It’s really astonishing how Ultor can evict everybody from their apartments who were living in the Saints Row’s territory way back in 2006 and get their homes bulldozed so everybody could have a clear view of the Phillips Building.
Governments do that all the time irl when building stuff like highways. Usually they end up bulldozing entire sections of poor/and or black neighborhoods to build stuff that the people there don't want
It can happen in real life too. I live in a neighborhood where it was crime and hoods. Then out of nowhere the rent on the house went sky high and peoples stuff were outside the houses. Then a year or two later my neighbor started building new houses, and people who were moving in had big money. I had people trying to get me to sell the house but I declined all offers. Then I started seeing new restaurants and areas being built in the neighborhood and community. Long story short they literally kick everybody out except for some that can still pay it and built everything around us.
Yea I miss all the freckle bitches, diners, and the clothing stores(as well as the musics). Stillwater only has stuff from ultor/saints(later Zin) clothing store apparently, it gets mundane after a while. Though the gun customization in SR3 & SR4 is really fun, you can make a laser blaster from the default gun options in SR4.
I started with SR2 and played SR1 later. When I played SR1 for the first time I vaguely recognized the areas but playing SR2 right after the first is a shock to the system when looking at the city as a whole
This one exit from saints row that goes under the highway and zags back and forth gets me every time, and I’m positive it’s paved straight through in 2. Also, muscle memory is taking me into dead ends because I’ve played 2 so much that 1 i feel lost in. 😅
I fell like thats the point. Stillwater in Saints Row 2 has been corporatized due to the influence of Ultor. So it makes sense that every thing would look all grey and corporate compared to the first game.
SR2’s updated map felt like such a natural progression and made a lot of places feel fresh. It would have been very easy for Stilwater to become stale before 2 even released.
@@kitcloudkicker14 Steelport is definitely based on Pittsburgh. Trust me I know. They said Stilwater is based on Chicago and Detroit because of their huge gang violence.
No only they are more buildings, places and stores in SR2, but also a lot of density of people and cars. You can tell that after the success of the first SR, Volition make enough money to update all Stillwater.
It's hilarious to see how well they nailed the rust belt industrial city in SR1 only to use none of the lessons Stilwater taught in Sr3, my god Steelport sucks in comparison.
That's the sad part. They tried to emphasize the rust belt aspect in steelport and at times I could see it with some of the housing but they didn't really utilize it, same thing happened with the reboot. They simply made steelport and SI a setting and they tell you what's happening vs showing you via the environment or NPCs. Stilwater was alive and a character in itself. I can tell you about stores and places unrelated to missions and places you can't even enter in stilwater like the neighbors with the identical houses but one is messy, grass is uncut and Christmas lights are still up. That artist who is Shaundi's friend more than likely living in the trailer park due to the statues their. Steelport... That huge church, the casinos, I guess the park. Was there even a police station or prison there?
unfortunately volition is completely different people than it was 15 years ago. And you can definitely tell it when you compare these old classics to that cringe woke reshit
@@SelectDevotee68at least it seems fair hard, excepting the Rollerz mission where you gotta get to that last truck, and the last Los Canales mission where you gotta line up a shot while someone is driving and if you get blown up, you die and have to restart and you just wish Dex would forget the RPGs and let me shoot at the damn plane, but whatever.
Personal theory: in SR1 stilwater is smaller than in SR2, Ultor moved in and gentrified saint's row, but I'm guessing they also added extra mass to the area in order to build more living areas as well as funded the remodeling of several areas of the city, that earthquake Gat mentioned did some noticeable damage which gave ultor the perfect excuse to remodel and possibly expand on a LOT of the city, and win the local government and people over as the Hughes initiative to gentrify the les desirable parts of the city was slowly turned into the Ultor initiative. So all their willingness to spend what seems to be literal millions to fix and remodel large amounts of the city helped them set a foothold since you can literally see their logo almost everywhere.
there were two quakes. the one that dropped the saint's hideout in SR2 happened 40 years before the events took place, while the one that sunk the docks from SR1 happened while the playa was in a coma
The land was already there but was very hilly. Idk if Simcity type terraforming is a real thing but that's what it reminds me of lol. Also I don't think it's ever stated in game how much time has actually passed. I always assumed it was like 20 years or something with how much things changed and how much the returning characters aged. I know canonically the devs did say at some point it was 5 years, which I guess is possible but damn that's a LOT of change for 5 years, plus people like Gat, Julius, Troy, and Dex all look a lot more than 5 years older than in the first game.
