I was in Scotland in March 2020, shortly before the first of many lockdowns happened, and travelled around on ScotRail nearly all of the journeys I made, including some on the class 385. I certainly enjoyed travelling on the class 385 and will head back to Scotland to travel on them again
Good stuff. All familiar stuff to me living in Gourock where the Inverclyde line terminates after splitting with the Wemyss Bay line at Port Glasgow. You should’ve taken the CalMac over to Rothesay for a wee wander.
Great vid Dylan. I work on these units from time to time. Good units in general, I agree about the seats, only other thing I noticed is depending what end of the train you sit, it can get quite noisy when the driver is braking. I believe its down to the regenerative brakes and traction motors but as I say only noticeable at one end of the train
@@moestrei fucking simple really the windows face forward so the drivers face forwards. He is responsible for the train and the passengers, its not his job to give a fucking guided tour you knob head. If you dont think it is safe keep off the trains and then theres more room for the people that have common sense. Its like putting blinkers on a race horse to keep it looking forward and stop it being distracted. Plus the fact it stops the driver seeing all the Jock junkies lying in the gutters around Glasgow and that other shithole Edinburgh. Talking of shitholes the Welsh will be introducing the class 197 (which is a rip off version of the unit in this video) as the Office for Rail and Road signed off a letter of Authorisation on the 13 January so yep they must be safe as well then.
@@darrylrichardson7940 yup it's safe as the driver on on the side where all signals etc are and there's CCTV cameras. This design is extremely common even doing back to BR days
Great video Dylan. I really enjoy your railway journey videos across the UK and Europe. I travel on the 385s everyweek from Edinburgh to Glasgow and back to visit my father in Glasgow. I personally do not like them - the seats are too hard and uncomfortable and the bright lighting inside. I live in the Scottish Borders and travel on the 170s or 158s from Galashiels to Edinburgh - i find their ride quality and comfort much better. On the 170s on that route - there are two first class sections in the three car unit and standard class tickets are valid in there - i usually get a seat in there. If those units run on the likes of Glasgow / Edinburgh - Aberdeen/Inverness - then passengers must have a first class ticket to sit there - on the Borders route - they do not bother at all. The class 385s, i find to be quite bumpy when they run at speed along the Glasgow to Edinburgh via Falkirk High Route and find that the other commuter stock have a smoother ride quality - including the 380s, the 156s, 158s and 170s. Wemyss Bay is a showpiece of a station and it is a nice journey from Glasgow Central to the small Inverclyde village and port. Great video and you have great knowledge of the local area. I had know idea that a roman fort was located near Bishopton, Renfrewshire.
Thank you. As an American whose "freedom"-loving nation decided to strip away any choice of transportation except for the car and plane, these videos give me an immense sense of enjoyment and allow me to live vicariously lol.
Very late change of requirements forced onto Hitachi by local meddling politicians; this delayed service introduction as drivers couldn't see properly.
I really feel for the drivers of those EMUs that have connecting gangways at the front of each driving coach. Not only do they mean the cab is claustrophobically small, visibility must be severely restricted which I would have thought would have been a safety issue. They are bad enough on the 380s that we have on the Ayr Line (a decent commuter train otherwise) but look even worse on the 385s. Wemyss Bay Station is magnificent by the way. It was designed by James Miller who was responsible for much of Central Station where this journey commenced. Amongst other projects he was the architect of my local station at Troon, half of which sadly burned down last summer.
The internal doors that separate the left side of the cab from the gangway walkthrough sections are able to be pushed back to allow for more cab space on some of the units which feature the gangway doors.
@@ChilternSam Ah right, I guess that takes care of my first concern then. I still worry about the gangway restricting the driver’s view though. I’ve never sat in a cab and I presume it’s passed all the relevant safety standards but I can’t help but think that if nothing else, the gangway is a distraction for the driver.
Really recommend the ferry to Isle of Bute (Rothersay) too, I think it is £6 and so much fun. The warm Scotch Pies from the bakery in Rothersay are delicious as well. Ferrys back every hour from memory.
