It’s Time To Break Up With Our Gas Stoves | Climate Town
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I also got kicked out of an IKEA for filming. But it's all cool; I'm getting an induction stove installed in January. Now we're cook'n with electromagnetism!
UwU
my favorite city planning channel watches my favorite climate change channel. wow whatta great day!
Hi there another favourite channel. Will you now recommend maglev trains?
PS: Don't place or wear anything magnetic near the hob like metal watches or spoons that shouldn't be there.
Do I smell a collaboration?!
my two favourite creators in one browser tab, what a world
This video aged well.
@Stein Mauer It must really chap your sphincter that we have so much money to spend… And you don't!🤣
@@milopepper2559 Poor shaming, really?
@@thedapperdolphin1590 In you call that an insult? Really?? I deserve something really cutting! Try again.
Fine wine
Why? What happend?
This video hits differently after the gas stove culture war and egg shortage of 2023
You mean 2022? My grocery store didn't have eggs half the time last year
You mean the Bolshevik famine of 2023
@@africkinamerican It's just a coincidence that jews led a genocide every single other time. Surely it won't happen again again...
I was waiting for him to mention that part. The natural gas industry went a little overboard with their debut onto Fox news.
They made a culture war over this?
As a professional chef I can state: gas stoves used to be the best and fastest way to cook stuff. Until induction came along and slapped the living shut out of gas powered stoves.
If you think cooking with gas is fun, please try cooking on induction! It doesn't throw heat in the loose direction where your pan is resting while screaming 'get hot already!'. It simply makes the pan become hot from its inside. Fast. It's literally magic. And it changed the way we work in professional kitchens, made everything easier, faster and safer. I don't have induction at home yet, but every time I visit my parents I love to cook something for them because it's so much fun.
Gas stoves heat up the whole kitchen and are one of the biggest sources of accidents, simply because they heat up all the stuff around that they're not supposed to. The only time I want to use gas is when I'm camping and then I use propane which has no impact on climate because it breaks down into CO2 and H2O.
induction for the win.
I agree with you on everything, just one correction about the propane gas on climate because CO2 is a greenhouse gas
@@ohhimark9974 yep, you're right
Literally what trees breathe. More CO2, more trees.
@@marctestarossa I'm also a professional chef, and I like and don't like induction burners. It is almost magical how fast they can heat up a pan, but they have size limits which gas and electric stoves do not. I'm sure you can understand that I need a burner that can handle any size saucepan, stock pot, sauteuse, sautior, etcetera. Induction burners with a diameter of 20 centimeters will only heat the 20 centimeters of a 30 centimeter pan, which causes pan warping and an uneven heating surface. I'm not saying they're bad, but that they don't work well yet outside of one's home. They sure don't work with wok, either. The best induction burners put out around 30,000 btu's, while a jet burner for a wok puts out around 130,000 btu's. And wok's don't have flat surfaces. I went on a tangent on woks....
I think what I'm trying to say is that while induction stoves are super awesome, and I do hope they take off and the tech gets cheaper and it's more affordable to the average citizen, it currently does not meet my needs in a professional kitchen. It's simply not as useful. And there's some sort of magic lost between a flame licking your steak to a beautiful char, and a magnet.
I'm wondering is an induction wok burner / stove is even possible because of the way cooking is done with a wok. hmm...
Curious as to your thoughts.
And keep on cooking. Making good food is what keeps us in business :) even if you use magnets to do it!
I’m never surprised that integrity is for sale but I am always SHOCKED by how inexpensive it is.
Supply and demand amirite?
@@bananafax QUESTION: Solarpanels, can i have them without having them where i am? Is there an Option of sponsoring someone, similar to a Kickstarer kinda, for People who just dont have the Spcae for their own Solarpanel?
Can i make it so theres more of hem in the World and slowly get my Investment back over Time?
@@loturzelrestaurant Ever heard about the stock market?
@@loturzelrestaurant This is the purpose of Community Solar and Community Choice Aggregation in the US. Some utilities also offer an option to pay a couple extra bucks per month to receive 100% renewable energy. That's not really how the grid works, but it still sends the proper buying signal to the utility
@@MrBobbyDub that it is.
I really like the idea of investing in someone else's roof and get your investment slowly back. I really love this idea.
But, to overall change the industry and therefore really make a change, we as a consumer need to invest in things that are slightly more expensive to form our own future.
The industry, doesn't matter which one, wants as much profit as possible. And if we buy the cheapest in the market, they will milk this cow until the planet dies, because the people with the money won't suffer the consequences.
But if the market shifts because the people don't want to pay for gas anymore, they need to shift aswell to still get their money.
This is the most underrated TH-cam channel I'm aware of.
right? and youtube's algorithm actually hides this from your feed even if the bell icon is on. I am 2 weeks late to this video, because I never got notified that it was made!
Great videos, but I don't see how they'll grow with so few videos and not posting anything for over 2 months :-(
He was getting 50k a video a few months ago when I first found him, it's 300k now. I would say "emerging", not "underrated", mark my words his channel's gonna be absofuckinglutely massive in a year.
1. well researched climate info at a time when climate awareness is becoming more widespread
2. he's like super really hot
3. funny videos
4. he's shirtless in some shots
Ikr! I'm a nerd for this stuff but I always learn something new. The most surprising thing in this video was a completely unexpected chest hair pattern. And that nobody is talking about that hilarious non sequitir... #tarpsoffforelectriccooking
legit
Came back to congratulate this video on getting ahead of the zeitgeist... and also giving folks somewhere to learn more about the issue as we've known about this for a long time.
Because the power grid can handle anything 🤡🤡🤡
@mrmatalino if you grow it out, then yeah, pretty much. Besides burning that same gas in a power plant can be used to cook with induction more efficiently. Literally more meals cooked with less of the same gas.
@@Executableapplication if Americas shitty infrastructure is the argument, America wouldnt get anything done 😂 roads are shit, traintracks are shit, Gaspipes are shit, electricity is shit.
@@Executableapplication It can, if you actually care about it. In gemany I had 6 power outages in my whole life. only one of those took longer than half an hour.
@@Executableapplication It is well documented that no power grid can handle how awesome my hair is.
Gas stove drama hit is stride now! This video aged like wine this year.
We've had an induction cooktop for a few years, and there's one thing my wife loves about them that you haven't mentioned here: they're so much easier to clean than gas stoves! Just one flat surface to wipe off.
Yup, sure don't miss the ancient gas stove with a rag-shredding cast iron rack that was covered in years of burnt on grease.
This is not a unique feature of induction cooktops. Infrared cooktops also commonly have a single glass surface.
@@ewicky ALL ceramic cooktops have a single glass surface. Magnetic induction, infrared, halogen, good old electric resistance - all have a single ceramic surface.
As for induction cooktops being the bees knees... not really.
Compared to gas - sure. But then again, might as well compare them to a coal burning stove. In a Pripyat kitchen.
Compared to electric resistance where electricity simply heats up a wire - induction cooktops are only 10-15 percentage points more efficient.
When the goal of efficiency is SPEED of heat-up.
Achieved in a great part by being designed to dump more power AND faster into the pot. Which is great on paper. Want that water to heat up fast? BAM! There you go. Magnets!
Problem is that most mammals are not secretly steam locomotives. Humans in particular do not run on quickly boiled water.
Our food needs to be cooked to release the nutrients trapped within the raw food AND it needs to be cooked in such a way so as to NOT DESTROY the vitamins present in the food or to turn them into carcinogenic lumps of burnt carbon.
Thus the goal of most of our cooking is not to boil or burn our food as fast as possible - it is a process of continuous cooking at a stable temperature.
Which is where induction either loses to OR is equal in efficiency to ceramic cooktop electric resistance stoves. And where it spreads the heat around the cooktop and the room just like any electric resistance cooktop.
Another problem with an induction cooktop is that it is over-engineered for fanciness. You know... that "modern" and "futuristic" thing. From the 1930s.
Thus it comes with a lot (A LOOOOT) more electronics built in, from fancy computing thingamajigs to dandy Wi-Fi capabilities so you can IoT and Web3.0 while you're MySpacing that egg.
Which is basically just more expensive to repair stuff that WILL break out of warranty, possibly crippling the entire stove and resulting in a purchase of a whole new stove because it can't do updates to its water boiling controller.
