I've had two R1250rs and have enjoyed them immensely, last year I crossed over to the R1250r, no regrets. In my humble opinion it's undeniably more fun to ride and handle, probably a more versatile bike. Put a fly screen on it to help the wind blast and you are good to go on tour. PS. Don't tell everyone, its BMWs best kept secret!
I have ridden one from new for 3 years now. Wear ear plus, you will not notice the wind blast. Fairings take away the naked bike experience. If I want wind protection, I drive my car.
I Ride BMWR850R from 2001 in 3rd geer. No problems. The Old Girl has the power too. Stil love my BMW. Got here 2 years ago with 24000 km on clock. Have 40000. Good Rider every Day. Love my BMW R850R. ❤❤❤.
I have one of these in triple black, a small screen on her and gs hand guards on her ... what a fantastic fabulous bike. Living in Yorkshire has some amazing roads to ride on such a flickable bike
I've had the 1250RS this last couple of years & really enjoyed it. Euro trips, NC500, commuting etc, etc. I've recently traded it for this, the 1250R. I was loned an R when the RS had its main service & realised straight away, the R is a much better handling bike, no wrestling it into corners, not that I really realised at the time, but after the R, defo had to wrestle the RS, the R just goes into corners, nice n easy. I recon its all down to the front axle, it's the only difference I can see. On the RS, the axle is kicked out an inch or more from the bottom of the forks, making it more stable. The axle on the R is directly beneath the forks, making the steering effortless & more Fun..... Also, my Hepo Co Xceed panniers go straight on for Spain trip in a few months... 👍👍👍
By Dan’s commentary, it’s obviously a damned good bike! This is probably one of the best advertisements for a bike I have watched! Great video, Dan 👏👏👏
The R has always been an underrated bike, always in the shadow of the RS and the GS. That said it looks like those roads really flatter the bike, cant see it being so much dynamic fun on the UK's poorly maintained chilly roads with questionable grip for 85% of the year.
My mate has one of these, just the 2021. He loves it, but it's got enough electronics to fly a spaceship! Just watched your TL1000s review from a year ago, and I'd love to see more old/classic reviews from you Dan. My special request would be the RSV Tuono gen 1... Very cool bike that doesn't have any good reviews for it
Your reviews are proper fun Dan. I've just swapped my much loved vstrom for a r1200r lc and luuuuuuv the torque. Fantastic handling with mega controllable brilliant power. Gonna add 25mm return on the bars for more relaxed all day riding 🌠
That is nice!!! My last bike was an 1100R, and before that I had 2 x 1100RT, a 1200RT, and my first beemer was an 1150GS...... I just loved the lazy torque and the handling. Steve
Torque is an underrated feature. I have a R1250R, and in the past a GSXR750R. One works the Suzuki engine to get the power. The BM just delivers even at low revs. Dont even need to drop gear to overtake, it just pulls. Different riding style, if one likes that of course. I never rev the engine above 4000 rpm, no need.
At public roads speeds, the R1250R has pretty much the same performance figures as a ZX10 (acceleration times, which tests a range of bikes and cars). I bet also that it handles better too. I have one, and it was for me £217 to insure last year, the cheapest ZX10 quote was £1050. I have been riding bikes since 1979, and the BM is the best, it never lets me down, except it often does not start in really cold weather, which does upset me. My BM dealer admitted it is an issue with the bike (all 1250s) and one needs to buy a specialist battery charger.
Yep a do it all fun bike. I have the older R1200R so not as many toys ☹️ but i live in Spain 😁 so not too bad then. Collecting from UK next week to ferry/ride home over a few days.
Rode an R1250R 9 years ago and it was brilliant then (had an R1200R at the time). Only issue for me is I couldn’t bend my knees (post surgery) enough to be comfortable. Must take a look again.
I was disappointed with an R1200R loan bike a good few years ago. Guess the 1250 pepped it up a lot. So maybe I'll give the R1300R a go - likely a year away sadly.
Should have got one of these instead of the 1250 GS as i only ride on the road and im a short arse. However it just didn't come on my radar. Tried the RS but that was too sporty and cramped. Bit pissed off that the dealership never brought the R to my attention.
I've got a 28 inside leg ... you can get a low seat version for it, and I'm flat footed on it ... I love my 1250R (triple black) and a small screen and hand guards like a gs has.