I went on a Class 385 last year from Stirling to Edinburgh. From what I recall from the journey of the the 385 was not a bad train except for some kids screaming. To finish the journey off taking a Lothiancountry bus apart of Lothian Buses family. Which always offers exceptional first class customer service to the commuter travelling
Ahh! Memories of my visit to Wemyss Bay at the start of my UK travels in September 2018, although I had a class 380 instead of a 385. I scored a 385 later in a journey from Glasgow to Edinburgh (while Princes Street station was still a construction site). I noticed that there were no hanging baskets or stands of flowers on your visit, unlike the day I was there. On the return from Wemyss Bay, I changed at Paisley Gilmour Street to take the side trip to Ayr, again with a class 380. Took photos of the Dalry bunnies and the wreck of the hotel at Ayr that was threatening to collapse onto the railway. My train terminated in the northside bay platforms and the line was closed beyond Ayr until the hotel wall could be stabilised. Thanks again for the memories of one of my first rail journeys in the UK.
Nicely done, even with all that British rain, it just made the greenery of the landscape stand out all the better. Love that covered station in Glascow, there's nothing like lots of natural light to brighten up a space, even if its overcast and rainy. As always, loved the landscape itself.
Someone explain to ScotRail that you cannot take your belongings with you BEFORE you leave train.It's "as" you leave the train. Wemyss, architecturally my favourite station. There's a moving tribute to the highlanders and islanders who passed through here never to return. 😪
@@brianlaunchbury4491 I always take my belongings with me BEFORE I leave the train. I get my bag and stand at the doorway waiting for the train to stop. When the train stops I press the button to open the doors then I leave the train. So yes you do get your shit together before you get off.
I don't think I've ever seen trains with such awful window/seat positioning! So many seats have no view out whatsoever! A lazy and thoughtless design IMHO.
@@barrieshepherd7694 Driven by incompetent designers. If the window spacing is correct and hard seats are correctly profiled then they will be comfortable and align properly. The trains on this route were better 70 years ago.
@@physiocrat7143 Window spacing and crashworthiness are intimately intertwined. The train shell design was, I believe, a proven concept and had crashworthiness certification so was an 'off the shelf' purchase. The design/construction/placing/spacing of seats was down to whoever specified the loading and design criteria etc. As was the terrible front end.
@@barrieshepherd7694 Window spacing is quite flexible as long as there is enough solid in between. For commuter trains 1.8 metres is a good compromise. This has been specified for the HS2 trains which Hitachi is building. For inter city trains 1.9 metres is optimal eg class 180. There is no excuse for terrible front ends and uncomfortable seats. The weird front end looks expensive to build.
@@physiocrat7143 The front end was apparently mandated by Scottish Politicians / Government. I'm sure it was expensive - but it may be to do with tunnel evacuations al la Class 717 - but Siemens made a far better job of it! th-cam.com/video/v0poGWvkkQ8/w-d-xo.html
These trains seem fine to me. Wait till you try Metro North from NYC to New Haven. Talk about uncomfortable seats? Just molded fiberglass or plastic. Enjoy what you have.
Was that a Driver Only train, with a possible customer services operative? I dislike the wheelchair spaces on these, like the 800s I'm sat next to a bulkhead rather than a window - and I don't get to choose to sit at a table seat next to the window, sadly! Keep on doing such an excellent job, Dylan
Thanks for the great review Dylan. Both Glasgow Central and especially Wemyss Bay are attractive stations. The new addition to Kings Cross has a touch of the Wemyss Bay design in the curved metal roof supports. I can only imagine the throngs of passengers moving through the station and the tunnel to the ferries.
Thanks, again, Dylan, for a fascinating report on my home area trains. I do find them pretty good, especially acceleration, and they spank along terrifically between Glasgow and Edinburgh. Wemyss Bay station is a gem and it's great that the powers that be restored it a few years back. The only sad aspect is in its role as a ferry terminal. When I went to Rothesay by train a couple of years ago for a weekend break hardly anyone got off the train with us to go to the ferry. Almost everyone arrived by car. That situation is aided and abetted by the lack of co-ordination of train and ferry times, and we had to wait for nearly an hour before boarding!
Following the last video, dry and dusty, what a contrast. Personally the bright lights are good for me with failing eyesight as are the hard seats, and I think the whole concept of this train excellent. If I was well enough to get out and about I think I would spend a week touring and exploring Scottish Stations. Wemyss Bay is simply stunning as is Glasgow. Thanks Dylan, really enjoyable. Cheers, Bob
I had to find the story behind the artillery shell at 1:22. It's from WWI and was used as a collection point for hospital donations. For decades Central visitors looking to meet up with someone would say, "Meet me at the shell." There was even a song about it. It was moved around a few times, but has been returned to its rightful place under the clock.