Oh, and it always eats 3-6 watts of electricity just sitting there on standby, 24/7/365. Some 50+ kWh per year per home. No biggie.
If every household in the US switched to induction that's just some 6.76 million megawatt hours wasted, annually.
So like, more than the annual retail electricity consumption of Alaska (5.91 million MWh) or Vermont (5.33 million MWh) but less than Hawaii (8.79 million MWh) or Rhode Island (7.35 million MWh).
Or some 5589 DeLoreans of time travel. Gotta have them thingamajigs. Switch-thermostat-coil combo simply won't do for the 21st century boys. This ain't stone age.
And then there are the good ole cookware problems. Wherein that good ole cookware no longer works on an induction cooktop.
Because induction is designed for iron and steel. Meaning that all that copper or aluminum cookware is now trash which no longer works.
Cause it is not ferromagnetic. Magnets. They do nothing.
Same goes for cookware with copper cores in the bottom, designed for more efficient heat retention and distribution in order to save energy and cook better.
With an induction cooktop all that mined, refined, processed, cast and forged metal goes straight into trash and MORE iron is mined, refined, cast and forged into brand new stainless steel cookware which is then shipped (literally) across the globe to be sold to people who are trying to save the world by buying one frying pan at a time. Again.
And you'll know it is good because it is heavy, new, expensive and magnets. Just like the induction cooktop. And it will have a green leaf somewhere on the box.
I have like a small orgasm in my brain whenever I see a green leaf on packaging or promotional material.
A plastic bottle of sesame oil fell and my glass stove top broke. Idk I would have not had this issue if I had gas burners instead.
@@msi8311 Unless it was really old (or the plastic bottle was a 5-gallon bucket), that sounds like a defective stove.
I've finally worked out why Climate Towns takes so long between videos. It's to grow back his chest hair, every time he tapes his microphone to his chest!
Yeah he went full duct tape this time forgoing the painters tape. It might be he is just numb after just finishing his master's and needs to feel again.
He just needs a few more Patreon‘s and he’ll have all the team he needs to get these out faster. This is not the type of work that one person can do.
Hahaha!
whats with his regular hair though?
@@lazww He's a mammal, and mammals have hair.
I have an electric stove and my parents have an induction stove - both are pretty good these days, but the induction stove is kinda amazing.
When we moved into our house, the previous owners had an old coiled electric cook top. We wanted to get gas, but the main stops about 300 yards up the road and we would have had to pay $60k to get it connected to our house.
We bought a new induction cooktop and it has been a revelation. It heats faster, cooks more evenly, it's easier to clean, don't need to worry about gas lines. It's terrific. We sing it's praises any time the subject of kitchen appliances comes up.
That "easy to clean" is a HUGE bonus to induction ranges.
You can clean and sanitize without having to take out the heating elements, drip pans (gross) and lift the top section to find the decade's worth of cooked-on grime from the last three tenants (shivers).
@@MonkeyJedi99 If you have coils you can actually see and touch on an electric stove, that must be a hassle to clean in many, many cases. Personally, I only have experience with electric stoves where you either have elevated "plates" as burners or just one smooth surface. Both are not at all a hassle to clean.
Why didn't you just get a large propane tank or better yet a bio digester that makes methane gas from your sewage food, garden, and yard waist?
Or you could get a portable gas tank yk
@@personalitycat9842 because that's a worse alternative in every way?
As a young city solo hispanic millennial design enthusiast, let me tell ya, this is your best video yet, and all your videos are already S tier.
Favorite part: EFFICIENT TRAVEL MONTAGE
I'll ask what we're all dying to know:
What is your season??
If only you'd have a promising family, I could have filled my gas bingo card!
...yet no family plan. Gay as well...speaking of which...why isnt that one of them?
But the pizzas (>°°)>
Amen!! 🙌
After all this hoopla in the past few days the right has been going on, seeing this video posted a year ago. Very nice.
This video aged well. Now relevant in Germany.
"That is between our Lord and Saviour - Jesus Fucking Christ - that is the loudest truck I've ever heard."
That one got me good.
Had me laughing for a good while too
But he forgot the “H.”.
I'm a big home cooker, and I was a gas stove advocate for years. I moved to Belgium, where Induction stoves are more the norm than gas. I thought it would be like the old glass-top stoves that take an hour to heat up and 6 hours to cool down. However, induction is so much faster and more responsive than gas. I'm now a total convert. Big Induction needs to hire lobbyists.
I like how gas stoves can run as long as gas flows, ie during an emergency. During Californias power outage we’re able to hook up our stove to a portable battery pack & cook while it used less than 10% of the portable battery to heat up lunch, dinner & boil water. It would probably take an entire battery generator to cook & boil water on an induction top.
If there is a hit to the gas line in an emergency there can easily be fires and/or explosions. While it makes some sense to keep a camping stove with fuel for emergencies it makes little sense to plan your everyday use as if it's emergency backup.
@@loveforsberg530 live in California with reoccurring blackouts for the past 4 years in a row and you plan accordingly
@@loveforsberg530 Gas line? I get It in big containers/cans (bombonas in spanish). I have like 4 that I only need to replenish them like once a year. Never had any problem.
@@ricecakeboii94 Where I live gas outages are way more common than electricity shortages...so people are switching to electric stoves just because of that...so I guess it depend on where you live ^^
The home I moved into came with an electric range. It's not the one with the ceramic coils, it's a glass top with the heating elements under it and the turn bright red. It takes a bit of getting used to, but I'm able to cook stuff just fine with this. One nice thing is that the top is really easy to clean because it's literally just one giant plate of glass. You wipe it and that's it. Try doing that with a gas range, lol.
The glass gets all scratched and looks like crap after a year of usage.
@@markhoffman no it doesn't. We've got one at home for over 10 years now and it still looks and works just as good as it did all those years ago. Induction stoves simply are the better alternative nowadays.
@@Jonny_24 I wouldn’t go as far as to say better.
@@markhoffman sounds like someone got scammed by gas stove
This guy is really trying hard to defend gas stoves in comments here XD
Wonder how much he got paid
This is a seriously spectacular program. I learned about this channel via word-of-mouth from my brother and uh, yep! It's exactly as good as promised!
Good brother. I’m about to do the same with my brothers! I hope they like it
@@salvadormuro7346 good luck boss!
Ahhhhh I see there's another banger on Climate Town! Let's be impressed and depressed for 21 minutes 🔥🔥🔥 For real though Rollie you're incredible.
Thank you so much!!! I really appreciate it.
That was about four minutes too long...
@SMA Productions can you please link us some stuff about this? I genuinely want to watch/read.
@SMA Productions that sounds really interesting, where can I find out more about this? I am a strong supporter of renewable energy but would love some insight into methods of energy production that may be doing the planet more harm than good.
Only just learned this week that induction cooks faster than gas. Used one electric burner in college and it was so terrible it made me hate them forever until I realised tech increased so much more in between
Cooks "faster" is really just misleading. All it really means is you can get a pot of water to boiling quicker. In reality, you're not going to cook faster, because all food is cooked slower than maximum speed, otherwise it will burn. You're not cooking anything faster without burning it. So it's creating a solution to a problem that doesn't really exist. In reality, gas in a stove is actually more efficient than electricity over power lines. Gas in a stove is basically fusion energy at your finger tips. Think about that. All this video is, is big electricity trying to consolidate its power, no different than those commercials of oil barons in forested areas.
@@peoplez129 If your water boils in say, two minutes less on the induction top, and you are cooking the same pasta on both types of electric range, you get to the finish line called 'al dente' in fewer minutes.
That is faster.
@@MonkeyJedi99 Except you won't get there any quicker than the maximum a gas stove would do, because you wouldn't even run a gas stove at maximum to cook noodles. You would overflow the pot from overheating. After water reaches boiling point, you put the flame down to a simmer. So that induction top isn't going to help you cook noodles any quicker. The same applies to most foods. You wouldn't make a stew on extreme heat. You wouldn't make a sauce on extreme heat. You wouldn't fry bacon or cook a burger on extreme heat. You wouldn't heat up oil / butter on extreme heat. That pretty much covers everything. Cook times are reliant on how fast the food can be cooked, not how fast you can cook the food. The only exception to this would be something like pizza that benefit from high heat and short cook times to give that pizzeria style crust consistency.
