I’d love to see them do a version of this one a foot or two longer for two reasons: 1) gotta have a 60 x 80 true queen bed. 2) prefer tandem axle for safety - if you get a tire failure while in transit, your going to appreciate having another tire holding up that side especially if you’re on an 7-10% downhill grade in the mountains. A third bonus on the tandem axle should allow more cargo capacity- but need to emphasize- please keep the hitch light! This trailer’s market will be people with average half ton trucks.
Thing is, many people think a tandem axle gives you run flat redundancy, but it doesn't. A leaf spring suspension will drop the rim of the flat on the ground anyways. Only a dually tire or rubber torsion suspension will work as you describe. Plus twice the tires means twice the chance of flats, etc. I just prefer to run heavy duty spec tires and you keep them within proper age, and you'll reduce your chances of a flat very significantly.
@@aarronwoods6389 in theory yes, but in reality there is nothing above the axle to hook a chain or strap on. Maybe a flatbed trailer with a more open frame perhaps. In reality a spare tire can be changed quicker. With tandems, I have found about 90% of the time the front tire flips up the nail and the back tire catches it 🤣. Very seldom do I get the puncture in the front tire. But by going to a better 12 ply tire, it will all but eliminate those issues.
Exactly what I am looking for: true queen, no slide, dry bath double axle and still not too heavy. i.e 3300 or less. Let me know if you know such a coach.
Thank you Wildwood for hooking Josh and the Nerd Herd up with some RV content. This looks great, love the pass-through bathroom. I wish more manufactures would do this. I get why some people don't like it, but for the reason you just called out, it gives privacy to adults which you typically can't get in this size.
@@kirkbierl2552 still love it. Having 4 people in it is really only optimal for short periods of time on occasion. Battery is the biggest issue. Need to upgrade. Other than that. We still love it. No major issues.
@@JsmithDiscGolfwhat would you upgrade to? And do you know how much those are cost wise? Thank you so much we’re getting ready to order a 2020 for Salem FSX. I love the blue color.
@@JsmithDiscGolf I truly wished I could’ve got the herringbone flooring. But I love the pocket doors in the 2023 2024s. And I would prefer the gray cabinets in the 2022. It’s just so hard to decide. Did you guys get the table with the swing top or just the standard legs? Gosh that swing top is so low I weigh less than 200 pounds and it’s Just so close to the tops of my legs when I’m sitting in the dinette. And what do you do with the table top and arm if you wanted to disassemble it so it’s just a sitting spot?
Josh: There’s definitely a lot going for this RV. Absolutely love the no slide out design. The private bedroom is a real plus. But there are two considerations, in my opinion, that Salem Wildwood should re-examine. The first is making a version that has a 60 x 80 true queen bed. The second is a tandem axle trailer. A tandem axle adds safety and increased cargo capacity. Without both of these two things, there’s no sale to wife and I. Respectfully, W.S.
I’m an old tent camper and still tent camp with scouts and I have a single axle camper a 2020 Springdale mini BH 1800 but I’m loving this floor plan on this new camper
Love this!!❤ Two queen beds, full bath, a trailer for hunting, couples camping or camping with the grandbabies. The sink is okay and the fridge is the bomb!
Picking one up next week for me and the pup to live in while I retire out of the military. Shopped around for a long time and the private bedroom sold me on this model.
Amazing windows, large fridge and huge tanks for a single axle trailer. I would only need another seating option other than the dinette. Trust me on this, if you've EVER owned an RV where your only sitting/lounging option is atop a thin dinette seat cushion that flattens out to nothing in 30 minutes; you'll know what I'm talking about.
Just a thought: You can always upgrade the cushions. I would make oversized zipper cases and stuff extra blankets in them. It adds padding, easily removed to wash, and stores extra blankets/pillows! I work from a laptop, so I definitely agree with you about extra padding, but I love the versatility of a u-dinette for extra prep/work/craft space, seating capacity and positions (I prefer to sit yoga style, but my other half needs to lie down to relieve back pain...so this option gives us room to do that and still be together), and sleeping space if necessary. The swivel table is a nice feature, too.
In order of priority my requested changes would be 1. Just a smidge longer to fit a full queen 2. Tandem axles 3. Theater seats in place of the dinette Then I think I could talk the wife into it!
I would love this for a 2 foot longer normal (dual axle) series of this floorplan - 6" in the bath, 6" in the bedroom (full queen!) and another foot in the living/kitchen. Fantastic offering though.
I think it's cute. Just enough bigger than a teardrop to give you are real bedroom with a walk around bed, dry bathroom and a full kitchen but still light enough to be easily towable. Luckily I'm only 5'6", but I could see wanting another foot for a true queen.
