Omg everything you mentioned about using the hips first and being to close is what I have been having issues with, this is like a chain pass , combining all the various passes we know into a sequence, your videos are amazing
Great video. I've seen a purple belt at my gym use this method exactly as you describe with great effect and I took note. Now I know where he got it and the theory behind it.
You are the best ! My issue with passing someone’s guard (especially a larger opponent) is constantly getting my posture broken. You hit the hammer on the nail when said there’s not enough distance in the frame. I try to tuck the knees under the tailbone then round my back yet I can never posture up to get to the position. But you solved it ! Thanks Jon !
Seriously, thank you! I always have trouble getting the closed guard open so these concepts / techniques definitely make things more clear for me. Excellent instruction, as usual!
After researching a while. I come up with these two breaks. And when I see this video, you realised you’ve already sharing these breaks on TH-cam. This confirms my answers. Thanks very much. See 2:41
I've just started out and one of the first things I noticed was how much I struggled when in the closed guard, and how I felt helpless until I slipped up and my opponent capitalised. Looking forward to drilling this escape!
Such an import video. I’m a low level blue belt (very low lol) and this guard opening technique has great if there is a big size strength difference. What takes this video to the next level is the fact that you deal with the grip battle for inside position. Winning that battle eliminates like 90% of the failure. The other nice touch is dealing with the opponent not re-closing his guard high up. I haven’t tried doing that other guard opening technique because it’s been low percentage for me. Now I will. I’m a buck fifty and always give up weight and strength but this guard opening technique has been very successful for me. Thanks for the extra details!!
This has been my number 1 “back out” closed guard pass forever. It might be the safest of closed guard passes and it’s effective. I sometimes use the same setup and then go forward, hop to my feet and do the Roger Gracie or Priit Mikaelson style pass. They make a nice 1-2. Where I personally get in trouble is the tradition “maintain your posture” position. I only spend time there to work for inside position.
(1) So if his legs are near you behind, move backwards (2) If his legs are near your upper body, you need to move upwards (by creating a violater frame)
Awesome video as always. A series on attacking from side control vs knee on belly and when to transition between the two would be good. Also, combining/chaining standing and low passes together like Rodolfo would do sometimes. In fact, more insight into chaining passes together would be great.
Great video as always. Not sure if you have a video on this but, I’m having trouble passing dlr when the person has a deep hook. Looking for tips to control and turn back in to the opponent Cheers
Hey Jon could you cover the counters to the bear hug pass...a lot of strong wrestlers are using this pass and it can be a pain. Thanks for the great content...extremely helpful,
He won't wait let you to do all of that and he will grap ur nick gi with gross chock soo fast, so the best way is to stand and pushing 1 knee of you apponent to the side and u can use ur other hand to push hin foot from behind
Great vids! Can I suggest a back take/back control defense standing? A lot of the top guys defend the back take and even the already established control by standing and working from there. Never saw an instructional on this anywhere. One of the guys that is very good at this is Ivan Tomasetti (there was a vid of him flipping Keenan off his back and going for an armbar). Thank you and keep up the good work!
I tried this today after strugging with bigger guys, instead of them trying to break my grips they just ripped a collar choke when I had my elbows pressed down as you said.. seem to be forever on the back foot here myself
When they try to pull you back in you need to stiff arm with your arms on their arm pits keep your elbows down when they try to pummel, but when they go for choke stuff arm and back your hips up and get ready to stand and open.
I've never seen this before, mind blown yet again! Question - Are your arms in danger? They seem really stretched out as you're starting the break, pushing your hips back, and again when you stand up.
Dani .Smith As long as you control the arm pits on both side he has no way of getting out to an angle to attack your arm. And he does have any control over your elbow.
Great solid instruction, Jon! But at 4:45, if someone is sprawled out with their arms extended I'm going readjust my legs to a high guard and quickly slap on a Dead Orchard (open to double armbar too). Would be easier to lock on since opponent's posture is broken down and shoulders are slimmed down because of the stretch. Just want to problem solve this in case I'm in someone's Closed guard and want to break safely. Any options?
Satoru Warubozu If your arms are locked in their arm pit with strong lapel grips if they go high Guard I put that knee in middle immediately I understand the concern but I feel very safe that I can defend the high guard there.
People I roll with will let me get those grips and stand up so that they can overhead sweep me (double sleeve grips with feet on hips). Any tips on avoiding this, maybe my posture or body positioning is wrong somehow?
Are you not a fan of putting both knees in the center after you stand up? I know the Atos guys use that style of guard break. Also, for nogi do you generally look to use the same technique but with hands on biceps rather than lapels?
foulfortune Not really a big fan of that one I think it works I just find this one the easiest. I don’t really work no gi much these days so I’m not an expert on it but I have seen it used in no gi as well with grips in bicep.
hey, i'm looking for that atos way to break closed guard, i believe barbosa used it, but i can't find it in any way, does it have a name? Are there any tutorial or examples where i can look? I tried it my way and worked against a purple belt(i'm white) but i wanted to perfect it. Thank you in advance
Hello, Thomas. Do you think there any adjustment necessary for breaking the closed guard in no-gi? Because in practice, I feel that the person on the bottom still easy grabs the elbow, neck, wrist etc to break the top-person's posture, whereas, the top guy now has very little purchase on the bottom's guy body. It feels significantly more difficult for me to break the closed guard in nogi. And again, thank you for making quality instructional for everyone, Thomas.