@@peoplez129 What about the whole "Methane release climate change issue?" are we ignoring that because it doesn't fit your narrative? It doesn't matter how fast you cook if your cooking is going to drown the entire population of Fiji does it?
@@crowlord If you think methane release is an issue, then I've got a bridge to sell you. There has been periods in earths history, before humans existed, where it was hotter. In fact, if we look at the results of all the global lockdowns, it has basically had no impact on climate. You'd be surprised how much methane is released naturally and not by humans. In fact, we've recently discovered in the past few years that the natural methane emission on earth is much higher than we thought. Ironically, we're actually due for an ice age, and if man made climate change was a thing, it would be the only thing capable of staving off an ice age. So attempting to stop global warming, could actually lead to an ice age taking hold. The thing people claim will save us, would actually doom us. Fact: It would be foolish to expect the climate to always remain the same. Climate change is natural. Climate on the earth has always and will always change.
This is hitting different in 2023. 😂
Thank you so much for showing all the sources, I am currently doing a presentation about the recent events around gas stoves and you are saving me a lot of time. Those ad clips are so useful.
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@@barbaraescobar1329 keep living in your little bubble honey
How did it go?
You aren't kidding about induction. One time I went over to my friends place to cook. Normally I let the oil heat in the pan before dropping food in, but my experience was that coils (see: old style) would heat the pan slower, and I was still unpacking ingredients when I set the pan on the stove. When I dropped the oil in the pan about two minutes later, it literally caught on fire.
never have a dry pan/pot on an active induction plate!
Holy shit. Lol that would definitely change how I cook. All ingredients out first, turn on the stove and start cooking.
Induction is amazing!! You have to readjust to it. It is quicker and more precise.
I once managed to forget a stainless steel kettle on an induction cooktop. I same to investigate the smell and it was literally red hot. Induction is no joke
You don't know how to cook!
The fact that you chose to set the clocks to 4:20 really shows the amount of thought and effort you put in the videos.
And if you go to 4:20 in the video and look in the lower left, you'll see a tiny explosion effect.
@@ActionScripter Blaze it up!
Lmao how did i not notice? Usually i am the first one to notice. 😀
@@ActionScripter There are deep mysteries in play here. Further viewing may be required.
You can see it at 0:40! That's hilarious hahah
ahead of the news. how prescient. I hope this TH-cam vid blows up in this phony culture war.
As an outsider looking in, this entire debate seems so weird to me. Like "are these people alright in their heads"-weird.
"You know that cooking appliance that takes forever to heat stuff up, spills like 2/3 of it's heat into the kitchen, leaves a residue film on everything in it's vicinity, requires ventilation unless you want to seriously increase the asthma risk in your house and has readily available alternatives without any of these downsides AT comparable prices?
Yeah, let's fucking die in a hill for that!"
Although an epidemic of leaky gas stoves might actually explain this brain rot.
You had me at "induction stoves don't heat the air." There's a heat wave going on right now, and we've been eating sandwiches for dinner because it's too hot to cook.
Open fire not only heats the kitchen up, it uses the oxygen making the kitchen stuffy. Something my mom have always complained about and I discovered it was due to open fire gas stove after having to switch to induction.
I prefer gas stoves, they heat up and cool down faster, you can’t damage or smash the cook top, you don’t have to clean the cooktop as much, if the power is out you can eat warm food. It’s often just as expensive these days as electric. If you spill something it doesn’t immediately form a layer of char on your burner and smoke the kitchen up. And what the fuck is the 1-10 system. What is a 10?
While an induction stove heats the pot directly the pot can transfer heat to the air. This mechanism also makes the stove way safer. If you put your hand or a flammable cloth on the cook top when it's on it will only feel hot if a hot pot has been on it.
@@bill-or-somthingbill4390 induction heat up very quickly. I use gas at home and my mother just got an induction stove. That thing can boil a pot of water so much faster than I can with my gas stove. It is also easier to keep clean because it's a flat surface
@@hannah57 A good tip for boiling water faster is to just have an Electric kettle. Boils water in 30 seconds then just pour it into a pot on the stove
I’m a enormous climate nerd, and nothing on the internet comes anywhere close to your level of research, accessibility, and humor. Excellent work and keep going! Love sharing these with people.
lol this guy doesn't even read the papers he cites and consistently makes factual errors in favor of his argument.
Over the past million years we have been in ice age after ice age. With breaks of about 12k years like the one we are in now. We are at about 14k years currently. Co2 is directly related to plant life and oxygen production. So if you remove the 0.04% of co2 In the atmosphere you remove plants and oxygen. When you get below 200ppm co2 plants die and people become oxygen starved like in our last ice age. Sorry if i ruined ur youtube channel but I scrolled past it 100 time now and its bothering me.
@@appa609 I looked at them as I went along and didn’t find any major issues. Do you have an example?
Still, his video makes more sense than this rambling above about CO2 and plantlife. If all deniers out there would just stop speaking in tongues and start to make som clear points, then there could be some discussion. Instead they just belch out random numbers drawn from a hat, that makes no sense whatsoever.
@@melisboregard go look up the things i presented. Im not a fan of the mega polluters but the things I said are also real. Its ok to be wrong and to research. Just take a look and think about it.
I hope you all know how amazing your channel is. The content, the humor, this is the kind of stuff that people need to make the changes we need to make in the world!!!! Thanks for what you do
Only CHANGE this country needs is to get the withering corpse out of the Oval Office.
In Minnesota gas heat is about 150 for a three bedroom house. Same house switched to electric 600 dollars. So no. This is real bad for the poor. We tried that in the seventies to get away from oil. We can opt to pay more to support wind generation in our area. Which I do. But as for electric heat. Just is not practical unless you fix all the leaky houses which is where the money is best spent. But then in our area those who tightened up their pads were rewarded with radon induced cancer. So remember your radon mitigation while you drop 50k on your remodel so you can afford electric heat. It gets 20 below up here and electric doesn’t cut it in cars or home heating at those temps.
Induction stoves are the best. I have one electric, and a small portable induction one, and I always use the induction
I just binged all of your videos in less than a 24 hour period and I'm god damn impressed. Not only at the amazing comedy, but at the quality of information. I was already blackpilled about US corporations, but you somehow made my opinion of them even worse. Thank you.
Damn son get fucking job/hobby
@@ling636, Shoopman does, he's investing in this knowledge to make sure children born in the 2020s/2030s won't die out before they're 50 years old.
This is why this country sucks, the oil & gas industry (and other corporations) wield immense influence and power over much of American society.
I feel ya... I went from them being ok to being meh to blackpilled to wtf are americans doing with their fucking companies to make them so fucking influential...
Used to be a gas man. Moved into a house with induction last year. I'm converted. Absolutely consistent heat, and easy to clean. The touch buttons are a bit of a pain and shit themselves if they get too wet, but I'm more than willing to put up with it.
Yhea. Pretty much all the people who are here talking about how they prefer gas to induction... haven't used induction.
A relative of mine has an induction stove top with knobs and brilliant to use
Lots of induction hobs are really bad, though. I've used good and bad and I will say the bad ones are the worst cooking method out of all. Good for very low heat and very high but absolutely a disaster for anything in between. So if someone used an induction like the bad ones I don't blame them for their opinion at all.
This aged like wine
Wonder how much flak this video has gotten in the last week 🤔 seeing how the topic is now a culture war issue.
Actually as a former chef, I prefer electric over gas.
Cleaning is why.
Damn! and when you want to reduce the temperature really fast, electric loses every time.
@@amywalker7515 Electric loses???
Agree! I hated when my mom had to clean her gas stove because it would always take so much time. With induction I just have to use one product, and it doesn´t take longer than 10 minutes tops (including the pre-application and after cleansing).
@@amywalker7515 oh jeez, I wonder how my grandma was able to cook(and taught me as well) on the old wood oven plate? Ah yes, she just moved the pan accordingly, man that must be difficult... -.-
On the induction plate is even easier.
Don´t blame your inability to cook on the inanimate stuff.
@@amywalker7515 not with conduction.
