. But that's only because when a plane crashes, hundreds of people are killed or injured at once. Nobody pays any attention to the housands of people who are killed by ones and twos and threes in road accidents. Or by hand guns in the wrong hands.
@@purplealice Statistically, we are way safer on an airplane than in a car, or bus.
This fear of flying started in the 50's and 60's when multiple jet aircraft accidentally crashed in a relatively short period of time. Those incidents, along with Concorde's accidents later on, stained the aviation reputation.
I honestly feel more afraid while being a car passenger rather than an aircraft passenger. (In the typical commercial aircraft, I do not feel afraid at all! During long flights, I literally sleep like a baby!)
I know that. But I have a friend who's terrified of flying, because he believes that all airplanes evetually crash and kill hundreds of people. He has the statistic in front of him - only one out of every 11 million flights crashes. But he's convinced that every plane that takes off is going to go down in flames if he's on it. I don't know how to convince him otherwise.
@@purplealice It takes therapy to "fix" and irrational fear. Facts will never do it.
We had the privilege of hearing Mr Skiles talk at a fund raiser for the West Michigan Aviation Academy in Michigan. It was a a riveting talk. It was like being right there in the cockpit. Heroes, in my book yes. The whole flight crew were heroes! The ATC were also heroes that day. Thank you Captain Sullivan and First Officer Skiles! You will always be heroes to me!
How many aliens did he shoot in Muskegon, Michigan?
"ATC is there as your best friend". I wish I had an ATC or two in my life...
Enzarra if you stop making such awful “jokes” you might be able to make a friend or two.....although I’m sure that’s not your only alarming and revolting personality trait that is scaring people off from you.
@@vtwinbuilder3129 yeah, only worked on paper
VTwin Builder Jesus, man.
Sully was a hero with the experience to land the plane to rescue of all the survivors. Also, the rescue efforts of the Waterway Ferry and other first responders were heroes in this effort.
The response by the watercraft on the Hudson was so fast it could have been assumed they were there just for that reason. They were the unsung 'heroes' for their response.
He was both doing his job and a hero. He did an amazing job and pulled off an aviation miracle.
In a conversation I once had with a pilot (captain), I was told you that the last thing you'll ever want to do is to be in an aircraft that has to make an emergency landing on water. When I first heard of this incident my heart dropped and then my mind was blown when I found out that everyone had survived. I thought there must have been one hell of a crew on that aircraft to have such an incredible outcome!
The other part of this, and I’ve heard Sully give credit for THIS aspect of the landing as well, was the ferry boat operators, harbor police and everyone else that just MOVED to get the survivors out of the water. It was January, that water was COLD, and within how many minutes they were counting every passenger as having made it on to shore!
I think both. He was doing his job as I pilot and used all of his experience to handle the situation as well as he did. He is also a hero because he was able to land the plane on the Hudson so perfectly. I also think that his military career helped him stay calm and able to keep control of the situation.
Hearing the two flight attendants frantically yelling brace in unison in the backgrounds is such a surreal moment of this movie.
Can think of nothing worse than being in a plane, in the air and everything just goes super quiet.
This movie still gives me goosebumps, an amazing pilot who landed so perfectly in the water
Sully and his copilot were both. They did their jobs without panicking or losing focus and managed to complete a forced water landing. If the plane was rolling 1 degree off of level flight, one of the engines could have hit before the other and grabbed the water first ending in a very bad day for all.
They are both hero’s.
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That was mainly done by Airbus's flight envelope protection system which works on electricity. So Sully starting the APU after both engines were inop actually made that forced water landing survivable. This is what I have heard as some other (Airbus) pilot's opinion.
@@jaroslavsevcik3421 Wow just readed about it on wikipedia. It allowed Sully to pull full aft on the joystick and let the plane decide the safer pitch for the speed. One thing less to think about in a very dangerous situation.
@HiWetcam en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_envelope_protection, scroll down to US Airways Flight 1549. It's in the accident report.
@@jaroslavsevcik3421 flap /speed/slats make you to direct law
Let's not debate words like hero. Sully did a fantastic job. There is a clue early on in the flight before the bird strike, when he says "Great view of the Hudson". That is a man who is not only aware of where he is in the real world (as well as the digital world of a Standard Instrument Departure), but has also got a rough Plan B. He is aware that in an extreme situation the only open space around New York that you could put an airliner down is on the water and he knows where that water is.
For my part, I can tell you where there are several very large fields on the departure from Gatwick. That was always my plan B.
Retired A 320 pilot with 6000 hours in command.
Sully is a hero, just as every man and woman who put in the time, effort and dedication to not only fly commercial airline, but to take onto their shoulders the safety of every crew member and passenger. The sheer responsibility you carry is a heavy weight, and you can never know how grateful we are to you for your service.
@@trenae77 Sorry, I can't agree. A hero is someone who deliberately puts their own safety in danger to achieve a greater cause. A hero wins the VC, George Cross or whatever the US equivalent is. Airline pilots do a complicated, safety critical job, some do it well and some... I have met and worked with both.
Please don't confuse doing a good job with heroism, you are degrading the language. Having said that, Sully did an amazing job, everyone walked away from a pilot's worst nightmare. That is better than being a hero.
I've always been fascinated with that "relaxed alertness" state of mind that pilots develop.
Verdun Luck nope, a hero is someone *BY DEFENITION* that “is admired or idealized for courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities.” They don’t have to risk their own life to be a hero. And I’d say landing a commercial airliner on a river is pretty damn noble and an outstanding accomplishment
The word Hero is debatable according to who makes that distinction, but I sense that you would, like many others, including Sullenberger, probably state that you wouldn't think of yourself as one when a flight goes awry and you survive saving your crew and passengers.