380? Are they with the Midlands aswell? or London Midland? Also, The 385 is good as a train apart apart from the seats and the exterior looks. In my mind, Ugly.
I watched a video once about an orditer going through Manchester Piccadilly station and got pulled up by the security guards That they couldn't film I have noticed no security guards stop you and you walked straight past them at Glasgow is it different up there ?
Last time I was on that line, trains were still occasionally calling at IBM, so I jumped off & back on just so I could say I'd been there. I also took the chance to go on up the line to Gourock, yet more stunning scenery!
Most beautiful station. The first time I visited was before modernisation and have now been 4 times together with a trip on the ferry. Really enjoyable. thank you
Incompetence. A hard seat will still be comfortable for 90% of people if the profile is correct. All the information is available. It was researched in the 1950s. There is no excuse.
Dont buy your tickets before you buy because your expected train may not arrive as a regular commuter I find most trains are smelly with zero fresh air
I understand the design, but it is slightly weird to me how they are made, it makes it feel like the cabs of those units would be a bit of a challenge to drive out of, even tho I bet it isnt.
Really enjoyed this trip report! I am glad to see what the interior of Scotrail's Class 385's look like, as the trains that stop at my local station are usually Class 320's or Class 344's.
Nice journey to take on a rainy day. The train was almost empty, so I guess most people were staying in. The seats and lighting are alright for a trip of less than an hour. The green scenery looked fresh and the Firth of Clyde was impressive.
Really the seats are my only complaint about these trains. They are fast, quiet, good looking with big tables, adequate luggage and bike storage, super effective air conditioning and fairly reliable wi-fi. The 385/1s used on the Inter-city routes between Queen Street and Edinburgh/Stirling have first class, which is worth the upgrade for the comfier seats.
I was on that train last week wi' me mate just oot of Bar-L. After necking bottles of Buckie we slashed all the seats, mugged on auld biddy as she sounded English, pulled the emergecy cord and scarpered before the polis arrived. Brilliant, ya bas!
A good video which I enjoyed, thanks. It would have been nice to see you actually buy a ticket from a staffed ticket window, with a bit of human contact, but I know that young people now try to avoid as much human contact as they possibly can. I liked the display of old publicity posters on the station. You didn't mention the station at IBM which was closed in 2018 but has been mothballed, pending re-development of the site which is now subject to the planning process.
Weymss Bay sure is a beautiful looking station, just needs some passengers! Seriously though, is this route fully electrified as I saw overhead supports most of the time, I'm perplexed why they are not using an EMU instead of a DMU (sounded like a DMU with the engine noise)
Not bad, not bad at all - and to be honest, I'd rather the train lights were brighter, rather than dimmer. Wouldn't like the ironing board seats though, nor would I like the poor window alignment. But hey, since it was a quiet train, the Wi-Fi worked well enough! (Normally, as trains get busier, the wi-fi speed reduces, as more people connect to it - as the train wi-fi is just sharing one or more 4G connections throughout the train.)
Dylan, and for any other tall people who have difficulty with ticket machines.. Tap just BELOW the buttons, or use your thumb flat. The fixed screens are usually at the wrong angle for those of us who are over 6feet tall!
I was in Scotland in March 2020, shortly before the first of many lockdowns happened, and travelled around on ScotRail nearly all of the journeys I made, including some on the class 385. I certainly enjoyed travelling on the class 385 and will head back to Scotland to travel on them again
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The good old 380 is amazing you tried them?
@@weebobo955 yes I have. They are certainly good
@@weebobo955 I prefer the 380
@@btuckervideos4705 will you come back to Scotland?
0:40 That's Scotland when it comes to the weather.
Good stuff. All familiar stuff to me living in Gourock where the Inverclyde line terminates after splitting with the Wemyss Bay line at Port Glasgow. You should’ve taken the CalMac over to Rothesay for a wee wander.