I’ve had induction stove for 16 years, I don’t regret it. I have an electrical dryer as well. I still have natural gas for heating. Back in 1995, a neighbor died due to a leaky gas connection behind their gas stove. Their home exploded. It changed my mind.
it changed your mind, but you still have gas for heating? you know that can be leaking too right?
maybe, if you can, get rid of it
YES, YOU SEE ON TV SEVERAL BUILDING EXPLODING FROM A GAS LEAK ONCE IN A WHILE
@@darth0tator Electricity starts more fires that gas appliances ever have. Check with your local fire dept.....
@@jayjaymoassinator7444 Electricity doesn't make your house literally explode if something goes wrong tho.
I've had gas for 30 of my 45 years cooking. I don't know *anyone* who has had a problem. I really hated cooking on an electric stove.
Electrical water heating was crazy expensive. Heating water runs $400 to $600.
Electrical home heating is also crazy expensive. Like $1000 to $1500 per year. And the average is average, electric heating in the US is roughly $838 a year. But that includes states with hydro power which is real cheap. And if you have crazy cheap power... go for it.
My *total* gas bill for all that was $400 last year.
So you are talking $1000 *per* year more for all electric.
My grandma made it fine to 86 with gas stoves. The risk is overblown.
You just have to remember that all of the anti electric propaganda is being funded by the gas industry in all of the anti gas propaganda is being funded by the electric industry.
Thank you for making this video. I was raised around exclusively gas stoves, but I currently own a home with an electric stove. We are making plans to build a house and I assumed I wanted a gas stove... because it's just better...but I watched your video because of the recent controversy surrounding gas stoves. I am open minded enough to take the information on board and change my kitchen plans to an induction stove! Thank you for doing so much research to help us learn!
@@buffalowt5582 Thank you! I'll go check it out.
2 months in, do you have any feedback? Did you get an induction stove? How is it?
@@oskrm We haven't built a house yet but do fully intend to use induction when we do!
@cam I lived half my life in a house with an induction stove(parents house) and now I live in a house with a gas stove - the induction stove is just So Much better, it heats everything significantly faster, no smell, no hot surfaces, no additional risks(gas leaking, health issues, etc) and my mother uses it as a surface extension(kettle usually is on it) because it’s flat and has resistant glass.
@@aliancemd Oh awesome to hear!
“guy trying to do his job” laughed for minutes
As a renter in Sydney I was really happy to find an apartment without gas cooking. It's like a $1 a day for the supply charge before usage and when we just had gas cooking (nothing else gas) our bills were 98% supply charge - it was wild!
Had the exact same issue in brisbane! My sister and i got a whopping $730 bill after living somewhere for two years. Despite literally never turning on the stove top. Luckily we just kicked up a stink to AGL and got it waved
electric is more expensive than gas to cook
@@sdhiousdfyhsdioufsdoiufh Of course it depends on your local prices for gas and electricity, but in Australia (where electricity is fairly expensive) the costs are quite comparable. Gas cooking uses around 12mJ per hour, which is about 65 cents. Many induction cookers use 1500-2000W of power, which will cook faster than gas. But let's go all out and use a 3000W one for argument's sake. This uses 3kWh in an hour, costing 70 cents. So yeah, even using a very power hungry induction cooker in our example, it's still barely more expensive.
But that's not the whole story. If you get rid of gas entirely, you can stop paying your supply charge. This is ~$1 per day. Even if you cook for 4 hours every day, you're still saving 80 cents by moving to electric.
If you use a smaller burner or a lower power setting, electric is even cheaper. If you cook for less than 4 hours a day (which I think most of us do) then electricity is even cheaper. If you live in a country where electricity doesn't cost >$0.23 per kWh, electricity is even cheaper.
Gas just isn't cheaper.
I have gas heat. Everything else is electric. In the summer when I'm not using the heat, the gas company charges me about $15/mo just for the privilege of being connected to the gas mains. And I got served up an ad for that same gas company at the beginning of this video.
I've got the worst of both worlds. Shitty electric cook top, gas hot water.
I cannot believe that John Oliver or Stephan Colbert hasn't tried to hire you as a writer. Love seeing all the sources! I love the way you reported on this story and congrats on earning your degree!
I have a sneaking suspicion he wouldn't be interested even if they did. a lot of the late night shows are just as much of a propagandized outlet for the left as places like fox are to the right.
they dont lie persay, but they sure as hell only tell you the truths they like lol
I totally agree!! Or PBS!
Wouldn't this be counter-productive instead of informing on climate change issues, work for some big corporation that is just propaganda paint coated as comedy?
those shows (and people) are entirely within the liberal reactionary crowd, they're not going to platform someone that is even borderline socialist
I hope he'd say no! Money always changes these kind of things for the worse. Always.
Can't wait for this to pop up in the algorithm
I live in a fully electric apartment and here are the benefits:
- lot lower risk of fire
- no risk of gas explosion
- better indoor air quality
- hot water is SUPER hot out of the tap
- water boils SO fast on induction. Like a huge pot for boiling pasta comes to a rolling boil in less than 5 min. As someone who likes soups and pasta, this is huge. I get so frustrated when I cook on gas stoves now since it takes forever for anything to boil.
- super easy to clean an induction surface.
- kitchen is a lot cooler with induction.
- when I am not using the stovetop, it is another working surface, and in an apartment, any extra counter space is a godsend.
Some things that are annoying:
- you can’t really toss sauté because the induction turns off immediately when the pot leaves the surface
- two of my three cooking surfaces don’t accept all metals, so some of my pots don’t work on all surfaces. Only an issue when I want to use multiple cooktops, and only an issue with one or two pots, so not really prohibitive.
- if I don’t have food in the pan, sometime they float off the heating surface? I don’t know why lol but I would turn around and the pan is like half off the circle, but when I put oil or even a tiny bit of food in it, it doesn’t move so I don’t think it’s a weight thing. If anyone knows why this happens, would love to hear the reason.
On the pans moving, it's because induction works (to vastly oversimplify) by vibrating stuff and magnets. So yeah, it's literally a weight thing as the pan is probably jiggling itself to a less vibration heavy part of the surface.
Or he has a poltergeist, most likely a poltergeist@@PhotonBeast
@@chewielewis4002Maybe each electromagnetic particle is a poltergheist
And when the power goes out, you are focked.
And when your electric goes out you can't, cook, take a hot shower, or heat your home.
Induction stoves are AMAZING, once you get over the initial hump of needing induction-friendly pots and pans, you'll never want to go back.
No wonder the Natural Gas industry is trying so desperately to get people emotionally invested in gas.
That basically a speed bump only aluminum and copper pans don't work.
Cast iron works amazing, any steal a magnet will stick to works.
As a videography nerd, I appreciate that dolley-zoom at the start.
Me too, but not the eating pizza with the personal mic still on. Fhockin Eww !
As someone who loves dolley-zooms and only half watches the screen in video essays, I appreciate this comment.
Not arguing against your statement as such, but I actually reviewed the vid trying to find that sequence but couldn't. If you mean at the very start by the stove, wasn't that just a static camera with a post-production zoom-in? Or perhaps it was irony, but then I missed it, not being from NY :)
@@ipadista lol right?
Prefer electric, but I remember not so fondly getting snowed in for a week with an electric stove and no generator and i ended up having to eat cold cans of food for the whole time. Was an apartment so i didnt have much of a choice in the matter, but during that week I dreamed of having a gas stove. Now I have a house and an electric stove, but a generator along with it. Never again cold beans!!
Precisely. We're rural, have a hefty generator and a huge propane tank (which is harvestedlocally to us). Gas ensures if anything goes sideways with the grid, I can feed my family. I know, gasp! I'm clutching muh pearls and straightening muh tinfoil hat... don't care. We'll have sourdough bread and home-grown beef stew.
I know this is old but I just gotta say the seasonal demographic pairings are actually pretty logical. Hispanic families go hard on Christmas so you tie that into your gas stove cooking big dinner. Designers are busy in spring as people start remodels or do spring cleaning, and people are more likely to buy appliances after tax season is over as refunds come in. Families typically move in summer. And I guess solo types reach peak hipster in fall with flannel and pumpkin flavors.