@@realCyng Gat looks more or less the same. Troy too, only he’s in a cop uniform and ditched the circle beard for a mustache. Dex and Julius both look like they’ve seen better days though.
I really like Stillwater. because it feels like a city you would see in real life and its not inspired by the most popular US cities like New York, Los Angeles or Miami. Steelport didn't feel as unique to me.
It really does feel like an actual city. There are differing districts, realistic distances and scope, parks and playgrounds, not just buildingsbuildingsbuildings like steelport. It actually shocked me how realistic the vibe was.
@@ryantabor9582 SR1 doesn't feel real though. It's a bunch of the same buildings smooshed together and a lack of tunnels and alleys. It feels like a maze especially with the random dead ends.
@@Ayaki6166 if you think about it he wanted absolute control over the city and he proves it by killing the damn executives and thinking he has a chance with the playa
Saints Row 2's Wardill Airport is actually re-used from a beta build of Saints Row 1 - the interior was used for a multiplayer mission in SR1 as well. Side note, On-Track looked way cooler in Saints Row 1.
What's really sad is that if The Vice Kings followed King and not Warren and Tanya they truly couldve been the most powerful gang (2:02)in Stillwater. Instead they influenced the saints
I really wish there were more Saints Row Map comparisons. Saints Row 2 Stillwater,to this day,is my favorite open World Sandbox in any game I've ever played next to Just Cause 2's Panau Island. All I've ever wanted is further expansions on this Map by way of a 4th Landmass area accessible by Bridges,New Customizable Cribs via Aishas House/The Price Estate/The Lopez Mansion/Benjamin King's tower/a crib on the Nuclear Power Plant Island. I'd settle for a Remastered Saints Row 2 for Ps4 instead of forcing me to pay for it via Ps Now.
Man I fucking love Stilwater. Place felt like home. Having Ultor gentrify it was such a great way to set them up as the villains. I can't believe we went from this to boring ass Steelport 😂
Crazy how a clothing company like Ultor basically gentrified almost a whole city. Kind of like how Amazon, a shipping company, has tried to do the same thing on a national level.
am i really the only person that thinks SR1 looks better in a lot of places? the activity cutscenes are way more polished, the night seems to be a lot darker whereas in SR2, the night really wasn't that dark, character models and clothes seem to look better in SR1, i like 2, but 1 does seem to look a little better with some things
Yeah, the lighting, weather, sky seem to be equalized in SR2 through a very smoggy looking filter. It affects not just the map, but the character models too. It’s still a great game, and probably the best in the series, but graphically it felt like a step from the new era in gaming (Saints Row 1), back to the PS2. I otherwise enjoy all the changes and the story behind it. Perhaps they’d explain away the filter and dulling of the lighting system to increased air pollution from all the expansion in the city, and that’s fair. But it all gives me a reason to go back to Saints Row 1 and appreciate it too. Plus it’s criminal that they got rid of the movie theaters. Those were such an innovative way to go back and play missions. Something lame about just going to your TV and doing it.
imo sr2 graphics has a better realistic approach but the colors look so bleached down compared to sr1 and the npc look similar to your character in sr2 i think out of all saints rows sr2 needed the remaster the most
Personally I actually prefer the reboot to 3 or 4, the customization and city are night and day. However 2 is a literal masterpiece, probably a top 3 open world game of all time
This video proves volition put everything they had into sr2 stilwater more buildings, hidden passages, cars, pedestrians and etc you don’t get none of that in steelport. They don’t even have a damn mall or strip club
If only we had another Saints Row game based in Stilwater, woulda loved to see the evolution onwards. They probably went with Steelport as they went to change Stilwater bit went a bit too far with the changes, so they called it something else entirely.
Well at least the King grocery store did at least open after the fall of Vice Kings. Shit makes me miss fighting the Vice Kings a little bit since now I mentioned it.
SR1 Saint's Row is the best looking quarter, it sets a balance between the gang-riddled ghetto and the NYC-style mid-class suburbs. The redesigned Saint's Row looks just hideous.