This model would be awesome with a couple modifications. Change the sink to a rectangular sink. Change the dinette from a U-dinette to an L-dinette and run the kitchen counter and under counter cabinets down the left side of the camper. Add the front windshield. The extra counter isn't exactly needed but the under counter kitchen storage is needed because there is very little storage for dishes, utensils, drinkware, cookware, and food. These changes would make it perfect for my wife and I. It would be a really nice couples camper.
Me, too. Twin option with the front windshield would allow "living" use of all windows as could use the twin beds as 'daybed' sofa type things. While my truck is a beauty, looking at the back of it may not be as pleasing to others (spouse) as other surroundings.
Wish the drawers were under the sink and there was a stove with oven with a pots & pans drawer under it. That space left in the corner could be great for garbage & recycling bins. Too bad the cargo capacity is tight but it's a great concept. Rear bedrooms make more sense to me cuz you wouldn't hear as much "street" noise. Probably minimal but every little bit helps.
If they put a murphy bed in there that would be unbelievable because be perfect for watching TV and then pull it out when you go to bed so you basically have a TV room
The ccc is definitely a consideration for why i wish this had dual axles. I do love that the 2024s did add the nosecap windshield bc it adds some great light. If this was a foot longer to accommodate a true queen or camp queen with a dual axle to accommodate a larger ccc, it would be a no brainer for me
This one and the bed slide (no bunk model) are both very nice floorplans. Wish there was a better way for the living area TV to be placed but understand there really is no other option. But on the quest of solo camper with room for my dad to crash for a race weekend this one checks most boxes, separate sleeping areas, bathroom that can be accessed from either side, central air.
I have a similar setup with my Vista Cruiser 19ERD so it's good to see another mfg make this. My only suggestion would be to flip the bedroom and dinette so that the dinette is in the back and include large surrounding windows on all three sides. This would create a nice open feel gathering/eating area.
I like the idea of a rear dinette with full surround windows, but that separates the bathroom from the bedroom. IMO, the DRY master bathroom feel combined with a private bedroom that you can close off from the main living area makes this little camper ON POINT! But everyone's needs are different!😉
Thank you for explaining why the skylight in the shower is oriented as it is. I would also prefer a rectangular kitchen sink. Overall I think this is a good set of compromises for the size of the camper.
This one is soooo close to the perfect layout! I'd love to see this in a slightly longer version (around 25' max overall) with dual axles. Love the rear bedroom!! You can sleep away from the street side and enjoy the view of your site better. A standard queen would be great but I'd be willing to sacrifice if they adjusted the living area a bit. It would be amazing if, instead of the U dinette, they put a breakfast bar/desk on the camp side to the right of the door as you go in and a theater seat on the opposite side to really make that living space awesome. They'd have to move the junk in the trunk storage. But that would be a small sacrifice. A little overhead storage in that area or at least some sort of tall cabinet/pantry would really round it out. Being able to sit and work or enjoy your morning coffee and look out at your campsite in the morning would be so great. A front windshield would definitely make that front space feel more open as well but not a deal breaker. I agree about putting a square sink in that same spot instead of a round one. Keep the faucet where it is. Lose the outside griddle. With these changes it would be perfect and I'd be getting on the wait list to buy it.
Great review!! Keep up the great work educating buyers. I love your reviews and new owner vids!! I've owned my '23 FR Salem 161QKX for the last 7 months and love it. I tow it around easily with my Honda Ridgeline (and so you're correct that a Tacoma, Colorado, or medium SUV with the right package should have no problem). No issues with the round kitchen sink (and it actually makes tucking a small Keurig in the corner easier. One concern is the bathroom sink -- it's way too small and shallow resulting in water spills water all around the counter (even when being really careful). The U-shaped dinette/rotating tabletop serves as an excellent remote work space by day and dining / poker table at night. Storage is MORE than adequate. I keep the camper at my hunt lease and keep my fishing gear, extension cords, and water hoses in the forward storage space. In the back storage area, I store pop up blinds, shooting sticks, tripod hunting chairs, bags of charcoal, starter logs, with room to spare.
Good to read your feedback on this trailer. I have a Ridgeline also and was wondering how it felt towing this one. What's your take on the quality of the build on this one?
I just bought one last week. It is great for the dog and I. My dog loves it! It has a great amount of room for me. I love the separate shower and bath which gives privacy for both. I take my parents with me and they are great fans of the separate bedroom. I feel safer in this camper due to the door being in the front and I am able to shut my bedroom door. I had a window put in the front. I LOVE IT. It really makes the trailer bigger than it really is. There are few things that need to be worked on but it is great to camp in!!
I love watching your videos. I learn a lot and laugh a lot! Love this little camper. I am just not a fan of a walk through bath room. Had a diesel pusher with middle bath for 13 years and with more people than 2 in that config, it gets to be a crazy wait for either getting in the bathroom or getting in the bedroom if either is occupied.