Great vid Dylan. I work on these units from time to time. Good units in general, I agree about the seats, only other thing I noticed is depending what end of the train you sit, it can get quite noisy when the driver is braking. I believe its down to the regenerative brakes and traction motors but as I say only noticeable at one end of the train
As a loco driver I would hate this train: You can see only 1/2 of the world around you. Is that even safe?
Dont think the train driver should be looking at the scenery
@@darrylrichardson7940 Hundreds of people understood what I meant, one didn't :(
@@moestrei fucking simple really the windows face forward so the drivers face forwards. He is responsible for the train and the passengers, its not his job to give a fucking guided tour you knob head. If you dont think it is safe keep off the trains and then theres more room for the people that have common sense. Its like putting blinkers on a race horse to keep it looking forward and stop it being distracted. Plus the fact it stops the driver seeing all the Jock junkies lying in the gutters around Glasgow and that other shithole Edinburgh. Talking of shitholes the Welsh will be introducing the class 197 (which is a rip off version of the unit in this video) as the Office for Rail and Road signed off a letter of Authorisation on the 13 January so yep they must be safe as well then.
@@darrylrichardson7940 yup it's safe as the driver on on the side where all signals etc are and there's CCTV cameras. This design is extremely common even doing back to BR days
I definitely see your point, but it's not any less safe as you can still scan platforms and see signals regardless if they're offset or not
Great review as always! That station was magnificent though! 🤯
I planning on visiting Wemyss Bay in June, like you I've wanted to go there for many a year. Thanks for giving me further inspiration.
Great video Dylan. Class 385s are really good trains I can't explain 👍
I certainly agree Arnold, probably my favourite units within the ScotRail fleet, though the class 380's are good too
@@btuckervideos4705 I like 380s as well
Dylan's why don't. You try the Glasgow queen Street train service to dalmuir
Great video Dylan. I really enjoy your railway journey videos across the UK and Europe. I travel on the 385s everyweek from Edinburgh to Glasgow and back to visit my father in Glasgow. I personally do not like them - the seats are too hard and uncomfortable and the bright lighting inside. I live in the Scottish Borders and travel on the 170s or 158s from Galashiels to Edinburgh - i find their ride quality and comfort much better. On the 170s on that route - there are two first class sections in the three car unit and standard class tickets are valid in there - i usually get a seat in there. If those units run on the likes of Glasgow / Edinburgh - Aberdeen/Inverness - then passengers must have a first class ticket to sit there - on the Borders route - they do not bother at all. The class 385s, i find to be quite bumpy when they run at speed along the Glasgow to Edinburgh via Falkirk High Route and find that the other commuter stock have a smoother ride quality - including the 380s, the 156s, 158s and 170s.
Wemyss Bay is a showpiece of a station and it is a nice journey from Glasgow Central to the small Inverclyde village and port. Great video and you have great knowledge of the local area. I had know idea that a roman fort was located near Bishopton, Renfrewshire.
Good to see ma home town ah glesga ( glasgow ) and the trip to whems bay keep up the good work and grate videos
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Got to say, I ;m not a fan of front ends of these. Just a personal thing
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Destination boards don't like to be recorded.
I like scotrail class 385 go on class385 from edinburgh to Glasgow Queen street
I thought you may have done a rail sail trip to Rothesay I'm in Glasgow next month
Thank you for pronouncing (Scots) Gaelic properly
Are these similar to TFW 197’s and West Midlands Railway 196?
Did you give the Clockwork Orange a ride in Glasgow?
Have you been to Edinburgh
They dont make stations like that one anymore....a shame.
I miss the 314s so much, shame the 385s replaced them.
One has been saved and preserved for Hydrogen conversion (Class 614).
Leg rooms unsatisfactory if your over 6'2
i must say, the train looks very ugly in my opinion
Thank you. As an American whose "freedom"-loving nation decided to strip away any choice of transportation except for the car and plane, these videos give me an immense sense of enjoyment and allow me to live vicariously lol.
Those front ends of the Hitachi train are hideous lol.
Very late change of requirements forced onto Hitachi by local meddling politicians; this delayed service introduction as drivers couldn't see properly.
I really feel for the drivers of those EMUs that have connecting gangways at the front of each driving coach. Not only do they mean the cab is claustrophobically small, visibility must be severely restricted which I would have thought would have been a safety issue. They are bad enough on the 380s that we have on the Ayr Line (a decent commuter train otherwise) but look even worse on the 385s.
