Do you "Freestylers" like top mounted micros? I like the change but not sure I have a strong preference. PyroDrone bit.ly/3zNpGFA Banggood bit.ly/3rJzU6P MarkerFire bit.ly/3BKPHXP AliExpress bit.ly/3f5pxW3
I prefer top mount, if you hold the entire quad (with the battery on) by the tip of one blade sideways, the top mount will hang straighter, almost perfectly straight, than a bottom mount, in most cases with typical "normal" builds. So the prop has better leverage over the weight of the craft. That gives it better weight distribution. But the fact is for many smaller "micro" class quads bottom mount is the only choice.
@@user-yk1cw8im4h better tell your spectators to wear helmet then if your target aim for heads instead of race gates or when freestyling in the park, make sure it's clear then have a giant dome so you know your flying safe inside alone lol
@@Bisdak.3475 let me just ask you one question - will you fly this thing in your own home with other family members? If not then listen the fuck up. The plastic frame of a tiny whoop is perfect for those type of flying, you can hit objects or even humans without killing them. This? not so much which basically defeats the purpose of a tiny whoop sized quad. You sound like you'd use this thing to race against proper quads on a field or something lol
The VTX with the pins is totally fine IMHO - the A65 has the predecessor of this board (without SPI RX) and I have been flying this thing for over a year now - and everything is still holding up fine. IMHO one of the best, most reliable 1S boards you can get.
I have said it before, I'll say it again... your yard should be in a Sim. After watching ao many of your videos, the desire to rip around there grows and grows. Great work! Thank you.
It would be super cool, and it would be a big moment for the channel. I don't suspect it will happen as I have not had any recent communication with any sim manufacturer :(
Very cool. Looks like a ton of 1s micro fun. Im stuck in the micro quad world and I dont think im leaving any time soon. Might have to pick one of these up. Great video Nick 👍👍
As a very average pilot, I only notice a difference in mounting if I'm running a heavy battery in relation to the quad. Bottom mount had the pendulum feel. If I'm running a more appropriate battery size I can rarely tell a difference.
I absolutely love that little quad that's what I need a 1s cheaper to keep up with cause with the medical issues and bills I for sure know I can't afford to fly the bigger stuff anymore sadly. However I always liked top mount when I was flying. Health issues has made flying next to impossible but I'm alive and that's all that matters may take a year of saving up but I'll get another setup. Thanks so much for sharing Nick.
Only time I’ve had trouble with a pinned vtx is on the emax tinyhawk freestyle. The vtx antenna sticks straight up and in a crash that acts as a level on the vtx so after a few crashes the pins go. This should be fine as it’s clipped in and out the back
It looks like a spitin image of the happymodel mantis 85, but with out all the green and 2s. I learned/still learning about those pin style connections, first few sets of beta75x boards(still flying one). Every few crashes i have to squeeze boards back together because the connections aren't tight anymore.I lost my mantis A long time ago, thanks flysky(LoL).
Dude! Nice man. Those iflight succex f4 whoop flight controllers are pretty good. Been using 2 of them for more than six months, in various tks configurations, they have been flown so so many times, crashed many times, they are tanks! And those xing motors are great too. These boards have out lasted all the different whoop boards I've had. Kinda cool to see iflight make this lil quad. Yea you're right, the props should be a bit larger. Great video man, thanks Nick
@@pushies5 i think because the way the antenna is mounted on this quad from the video has effected the video reception. On my whoops and tks builds, I have the antenna mounted pointing up, and get good range with them. Surprisingly better than some of my flight controllers with built in vtx.
Good afternoon Nick. So I have some of these 63mm frames and was going to build one up as 2s instead. I will probably remove the batt mount and just use a velcro strap. Maybe try 0802 16000kv or 0803 15000kv. What do you think?
080x motors have 1mm motor shafts, with the additional weight of 2s batteries I worry about bent motor shafts or even broken. I would move up to 110x and 1.5mm motor shafts.
@nickburns do u think this thing could lose a lil weight for better battery duration? removing plugs, excess tpu etc. it might actually feel a lil better im thinkin. not that it was bad or anything
Oh I suspect we can. Connectors like you said the tpu for camera and antenna can be done lighter but likely also not look as polished. And the battery mount. We could half it or come up with something different
I didn't mean to flood Nick's channel with rules politics. Keep up the great content Nick been following for a long while now and Def helped throuout my fpv progression ( from micros to 5" back to pretty much anything sub250g )
I really don't think it should be about weight, even 100g straight in the eye can be extremely dangerous. I would set it more based on people proximity, leaving _any_ weight allowed if I'm in the middle of nowhere. Also, I would require a licence honestly.. too many are flying without knowing what they are doing, everyone can buy a 5 inches drone, which is crazy.
Hi Nick YEP I NEED IT ! LOL ! OK I just want it. I just have more fun with micros than my 5in frames. I really like the price, with all the prices going up. Thanks again for the video and information.