@chrislecouteur2360 Funnily enough with just my 30 inch leg I can flat foot my standard GS, but just find it a bit bulky for what I need. I found a nice R last year with a tall screen and colour coded panniers like an RS which if it hadn't involved losing money on a trade in I would have gone for.
I don’t understand riding modes 😂. Other than rain mode for a specific situation, it should be full power at all times. Control it with the THROTTLE HAND. What’s with multiple rider modes that do nothing but handicap the engine? I just don’t get it. Bikes were so much cooler in the 90s…
@@Englishbikerdan I know I’m in the minority in this, but why have 60% modes and 80% modes, etc. If it’s too much power, get a smaller bike. The engine should never be handicapped. Kind of baffles me that people like this.
@@madrat5176 The only mode affected with reduced power % is eco mode; rain, road, dynamic and dynamic-pro are all at 100%. It’s the throttle action that varies, in other words, the amount of “twist” required.
@@garethcoombs1622 You still mentioned three that reduces power, and then two that still alters throttle response. Why have two different modes that alter throttle response 😂. It’s such overkill that’s there just for the sake of being there
@@madrat5176 No, no, you’ve misunderstood my rather garbled message. What I meant to say is that the only mode that has reduced power is ECO mode but all the other modes use full power. To complicate things, on the R1250R you are only allowed to program 4 out of the 5 modes so probably most riders don’t bother with the ECO.
I cannot wait for the R 1300 R (later this year, if BMW has some sense). 12kg lighter, 10hp and 6Nm peppier, more advanced electronics... I'll be all over that thing.
Is it your camera or is the 6.5” clocks very Very far away to from the rider? In a bit of sunshine they wash out nearly as bad as a Yamaha. Interesting bike though. Not my cup of tea but interesting. Video? You make them interesting as always Dan
Bmw designed the most vanilla looking ass headlight and now they are pulling it out of the parts bin and putting on every bike they can. s1000r, f900r, the new f900gs and now this thing.
Maybe on the flight over at least do a little homework on the bikes you’ll be riding; saying aloud ‘Are all BMW boxers shaft driven?’ Isn’t good form.. It amazes me that apparently anyone can (you’re not alone) get a ride and churn out such mediocre non informative drivel, and expect to gain subscribers. Some advanced riding instruction wouldn’t go amiss either.
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Those roads and that sky! Everyone raves about the old models of their bike. This looks very good
Yeah, its a famous area of Spain where many of the classic westerns were filmed.
I've had two R1250rs and have enjoyed them immensely, last year I crossed over to the R1250r, no regrets. In my humble opinion it's undeniably more fun to ride and handle, probably a more versatile bike. Put a fly screen on it to help the wind blast and you are good to go on tour. PS. Don't tell everyone, its BMWs best kept secret!
I have ridden one from new for 3 years now. Wear ear plus, you will not notice the wind blast. Fairings take away the naked bike experience. If I want wind protection, I drive my car.
Now you have told us the secret. Thanks for the heads up hehehe
I had a R1200R Sport for 3 years. A massively underrated and under the radar bike. BMW's forgotten man.
a very underrated bike, I have the 1200 version from 2017 and it simply does everything I need
I have the 1100 version from 2000 and it simply does everything I need
Wow those roads!!! Just realised be riding those again next week on the 990 Duke! 🎉
You lucky devil! Enjoy the trip! 👌
Whos that cool dude in full leathers infront 😎😎 great review Dan and brilliant trip!!!
I Ride BMWR850R from 2001 in 3rd geer. No problems. The Old Girl has the power too. Stil love my BMW. Got here 2 years ago with 24000 km on clock. Have 40000. Good Rider every Day. Love my BMW R850R. ❤❤❤.
I have one of these in triple black, a small screen on her and gs hand guards on her ... what a fantastic fabulous bike. Living in Yorkshire has some amazing roads to ride on such a flickable bike
Great review again Dan 👏
Those road's certainly beat the pothole ridden, salt and mud infested road's of Hampshire.
Nice job buddy 👍 😊
Cheers Dean!
How do they survive those winters? Occasionally they must have to put a light jacket on to beat the cold!
Many years ago my GS was in for a service and they lent me the R model. I absolutely loved it.
I've had the 1250RS this last couple of years & really enjoyed it. Euro trips, NC500, commuting etc, etc.