Answered same question below kind of. I don’t do no gi a lot so don’t feel super confident about answering the questions in no gi. I don’t like to give out advice I am not one hundred percent confident on from sparring
th-cam.com/video/uA3M8RbVUt0/w-d-xo.html About 1:30 in Marcelo starts in a similar way in no-gi. He does this also against Diego Sanchez and other competitors no-gi in the 2003 Abu-dabi. You might get ideas from him for applying these guard breaks in nogi. Hope this helps 😀
I think its great you include a real world situation where this technique is being used.
The violator pass. Such a good name you must keep it!
After practicing jiu jitsu for a while you get used to sexual jokes, but it takes those jokes to a whole new level.
Omg everything you mentioned about using the hips first and being to close is what I have been having issues with, this is like a chain pass , combining all the various passes we know into a sequence, your videos are amazing
Great video. I've seen a purple belt at my gym use this method exactly as you describe with great effect and I took note. Now I know where he got it and the theory behind it.
Very helpful. One of the basic fundamentals, yet very difficult.
Some of the simplest concepts are the hardest to fully implement
It reminds me of what Marcello Garcia would do in the closed guard in those old Abu-Dabi videos. Great work 👍
You are the best ! My issue with passing someone’s guard (especially a larger opponent) is constantly getting my posture broken. You hit the hammer on the nail when said there’s not enough distance in the frame. I try to tuck the knees under the tailbone then round my back yet I can never posture up to get to the position. But you solved it ! Thanks Jon !
Seriously, thank you! I always have trouble getting the closed guard open so these concepts / techniques definitely make things more clear for me. Excellent instruction, as usual!
Pitra Media Haply it helps. Thanks!
After researching a while. I come up with these two breaks. And when I see this video, you realised you’ve already sharing these breaks on TH-cam. This confirms my answers. Thanks very much. See 2:41
My favorite closed guard pass ♥️ I've never heard such a good explanation as this video. Really really good way of explaining
I've just started out and one of the first things I noticed was how much I struggled when in the closed guard, and how I felt helpless until I slipped up and my opponent capitalised. Looking forward to drilling this escape!
Keep up the great work John! Another great FAQ answered!!
Thank you for sharing more videos on the channel! I am a new white belt interested to figure what works best in different situations!
Tried this out today, worked like a charm! Thanks Jon, loving the channel 😁
SOLID, Jon....basic and effective!
Such an import video. I’m a low level blue belt (very low lol) and this guard opening technique has great if there is a big size strength difference. What takes this video to the next level is the fact that you deal with the grip battle for inside position. Winning that battle eliminates like 90% of the failure. The other nice touch is dealing with the opponent not re-closing his guard high up. I haven’t tried doing that other guard opening technique because it’s been low percentage for me. Now I will. I’m a buck fifty and always give up weight and strength but this guard opening technique has been very successful for me. Thanks for the extra details!!
Hi bro, what level are you now? Purple or high blue?
@@jakubek89 havent trained in a few years. 2 stripe blue belt. Got busy with the kids. Lol.
You are a life saver been doing this wrong for a year
Thanks a lot John, can't wait to try it 👌👍
This has been my number 1 “back out” closed guard pass forever. It might be the safest of closed guard passes and it’s effective. I sometimes use the same setup and then go forward, hop to my feet and do the Roger Gracie or Priit Mikaelson style pass. They make a nice 1-2. Where I personally get in trouble is the tradition “maintain your posture” position. I only spend time there to work for inside position.
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Thanks for the Video ❤
(1) So if his legs are near you behind, move backwards (2) If his legs are near your upper body, you need to move upwards (by creating a violater frame)
Thank you much needed
First video I have seen of ours, and very very good explanation. Thank you.
Android Phone thanks! Happy you like the video!
Awesome video as always. A series on attacking from side control vs knee on belly and when to transition between the two would be good. Also, combining/chaining standing and low passes together like Rodolfo would do sometimes. In fact, more insight into chaining passes together would be great.
dn a can definitely do a video on combining moves in general passing and subs. Good idea
+1
sweet. cant wait to try it. thank you!
Great video as always. Not sure if you have a video on this but, I’m having trouble passing dlr when the person has a deep hook. Looking for tips to control and turn back in to the opponent
Cheers
Light weight here… subscribed! 🤙🏼
Hey Jon could you cover the counters to the bear hug pass...a lot of strong wrestlers are using this pass and it can be a pain. Thanks for the great content...extremely helpful,
Thank you
Thanks Jon! 👊
Obrigado.
Love your videos. Btw your hair is majestic lmao
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Perfect!