@@NickBurnsFPV Si Hong Xu posted a picture of the first prototype talking about wanting to design the smallest possible top mounted freestyle quad and it had 31mm props so I asked him to try to put 35mm on it cause I knew it would fly better without having to modify the frame so he tried it and it was better so now we're here
Hi, my uz80 frame broke, so i designed a 3d printed 75mm low profile frame and canopy combo and i was wondering if you'd like to try it out. (Also my camera broke so i have to wait till it arrives to try this setup, and to make modifications if needed. If you are interested I'll let you know when it's ready)👍
@@NickBurnsFPV it is meant to be printed out of TPU and pla, which are both really easy to print, I'll send you a link to the files when I finish tweaking it, then you can decide if you want to print it or not 👍
So it's the same propsize as the mob6, but without the propguards and it's still heavier. If you compare it to the mob6 or moblite6, which flies nicer outside? We should give one of these to mr shutterbug and see what he can do to it :)
the mob6 is 31mm this is 35mm. A quad without prop protection will always out perform those with prop protection. The protection is wind resistance, and has additional flight limitations.
Thank you. No gym time for me. Been focusing on reduced calorie intake mainly. I do try to exercise, but it’s limited as my shoulders back and knees flair up. I did pretty good exercising for about 9weeks then my shoulders got angry with impingements. Been a struggle since on and off Celebrex to reduce the the swelling. But I do what I can.
Great vid Nick! Not sure if top or bottom mounted matters with such light weight, but would prefer top mounted. BTW - You look like you've been losing weight?! Awesome man. Any tips :)
Good Lord Nick you look great man. Been away for a while but I'm back. I was saying to myself, "who's that kid with Nick's voice?" Great review as always Nick.
I don’t mod quads on review videos. This has a possibility of confusing people. Sure don’t use the stock mount and use a strap for a bigger battery. Bigger battery is going to change the flight performance as well. Much less agile. Flight style and environment have a large impact on flight time.
Is it better than like a happy model moblite7? I love that thing, and I fly for ages with it. It's my best investment in fpv as I get so much stick time with it as I can just rip it in my garden 😌
I wouldn't say its better, but it does fly differently and in some ways better. Pretty much anything without prop protection has flight advantages when compared to those with prop protection.
Great video!! Little guy looks fun! So just out of curiosity is that a new camera that it comes with? Iv never head of it?? How would you campare the atomic to nano 3?my favorite 1g-1.5g camera is fpv cycle edition ant lite
The atom is a new camera. I have not experienced it myself. In general I think the FOV is pretty close to what we want but the image recorded in the dvr is darker than in the goggles, is fairly dramatic. Others in the comments have noted this behavior as well.
This is one i really really like!!! And thsnks for another Great review brother!!!!! Also loved the backyard ripping!!! I just love small fast f.p.v. quads what can I say!!! 😁
Cool kwad, probably wait for an upgraded version…if they had just lengthened the arms a bit and thrown 40mm props on it the thing would probably have flown great been more efficient for some of us flight time snobs ;). And been perfect…I’ve noticed generally you can gauge the efficiency directly (many factors considered) vice straight up battery size…ie: if you can squeeze a little over 3 minutes out of a 300, 4+ out of a 450, and the top end stretch…5 min out of a 550-650mah….then itS pretty min maxed for efficiency with motor/prop/battery combo….the kinda sketch Atom camera gives pause here though, it did not look that great in either condition BUT PERHAPS we should curb or expectations a tad, and we’ve been spoiled the last 2 years, but seems we have stalled a bit or maybe hit the edge of the physical envelope on the micro cams….
The phantom Is a great rig. I have one too. This... Not so much.. it's a lead whoop, can barely recover from dives. I found my self hitting the ground all the time because it feels underpowered when doing acro. It's ok as a racer style but sure not a freestyler the mobula6 does a better job at that
I have an unrelated question; I have a race whoop, the Nvision STEM Alliance, it's being held together with rubberbands. Every once in a while while flying the flight controller has an epileptic seizure, it just has a spaz. It doesn't fall out of the sky or anything but, I have no idea why it's happening. Any idea?
You’re wearing a Jayhawk shirt! At least, Jayhawk is all I can see. I live in KS and went to the univ of KS. I’m a Jayhawk through and through. I don’t know if Jayhawks have any meaning to you, but I approve!! 👍
@@NickBurnsFPV There was a recruiting scandal a few years back and they lost a lot of prospective players and some current players transferred. I heard rumor in headline surfing that the Big12 is kinda under the gun for some reason. Maybe it’s cause we put too many teams in the tourney for too long. The Big and PAC 10 are all sour I guess. 🤣
I bought this thing without looking at the specs just liked the top mount honestly I thought it was 40mm oops. The camera does look much better in goggles than DVR overall it's brighter. I really like it overall flys good out of the box.
I wouldn't just to run the betafpv batteries. The betafpv batteries aren't very good. Other Bt2.0 batteries do have a performance increase. It is well known the bt20 connector is better and can carry more current with less resistance.
It will somewhat depend on the prop and number of blades. If we go to 40mm and bi blades I do think the efficiency will go up, but the prop doesn't fit the quad. :(
Your flight times are crazy for 300mah. I have the nitro nectar I might have to test them. Using 650 gnb and 450 emax and ovonics I barely make1.30-2 minutes. And I even downgraded the motors to betafpv 19500kv. Those batteries usually get me 4-5 minutes of flight time on my normal builds with mosquito and tks frames with the same motors.