1 has a much cleaner look because 2 puts a bunch of filters and gloss and shit all over everything. It also helps 1 uses handcrafted character models. That said, 2 has so much more variety and detail it consequently made 3 a bummer to play because it suddenly became apparent it was a soulless AAA game and less of a passion project since it recycles so much shit.
I love the changes of the map between the two games. This is what I loved about Stilwater in the first two games, not just the whole map itself, but the changes from the first to second game. Now that Volition is under, and after the failure of that trash reboot, I don't know what the future holds for this series. Ever since Saints Row The Third, it seems they started to go downhill, then when Saints Row IV came out it rapidly went down the drain.
They tried to go to realistic with sr2 and made it way to drab and lacking vibrancy sr1 will forever be the better game they style to the clothing was unique to sr as well
@@saint- I re purchased both of them recently and I would Definitely have to say 2 was better, for some reason after 8 or 9 years removed from playing a game (sr1) you have fond memories of it saint row 2 was the more fun game for sure
What makes the color palet/correction great between the 2 games is that in sr1 theres was no huge industry and businesses cluttering the city up, but in sr2 due to that very thing the smog, and pollution makes for a very accurate depiction of a busy city
Seeing the rapid changes to the city gives a sort of Atlanta Metro vibe. I mean, 2015 Atlanta is very different from 2022 Atlanta; especially in the suburbs.
As Much as I love and Enjoy Sr2 The First One Just had a Certain Vibe/Feel that was and Still is Timeless Like the Underground Hip-Hop, Rundown City, Finding Ways To Get on top of Buildings with No Aircrafts, etc.
saints row 2 looks super washed out and muddy, plus the character models suck due to them being made in the character creator. julius literally looks like a sims version of himself in 2
Stilport is an amazing open world map, and stands as one of my favorites among the greats like Red Dead Redemption 2's map. Some many open world games never really make an interesting modern city map the way Volition was able to.
Ik this is an old video but when it comes to SR2, they should've let us buy back some of the mansions that we unlocked in SR1 like the lopez mansion and Price mansion PS Chinatown looked so nice is SR1, it's sad it went into such much disrepair in SR2
Kinda odd how Downtown lost its trains (Always thought it would have been fun if they updated them and made them like the japanese super fast bullet trians or whatever in SR2) and what went down at the Docks? Did it just fall into the sea and nobody bothered to fix it up? You would think it would be an important part of Stillwaters economy
Between the events of SR1 and SR2 an earthquake happened that destroyed a good portion of the city, and instead of rebuilding the places that were damaged, they built new locations on top of them. That's one of the reasons why you see old locations such as the docks completely destroyed.
This guy is content I can imagine if the next saints row game comes out he’s going to have a lot of content to offer for sure also because it’s next gen 😧
It's crazy how much money Ultor has to just come in and terraform large chunks of the map. No wonder the playa was pissed off. Playa:"You took everything from me." Ultor:"I don't even know who you are."
The Saints Row 2 version of Stilwater is very different however some of the locations remain in the same places while some have been removed like the abandoned police station, Kingdom Come Records and the Saints Row Loft crib.
It's a pitty, that you can never take over your old cribs from SR1. I always liked the Price Estate and even today I still wish for a mod, which lets you renovate it.
You can definitely feel Ultor's influence in SR2.
My favorite thing to do was ride a motorbike up the side of the ultor building and make it inside
Kinds the point yes but they executed it so well.
Yeah I mean like they leveled a mountain behind gats and aishas house
That's gentrification for ya
@@bigeddymachete ctfu 😂
It’s really astonishing how Ultor can evict everybody from their apartments who were living in the Saints Row’s territory way back in 2006 and get their homes bulldozed so everybody could have a clear view of the Phillips Building.
Governments do that all the time irl when building stuff like highways. Usually they end up bulldozing entire sections of poor/and or black neighborhoods to build stuff that the people there don't want
It can happen in real life too. I live in a neighborhood where it was crime and hoods. Then out of nowhere the rent on the house went sky high and peoples stuff were outside the houses. Then a year or two later my neighbor started building new houses, and people who were moving in had big money. I had people trying to get me to sell the house but I declined all offers. Then I started seeing new restaurants and areas being built in the neighborhood and community. Long story short they literally kick everybody out except for some that can still pay it and built everything around us.