I don't know how much electricity cost where you guys live but gas here in Italy is waaaaay cheaper than electric both for heating and for cooking: Electricity cost 25c/kWh and gas cost about 2.5c/Kwh. Yes electricity is more efficient but not nearly enough to cover for the cost difference. Until this is the case I don't think you can blame the final user.
Consider also this regarding cooking: induction efficiency is about 90% while gas is only 40% efficient. But we forget that electricity for the most part comes from natural gas (here) and at an efficiency of less than 50%. So when you cook with electricity you are actually cooking at abut the same efficiency and you are actually "burning" gas in the power plant.
I like the videos and I'm all for renewables but you kinda glossed over the more technical aspects. For example non heat pump based electric heating is TERRIBLE for the environment for obvious reason and whether or not electric heating makes sense depends a lot on the different cost of energy. YOu have to show both sides of the medal if you don't want to sound like propaganda.
I want to say yes, but also want to decline your claim. Gas is a garbage byproduct for oil extraction, so using it in households rather than letting it be burned up at oil excav sites is a big plus. Meanwhile cooking with gas is so extremely inefficient, even using ceran fields with electricity is more efficient (and I am not talking about the end user side, gas has to be artificially compacted and pushed into pipelines to get enough pressure to the end user side so a constant flame is achieved and that costs an absurd amount of energy). Meanwhile gas can be extremely evironmentally friendly in comparisson to older techs: in northern europe people still used crude oil to heat their boilers due to its higher energy density up until maybe two years ago (meanwhile that is highly inefficient due to household burners only being able to partially burn oil, leading to unburned long carbonates freed into the air and a lot of carbons cloging the burners). With the increasing gas-to-home infrastructure it is by now standard in northern europe to use gas boilers and gas is incredibly efficient at heating water in a per home centralized burner, not to mention that elseway the gas would have been burned at the excav site as it is still practice in the US and the middle East
@@fatalityin1 bro they burn gas at extraction sites because they can't justify the investment to get that gas to market because gas is so cheap. What you are in favor of is like saying "oh we caught all of these cod but we can't afford to sell these crabs we caught in the same net too so we'll just slaughter them and waste it." The biggest problem with this whole "green" mindset is that people don't understand the entire goal is to REDUCE consumption and conserve resources not just find new ways to waste energy.
Congrats on finishing school dude! And congrats on the video....epic as always!
Induction is a dream . You’ll wonder why you ever used anything else, apart form not having a full size oxen for the ones who like to bake ..
America and Canada has a lot of natural gas heating. It’s what was norm for generations. I find it so funny how Heat Pumps are treated as new technology when it’s been available in other countries like South Korea and Japan for a long time.
Heat pumps are super efficient Air conditioners that can do both cool and warm your home. Setting up Heat pumps in your home is far more energy efficient and cheaper than gas.
The main issue is cost of the up front cost of the heat pump units, mounting hardware, and professional installation. While old school furnaces are built into older homes or into new homes in regions that have a strong connection to natural gas companies, all they got to do is foot the bill for the gas.
Also it’s hard for people to wrap their head around how Heat Pumps work. They understand how heat gets moved from one place to the other. It’s easy for them to understand how it works during the hot summer months where hot air is moved from inside the home to the outside of the home. It’s harder to understand how it can get heat from outside in during the winter. This is what the gas company will use to confuse people who are on the fence for switching. The the short answer is yes it can. This is because there is no such thing as cold. What we think of cold is an absence of heat. And while it can get very cold in some area in US and especially Canada. It never reaches 0 heat energy. This is what scientists refer to as Absolute zero. And it doesn’t even exist on the furthest planets on our solar system. There is always some heat energy even though it looks like the world is freezing over. However their is a limit to how cold a heat pump can work effectively. I believe it’s -40c as that is the temperature at which the refrigerant boils. This is the liquid that makes the heat pump work. It uses its very low boiling point to transfer the heat energy from inside to outside or vice versa
You missed a golden opportunity with the “lonely kid pet rock” bit to use Australia’s PM Scott Morrison when he brought a lump of coal into parliament
that would have been perfect, what a wild video that was
While waving it around espousing the values of clean coal. At the time our environmental minister was also the minister for energy. I feel you may be able to glean a little bit of insight into Australia's future from those sentences.
Yeah really. I hereby call on all climate influencers to launch a massive global effort to take down Scott Morrison. If he's elected again next year ... well, I'm sorry, but we'll be really f***ed.
Ohhh that would have been amazing😂😂😂 #scomo #scottyfrommarketing
BRB gotta go send this video to my parents, literally just had this argument with them, as they are renovating their kitchen. Because my masters thesis on particulate matters effect's on neurological health doesn't count I guess. Idk not optimistic
Where can one read this thesis? Thanks!
Ah damn, good luck with that! In my country (the Netherlands), it is pretty much the consensus that cooking on an electric stovetop is awful, but somehow we also know that cooking on an induction stove is amazing. Pretty good marketing/framing on that one! So I guess you'd have more luck convincing your parents that induction is really nice, than you'd have convincing them that cooking on electric isn't as shit as they believe it to be.
@@WouterNederstigt the most disappointing thing about Netherlands is that they are slow at fighting climate change. Dutch people are not only typically very rational but they also will probably be the most affected by climate crisis of all developed nations. I don't get it why renewables aren't treated with greater urgency there. Groningen even gets earthquakes due to gas extraction and they won't stop. Earthquakes in the Netherlands 😬
As someone who's had to cook semi-professionally on both, induction is WAY better. They won't regret it. Let them know the food industry agrees. See if you have a friend (or maybe yourself when you move out or in another room) would have a use for a single induction "burner" which you can get for not too much to show them the benefits, and focus on those, not the negatives. They clearly care more about the "benefits" of gas cooking than the negatives, and just don't realize the benefits of induction, so focus on those the most. Then give the single "burner" induction stove to the interested person after so it doesn't go to waste
I feel for you, I'm getting my PhD in Sustainability management and I still have the discussions about mass consumerism and intercontinental flights with my parents.
Gas is really only good for something like woks. That said you have inductions to woks too now. Induction is just as reactive, easier to keep clean and in professional setting releases less heat to environment so kitchen doesn't become sweaty mess.
For homes though, induction 100%. Expensive and potentially dangerous gas infrastructure should be phased out. If someone really needs gas, they can buy canisters. Also, it's just safer to use, handles don't heat up and you can't really burn yourself by touching the stove.
The issue with induction is that most are limited to 450F. I have one that hits 525F and its almost an acceptable way to cook steak and chicken. The real selling point of gas to commercial kitchens is temperature. Resistance electric simply isn't more efficient. These days factoring in solar and wind power it is still slightly less environmentally friendly to run resistive electric appliances since most of our power is still coal or nat gas. Hell even Tesla have published numbers (related to the Semi if you want to try and find it) about how the CO2 emissions of their cars are worse than gasoline if ANY coal is being burned. Its break even with nat gas. Great video overall!
I’m also a renter who is stock with a shady landlord. But I got a single induction burner connected on a wall plug, it’s like 60$, and it’s one of the best investment i did in my life. I’m not even talking about the environment, but just how fast this thing is!
I have two now and I'm never going back to ceramic elements or gas.
Ditto. I only regret that I didn’t throw out the old cook top sooner. Fuck this propaganda of the shitty gas lobby.
"My landlord only replies to about 25% of my emails" - What a dick move, I thought. This should literally be illegal, I thought. Things like stonewalling (comparable to the silent treatment) don't just take place in private interpersonal relationships. And being ignored by your landlord should be easy enough to prove.
@@petergoestohollywood382 One way you can avoid being duped by things like this is to question if the issue in question might be a purely national thing. To say to yourself "Hey, I am in the US where everybody uses version B of that thing. But there are also versions A and C. And these versions exist in all of Europe and most of Asia and Africa and many other places. Let's find out what some Austrians and some Spaniard have to say on the issue." These propaganda crusades are often limited to just one region of the world or just one single country. The latter is probably even more often the case. Did you know, for example, that it's a very, very US American thing to be told to view any smartphone that isn't an iPhone as something inherently inferior? Apple must have done something very specific to achieve that in the US.
@@camelopardalis84 It's an American company, so it will always have the home-field advantage in America.