@@NickBurnsFPV for the nazgul nano I was getting around a minute with the batteries I mentioned. After I swapped the motors for 19500kv I’m still only getting around 130 maybe 2 minutes. I’ll have to try the nitro nectars like you used to see if the size makes a difference. Also Instead of top mounting the battery I put a TKS 3d printed 450 battery mount onto the bottom plate of the nazgul.
I saw your review of the Flywoo Firedly, I was wondering if the Baby Nazgul or the Firefly is better. I personally like that the Firefly can get much better flight time, but I didn't know if the Baby Nazgul jus flies amazingly better or something
The tune on the nazgul is better making it easier to show nice flying. This has 40mm props, so with a better tune it will likely show even better than in this video. The nazgul will have pretty short flight times if we don't use the newbeedrone batteries. The nano baby has long flights almost regardless of battery.
Thanks for the great review Nick Question: When upgrading to the PH2.0 solid pin did you have to disassemble part of the quad to do the soldering? Mighty tight in there.
In this case I didn't replace the ph2.0 connector. If I were to I would clip the wire and solder on an solid pin ph2.0 or alternate connector that is presoldered to the connector. Soldering the wires is so much easier than the little connectors. When I build I replace the entire fc led.
I'm thinking of getting this drone with the tbs crossfire option but I don't have the module for my radiomaster t16 do u have any advice on what to buy thats going to work on a low budget???? Thanks for taking the time to get back to me (that's if u do) lol
hmm. yes all quads have a flight controller, its the "brain" of the quad. I wonder if the question is more in line with does it come with a transmitter/radio to control it. The answer to that is no, we have to purchase separately.
@@NickBurnsFPV yeah that’s what I meant. Do you think their is a cheaper option I can get. I’m bearly getting started and do not. No a lot about these drones
@@NickBurnsFPV not sure if the problem is from the motors themselfs as i have replaced them and with in a few flights they start getting loader again especially if props are, i wouldnt say even dameged just have had a couple flights on them, its allways the rear, it sounds like a chainsaw, and within minutes they start spitting magnets, and or loosening motor screws, maybe something wrong with combination of them the frame slightly off props and heavy on the throttle but really they shouldnt be that fragile,
Hey man this thing looks super sick! I'm new to FPV. I'm wondering if it's better to start on one of these before buying a bigger one?? And is this drone compatible with DJI goggles and remote?? How can I know if a drone is comptatible with DJI stuf?? Cheers mate!
DJI goggles are not natively compatible with this type of quad. We can make it compatible by adding a BDI adapter, analog receiver like rapidfire, and antenna like the trueRC or Axii. So that is an additional expense, something you will have to weigh. It a quad isn't described or listed as HD with caddx vista or caddx air unit, then its analog requiring the above analoge adaption.
@@NickBurnsFPV Cool thanks! I don’t understand half of what you said but no stress 😂 Are there any small smaller Fpv drones that are comptatible with Dji goggles / controller? 🙏
Hopefully d8 is covered in this video. th-cam.com/video/2QL7DWcH1G0/w-d-xo.html frsky can be a complete pain in the backside as they have really hosed things with d8 mode. If your radio is newer or has newer frsky firmware d8 mode is gone/dead. the only alternative is to switch to d16 and the range won't be very good.
@@NickBurnsFPV Yes Frsky really screwed up millions of pilots out there, especially newbies like myself. I thought D8 would be easy thats why i bought it but its complete garbage. Thanks Nick hopefully ill get to flying with the video you sent me. 👍✈️
@@NickBurnsFPV o the video didnt cover how to setup the model and bind the Nazgul. I got the receiver bound becauze the sticks are working but theres a certain way one has to setup the model and that is where i believe am getting trouble. Do you have any videos on what settings to turn onand off in the Nazgul model in Betaflight?
@@techFPV5964 I don't have setup videos on specific quads. What are you seeing that makes you look at the model file setup? If its sticks aren't correct like throttle on the radio doesn't move throttle in betaflight that is the channel map. Need to select the same channel map the radio is using.
@@NickBurnsFPV The channel map looks good at AETRA1234 and the inputs mixer are a match as well. Somehow ive lost the receiver functionality. The model os set to Failsafe "No pulses" amd something strange is happening ay Betaflight where i get no power thru the usb unless i hook up a lipo. Above auto correct it says "Virtual mode (experimental) and to the very right of tbos ot says" MSP. 1.43/Firmware 4.2. Maybe this jas something to do with no power to the usb. I was thinking about deleting BF and start anew. This is all new to me since i always got power thru the usb. I even changed cables to no avail. If i change from virtual mode to manual selection then on the left it will say "Port /dev/rfcommo. What does this tell you if anything? This nazgul has turned out to be a freakin nightmare.
@@wingsuitist I just might cover it, I have been asked a fair bit. I am a bit hesitant as its so far off channel topic. Although I am leaning towards doing it.
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Do you "Freestylers" like top mounted micros? I like the change but not sure I have a strong preference.
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I like top mounts, simply because I'm not landing on my packs.
I like topmount think it flies better for freestyle.... Started out with a wizard x220s maybe that's why. I think they lean better in the corners.
I LOVE THIS ONE!!!