He won't wait let you to do all of that and he will grap ur nick gi with gross chock soo fast, so the best way is to stand and pushing 1 knee of you apponent to the side and u can use ur other hand to push hin foot from behind
Great vids! Can I suggest a back take/back control defense standing? A lot of the top guys defend the back take and even the already established control by standing and working from there. Never saw an instructional on this anywhere. One of the guys that is very good at this is Ivan Tomasetti (there was a vid of him flipping Keenan off his back and going for an armbar). Thank you and keep up the good work!
Tudor Mihaita second this. Would like to see a back escape/defense series.
Such a small world.. Hello Sensei!
Mihai Muscalu Indeed :) Ossss!
Kaynan Duarte used this to open Nicholas Meregali closed guard in Spyder Korea 2019 Finals
I tried this today after strugging with bigger guys, instead of them trying to break my grips they just ripped a collar choke when I had my elbows pressed down as you said.. seem to be forever on the back foot here myself
When they try to pull you back in you need to stiff arm with your arms on their arm pits keep your elbows down when they try to pummel, but when they go for choke stuff arm and back your hips up and get ready to stand and open.
@@JonThomasBJJ I'll try that tonight! thanks for the reply on a vid so long ago. love your work and vids from ages ago til now. keep it up!
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I've never seen this before, mind blown yet again! Question - Are your arms in danger? They seem really stretched out as you're starting the break, pushing your hips back, and again when you stand up.
Dani .Smith As long as you control the arm pits on both side he has no way of getting out to an angle to attack your arm. And he does have any control over your elbow.
@@JonThomasBJJ thanks for the reply!!
Great solid instruction, Jon! But at 4:45, if someone is sprawled out with their arms extended I'm going readjust my legs to a high guard and quickly slap on a Dead Orchard (open to double armbar too). Would be easier to lock on since opponent's posture is broken down and shoulders are slimmed down because of the stretch. Just want to problem solve this in case I'm in someone's Closed guard and want to break safely. Any options?
Satoru Warubozu If your arms are locked in their arm pit with strong lapel grips if they go high Guard I put that knee in middle immediately I understand the concern but I feel very safe that I can defend the high guard there.
@@JonThomasBJJ thank you! I appreciate your quick reply! Looking fwd to splitting some guards open now ! =)
Scissor sweep/guard pass(high and low). And knee shield pass (high and low) please.
People I roll with will let me get those grips and stand up so that they can overhead sweep me (double sleeve grips with feet on hips). Any tips on avoiding this, maybe my posture or body positioning is wrong somehow?
Stand backward a little and half squarded. Jon showed 5:00 5:55 you in the video already.
Do you have a link to the Roger Gracie sweep you mentioned?
Russell Jorden look up his last match with buchecha he hits it on him.
ginger you is great ahaha
Are you not a fan of putting both knees in the center after you stand up? I know the Atos guys use that style of guard break.
Also, for nogi do you generally look to use the same technique but with hands on biceps rather than lapels?
foulfortune Not really a big fan of that one I think it works I just find this one the easiest.
I don’t really work no gi much these days so I’m not an expert on it but I have seen it used in no gi as well with grips in bicep.
hey, i'm looking for that atos way to break closed guard, i believe barbosa used it, but i can't find it in any way, does it have a name? Are there any tutorial or examples where i can look? I tried it my way and worked against a purple belt(i'm white) but i wanted to perfect it. Thank you in advance
can you please show how to do this stuff without having to rely on your opponent wearing a bathrobe+pants...
Hello, Thomas. Do you think there any adjustment necessary for breaking the closed guard in no-gi? Because in practice, I feel that the person on the bottom still easy grabs the elbow, neck, wrist etc to break the top-person's posture, whereas, the top guy now has very little purchase on the bottom's guy body. It feels significantly more difficult for me to break the closed guard in nogi. And again, thank you for making quality instructional for everyone, Thomas.
Answered same question below kind of. I don’t do no gi a lot so don’t feel super confident about answering the questions in no gi. I don’t like to give out advice I am not one hundred percent confident on from sparring
@@JonThomasBJJ good answer. I love it when people don't pretend to know everything. I respect that answer 👍
th-cam.com/video/uA3M8RbVUt0/w-d-xo.html
About 1:30 in Marcelo starts in a similar way in no-gi. He does this also against Diego Sanchez and other competitors no-gi in the 2003 Abu-dabi. You might get ideas from him for applying these guard breaks in nogi. Hope this helps 😀
Maintaining side control next?
John! Where my boy at?!!?? Use Daniel!
Oh wow it’s Leandro Lo on bottom :/ RIP
bjj is sooo crazy bc there's some guys who are very un-intimidating looking and are actually absolute killers. for example, mike musemeci lol
What about no gi
Whenever I put my knee in the center my opponent pushes off of it and takes my back
Jon Thomas in a white gi??!
I know lol rare sighting!
Sorry, you aint opening my closed guard with this.
Gahhh your sound levels still suck! So quiet!
Love you otherwise.