Wemyss Bay Station is magnificent by the way. It was designed by James Miller who was responsible for much of Central Station where this journey commenced. Amongst other projects he was the architect of my local station at Troon, half of which sadly burned down last summer.
The internal doors that separate the left side of the cab from the gangway walkthrough sections are able to be pushed back to allow for more cab space on some of the units which feature the gangway doors.
@@ChilternSam Ah right, I guess that takes care of my first concern then. I still worry about the gangway restricting the driver’s view though. I’ve never sat in a cab and I presume it’s passed all the relevant safety standards but I can’t help but think that if nothing else, the gangway is a distraction for the driver.
It comes from "styling" and looks awful anyway. The designs got gangwayed front ends right with the 158s, Electrostars and class 450 sets.
And the protruding diaphragms are so ugly and un-streamlined.
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Are you referring to the pigs' snouts?
Award winning Wemyss Bay station usually looks much nicer when all the planters are dripping with foliage and colour.
Really recommend the ferry to Isle of Bute (Rothersay) too, I think it is £6 and so much fun. The warm Scotch Pies from the bakery in Rothersay are delicious as well. Ferrys back every hour from memory.
I went on a Class 385 last year from Stirling to Edinburgh. From what I recall from the journey of the the 385 was not a bad train except for some kids screaming. To finish the journey off taking a Lothiancountry bus apart of Lothian Buses family. Which always offers exceptional first class customer service to the commuter travelling
Ahh! Memories of my visit to Wemyss Bay at the start of my UK travels in September 2018, although I had a class 380 instead of a 385. I scored a 385 later in a journey from Glasgow to Edinburgh (while Princes Street station was still a construction site). I noticed that there were no hanging baskets or stands of flowers on your visit, unlike the day I was there. On the return from Wemyss Bay, I changed at Paisley Gilmour Street to take the side trip to Ayr, again with a class 380. Took photos of the Dalry bunnies and the wreck of the hotel at Ayr that was threatening to collapse onto the railway. My train terminated in the northside bay platforms and the line was closed beyond Ayr until the hotel wall could be stabilised. Thanks again for the memories of one of my first rail journeys in the UK.
What a fantastic station and a great journey we went on the other side of the Clyde when we were there three years ago.👍👍🇦🇺
Nicely done, even with all that British rain, it just made the greenery of the landscape stand out all the better. Love that covered station in Glascow, there's nothing like lots of natural light to brighten up a space, even if its overcast and rainy. As always, loved the landscape itself.
The 380 is a far superior product. Those ironing board seats are a disgrace. Good video nonetheless.
Someone explain to ScotRail that you cannot take your belongings with you BEFORE you leave train.It's "as" you leave the train. Wemyss, architecturally my favourite station. There's a moving tribute to the highlanders and islanders who passed through here never to return. 😪
Doesn't it say please 'make sure' to take your belongings with you before you leave the train?
@@david-stewart It should still be "as".
@@brianlaunchbury4491 I always take my belongings with me BEFORE I leave the train. I get my bag and stand at the doorway waiting for the train to stop. When the train stops I press the button to open the doors then I leave the train. So yes you do get your shit together before you get off.
I don't think I've ever seen trains with such awful window/seat positioning! So many seats have no view out whatsoever! A lazy and thoughtless design IMHO.
Driven by construction crash worthiness requirements and Government Accountants at the DFT wanting to squeeze the most passengers in as possible
@@barrieshepherd7694 Driven by incompetent designers. If the window spacing is correct and hard seats are correctly profiled then they will be comfortable and align properly. The trains on this route were better 70 years ago.
@@physiocrat7143 Window spacing and crashworthiness are intimately intertwined. The train shell design was, I believe, a proven concept and had crashworthiness certification so was an 'off the shelf' purchase. The design/construction/placing/spacing of seats was down to whoever specified the loading and design criteria etc. As was the terrible front end.
@@barrieshepherd7694
Window spacing is quite flexible as long as there is enough solid in between. For commuter trains 1.8 metres is a good compromise. This has been specified for the HS2 trains which Hitachi is building. For inter city trains 1.9 metres is optimal eg class 180.
There is no excuse for terrible front ends and uncomfortable seats. The weird front end looks expensive to build.