I prefer top mount, if you hold the entire quad (with the battery on) by the tip of one blade sideways, the top mount will hang straighter, almost perfectly straight, than a bottom mount, in most cases with typical "normal" builds. So the prop has better leverage over the weight of the craft. That gives it better weight distribution.
But the fact is for many smaller "micro" class quads bottom mount is the only choice.
I really like the fact manufacturers are making smaller "whoop-ish" quads with carbon fiber frames instead of some form of plastic.
Plastics are alot safer though, cf will immediately kills someone if you crash it in the head
@@user-yk1cw8im4h even this tiny micro can kill you?
@@Bisdak.3475 bro you reckon it's carbon fiber traveling at a high speed right?
@@user-yk1cw8im4h better tell your spectators to wear helmet then if your target aim for heads instead of race gates or when freestyling in the park, make sure it's clear then have a giant dome so you know your flying safe inside alone lol
@@Bisdak.3475 let me just ask you one question - will you fly this thing in your own home with other family members? If not then listen the fuck up. The plastic frame of a tiny whoop is perfect for those type of flying, you can hit objects or even humans without killing them. This? not so much which basically defeats the purpose of a tiny whoop sized quad. You sound like you'd use this thing to race against proper quads on a field or something lol
The VTX with the pins is totally fine IMHO - the A65 has the predecessor of this board (without SPI RX) and I have been flying this thing for over a year now - and everything is still holding up fine. IMHO one of the best, most reliable 1S boards you can get.
I have said it before, I'll say it again... your yard should be in a Sim. After watching ao many of your videos, the desire to rip around there grows and grows. Great work! Thank you.
It would be super cool, and it would be a big moment for the channel. I don't suspect it will happen as I have not had any recent communication with any sim manufacturer :(
"the efficiency deficiency"😂 bloody love it🙌🏼
The little line in your prop wiped right off, hehe ;) .... great video as always, thanks.
haha, I noticed that too! stress line in the prop just wiped away haha, all good though cause Nick is the best of the best in my opinion.
It was so cool ! It looks like a 5 inch fpv drone in 63mm version.
It does. :)
You lost weight and look 10 years younger. Good job!
Thank you.
Yes I almost thought this video is a throwback 😂
It's a cute little rig. Great review as always, Nick!
Not IGOW approved :)
Cool so small.♥️
Hi Nick, was a while i wasn't watching your videos and i found you in a very well shape! always great videos! Thank You!
Fantastic flying and review, Nick! 😃
I really hope they make a 40mm version as well!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Wow, what a little ripper !
Always great info for those starting out and reminders for us old codgers. ;)
Very cool. Looks like a ton of 1s micro fun. Im stuck in the micro quad world and I dont think im leaving any time soon. Might have to pick one of these up. Great video Nick 👍👍
omg that is a heart-melting cute little thing
?? I don't think I understand. Maybe a key typo in that?
@@NickBurnsFPV that was an oopsy :p
after that baby Nazgul i really thinking of buying an analog system
pls do 5 giveaways of that thing
@@rasta1979 Well I only have the 1 :)
As a very average pilot, I only notice a difference in mounting if I'm running a heavy battery in relation to the quad. Bottom mount had the pendulum feel. If I'm running a more appropriate battery size I can rarely tell a difference.
But you still feel it, so maybe your not nearly as average as you think :)
Those newbeedrone nitronectar gold lipo’s are insane with a bt2.0 on it!
I absolutely love that little quad that's what I need a 1s cheaper to keep up with cause with the medical issues and bills I for sure know I can't afford to fly the bigger stuff anymore sadly. However I always liked top mount when I was flying. Health issues has made flying next to impossible but I'm alive and that's all that matters may take a year of saving up but I'll get another setup. Thanks so much for sharing Nick.
I love this. I hope there’s more coming in this class.
possibly, I have not heard anything specific or launches coming soon.
That's alot of fun
Only time I’ve had trouble with a pinned vtx is on the emax tinyhawk freestyle. The vtx antenna sticks straight up and in a crash that acts as a level on the vtx so after a few crashes the pins go. This should be fine as it’s clipped in and out the back
I really like Nick’s shirt.
Great video
I have the fc and vtx for over a year no problems.
Good to know. Thank you for that.
Funny that something so small can fly so well 👍 and it very good build.
The small guys can be fun to.
Always good stuff.
It looks like a spitin image of the happymodel mantis 85, but with out all the green and 2s. I learned/still learning about those pin style connections, first few sets of beta75x boards(still flying one). Every few crashes i have to squeeze boards back together because the connections aren't tight anymore.I lost my mantis A long time ago, thanks flysky(LoL).
It does look like a small mantis. I think i broke an arm and motor on my mantis back in the day.
Greay review Nick. Thanks!
Nice flying skills I am always looking for whoop pilots
Thing is cute!👍
Will it fit through the foot hole gap of that swing on the swing set though?
Do you mean the ladder? or the Rock wall?
@@NickBurnsFPV Haha no that glider swing with the slots for your hands and feet. I just looked up what they were called.
@@ugellin ah, I don't think I have ever tried that. The kids call that the horse :)
Great video as always . I like the uz80 fly's great . But I'll be looking for one of these in the future.
Thanks 🙏 for sharing the love about our lipos ❤️❤️❤️
Hey, no doubt. They are really top performers, not really a close 2nd in those that I have tried.