I'm of that same conviction.
Captain Sullenberger was the right man at the right time, but was an extraordinarily clear minded and focused individual and that is what I think made him a success in this story, a Hero.
Hi Kelsey. I’m 11 years old. I’v been dreaming of flying a boing 747 for my whole life. I just want you to know that I look up to you and what you do. You inspire me to do what i want to do. I have only 1 hour of flight. This 1 hour came from my first flight in a Cessna 172 sky hawk with my grandmother and a flight instructor. This is my dream and I will make it there one day.
Don't give up the dream, at your age there are so many ways to make it happen. also consider flying helicopters in the army. They always need pilots and helicopters are cool
Scott Stewart thanks
Hi friend!! Check Chesley Sullenberger biography, you will be surprised to know that he got his pilot's license at the age of 14. Sully would be a great inspiration for you, so you never give up on your dream of flying and being a great pilot too.
I'm sure you're already aware of this but looking into flying apprenticeships with major airlines, and potentially aerospace degrees as some come with the ability to get a "frozen" ATPL license. It's not cheap though as you need to pay separately for the ATPL but if you can find an apprenticeship it'll pay for a lot of it.
Also, if you dont mind going the longer way around work yo from a CPL, you'll be flying smaller planes but it'll be commercial, cheaper and its skills you will need to learn anyway to fly big cargo planes and then passengers.
Dont give up! And you've got a good amount of time to plan and learn for all this. Glider licenses I believe have way lower age restrictions and, again, its skills you will need to learn anyway on your way to multi engine craft.
Good luck!
It’s Boeing
The one thing I'd say the crew can unquestionably be credited with is being quite simply amazing at their jobs.
Lives were in their hands and they kept their heads, as far as I'm concerned that makes them heroes.
What really struck me after watching both this and the Pilot vs ATC episode you did on Sully, is how remarkably true to life the dialogue was. Not only in the actual script, but in how calm and collected both sully and the ATC were in reality.
There's a comment from Jeff Skiles that Kelsey pinned about Clint Eastwood wanting to make the movie as true-to-life as possible, and it pays off so well.
My favorite Air Crash docuseries is Mayday and they do a really good job with using the actual cabin audio (if available) or reconstructing the cabin audio as closely as they can reasonably get and it works so well.
This could’ve ended so differently. Hats off too that entire Crew, and Sulley especially.
I think it's pretty cool that Jeff Skiles actually commented on the video. I would like to say thank you and Sully and the crew for an amazing job you did. I am planning on flying to Germany this year to visit family. Could you and Sully possibly fly the plane for my trip. I would really feel much better about flying. As for the question, I believe that Sully, Jeff and the crew are absolutely heroes. They not only saved the lives of the people on the plane, they also spared the lives of people on the ground. Thank you
thanks for the vote of confidence Indy, you are right, Sully Jeff and the crew did a fantastic job, thanks so much for watching!
From another pilot's and frequent flyer's perspective - though the outcome was very good in that everyone on board survived, there were nevertheless very serious errors that were made by the pilots and the flight attendants which, if not for the rapid response by NY Waterways to the rapidly sinking aircraft, could have resulted in the drowning deaths of many of the people on board the ill-fated aircraft. The serious errors were: #1 - Failure of the flight crew to turn on the Ditch Switch, which allowed excessive amounts of water to enter the passenger cabin, #2 - Failing to alert everyone in the cabin over the PA system about the impending emergency water landing (ditching), and #3 - Failure of the pilot in command (and subsequently the Flight Attendants) to warn the passengers not to open either of the two rear emergency exits after the water landing - since both of those emergency exit doors will be below the waterline when the aircraft settles into the water after the ditching. In addition to the excessive amounts of water that entered into the passenger cabin from the flight crew's failure to activate the Ditch Switch, the failure of the flight crew and the flight attendants to warn the passengers not to open either one of the two rear emergency escape doors resulted in the passengers opening one of the rear emergency escape doors. This action allowed a huge amount of water to flood the passenger cabin that, along with the water entering the passenger cabin (from the Ditch Switch not been activated prior to the ditching) caused the aircraft to sink into the water at a much faster rate than it would have, if the proper steps were taken to keep water from entering the passenger cabin, which would have kept the aircraft afloat for a much longer time. The Saving Grace and the Real Miracle in this event was the fact that the aircraft was ditched in very close proximity to the NY Waterways boats, which were able to rapidly evacuate everyone from the rapidly sinking aircraft. Had the aircraft ditched further south in the Hudson River where it would have been too far away from the NY Waterways boats for them to get to the aircraft before it sunk, the outcome could have been catastrophic. A Final Important Note to Every Airline Passenger: - READ the Passenger Emergency Card when you settle into your seat! - And in particular - Be Sure to Read the section on the Emergency Exits, as it will clearly show you not only the location of all the emergency exit doors, but it will also show you which doors (typically the 2 rearmost doors) that should never be opened after an emergency landing in the water!
"A panicked passenger opened a rear door, which a flight attendant was unable to reseal.[32] Water was also entering a hole in the fuselage and through cargo doors that had come open." Geez guy, do your research before spouting off. A movie is not the actual event. Two minutes on the web put the quote
Glad to hear (yawn) such scintillating insight from Bill Defalco, a man who's flaccid sphincter would have exploded in gooey brown diarrhea had he been flying right seat.
Monday morning quarterbacks are a dime a dozen yet you, a-wanna-be-know-it-all are worth less than a penny.
P.S. You stink.
FooBar Maximus Ok, no. He has a point, and respect it like a mature adult please.
Absolutely a hero. He and everyone working that flight. God bless them.