I honestly love both versions of Stilwater. Steelport just pales in comparison to both of them.
yeah
At least the game make up for it by being great but steelport was nowhere near Stillwater for sure
True
Yea I miss all the freckle bitches, diners, and the clothing stores(as well as the musics). Stillwater only has stuff from ultor/saints(later Zin) clothing store apparently, it gets mundane after a while. Though the gun customization in SR3 & SR4 is really fun, you can make a laser blaster from the default gun options in SR4.
Steelport felt very lifeless at times. Stilwater felt full of life. And each district has a strong distinct identity of its own.
I started with SR2 and played SR1 later. When I played SR1 for the first time I vaguely recognized the areas but playing SR2 right after the first is a shock to the system when looking at the city as a whole
It's crazy how you don't notice that it's the same city.
You can depict certain areas that you recognize
This one exit from saints row that goes under the highway and zags back and forth gets me every time, and I’m positive it’s paved straight through in 2. Also, muscle memory is taking me into dead ends because I’ve played 2 so much that 1 i feel lost in. 😅
I like SR2 but everything is just to grey compared to SR1. SR1 actually has colors where SR2 it's like the entire color pallete is grey
So I know Im 1 year late but SR2 came out when yellow/brown-ish filters were the shit-see GTA IV
@@kilian20v nah gta 4 looks awesome. But Saints Row 2... Meh.
@IV CYAN .I'm talking about the filter, not the game, dumbass. i love saints row 2 but it is undeniable that gta4 has superior graphics.
@IV CYAN cap
I fell like thats the point. Stillwater in Saints Row 2 has been corporatized due to the influence of Ultor. So it makes sense that every thing would look all grey and corporate compared to the first game.
Not gonna lie i like sr1 color scheme more than sr 2
Sr2 was more blended (murky shades of nearly the same colour) mostly
I think sr1 had the better graphics too IMO
In my opinion sr1 had better lighting but sr2 had better graphics
@@sethphillips7991 sr1 had better models too
@@nikolasferreira3247 WAYYYY better models. The lighting would have made it.
"Picture of this... glass towers, clean streets, and no one below the poverty line trying to wash your car."
I love midnight club
"I have some pictures to show your audience, if you don't mind. "
What I do in Saints row 2 is just to go at night clubs
SR2’s updated map felt like such a natural progression and made a lot of places feel fresh. It would have been very easy for Stilwater to become stale before 2 even released.
I liked the saints row district tho
Ultor Corp. literally managed to transform Detroit-based city of Stilwater into a real-life utopian creation, damn.
I feel that Stillwater is more based on Chicago. Steelport is based on Pittsburg
@@kitcloudkicker14 Steelport is definitely based on Pittsburgh. Trust me I know. They said Stilwater is based on Chicago and Detroit because of their huge gang violence.
tyler johnson nah it’s Detroit I don’t see nothing Chicago in the game at all lol especially the projects look just like joy rd in Detroit
@@kitcloudkicker14 And it's with one "L".
@Mcheetah Devs themselves said that it's Detroit-based. Check their livestreams.
No only they are more buildings, places and stores in SR2, but also a lot of density of people and cars. You can tell that after the success of the first SR, Volition make enough money to update all Stillwater.
Sr2 started production a little bit before the release of saints row 1
Yeh because of ultor they gentrified it
A lot of ideas where actually from sr 1 but they didn’t have time to fully implement them on the bata the map was quiet different
It's hilarious to see how well they nailed the rust belt industrial city in SR1 only to use none of the lessons Stilwater taught in Sr3, my god Steelport sucks in comparison.
Everything after Saints Row 2 sucked.
That's the sad part. They tried to emphasize the rust belt aspect in steelport and at times I could see it with some of the housing but they didn't really utilize it, same thing happened with the reboot. They simply made steelport and SI a setting and they tell you what's happening vs showing you via the environment or NPCs. Stilwater was alive and a character in itself.
I can tell you about stores and places unrelated to missions and places you can't even enter in stilwater like the neighbors with the identical houses but one is messy, grass is uncut and Christmas lights are still up. That artist who is Shaundi's friend more than likely living in the trailer park due to the statues their.