I'm an environmental science university professor and I've shown a few of your videos during my classes- the students love them (as do I). Thank you for the funny, informative, relevant, and engaging content!
Ask your students what they'll do if the wiring fails for any reason at any point, or an electric appliance fails. I got to stay warm when the power went out for 5 days because of my gas stove.
@@Mars-pp9cx Students are very inventive! Who knows what cool ideas they might have. : )
@@Mars-pp9cx Our gas heating doesn't work at all when the electricity is off -- and I think that's pretty common. How did your gas heating work without electricity?
@@Mars-pp9cx You stayed with your freaking stove in a power outage? And THAT is your best reason to keep everything powered by gas? Sheesh. Get a frickin' propane heater for emergencies.
@@incognitotorpedo42 yes. I unfortunately got covid19 and breathing in cold air hurt my lungs significantly. Thankfully I still had hot water and a warm stove. I huddled up next to it as much as I could to stay warm.
The date was February 15, 2021, and I lost power for 5 days.
I agree with a lot of the points made; mainly that electricity will eventually become the primary power source for most things, mostly because it's a highly compatible universal transport for energy.
However... As you mentioned yourself, *most* of our electricity currently gets generated from natural gas. And that generally means a high loss of efficiency (and therefore cost) converting gas to electricity, and transporting electricity down power lines and transformers. So until renewables (which, by the way, wood burning is classified as a renewable) take over, gas will be powering our stoves, whether directly in the stove, or in a power plant.
The second point is that gas serves as an important backup infrastructure to the power grid. When happens if your power grid gets knocked out by a winter storm? In a city apartment building, rapid response, and general heat retention in a large building may be good enough. What about in a house, though? Your home may be without heat for weeks. But if you have a backup gas generator, a gas stove, and gas heating, you can keep living a normal life and not worrying about your pipes freezing and bursting.
This is so relevant right now
I literally was getting close to going in half on a gas range for my house. I was totally sucked into the "it's better than electric, and better for cooking" (plus I'm in a rather old neighborhood with an existing gas hookup, we have electric now). I hadn't really heard much about inductive cooking, and to be honest, I wrote it off as a fad. It's sad how these companies can engineer misinformation, and it actually worked on me to an extent. Thank you for induction pilling me.
I have induction for a year now and i never want to go back. It is so great.
I think it also comes from the fact that many cheap induction stoves can really suck, like when they build a new house's kitchen they pick the cheapest option possible to save a buck, I've seen some made for restaurants that can make a wok reach jet stove levels of heat pretty much instantly, but also ones that take longer than a gas stove to heat up a pan
Induction patented by Westinghouse in 1904
Cool dude remember when the power goes out then you can't cook!
The house I moved into 2 years ago has an induction hob (I have lived in houses with both gas and traditional electric hobs) and I'd never go back
You just changed my impression on "cooking with gas". I figured that the contribution from cooking must be negligible - which apparently it is - but the transportation of gas is a total game changer.
Except it isn't because the transportation of electricity is far worse. Do you know how many superfund sites are old copper mines?
Not to mention the substantial amout of natural gas that leaks from pipes/ stovetops
This dude is the Drew Gooden of climate science
One good thing about gas stoves is that I could cook when the power went out for a week.
We have a newish Samsung electric range and it's super nice. Super fast water boiling and it's easy to maintain the perfect temp when cooking. Don't miss gas at all.
What are you gonna do when the power goes out? My power went out February of this year for 5 days and I had no way to heat my house (Texas deep freeze). Luckily I had a gas stove that I could ignite with a lighter to stay warm. The water bottles in my house froze.
@@Mars-pp9cx If the power goes out, you of course cannot cook any food. But is it really worth having a full fledged gas stove when you can have one smaller gas stove that you use once a year the time the power is actually out.
@@Mars-pp9cx Camping stove..
@@ordinarybread It was 18 degrees outside and I had covid. I couldn't go outside.
I feel like the main advantage and to me the most important point of electrification does not get enough attention. I never see it addressed.
And that is that it _decouples_ energy production from energy usage. It gives you the flexibility to produce the energy in increasingly clean and efficient ways without having to change any infrastructure.
A gas stove can _only_ run on gas. An internal combustion engine can _only_ run on diesel or petrol. They emit CO2 no matter what, you have no choice. But an induction cooker or electric car may run on coal yesterday but can run on wind and solar power today and fusion power tomorrow.
That is why it is important to electrify all the things. Heat pumps instead of furnaces for heating, for example.
Not necessarily. People have been able to modify their ICEes or sometimes straight-up use them with vegetable oil instead, resulting in a carbon-neutral output. We could simply modify existing ICE technology to use greener alternatives for applications when said technology is greatly preferred. Any sub-zero climate, for instance.
“Hispanic Millenials represent the winter” would be one of the more memorable things I’ve heard on the train.
Wow, I had no idea of the ad industry and influencer part. Wtf? It's so weird.
I only have a gas stove because it's what I'm used to from Europe, and I know how to cook on it, and even use it for some projects around the house often enough (heating up nails, brackets, etc.), AND it's instilled in me that during power outages in the winter, we used to still have gas for cooking and heating a decent amount of the house.
Flat top and coil stoves have also terrified me for our cats. I did have some before and the cats could not tell that it was on. They can definitely tell when a burner is on and stay well away.
I have never seen an ad for gas stoves or anything like it. I would LOL so hard at it!
Very interesting video. I hate that the gas industry knows people's preference and somehow gas dryers, central heating, etc end up being cheaper utilities too!
I just Subscribed too :)
Wow, after the pipe leak part... holy crap. I also did not know methane was being released as these leaks keep happening.
Maybe I'm okay taking a hit on gas appliances, as long as I can afford it.
@@OviWanKeno9iI'm curious what country you are from (if you don't mind sharing)
Also this is a really cool channel, glad you found it!
My stepfather worked for the gas company in CA from right out of the military until retirement. The gas co also incentivized their employees by offering gas appliances at almost wholesale prices. I also grew up thinking that gas was superior to electric, but thanks to you we'll be looking into induction for a future appliance upgrade.
Growing up, I was also told that gas was better for cooking but I’ve always loved electric because I hate cooking on an open flame. I have a real fear of spilling grease and burning the house down. Back in 2018 I spent a summer at my cousin’s house in Texas and they had a gas stove. I baked almost all my food and lost 13 pounds.
I’m sticking to flame after trying induction.
It’s not the same. Doesn’t even feel close.
@@tylerbhumphries electric coils ignite grease as well afaik
@@priestesslucy3299 I don’t cook on electric coils. I use glass top electric stoves. They are the step between the coils and induction. If you spill oil on the glass surface (which I have) it’ll smoke but you have time to wipe it up before it ignites. My dad didn’t like them because he couldn’t light his cigarettes on them like he could with a coil burner. My mother is getting old so she’s not as careful as she used to be and my brother is a teenager learning to cook. We’ve had plenty of oil spills and thankfully no actual fires over the pass 10 years. When I was in college we did have a fire because one of my roommates spilled grease onto a hot coil burner when she was making homemade popcorn though. In my opinion the glass tops are safer and much easier to clean. In the house I’m renovating I’m either going to get another glass top or an induction.
Except this ignores losses in generating electricity - turning a turbine loses 60% of the energy involved
I was converted to induction by watching a local patisserie do sugar work with them, outside in October winds at a food festival. Perfectly. And that was just on fairly entry level portables, not the good ones they have in their kitchen. That is real speed and control. They weren't even trying to influence us to go electric, just to buy gorgeous and sinful patisserie (like we needed influencing into that...) I think we're making it illegal in building regs to build a new house with a connection to the gas grid or an oil boiler here in a couple of years, not before time, so looking forward to getting rid of it all.
The most batsh*t insane advertisement for natural gas is a roller coaster called *Fahrenheit* at Hersheypark
What does that ride have to do with natural gas?
1) major props for using the ICP video clip. Only thing better than that song arguably is the SNL version of it.
2) You’ll never convince me electric stoves are better than gas. NEVEEERRRRRR
13:01 you can't do that I'm now self-conscious about my skills of putting things in the trash what the hell man
You will never be as cool as Oh wait it's Danny
!!!!!!! Why are you here Danny???????? !!!!!!!
Let's just say that wasn't the first take.