I've recently traded it for this, the 1250R. I was loned an R when the RS had its main service & realised straight away, the R is a much better handling bike, no wrestling it into corners, not that I really realised at the time, but after the R, defo had to wrestle the RS, the R just goes into corners, nice n easy.
I recon its all down to the front axle, it's the only difference I can see. On the RS, the axle is kicked out an inch or more from the bottom of the forks, making it more stable. The axle on the R is directly beneath the forks, making the steering effortless & more Fun.....
Also, my Hepo Co Xceed panniers go straight on for Spain trip in a few months... 👍👍👍
Yep, geometry can make a big difference to the handling.
@@Englishbikerdan yes, i confirm this point of difference between R and RS
The RS also has a longer wheelbase.
By Dan’s commentary, it’s obviously a damned good bike! This is probably one of the best advertisements for a bike I have watched! Great video, Dan 👏👏👏
Thanks! It was a hoot to ride!
I owned an R1200R. It’s a very capable bike, great to ride, and massively underrated.
The R has always been an underrated bike, always in the shadow of the RS and the GS. That said it looks like those roads really flatter the bike, cant see it being so much dynamic fun on the UK's poorly maintained chilly roads with questionable grip for 85% of the year.
Is this coming from a GS owner?😅
Cracking review Dan, but could I ask if you had both sets of keys for the R1250R and the S1000R and the same road to ride which bike would you take?
Thanks Nick, tough one as both are good. Probably the R120R as I love the low torque!
Which road is that? That's stunning
My mate has one of these, just the 2021. He loves it, but it's got enough electronics to fly a spaceship!
Just watched your TL1000s review from a year ago, and I'd love to see more old/classic reviews from you Dan. My special request would be the RSV Tuono gen 1... Very cool bike that doesn't have any good reviews for it
Your reviews are proper fun Dan. I've just swapped my much loved vstrom for a r1200r lc and luuuuuuv the torque. Fantastic handling with mega controllable brilliant power. Gonna add 25mm return on the bars for more relaxed all day riding 🌠
That is nice!!!
My last bike was an 1100R, and before that I had 2 x 1100RT, a 1200RT, and my first beemer was an 1150GS...... I just loved the lazy torque and the handling.
Steve
Torque is an underrated feature. I have a R1250R, and in the past a GSXR750R. One works the Suzuki engine to get the power. The BM just delivers even at low revs. Dont even need to drop gear to overtake, it just pulls. Different riding style, if one likes that of course. I never rev the engine above 4000 rpm, no need.
At public roads speeds, the R1250R has pretty much the same performance figures as a ZX10 (acceleration times, which tests a range of bikes and cars). I bet also that it handles better too. I have one, and it was for me £217 to insure last year, the cheapest ZX10 quote was £1050. I have been riding bikes since 1979, and the BM is the best, it never lets me down, except it often does not start in really cold weather, which does upset me. My BM dealer admitted it is an issue with the bike (all 1250s) and one needs to buy a specialist battery charger.
Yep a do it all fun bike. I have the older R1200R so not as many toys ☹️ but i live in Spain 😁 so not too bad then. Collecting from UK next week to ferry/ride home over a few days.
Did you try Dynamic Pro mode and if so, did it pop and gurgle on over-run? (my S1000R does and love that)
I did and it did a bit, but not as much as the S1000R.
Rode an R1250R 9 years ago and it was brilliant then (had an R1200R at the time). Only issue for me is I couldn’t bend my knees (post surgery) enough to be comfortable. Must take a look again.
The R1250R didn’t appear until 2019 in the UK, 2020 in the U.S.
How does it compare to the 1000xr bmw ?
I was disappointed with an R1200R loan bike a good few years ago. Guess the 1250 pepped it up a lot. So maybe I'll give the R1300R a go - likely a year away sadly.
(hopefully that R1300R doesn't get passed over given the retro R12 nineT thingy overlaps it)
Should have got one of these instead of the 1250 GS as i only ride on the road and im a short arse. However it just didn't come on my radar. Tried the RS but that was too sporty and cramped. Bit pissed off that the dealership never brought the R to my attention.
I've got a 28 inside leg ... you can get a low seat version for it, and I'm flat footed on it ... I love my 1250R (triple black) and a small screen and hand guards like a gs has.
@chrislecouteur2360 Funnily enough with just my 30 inch leg I can flat foot my standard GS, but just find it a bit bulky for what I need.