Steelport... That huge church, the casinos, I guess the park. Was there even a police station or prison there?
@@LadyBern there were atleast 2 police stations in sr3
Its based on Detroit and Detroit is definitely an industrial city
Glad to see people are still enjoying the game 😊
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This game is timeless
The game es cool
Wish saints had online like gta but more fun
Just re-bought all of the Saint Rows today on Xbox Including the saints row three remastered
SR2 looks so faded when by Sr1 its funny
Volition should remake both of these games and make it into one game.
No sr2 should have its own game and sr1 should also have its own game
@@ashrafhaider598 SR1 is supposed to be hard, that’s why you have bongs and drugs that reduce the damage you receive.
@@SelectDevotee68 Yeah. That's why Saints Row The Third didn't have drugs or food as it was super easy.
unfortunately volition is completely different people than it was 15 years ago. And you can definitely tell it when you compare these old classics to that cringe woke reshit
@@SelectDevotee68at least it seems fair hard, excepting the Rollerz mission where you gotta get to that last truck, and the last Los Canales mission where you gotta line up a shot while someone is driving and if you get blown up, you die and have to restart and you just wish Dex would forget the RPGs and let me shoot at the damn plane, but whatever.
Saints row 1s skybox is my favourite in any open world game. It’s always manages to look amazing at any time of day. Especially sunset and sunrise.
Personal theory: in SR1 stilwater is smaller than in SR2, Ultor moved in and gentrified saint's row, but I'm guessing they also added extra mass to the area in order to build more living areas as well as funded the remodeling of several areas of the city, that earthquake Gat mentioned did some noticeable damage which gave ultor the perfect excuse to remodel and possibly expand on a LOT of the city, and win the local government and people over as the Hughes initiative to gentrify the les desirable parts of the city was slowly turned into the Ultor initiative. So all their willingness to spend what seems to be literal millions to fix and remodel large amounts of the city helped them set a foothold since you can literally see their logo almost everywhere.
Accurate!
there were two quakes. the one that dropped the saint's hideout in SR2 happened 40 years before the events took place, while the one that sunk the docks from SR1 happened while the playa was in a coma
@@vic8695 When is that mentioned? I only remember the one Gat talked about that buried Old Stilwater
The land was already there but was very hilly. Idk if Simcity type terraforming is a real thing but that's what it reminds me of lol. Also I don't think it's ever stated in game how much time has actually passed. I always assumed it was like 20 years or something with how much things changed and how much the returning characters aged. I know canonically the devs did say at some point it was 5 years, which I guess is possible but damn that's a LOT of change for 5 years, plus people like Gat, Julius, Troy, and Dex all look a lot more than 5 years older than in the first game.
@@realCyng Gat looks more or less the same. Troy too, only he’s in a cop uniform and ditched the circle beard for a mustache. Dex and Julius both look like they’ve seen better days though.
All the missions in sr2 are the best memorable places for me
I never realized stilwater changed so much i thought the only place that was changed was the saint row district 😦😮
Same
A lot of things were changed and also a lot of areas were added too.
I really like Stillwater. because it feels like a city you would see in real life and its not inspired by the most popular US cities like New York, Los Angeles or Miami. Steelport didn't feel as unique to me.
It really does feel like an actual city. There are differing districts, realistic distances and scope, parks and playgrounds, not just buildingsbuildingsbuildings like steelport. It actually shocked me how realistic the vibe was.
@@ryantabor9582 SR1 doesn't feel real though. It's a bunch of the same buildings smooshed together and a lack of tunnels and alleys. It feels like a maze especially with the random dead ends.
I get the reference when you said those 3 cities.
Stillwater is based off Detroit
Isn’t it inspired by Detroit?
I like saints row 1s graphics better because saints row 2 looks like smog is everywhere
Maybe that's the whole point?
What point?
@@Metro3OO maybe it's to also show that pollution increased in Stilwater
Ngl, when I went from SR2 to Saint's Row, the difference between the Rows was fucking jarring.
This exact comment but replace Saints row 1 with 3
Ultor did a fantastic job of the remodeling Stilwater. Thank you Dane Vogel sir 😎
Dane is not bad.