Don't worry, if you miss the trash it will probably end up in the Sun.
Living in France where induction is the norm, I'm always quite shocked when I see a gas stove, it's always in old house that haven't been upgraded in decades, having no nostalgia whatsoever for gas I always found it hard to understand why anyone would chose cook with it.
Same. It's very haunted Victorian manor chic isn't it.
I've never seen gas stove here in Finland.Before electric stoves we had firewood stoves at 70's.
@@petriruuskanen7804 Mainly used in big cities for example there is a residential gas network in Helsinki. Mainly in parts of the city that have had residential use for a long time. Newly developed residential areas like Jätkäsaari or Kalasatama do not.
Because cooking on an electric stove sucks.
@@Nikki_the_G What Americans think a regular electric stove is, is basically an 80s piece of outdated kitchen equipment. There is absolutely nothing wrong with cooking on a modern electric stove, and they're not too expensive. You can even get an induction plate for as low as 30€ in these parts.
I feel like it's important to acknowledge that going electric is not without downsides, even if said downsides aren't obviously quantifiable. I have both induction and gas stoves at home, and generally prefer using the latter most of the time.
Woks, or round bottom cookware in general don't work well on induction stoves. They don't work at all on my flat one, and even if you have a fancy cooktop with a concave surface just for a specifically sized wok, the fact power output scales terribly with distance means you basically can't flip, shake, or basically touch your wok in any way. My induction top actually pauses itself and beeps angrily if I lift up my flat bottom cookware even moderately, presumably to prevent overheating.
(afaik magnetic field, hence induced current, is inverse to r^2, and then heat is proportional to i^2, which means heat is inversely proportional to r^4. If your "ideal" working condition is like .5cm, if you so much as lift the wok 2cm up, your power reduces by 96%, all of which goes to heating your coils instead.)
As an extension of being able to toss food, with a gas stove you do so with the wok half off the stove and have the food catch fire briefly which imparts a tad bit of smokey flavor. Now is needing to cook with different techniques and not having arguably tasty but definitely carcinogenic smokey flavors in your foods downsides? I'd argue yes, even if not quantifiably so.
This was about a year too soon. How could you afford all those eggs, though?
As someone with old-timey electric at home but with parents that have induction stoves at their place, I can only say the difference is ridiculous. An induction stove can literally boil a pot of water faster than my stove can even get up to temperature. Then when things get on the stove they don‘t really burn in because the stove doesn‘t really get hot.
Induction is just the superior technology in all aspects.
I can’t wait to be told something terrible about the toxic origin of magnetic materials…
Yeah, yeah. Just use a cast iron pan. Iron is ferromagnetic.
And the ferromagnetic bits of your utensil don't have to touch your food. Most of the newer modern non-stick pans made for induction have all sorts of different surface materials, but they all have a visibly different thick bottom layer that rests on the stovetop. That is the ferromagnetic part, and it is thick and heavy for more thermal mass, to help stabilize and distribute the heat, that is then transfered via conduction to the upper part that contacts the food.
Induction heats the pan directly and very fast. And here comes one disadvantage nobody has mentioned. Thin light pans may heat unevenly and too fast causing food to burn in spots. They are only good for cooking soups. If you like to flip/toss food ... well, I don't have enough muscle to do that comfortably with a pan thick and heavy enough to work well with induction.
any calculator site will tell you that national fuel gas is the cheaper alternative to induction ... you may be right about efficiency of cooking but gas will always be cheaper. I'm not about to spend more money on utilities not to mention the cost of switching my appliances to electric/induction/heat pump to save the planet when you have companies that don't give a rats ass about what they do to environment not to mention countries like china and others that will never change how they do things and may be argued that that really cant change how they do things ... i figure i have like 30 yrs at most left to live after that i could care less how you manage the planet ...
you want to save the planet? ... stop having kids
@@-AnyWho This is a perfect example of a terrible response; misses the point of the video, fatalism, "I won't be affected so it's not my problem", factually incorrect information (China actually made a huge step to curb their emissions not too long ago, and either way the comment ignores the complexities of denying developing countries the same resources our own country used on its path to power and prosperity), plus some pithy and completely infeasible admonishment to wrap it up.
Well done on producing a useless and counterproductive hot take.
@@AB-wf8ek no I'm basically saying if large corporations AND countries like china that produce tons of greenhouse gas cant be bothered with the problem cuz it will effect there bottom line when they have the money then why should me (or anyone) that don't have the money to do anything about it, care? i mean, i drive my vehicle like 500 miles a year, i go thru like 200 kwh a month on electric and like on average 45 ccf of national fuel a month to heat home and cook my meals. trust me I'm NOT the one killing planet, all your third world countries and large corporations killing the environments around them are the problem. I'm not about to go out of my way to spend all sorts of cash to live a greener life just to cover there ass. i wasn't the one who put out recycle bins just to realize after that it wasn't cost effective actually recycle the plastic lets just pawn it off on another country or shuffle it under rug somewhere so it can ultimately end up in some ocean, then despite of it think to myself "its to costly for me as the CEO of X corporation to recycle the plastic for our products, it would effect my bottom line, lets keep producing new plastic and we will simply cover our ass by having a world wide meeting on green house gas and try and get the little poor guy to use use a electric lawn mower and solar power and induction stove so us large corporations don't have to make any changes. that's exactly what they want is to get all the families to buy everything new to keep the economy moving in this trying time, why? cuz they are greedy and only think about making more money. if you think this is actually about anything else then your deluded. you want the little guy to care more? than get your large corporations to care more about the environment around them and what impact there greedy policies are doing to environment in general and have all of them set an example for us little folk first...
The first time I cooked on induction I was in an airBNB and I had no idea how hot the pan would get and I both A) scorched the chicken onto the pan so badly it wouldn't come clean and I had to overnight a new pan from Amazon to avoid paying the damage deductible and B) set the fire alarm off and had to air the house out for half an hour. What I'm saying is, induction stoves are OK in my book!
WELL, IF YOU HAVE SMALL BABIES OR CHILDREN, GET AN ELECTRIC OR INDUCTION STOVE, JUST TO BE SAFE
Yes, because there's absolutely no link between electromagnetic fields and cancer! But let me guess, you're not the one doing the cooking so doesn't matter to you does it?
@@milopepper2559 WELL, MAYBE ON THE CELL PHONES AND MICROWAVES, BUT HOUSE FREQENCY IS JUST 60 HERTZ, SO NO PROBLEM, PLUS REMEMBER ALL THE GAS PILOT LIGHTS ON THE GAS STOVES PUTTIN OUT ALL THE CANCER CAUSING GASES NOBODY THOUGH OF THIS DID THEY, ???
@@milopepper2559citation needed??? We live in an electromagnetic field.
@@milopepper2559so aren't you afraid of your phone? It also produces electromagnetic field
@@peciarda No, because I'm not a Kool-Aid guzzling sheep. I understand the science of things like Electromagnetic field strength and how a gauss meter works. Good luck to you!
This is topical today (1/13/2023).
Congratulations on finishing your Master's Degree! I'm really happy for you and I love what you're doing, keep it up!
I'll be honest, gas was a dream of mine; I didn't have it but I wanted it. Speed and control were highly desirable. This video educated me and changed my mind. Love your style, keep it up.
I still want a gas stove. But it will take a kitchen remodel.
I used to love gas, until I tried induction. It's better in every way.
Induction heats a pan faster than gas and can go down to a slow simmer without a hotspot in the middle
@@johnransom1146 It also randomly cuts out whenever it decides the pan is too far away or you spill a bit of water on it.
Gross ass inefficient gas all the way.
I cook commercially, I worked a kitchen with induction and it was the most terrible experience I ever had with cooking. It was better than any normal electrical range I used before. But trying to make omelets and sauces on the induction was just bad.
It’s the years of technique built around holding the pan off the surface of the range to better control the temperature affecting the pan.
Induction is straight full heat with contact of the range surface or no heat. That is lame as hell.
There was a time when I actually did strongly prefer gas stoves because my neighborhood's electricity often would go out and we'd still be able to cook food, but after they did work on the grid it barely happens anymore. I still like the option of that emergency cooking, but in that case I can just go get a campfire burner. And hearing that induction stoves don't emanate heat will be probably all I need to convince my dad. Thanks for the video!