@@physiocrat7143 The front end was apparently mandated by Scottish Politicians / Government. I'm sure it was expensive - but it may be to do with tunnel evacuations al la Class 717 - but Siemens made a far better job of it! th-cam.com/video/v0poGWvkkQ8/w-d-xo.html
Wemyss Bay station is amazing! I love the architecture
How did they end up with that piggy wiggy front end?
I remember better trains on this route in the 1950s.
These trains seem fine to me. Wait till you try Metro North from NYC to New Haven. Talk about uncomfortable seats? Just molded fiberglass or plastic. Enjoy what you have.
I have heard that drivers don't like them trains because they give limited views out the cab
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I did this journey myself about 12 years ago . It's beautiful around that area, we stayed at the holiday park upon the hill . Great video too 👍
Cant the seats ever be frickin comfortable on scot rail now aswell like on thameslink?
Seems to me that Scots railway users are heavily subsidised; £8.50 is remarkably cheap
Was that a Driver Only train, with a possible customer services operative?
I dislike the wheelchair spaces on these, like the 800s I'm sat next to a bulkhead rather than a window - and I don't get to choose to sit at a table seat next to the window, sadly!
Keep on doing such an excellent job, Dylan
Everyone loves Scotland don’t they
Except the homeless dropouts sleeping under the railway arches just round the corner from Glasgow central station.
Well yeah of course
Thanks for the great review Dylan. Both Glasgow Central and especially Wemyss Bay are attractive stations. The new addition to Kings Cross has a touch of the Wemyss Bay design in the curved metal roof supports. I can only imagine the throngs of passengers moving through the station and the tunnel to the ferries.
Thanks, again, Dylan, for a fascinating report on my home area trains. I do find them pretty good, especially acceleration, and they spank along terrifically between Glasgow and Edinburgh. Wemyss Bay station is a gem and it's great that the powers that be restored it a few years back. The only sad aspect is in its role as a ferry terminal. When I went to Rothesay by train a couple of years ago for a weekend break hardly anyone got off the train with us to go to the ferry. Almost everyone arrived by car. That situation is aided and abetted by the lack of co-ordination of train and ferry times, and we had to wait for nearly an hour before boarding!
Found colour scheme bland, well grey really.
You know I watch these videos to see where I should go right? £112 out my pocket and we going to Scotland 🏴
Following the last video, dry and dusty, what a contrast. Personally the bright lights are good for me with failing eyesight as are the hard seats, and I think the whole concept of this train excellent.
If I was well enough to get out and about I think I would spend a week touring and exploring Scottish Stations. Wemyss Bay is simply stunning as is Glasgow.
Thanks Dylan, really enjoyable.
Cheers, Bob
An attractive part of the world. Rain comes as standard.
If you went on a Sunday round about the time of recording you would of seen the royal Scotsman sitting on the adjacent platform at Wemyss bay
awsome review dylan mate i love the interia and the train livery
I had to find the story behind the artillery shell at 1:22. It's from WWI and was used as a collection point for hospital donations. For decades Central visitors looking to meet up with someone would say, "Meet me at the shell." There was even a song about it. It was moved around a few times, but has been returned to its rightful place under the clock.
I was sat on Thameslink’s ironing board seats for about 2 hours and honestly, they’re better than the greater Anglia seats that I’m used to.
Those seats do look abysmal. Thin and totally uninviting.
7:18 i heard the word "filming" coming from the guy you passed! I assume the words "wit ye" came before it lol
Please use captions not voice!
Great video ! Iam looking forward to visiting Wemyss Bay and the highland when i go to Scotland
380? Are they with the Midlands aswell? or London Midland? Also, The 385 is good as a train apart apart from the seats and the exterior looks. In my mind, Ugly.
I watched a video once about an orditer going through Manchester Piccadilly station and got pulled up by the security guards
That they couldn't film
I have noticed no security guards stop you
and you walked straight past them at Glasgow
is it different up there ?
Last time I was on that line, trains were still occasionally calling at IBM, so I jumped off & back on just so I could say I'd been there. I also took the chance to go on up the line to Gourock, yet more stunning scenery!
Most beautiful station. The first time I visited was before modernisation and have now been 4 times together with a trip on the ferry. Really enjoyable. thank you
ScotRail Class 385
I love rainy days in the U.K.