@@Ayaki6166 I totally agree, he a good guy and the saints took advantage of him 🥺
@@Ayaki6166 if you think about it he wanted absolute control over the city and he proves it by killing the damn executives and thinking he has a chance with the playa
@@TheGodQuac he still did much more for the city than anyone
@@TheGodQuac also owning the city is what everyone wanted
Saints Row 2's Wardill Airport is actually re-used from a beta build of Saints Row 1 - the interior was used for a multiplayer mission in SR1 as well.
Side note, On-Track looked way cooler in Saints Row 1.
What's really sad is that if The Vice Kings followed King and not Warren and Tanya they truly couldve been the most powerful gang (2:02)in Stillwater. Instead they influenced the saints
So what should we call it, The Vice King Row.
Saints Row 2 is my favorite open world game
want to play saints row online 2 or 1
@@LarryDaGoat23 send me your gamertag
@@HitlerGaymes123 WaviestGolem9
I really wish there were more Saints Row Map comparisons.
Saints Row 2 Stillwater,to this day,is my favorite open World Sandbox in any game I've ever played next to Just Cause 2's Panau Island.
All I've ever wanted is further expansions on this Map by way of a 4th Landmass area accessible by Bridges,New Customizable Cribs via Aishas House/The Price Estate/The Lopez Mansion/Benjamin King's tower/a crib on the Nuclear Power Plant Island.
I'd settle for a Remastered Saints Row 2 for Ps4 instead of forcing me to pay for it via Ps Now.
3:15 After hearing johnny gats Earthquake story. It makes so much sense why the docks is like that.
I totally forgot about that
that was another quake. the one Gat said was in the '60's. between SR1 and 2, a second happened, sinking the docks
Man I fucking love Stilwater. Place felt like home. Having Ultor gentrify it was such a great way to set them up as the villains. I can't believe we went from this to boring ass Steelport 😂
If only what was accessible in sr1 was also in sr2, theres are lot of places we could have gone inside to immerse the map
SR2 feels like a dream version of SR1 especially with the bloom filter.
Great stuff!
Wtf I’m subbed to both of yous
Crazy how a clothing company like Ultor basically gentrified almost a whole city. Kind of like how Amazon, a shipping company, has tried to do the same thing on a national level.
SR 2 map was honestly perfect. Thanks for posting this video.
Yeah. Those islands and its interiors were huge.
@@GeneralBulldog54 want to play saints row online 2 or 1
@@LarryDaGoat23 I'd be down, but my Internet is garbage
am i really the only person that thinks SR1 looks better in a lot of places? the activity cutscenes are way more polished, the night seems to be a lot darker whereas in SR2, the night really wasn't that dark, character models and clothes seem to look better in SR1, i like 2, but 1 does seem to look a little better with some things
Yeah, the lighting, weather, sky seem to be equalized in SR2 through a very smoggy looking filter. It affects not just the map, but the character models too. It’s still a great game, and probably the best in the series, but graphically it felt like a step from the new era in gaming (Saints Row 1), back to the PS2. I otherwise enjoy all the changes and the story behind it. Perhaps they’d explain away the filter and dulling of the lighting system to increased air pollution from all the expansion in the city, and that’s fair. But it all gives me a reason to go back to Saints Row 1 and appreciate it too. Plus it’s criminal that they got rid of the movie theaters. Those were such an innovative way to go back and play missions. Something lame about just going to your TV and doing it.
I love that when you are at the red light loft in SR2 there is a whole battle going on😂
Red Light Crib is nostalgic to me in Saints Row 2 I remember it being your first Crib i always used to look at my vehicles in the garage there.
SR1 has a better color scheme and better textures but SR2 has more complex environments and a bigger one.
I love how the maps are the different and the same, I also love how they didn't change one thing except for others
💙💜💙💜
I wish we can buy mansions in Saints Row 2 as well.
If only Saints Row 1 and 2 were remastered on PC, PS5, and Xbox Series X
It's not always about the graphics tho...
@Milk's The One True!! Like i said it's about the gameplay and story... Not the graphics.
@Milk's The One And the games are often unfinished and full of glitches lol...