I found a nice R last year with a tall screen and colour coded panniers like an RS which if it hadn't involved losing money on a trade in I would have gone for.
I don’t understand riding modes 😂. Other than rain mode for a specific situation, it should be full power at all times. Control it with the THROTTLE HAND. What’s with multiple rider modes that do nothing but handicap the engine? I just don’t get it. Bikes were so much cooler in the 90s…
You don't have to use them, so just stick it in Dynamic Pro and forget the rest. I think it's good to have more options should you want them.
@@Englishbikerdan I know I’m in the minority in this, but why have 60% modes and 80% modes, etc. If it’s too much power, get a smaller bike. The engine should never be handicapped. Kind of baffles me that people like this.
@@madrat5176
The only mode affected with reduced power % is eco mode; rain, road, dynamic and dynamic-pro are all at 100%. It’s the throttle action that varies, in other words, the amount of “twist” required.
@@garethcoombs1622 You still mentioned three that reduces power, and then two that still alters throttle response. Why have two different modes that alter throttle response 😂. It’s such overkill that’s there just for the sake of being there
@@madrat5176
No, no, you’ve misunderstood my rather garbled message. What I meant to say is that the only mode that has reduced power is ECO mode but all the other modes use full power. To complicate things, on the R1250R you are only allowed to program 4 out of the 5 modes so probably most riders don’t bother with the ECO.
GREAT REVIEW !! Does it handle better than my new Hayabusa ?
No comparison between the two. I have the gen 3 Busa, and the R spanks it in the corners.
wow you mentioned the load capacity ;-] good job
Thanks!
i have the same one, ans it's just a fabulous bike 😀
I own a 2020 1250R after a KTM 1290. Love the BMW don't miss the KTM.
What happened?
@@JelloThatsMellow Reliability nonsense, probably. Those Austrians are fun to ride but terrible to own.
I cannot wait for the R 1300 R (later this year, if BMW has some sense). 12kg lighter, 10hp and 6Nm peppier, more advanced electronics... I'll be all over that thing.
BMW is obsessed with the letter R …
Should bring out the R-RR 1000 RR-RRR (pirate spec.) 😂
My favoritte BMW - never riden it but the looks and type 😀
Is it your camera or is the 6.5” clocks very Very far away to from the rider? In a bit of sunshine they wash out nearly as bad as a Yamaha.
Interesting bike though. Not my cup of tea but interesting.
Video? You make them interesting as always Dan
Sorry it Is much better than a Yamaha
Yeah it wasn't super close to the bars but very readable even in the sun. 👍
God damn boi, you have grown (in some ways 😉) since I last watched! Lets catch up for a beer
I'll never fully grow up! 😂 A beer you say? Hit me up!
An R1300R must be imminent. I expect all the old stock will have to go before that's released.
I hope so! Should be naughty!
But this took place nearly a year ago though, didn’t it😮
Exactly what I was thinking. Dan must have forgot he went on the bike launch.. err last year🤔
Still valid today, bike is the same.
this or street triple hmm
Very different bikes, both good in their own right.
KTM 790/890/990 or derivatives. If they had Japanese reliability we’d all be on ‘em!
Blimey, did this footage have moths on it? ;)
Maybe! :D
Bmw designed the most vanilla looking ass headlight and now they are pulling it out of the parts bin and putting on every bike they can. s1000r, f900r, the new f900gs and now this thing.
I quite like it, certainly better than the previous gen.
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I have a 19 model ---better than the GS.
Be carefull bud . don.t duck a bmw it may bite you . !!!
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BMW bike's design move in a wrong direction for sure. The same seemingly aggressive ugly cuts and angels as on their boring cars. It's a dead end.
I think they've improved. Goes to show we all like different things.
Riding modes, semi-suspension….no thanks. Next ….
Plenty of bikes to choose from then! :)
Maybe on the flight over at least do a little homework on the bikes you’ll be riding; saying aloud ‘Are all BMW boxers shaft driven?’ Isn’t good form.. It amazes me that apparently anyone can (you’re not alone) get a ride and churn out such mediocre non informative drivel, and expect to gain subscribers. Some advanced riding instruction wouldn’t go amiss either.
Thanks for watching! :)
Garbage riding - get yourself classes before it catches up with you…
Ah thanks for the concern! :)