Dude! Nice man.
Those iflight succex f4 whoop flight controllers are pretty good. Been using 2 of them for more than six months, in various tks configurations, they have been flown so so many times, crashed many times, they are tanks! And those xing motors are great too. These boards have out lasted all the different whoop boards I've had. Kinda cool to see iflight make this lil quad. Yea you're right, the props should be a bit larger. Great video man, thanks Nick
Is the vtx good? Are you getting good range out of it? More people are changing their vtx cause the stock vtx is not sufficient.
@@pushies5 i think because the way the antenna is mounted on this quad from the video has effected the video reception. On my whoops and tks builds, I have the antenna mounted pointing up, and get good range with them. Surprisingly better than some of my flight controllers with built in vtx.
@@8BiT_fpv cool, thanks for the info. That's reassuring to hear.
@@pushies5 yea no problem
Diggin' the cicadas.
They sure are making themselves heard aren't they.
Good afternoon Nick. So I have some of these 63mm frames and was going to build one up as 2s instead. I will probably remove the batt mount and just use a velcro strap. Maybe try 0802 16000kv or 0803 15000kv. What do you think?
080x motors have 1mm motor shafts, with the additional weight of 2s batteries I worry about bent motor shafts or even broken. I would move up to 110x and 1.5mm motor shafts.
Iflight have opened pre orders for a 73mm version of this with 40mm props
@nickburns do u think this thing could lose a lil weight for better battery duration? removing plugs, excess tpu etc. it might actually feel a lil better im thinkin. not that it was bad or anything
Oh I suspect we can. Connectors like you said the tpu for camera and antenna can be done lighter but likely also not look as polished. And the battery mount. We could half it or come up with something different
Yep. I need something like this for my yard.
Insane little quad i want to freestyle with this babby !!!!
There should be a certain weight drone that isn't classed as a drone/threat . And not have to obey all the silly rules . Sub100g is harmless
sub 250g...is already unrestricted
@@daverips_ False. You still have to follow the same FPV rules as over 250grams. Just don't have to register.
I didn't mean to flood Nick's channel with rules politics. Keep up the great content Nick been following for a long while now and Def helped throuout my fpv progression ( from micros to 5" back to pretty much anything sub250g )
Yea, I don't think that will happen. The regulations and those implementing would rather they be as broad as they can giving them more authority.
I really don't think it should be about weight, even 100g straight in the eye can be extremely dangerous. I would set it more based on people proximity, leaving _any_ weight allowed if I'm in the middle of nowhere. Also, I would require a licence honestly.. too many are flying without knowing what they are doing, everyone can buy a 5 inches drone, which is crazy.
It has been a while since I watched one of your videos and man I gotta say you look so much skinnier good for you keep it up
Thank you, I have been working on reducing my weight. A bit more to go I think 😀. What has kept you away? Busy with real life…work… family?
@@NickBurnsFPV no reason I love your videos I just haven’t been seeing you in my recommended which is all I scroll through
@@nitidfpv1647 Ah dang youtube :)
It will be good information for beginners or those looking for a small aircraft. This is a great review.b
Dude, you’ve lost weight, good job!
Yes, sir. Been working on it. Thank you
Hi Nick YEP I NEED IT ! LOL ! OK I just want it. I just have more fun with micros than my 5in frames. I really like the price, with all the prices going up. Thanks again for the video and information.
35mm props was my suggestion I'm glad they went with it
they originally were gonna do 31mm
Look at you influencer! Why no 40mm?
@@NickBurnsFPV Si Hong Xu posted a picture of the first prototype talking about wanting to design the smallest possible top mounted freestyle quad and it had 31mm props so I asked him to try to put 35mm on it cause I knew it would fly better without having to modify the frame so he tried it and it was better so now we're here
@@Skylionfpv Nice, we are lucky to have you. I did see the initial posting. And its pretty cool they listened!
@@NickBurnsFPV I just love this hobby and like commenting on things lol I was surprised that Si listened and glad it worked out well
Hi, my uz80 frame broke, so i designed a 3d printed 75mm low profile frame and canopy combo and i was wondering if you'd like to try it out. (Also my camera broke so i have to wait till it arrives to try this setup, and to make modifications if needed. If you are interested I'll let you know when it's ready)👍
I don’t often try printed frames. I haven’t spent enough time with my printer to get good reliable prints.
@@NickBurnsFPV it is meant to be printed out of TPU and pla, which are both really easy to print, I'll send you a link to the files when I finish tweaking it, then you can decide if you want to print it or not 👍
wow, you lost a lot of weight! i hope youve been healthy and the weight loss was intentional. looking good!
Yes, thank you. It is intentional. :)
Great video. New subscriber!
Cheers Nick!
I like micro. I like top mount. I don’t love 50mW.
Yep, 50mw, is something we haven't see much of should have 100mw or more.
So it's the same propsize as the mob6, but without the propguards and it's still heavier. If you compare it to the mob6 or moblite6, which flies nicer outside?
We should give one of these to mr shutterbug and see what he can do to it :)
the mob6 is 31mm this is 35mm. A quad without prop protection will always out perform those with prop protection. The protection is wind resistance, and has additional flight limitations.
Lookin good Nick! Been hitting the gym?