@Milk's The One I don't know what my favorite year was lol...
imo sr2 graphics has a better realistic approach but the colors look so bleached down compared to sr1 and the npc look similar to your character in sr2 i think out of all saints rows sr2 needed the remaster the most
It's crazy how much has changed in Saints Row 2 in five years from the ending of Saints Row 1 to the start of Saints Row 2.
@IV CYAN Saints Row 1 is set in 2006 and Saints Row 2 is set in 2011.
I thought Saints Row 2 set in 2008, but I'm wrong.@@Born2Elite
Most realistic depiction of gentrification I’ve seen in a game
I had no idea certain landmarks were still in SR2 eg King's penthouse and Lopez & Price's mansions
Cant help but wonder how many people living on the Row were driven out of their homes on this project lol
Everyone but Samson seeing how his garage is still in Mission Beach.
I think everyone is appreciating the two originals far more after the reboot came out.
And the rest of the series, even the games after 2.
Personally I actually prefer the reboot to 3 or 4, the customization and city are night and day. However 2 is a literal masterpiece, probably a top 3 open world game of all time
This video proves volition put everything they had into sr2 stilwater more buildings, hidden passages, cars, pedestrians and etc you don’t get none of that in steelport. They don’t even have a damn mall or strip club
Bring back memory’s. Good old time, BEST GAME!
If only we had another Saints Row game based in Stilwater, woulda loved to see the evolution onwards. They probably went with Steelport as they went to change Stilwater bit went a bit too far with the changes, so they called it something else entirely.
Well at least the King grocery store did at least open after the fall of Vice Kings.
Shit makes me miss fighting the Vice Kings a little bit since now I mentioned it.
@@saint- I Agree, the actor shouldn't have died, I didn't know what happened to him till now.
SR1 Saint's Row is the best looking quarter, it sets a balance between the gang-riddled ghetto and the NYC-style mid-class suburbs. The redesigned Saint's Row looks just hideous.
1 has a much cleaner look because 2 puts a bunch of filters and gloss and shit all over everything. It also helps 1 uses handcrafted character models. That said, 2 has so much more variety and detail it consequently made 3 a bummer to play because it suddenly became apparent it was a soulless AAA game and less of a passion project since it recycles so much shit.
absolutely this. sr2 is such a gem
I like the muddy and filters of Saints Row 2 as I think it adds to the feel of the game and that the boss gives zero fs.
@@Born2Elite
English literature moment
I love the changes of the map between the two games. This is what I loved about Stilwater in the first two games, not just the whole map itself, but the changes from the first to second game. Now that Volition is under, and after the failure of that trash reboot, I don't know what the future holds for this series. Ever since Saints Row The Third, it seems they started to go downhill, then when Saints Row IV came out it rapidly went down the drain.
one of my most memorable moments is finding out you could get into the mall and get rare clothes from the stores
They tried to go to realistic with sr2 and made it way to drab and lacking vibrancy sr1 will forever be the better game they style to the clothing was unique to sr as well
@@saint- I re purchased both of them recently and I would Definitely have to say 2 was better, for some reason after 8 or 9 years removed from playing a game (sr1) you have fond memories of it saint row 2 was the more fun game for sure
Sr2 is the best open world game
it's not THE best, but it's definitely up there with my favourites.
@@krisdasquid3479 “stop lying”
0:00 This song is so nostalgic to the series😭🙌🏼
What makes the color palet/correction great between the 2 games is that in sr1 theres was no huge industry and businesses cluttering the city up, but in sr2 due to that very thing the smog, and pollution makes for a very accurate depiction of a busy city
SR2 adds memorable landmarks on what used to be forgettable terrain. SR2 wins this one
Seeing the rapid changes to the city gives a sort of Atlanta Metro vibe. I mean, 2015 Atlanta is very different from 2022 Atlanta; especially in the suburbs.
Ultor gentrified the hell out of Saint's Row
1:55 - Lmao, that woman xD
The first two games were a masterpiece the games that followed were mediocre at best
If the two games color palettes could meet in the middle that would make for a perfect remaster.
i just started SR2 its amazing.
very nice video mate. I'm currently playing SR2 again and I wondered how it looked in the first game 👍
oh I played all of them, I just have a hard time remembering the map 😅
As Much as I love and Enjoy Sr2 The First One Just had a Certain Vibe/Feel that was and Still is Timeless Like the Underground Hip-Hop, Rundown City, Finding Ways To Get on top of Buildings with No Aircrafts, etc.