Why are pretty much every new commuter train (Classes 195, 385, 331, 345) fitted with these stupid ironing board seats?
DfT specifying them to be built to a price point, would be my guess.
Incompetence. A hard seat will still be comfortable for 90% of people if the profile is correct. All the information is available. It was researched in the 1950s. There is no excuse.
Dont buy your tickets before you buy because your expected train may not arrive as a regular commuter I find most trains are smelly with zero fresh air
Thanks. Might have been good to show the ferry terminal also, for Rothesay on Isle of Bute?
A very good video to watch.
Thanks
I understand the design, but it is slightly weird to me how they are made, it makes it feel like the cabs of those units would be a bit of a challenge to drive out of, even tho I bet it isnt.
Really enjoyed this trip report! I am glad to see what the interior of Scotrail's Class 385's look like, as the trains that stop at my local station are usually Class 320's or Class 344's.
Dylan's l would love to see ScotRail to purchase Northern trains here in Hull as we only have the old trains
Nice journey to take on a rainy day. The train was almost empty, so I guess most people were staying in. The seats and lighting are alright for a trip of less than an hour. The green scenery looked fresh and the Firth of Clyde was impressive.
Really the seats are my only complaint about these trains. They are fast, quiet, good looking with big tables, adequate luggage and bike storage, super effective air conditioning and fairly reliable wi-fi.
The 385/1s used on the Inter-city routes between Queen Street and Edinburgh/Stirling have first class, which is worth the upgrade for the comfier seats.
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What about the 'Geoff Marshall elbow test'?
I love these trains, especially the "IronBoard" seats. Comfortable, great shape and position.
I Think The More Uncomfortable Of The Fansia Sofa Design Seats Are Thameslink 700
I agree!
I was on that train last week wi' me mate just oot of Bar-L. After necking bottles of Buckie we slashed all the seats, mugged on auld biddy as she sounded English, pulled the emergecy cord and scarpered before the polis arrived. Brilliant, ya bas!
This is after you edited?
I do like those 385s and find the seating and lighting excellent, ideal for my needs :-)
Mate I went to Central Station so I went on that day don't mate I've seen you mate
And go on Edinburgh trams from newhaven to airport
Brilliant video legend I like 385
Always good videos, Dylan. I love the Scandanavian ones, too. Scotland next on a sleeper!
Great video👍👍👍
Excellent 👍👍👍
A good video which I enjoyed, thanks. It would have been nice to see you actually buy a ticket from a staffed ticket window, with a bit of human contact, but I know that young people now try to avoid as much human contact as they possibly can. I liked the display of old publicity posters on the station. You didn't mention the station at IBM which was closed in 2018 but has been mothballed, pending re-development of the site which is now subject to the planning process.
We need 385 on stepford connect or airlink.
does anyone know the app Dylan uses for determining the speed the train is going ? I've looked but can't find one ..... technophobe !! lol
It's called Speedometer
Excellent as usual and very informative.
Weymss Bay sure is a beautiful looking station, just needs some passengers! Seriously though, is this route fully electrified as I saw overhead supports most of the time, I'm perplexed why they are not using an EMU instead of a DMU (sounded like a DMU with the engine noise)
Ian this journey was onboard a Class 385 EMU
The weymss bay line is fully electrified,as is the gourock line Which it splits from at port Glasgow
It is an EMU.
The class 385 is a EMU Not a DMU lol
nice video,,,
So do they have engines at both ends of the train?
Welcome to this service for Weymss bay
I know that hemming with the ticket machines!
He's not too good with the machines hahaha
Edinburgh Waverley is bigger
Not bad, not bad at all - and to be honest, I'd rather the train lights were brighter, rather than dimmer.
Wouldn't like the ironing board seats though, nor would I like the poor window alignment.
But hey, since it was a quiet train, the Wi-Fi worked well enough! (Normally, as trains get busier, the wi-fi speed reduces, as more people connect to it - as the train wi-fi is just sharing one or more 4G connections throughout the train.)
Dylan, and for any other tall people who have difficulty with ticket machines.. Tap just BELOW the buttons, or use your thumb flat. The fixed screens are usually at the wrong angle for those of us who are over 6feet tall!