Thank you. No gym time for me. Been focusing on reduced calorie intake mainly. I do try to exercise, but it’s limited as my shoulders back and knees flair up. I did pretty good exercising for about 9weeks then my shoulders got angry with impingements. Been a struggle since on and off Celebrex to reduce the the swelling. But I do what I can.
Ahhh, I do miss the sounds of cicadas in the summer back home
sheesh they have been nuts this year.
Great vid Nick! Not sure if top or bottom mounted matters with such light weight, but would prefer top mounted. BTW - You look like you've been losing weight?! Awesome man. Any tips :)
Its the gecko!
Good Lord Nick you look great man. Been away for a while but I'm back. I was saying to myself, "who's that kid with Nick's voice?" Great review as always Nick.
lol. Thank you. Been working on eating better and less. Mix in a touch of exercise when I can.
Pretty cool! I live close to pyro, I have to go get one(:
Nick you look fantastic, you've lost so much weight I didn't even believe it was you
Thank you. Been working on it :)
@@NickBurnsFPV Your work is paying off and fast too, What are your efforts? Meal planning? Exercise?
@@PhenomonAwesome mainly caloric reduction. I do try to exercise but its pretty limited to things like a 20mins of walking or some calisthenics.
Drone camps got 4.30 on the 450mah pal. Sounds good to me
I don’t mod quads on review videos. This has a possibility of confusing people. Sure don’t use the stock mount and use a strap for a bigger battery. Bigger battery is going to change the flight performance as well. Much less agile. Flight style and environment have a large impact on flight time.
I'm a noob buddy so no idea how it's gonna fly I'll suck it n see mate.
I can't wait until we get digital fpv in these tiny things.
that could be awhile for something this small. It seems the tech is either really expensive at at tiny size or just not available.
The camera is not great, swap with an Ant? Looks like a fun little quad, agreed that a 40mm prop would have been nice.
We will have to mod the camera holder to use another cam. This one is pretty specific to the shape and size of the atom camera.
Those cute things cost less than one of my DJI batteries lol I want one
Lol
Is it better than like a happy model moblite7?
I love that thing, and I fly for ages with it. It's my best investment in fpv as I get so much stick time with it as I can just rip it in my garden 😌
I wouldn't say its better, but it does fly differently and in some ways better. Pretty much anything without prop protection has flight advantages when compared to those with prop protection.
Like it!
Great video!! Little guy looks fun! So just out of curiosity is that a new camera that it comes with? Iv never head of it?? How would you campare the atomic to nano 3?my favorite 1g-1.5g camera is fpv cycle edition ant lite
The atom is a new camera. I have not experienced it myself. In general I think the FOV is pretty close to what we want but the image recorded in the dvr is darker than in the goggles, is fairly dramatic. Others in the comments have noted this behavior as well.
@@NickBurnsFPV keep up the work!!👍
Wow the cicadas are LOUD
YES!, making me crazy some days.
@@NickBurnsFPV being in SoCal I've never experienced them. Does it just become white noise after a while?
@@AvallonYo To a degree, when you out by yourself, yea just noise. But when your out with others and trying to talk its definitely an issue.
This is one i really really like!!! And thsnks for another Great review brother!!!!! Also loved the backyard ripping!!! I just love small fast f.p.v. quads what can I say!!! 😁
Would I get much utility from this when I already have a tinyhawk freestyle 2 that I have a lot of fun with in my garden?
Not really, unless you wanted something smaller, hit those tiny gaps or just a desire to have a smaller quad.
Cool kwad, probably wait for an upgraded version…if they had just lengthened the arms a bit and thrown 40mm props on it the thing would probably have flown great been more efficient for some of us flight time snobs ;). And been perfect…I’ve noticed generally you can gauge the efficiency directly (many factors considered) vice straight up battery size…ie: if you can squeeze a little over 3 minutes out of a 300, 4+ out of a 450, and the top end stretch…5 min out of a 550-650mah….then itS pretty min maxed for efficiency with motor/prop/battery combo….the kinda sketch Atom camera gives pause here though, it did not look that great in either condition BUT PERHAPS we should curb or expectations a tad, and we’ve been spoiled the last 2 years, but seems we have stalled a bit or maybe hit the edge of the physical envelope on the micro cams….
Yea the micro cams are so often about the weight and then some just want more image quality. The image quality costs us more weight.
Haha I just bought a Geprc phantom for the yard. This looks cool though
The phantom Is a great rig. I have one too. This... Not so much.. it's a lead whoop, can barely recover from dives. I found my self hitting the ground all the time because it feels underpowered when doing acro. It's ok as a racer style but sure not a freestyler the mobula6 does a better job at that
I have an unrelated question; I have a race whoop, the Nvision STEM Alliance, it's being held together with rubberbands. Every once in a while while flying the flight controller has an epileptic seizure, it just has a spaz. It doesn't fall out of the sky or anything but, I have no idea why it's happening. Any idea?
do any of the motor screws get hot after flying?
Does it happen on a particular move...maybe on a dive or rapid decent?
No excess heat, and it doesn't matter what I'm doing, flying straight and level, doing a little dive... it is a hateful little dude.
By the by, I appreciate you taking the time to answer me.
@@FLUFFALUMP_FPV hmm, I wonder if its the FC or the esc, maybe a slight desync? Maybe increase startup power on the esc via the blheli application.