Dislikes are from Hank Hill
Also, a recent study showed that gas stoves themselves leak a noticeable amounts of methane even when closed, adding another 1.3% to those 9% fugitive emissions. And causing a bunch of health complications of their own.
so i guess most of the 9 million people in NYC have these health complications. oh wait.
9% fugitive emissions? Mmm...Not impossible I suppose. Seen one or two gas leaks on oil rigs myself. I suppose they'd leak a few 100 litres per day. I've seen 100million scf/day flared during a well test, that'll melt an oil rig without a deluge system. 9% fugitive emissions on a good gas well 9million scf/day, that'll still blow you into orbit with a spark. I think 9% is bollox. There was a widely cited study showing the methane emissions from fracking completions. It was laughable. Unless you think fracking crews are suicide bombers!
@@BobRooney290 huh?
@@BobRooney290 You're correct
That is another line of bullshit of the wokies.
I'm a 70 year old lady who grew up cooking on gas stove switch to an induction stove 5 years ago and I find cooking with it is more superior than using gas. Heats up more quickly and you can keep even temp. while cooking . Just love my induction stove
There's another video which points out the problem with magnet size and cooking around the edges of large pans. Is this an issue?
My gas is out right now because the utility company is doing maintenance. 😅
found this channel through a reaction video! love the personality and the style :) great stuff.
Ya know, having not grown up with gas ovens they seem kinda insane to me.
Like, it's _literally_ an indoor fire.
its not only an open fire but also either a highly pressurised gas container that could explode any time now and has to be replaced from time to time and also is heavy af or a gas pipe that can be leaky suffocate you to death or fucking burn the whole house down!"!!! WHAT THE FGUCK!?
Your house gets toasty when you use them. I find my gas stove useful when we lost electricity for a few days during a winter storm
I grew up with a gas oven and range, and it definitely seems insane to me. I don't even like candles, I for sure don't want open flames in my kitchen on the regular.
An indoor fire to burn your meat slabs on? Caveman like. Gas stoves really put the fossil in fossil fuel industry.
I had the same response. Also with fireplaces. Why are people obsessed with having open flames in their increasingly flammable houses?
Love cooking on my gas stove, but when I got air purifier, it's goes alarm crazy every time I cook... So, you are right.
You need better ventilation. It's not the gas setting it off, it's the fumes from the cooking.
I agree with Matt. Our electric cooker has the same effect on our new air purifier. It's not the gas in this case.
@@raulinurminen7299 maybe, I'll put the gas cooker on without anything on, just to see if it is going to have the same effect.
I was born in a town about nuclear powerplant. So we have super cheap electric energy (in Russia any energy is cheap, but we have it twice cheaper) and in whole town literally was not a single gas stove - everyone use electric. So I saw gas stove first time when I was 12 or so and was wondering "who the hell and what for uses such dangerous and ineffective heating methods? You lose like 50% of heat because of big temperature
Induction is where its at. I would never switch.
What I am REALLY surprised to not see was the amount of work it takes to clean the latest/greatest gas stove versus the latest/greatest induction stove? Yes I am glad we have an electric stove at home, but before all of this bad news about the harmful effects of gas IN THE HOME, I preferred the electric stove just because it was so much easier to clean. And I am a guy: I HATE CLEANING.
Oh god yes. I have a gas stove now that is particularly hard to clean. It's clean for a few days every few months and then it's disgusting again. I'd still rather use gas over crappy electric hobs (I've never really used a good electric hob and I lived somewhere for 3 years once that had a REALLY crappy electric hob) , but I am soooo going induction when I can...
And so often the damn tops are white! Ffs, you know shit's going to get spilled and then turn to ash there. Don't make it so that every bit of charred carbon left there is going to be an eyesore!
Who decided that bright white was the appropriate finish for that part of that appliance???
@@dynamicworlds1 because they get dirty faster and easier so you're more likely to buy a new one sooner
@@the77eltigre possibly, but note I never asked "why" only "who"
im curious how you cook if you mess up your stove that badly. A simply wipe down of the stove every few weeks takes less than 5 minutes. Electric glasstop burned everything on and was impossible to clean and scratched way too easy. Induction doesnt burn on as much but still scratch.
I'm sold! I bought into this gas cult from working in the restaurant business but I am going to seriously look into induction when I need to switch equipment. You changed one mind here!
This video came out over a year ago and yet only a few months ago the press started reporting on a "recent study" about the dangerous health effects of gas stoves, particularly on children. Everyone was talking about it and I was confused as I thought it had already long been common knowledge.
5:02 In my area, the power company requires you to have 2 points of use minimum before they will supply your house. More to that point they need an anchor point, which cannot be a gas stove conveniently enough, in fact the only things that can be considered (in Florida) are water heaters and......... that's it because furnaces are not used in Florida, pool heaters are "Luxury" applications, and stoves and generators aren't utilized enough to be considered. So the reason they advertise grilles is not just because they may get you to also buy the candy bar on the way out... it because they know you are required to buy the candy bar on the way out.
HUGE benefit of induction you didn’t mention: so much easier to clean!!
Can't tell you how much I look forward to your videos. Makes me feel a little less alone in my climate work. Even my wife, my wife, doens't think it is that big of an issue. Anyway I feel less crazy when I listen to you.
As someone who's rented about 10 different homes and apartments over a 12-year timeline, I've experienced both gas and electric stoves in a variety of settings. The only thing gas had going for it was the romance of feeling like a "real chef." In actuality, it was slower to heat, difficult to get a low flame to stay on, and hot as hades to be around! Plus, I haven't been around a gas stove yet that was easy to clean. But I do have to say that in those homes, the gas home heating was much nicer. It actually felt warm coming out of the vents as opposed to electric heat (heat pump) which felt cool coming out of the vents even when the heat was on. The gas heat warmed faster, felt "softer and gentler" somehow, and was quite a preferable experience. Not preferable enough that I want to heat up the planet... but if there's a way electric furnaces or heat pumps could mimic that, that would be a major sales pitch for them, I'd think.
I have heat pumps, and they are faster than gas... Because here, everyone uses radiators for heat, and ductless AC pumps out way more wattage than radiators
If you are using ducts and pumping out heat, it is hard to compete with the power of a furnace. Increased power for gas is trivial in costs, but very expensive for a heat pump. Ductless ACs are probably the best since they can pump heat into each room individually, so the internal unit can be relatively powerful compared to the outdoor unit.
@purpleturtle9502no, induction ranges are by far the fastest to boil water. Gas has absolutely no chance to compete, because the gas can't transfer heat into the pot quickly enough. A good inductance range can sink about 2kW into a single pot; and they usually have a fast boil option which keeps the heat on continuosly. This is a seperate setting because it would completely anihilate anything in a frying pan (too hot).
Older glass ceramic ranges use infrared radiation to heat the pot, they are about as fast as gas but less dynamic (turning heat on/off has some delay).
The only real slow ones are the old cast iron electric ranges. They rely on a mix of conductance and infrared, and thus are the least enjoyable to use. They are outdated as heck; I haven't seen one in real life for decades.
@purpleturtle9502amen. I wondered why the shitty on off cycle instead of a reostatically controlled constant.
@@joecliffordson Because of physics. The element is tuned to maximize IR emission. That only happens a particular power level/black body temperature. If you lowered the power of the element you'd get a drastic drop off in IR which means you'd only get heating by convection from the element, through the air trapped in the stove and then through the glass cook top. This would be super slow and inefficient. Instead you cycle the element on and off at it's most efficient power level to hit an average lower power output over time.
@@disjustice I understand. Thank you. I have spent some time watching reviews. It seems gas is hard to beat for brazing and frying. I think a combo with an iron induction for boiling and gas for control would be a step in the right direction. We just got an auxiliary burner. The big complaint I have is the pan warping that inductive heating creates. Really just need a pan the right size
That behind-the-back People's Elbow into the trash was sweet
I saw this on Sach and Jessie's "NowYouKnow" channel, and I really agree with you. We have been using Induction ovens for quite some time, and it is clean, very fast and efficient with no smell or emissions of any kind, and we are very fortunate not to be paying a gas supplier a lot of money to install a potential gas bomb in our house, that pollutes and poison us every day.