Am i the only one who think SR 1 looks so much better than SR2?
saints row 2 looks super washed out and muddy, plus the character models suck due to them being made in the character creator. julius literally looks like a sims version of himself in 2
This is why Saints Row 1 and 2 are the best
From a gang land city to an Ultor corporation run city. That’s progress I guess.
The Boss going through an Michael Jackson phase but backwards
Just wait til you see how they suddenly became a woman off screen.
Steelport - islands with skyscrapers.
Steelwater - an entire city superior to any city in the GTA universe.
@3:25 There's the Hitman's target on the radar, go get him/her 😁😁😁
Why does it seem like sr2 is dulled and collorless in some places where it used to be good looking in the first one
Saints Row 2 needs a Remaster. Keep the original features, address the bugs and glitches. Improve vehicle handling and textures. Boom perfect game.
SR1 First.
@@blastoxic9992 yea 1 first idk wtf this person talking about
They didn’t have the original source code so that’s why they remastered SR3 first. Give it a year or so and we should get SR2 remastered
@@darknid158 Idolninja said sr2 isnt getting a remaster
@@Vi3Voide the team who remastered SR3 came and said they found the old source code AFTER they remastered 3 or else they would have done 1/2 first
These two games are really good, but I like Saints row 2 a little more
Thank you for taking your time to make this!! We know this took some time!
I find this such a clever way of world building. You can drive around and not even notice at first. ❤
To be honest, Stilwater in both games feels like a completely different place, with things such as the entire landmass getting altered.
Stilport is an amazing open world map, and stands as one of my favorites among the greats like Red Dead Redemption 2's map.
Some many open world games never really make an interesting modern city map the way Volition was able to.
4:12 just noticed playa's first apartment in SR1 was turned into a barbershop in SR2
Why does the graphic of saints row 1 looker better than 2. But I like 2 for it story and gameplay I also like 1.
The new saints row ain't got nothing on 1 and 2.
Ik this is an old video but when it comes to SR2, they should've let us buy back some of the mansions that we unlocked in SR1 like the lopez mansion and Price mansion
PS Chinatown looked so nice is SR1, it's sad it went into such much disrepair in SR2
Saints Row 1 graphics looked way better and was way ahead of its time.
True
I wish sr2 felt more like the sr1 engine.
It’s on the same engine though
saints row 1 looks prettier Saints row 2 color palette tires my eyes, it has an intense brown theme
Kinda odd how Downtown lost its trains (Always thought it would have been fun if they updated them and made them like the japanese super fast bullet trians or whatever in SR2) and what went down at the Docks? Did it just fall into the sea and nobody bothered to fix it up? You would think it would be an important part of Stillwaters economy
Between the events of SR1 and SR2 an earthquake happened that destroyed a good portion of the city, and instead of rebuilding the places that were damaged, they built new locations on top of them. That's one of the reasons why you see old locations such as the docks completely destroyed.
I love the content that you make! Saints Row was one of my first GTA game on the Xbox
want to play saints row online 2 or 1
This guy is content I can imagine if the next saints row game comes out he’s going to have a lot of content to offer for sure also because it’s next gen 😧
Crazy how they were able to get rid of that giant Hill behind Gat and Aisha's house
It looks like a mixture of Midwestern cities to me - someone from Los Angeles
It's crazy how much money Ultor has to just come in and terraform large chunks of the map. No wonder the playa was pissed off.
Playa:"You took everything from me."
Ultor:"I don't even know who you are."
The Saints Row 2 version of Stilwater is very different however some of the locations remain in the same places while some have been removed like the abandoned police station, Kingdom Come Records and the Saints Row Loft crib.
3:12 Wow it was still intact. What the hell happened in saints row 2 that cause this destruction??
I think that shaundi and Johnny gat changed a lot in saints row 3 onwards.
want to play saints row online 2 or 1
I played every Saints row game except for the first one and I got to say the first game looks good but the second game looks like a downgrade
Man i miss saints row nice video
It's a pitty, that you can never take over your old cribs from SR1. I always liked the Price Estate and even today I still wish for a mod, which lets you renovate it.