You’re wearing a Jayhawk shirt! At least, Jayhawk is all I can see. I live in KS and went to the univ of KS. I’m a Jayhawk through and through. I don’t know if Jayhawks have any meaning to you, but I approve!! 👍
I like KU and the Jayhawks. Powerhouse basketball program. I don't really have an affinity for one specific college....maybe the college I went to. :)
@@NickBurnsFPV That’s kinda how I feel with regards to the NBA. Whoever has the most KU players is who I root for. Lol.
Rock Chalk!
@@palethiusfpv I did catch a former KU player went 24th, grimes I think it was. Why would he transfer? Play time?
@@NickBurnsFPV There was a recruiting scandal a few years back and they lost a lot of prospective players and some current players transferred. I heard rumor in headline surfing that the Big12 is kinda under the gun for some reason. Maybe it’s cause we put too many teams in the tourney for too long. The Big and PAC 10 are all sour I guess. 🤣
Can you mount an insta360 Go camera on it?
we could but the flight would be shorter and much more of a smooth slower cruise flight.
Nice vid! What about trying an XT30 on this?
Xt30 feels like overkill for a 300mah battery. I would be more likely to try out gn27 or bt2.0, not betafpv batteries 😅
I bought this thing without looking at the specs just liked the top mount honestly I thought it was 40mm oops. The camera does look much better in goggles than DVR overall it's brighter. I really like it overall flys good out of the box.
Good to know I am not nuts or my unit is a 1 off. Thank you.
The stack looks like it sticks out way too much. I wonder if it will have issues being that exposed.
That could be an issue tumbling through a tree, the FC shapes really aren't an option on a quad this size.
do you recomand me to change the ph2.0 connector to bt0.2 to use the betapfv batteries 300mlh that I have ? if yes or no why? thank you for your time
I wouldn't just to run the betafpv batteries. The betafpv batteries aren't very good. Other Bt2.0 batteries do have a performance increase. It is well known the bt20 connector is better and can carry more current with less resistance.
Hey Nick, do you think flight times would increase on 40mm props with a 300 mah lipo ? Curious about batt sag w larger blades..
It will somewhat depend on the prop and number of blades. If we go to 40mm and bi blades I do think the efficiency will go up, but the prop doesn't fit the quad. :(
@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks. UZ85's a better choice w 40mm bis then
Nice review.. 👌.. that's a cool cute little flyer.. they have some 380mah 1s. now on banggood if I remember right..
yes. We can try those, but it could get in the camera view unless we are able to move the battery way back, then we could have a cg issue :(
Your flight times are crazy for 300mah. I have the nitro nectar I might have to test them. Using 650 gnb and 450 emax and ovonics I barely make1.30-2 minutes. And I even downgraded the motors to betafpv 19500kv. Those batteries usually get me 4-5 minutes of flight time on my normal builds with mosquito and tks frames with the same motors.
Your flight times are on this quad? Or another similar quad?
@@NickBurnsFPV for the nazgul nano I was getting around a minute with the batteries I mentioned. After I swapped the motors for 19500kv I’m still only getting around 130 maybe 2 minutes. I’ll have to try the nitro nectars like you used to see if the size makes a difference.
Also Instead of top mounting the battery I put a TKS 3d printed 450 battery mount onto the bottom plate of the nazgul.
@@ANKLEJOHNSON Are the batteries shot, puffy?
I saw your review of the Flywoo Firedly, I was wondering if the Baby Nazgul or the Firefly is better. I personally like that the Firefly can get much better flight time, but I didn't know if the Baby Nazgul jus flies amazingly better or something
The tune on the nazgul is better making it easier to show nice flying. This has 40mm props, so with a better tune it will likely show even better than in this video. The nazgul will have pretty short flight times if we don't use the newbeedrone batteries. The nano baby has long flights almost regardless of battery.
Thanks for the great review Nick
Question: When upgrading to the PH2.0 solid pin did you have to disassemble part of the quad to do the soldering?
Mighty tight in there.
In this case I didn't replace the ph2.0 connector. If I were to I would clip the wire and solder on an solid pin ph2.0 or alternate connector that is presoldered to the connector. Soldering the wires is so much easier than the little connectors. When I build I replace the entire fc led.
Looks like on there site they just released a 40mm version. Any chance on reviewing that one?
I am told it is being sent
@@NickBurnsFPV eyy nice! Would be cool to see how it stacks up against the flywoo
I'm thinking of getting this drone with the tbs crossfire option but I don't have the module for my radiomaster t16 do u have any advice on what to buy thats going to work on a low budget????
Thanks for taking the time to get back to me (that's if u do) lol
This comes with frsky d8 protocol which the t16 does support.
Hey Nick, are you anywhere near Wichita?
I don't think so. I am aware of a Witchita falls in tx and Witchita in Kansas, but nothing near me I don't think.
@@NickBurnsFPV we be in Kansas, the Air Capital best kept secret of the plains. I enjoy your videos and was curious about your location.
Is this the same size as the flywoo firefly?
no smaller
Does it come with an flight controller or withouth?
hmm. yes all quads have a flight controller, its the "brain" of the quad. I wonder if the question is more in line with does it come with a transmitter/radio to control it. The answer to that is no, we have to purchase separately.
Is that stock pid’s?
Yes, stock as in what the product ships with, but not stock betaflight pid. Stock betaflight pids normally only work on 5inch quads.
I bought one of these but it didn’t come with a control where do I get it from
Do you mean a radio? I use the jumper t-lite.
@@NickBurnsFPV yeah that’s what I meant. Do you think their is a cheaper option I can get. I’m bearly getting started and do not. No a lot about these drones
@@jeffreygonzalez8544 the cheapest option I can recommend is the radiomaster t8 lite.
The uz80 has a bad rattling/vibration coming from the motors causing issues in the longterm. Hoping this hasnt got the same problems.
I think in general iflight motors are higher quality, but this is only the second time I have flown iflight 0802 motors.
@@NickBurnsFPV not sure if the problem is from the motors themselfs as i have replaced them and with in a few flights they start getting loader again especially if props are, i wouldnt say even dameged just have had a couple flights on them, its allways the rear, it sounds like a chainsaw, and within minutes they start spitting magnets, and or loosening motor screws, maybe something wrong with combination of them the frame slightly off props and heavy on the throttle but really they shouldnt be that fragile,
@@verofpv6152 Any other changes to the UZ80? Different version of BF, changes to esc firmware?
@@NickBurnsFPV just diffrent rates and at times gemfan props.
@@verofpv6152 Maybe the props are banged up causing excess vibration creating the other issues? Just a guess.
Try a gnb 450mah ?
We would need to use a strap as the battery holder isn’t big enough for that size battery
nice review
Will it fit 40mm props?
No
Good morning brother 👍👍 Looks like a fun bird! I flight makes some good bird's. Have a great day 💪💪👊👊 pyrodrone rock's 💪
Yea, I wish they would do more like this. Maybe a 2s version
how long does the battery take to charge tho?
depends on the charger and the charging rate selected.
Hi I'm new to fpv, is this ideal for a 1st timer?
I think whoops are better suited to starting out.
Hey man this thing looks super sick! I'm new to FPV. I'm wondering if it's better to start on one of these before buying a bigger one?? And is this drone compatible with DJI goggles and remote?? How can I know if a drone is comptatible with DJI stuf?? Cheers mate!
DJI goggles are not natively compatible with this type of quad. We can make it compatible by adding a BDI adapter, analog receiver like rapidfire, and antenna like the trueRC or Axii. So that is an additional expense, something you will have to weigh. It a quad isn't described or listed as HD with caddx vista or caddx air unit, then its analog requiring the above analoge adaption.
@@NickBurnsFPV Cool thanks! I don’t understand half of what you said but no stress 😂 Are there any small smaller Fpv drones that are comptatible with Dji goggles / controller? 🙏
@@robinchills ah, the smaller ones are like the hglrc motowhoop, or the iflight a75 HD.
Of the geprc P16. This one just came to me 😀
Nick how do you bind this Baby Nazgul 73? The user manual doesnt say how to bind the quad with the frsky D8 receiver?
Hopefully d8 is covered in this video. th-cam.com/video/2QL7DWcH1G0/w-d-xo.html frsky can be a complete pain in the backside as they have really hosed things with d8 mode. If your radio is newer or has newer frsky firmware d8 mode is gone/dead. the only alternative is to switch to d16 and the range won't be very good.
@@NickBurnsFPV Yes Frsky really screwed up millions of pilots out there, especially newbies like myself. I thought D8 would be easy thats why i bought it but its complete garbage. Thanks Nick hopefully ill get to flying with the video you sent me. 👍✈️
@@NickBurnsFPV o the video didnt cover how to setup the model and bind the Nazgul. I got the receiver bound becauze the sticks are working but theres a certain way one has to setup the model and that is where i believe am getting trouble. Do you have any videos on what settings to turn onand off in the Nazgul model in Betaflight?
@@techFPV5964 I don't have setup videos on specific quads. What are you seeing that makes you look at the model file setup? If its sticks aren't correct like throttle on the radio doesn't move throttle in betaflight that is the channel map. Need to select the same channel map the radio is using.
@@NickBurnsFPV The channel map looks good at AETRA1234 and the inputs mixer are a match as well. Somehow ive lost the receiver functionality. The model os set to Failsafe "No pulses" amd something strange is happening ay Betaflight where i get no power thru the usb unless i hook up a lipo. Above auto correct it says "Virtual mode (experimental) and to the very right of tbos ot says" MSP. 1.43/Firmware 4.2. Maybe this jas something to do with no power to the usb. I was thinking about deleting BF and start anew. This is all new to me since i always got power thru the usb. I even changed cables to no avail. If i change from virtual mode to manual selection then on the left it will say "Port /dev/rfcommo. What does this tell you if anything? This nazgul has turned out to be a freakin nightmare.
Hey, what happened to the other half of Nick? Awesome results, sir!
lol. Same dude, just less to love :)
@@NickBurnsFPV Nice work man. Do a tutorial on that, would you?
@@wingsuitist I just might cover it, I have been asked a fair bit. I am a bit hesitant as its so far off channel topic. Although I am leaning towards doing it.
@@NickBurnsFPV please do! What ever you're doing is working. Looking good brotha!