You really have to plan your cookware to your appliances. A small round sink might work for most cookware. And dont forget there's an outside shower for big stuff.
Pretty neat. A nice, lightweight couples trailer, with some neat updates. I really like the layout. I love the shower separate from the rest of the bathroom. If someone's in the shower, it doesn't tie up the whole bathroom. I wish more trailers did that. The private bath and big dinette are really cool. I like the Bluetooth speaker. I prefer those to built-in sound system, with speakers inside and out.
Hey Josh, very new to this travel trailer thingy and doing my research on these size trailers. This one has just about the best features I've seen so far. Love your video's ! Keep up the good work and thank you for the insight!
Nice little camper! I love the cabinet color and the flooring color. Makes it look light and airy. At my age, I would rather have comfortable seating rather than that huge dinette but that's just me and this unit is too small for our needs anyway. The kitchen is pretty nice for the size. The bathroom and bedroom are great for privacy. You mentioned the toilet was hidden nicely. Yes but its reflection glares at us in the refrigerator door 😜 a bit unnerving 😳 I do love your videos with the good and the bad. So informative. Keep up the great work 👍
Yeah it's definitely for a specific set of folks. I could see someone wanting something a little more plush eventually But I also like this thing. Could be a great single parent camper for example
Check out the Gulf Stream Vista cruiser 19 ERD. It’s the same basic floor plan but the dinette is at the rear. BIG windows mean Great views of mountains/lakes/rivers/ocean while drinking coffee or if it’s cold/raining out. We spent 7 weeks in ours last year and it was amazing.
I love the front dinette. Yes, I think it needs a window in the front. Also, maybe a little shield of some type next to the stove. It's a little close to the seating area in my opinion. Otherwise, this is a very clever floor plan for a small trailer. Very different which is nice. Keep up the good work! Always appreciate your candor in your reviews.
@@JoshtheRVNerd yeah it is hard to tell the quality of the build in a video. I saw some Wildwood fifth wheels and the cabinets were like cardboard, sooooo … 🤷🏻♀️ But the colors and hardware and countertop etc is really modern and nice. 👍☺️
WILDWOOD LISTEN UP! Great little camper. Take this up a notch more. Tandem axle, add a couple feet, make the rear bed rise to the ceiling, add a ramp door, and make it a TOY HAULER. The rear bedroom could be about 10 feet to allow for a full queen and some spacing for a toy. Another great video Josh!
Would be nice if they could make it available with twin beds. The hanging wardrobes could be moved to the foot side of the beds. The campsite window is too big for my liking. The other trailer with the rear desk could also be converted to twin beds too.
Yes! to window in cap over dinette. Just add a dual axle to solve your Cargo Capacity. This is not a small length trailer! (in my opinion). Add one more vent to the bedroom for 2 circular vents. Move the outside grill to over the tire, under the awning (add that bar to the outside, that it can hook on) where it currently is, you’ll keep getting hit by the door, & your might be standing in the sun when cooking! This would also give you a true pass-through. Love the kitchen! Love the bathroom/shower!
Love this floor plan. Don't need the single Axel or the dinette. But I love the direction. I'd love this more beefed up in a 3 to "4" season camper. With a couch/ loveseat option instead of a dinette. But I'm excited for a small camper with a private room. Keep'em coming!
Now this would be my dream camper. It’s perfect for the wife and myself. Thanks Josh, always enjoy your honesty, integrity and thorough descriptions 👍🏻
They should put a cabinet/ hidden bunk above the dinette. Make it sleep 5. THAT would make this the perfect RV! LOVE the Rear private bedroom....thats a must. But need occasional extra 3 ppl, for when we bring the kids and grandkids
As a former Shasta 21CK owner, this is a great floorplan. I like the rear bedroom. What could they do with another 3 feet of length and full 8 foot width 🤔.
Glad you mentioned the bit about cargo capacity. I'd be mostly boondocking so now I'm leaning towards dual axle with its higher cargo capacity (in this case, water). Thsnks for another great and useful video.
It looks like a nice design, but it's funny you mentioned that the toilet was out of sight. It's actually reflecting off of the refrigerator door on several shots. I wondered why you didn't close the bathroom door, lol. I think they should have modeled it after the lazy days 27 Midbath. A swinging door on the kitchen side that would close off the toilet from view yet leave a hall open to the bedroom. Swing the door the other way to connect with the shower wall for a private shower.
I noticed the reflection too 😂, but I like that I can keep them open, close off the bathroom while cooking, or have the bathroom accessible for guests, but still have a private bedroom.
Yes I like it so far... 🎉#NerdHerd.... I would have done this if I didn't need a recliner but going to share this with a friend who is on the bubble of getting into campers.
@@JoshtheRVNerd always for you... Glad you were doing you back when I was looking and needing the info.... I am happy to share you, your videos and your business with others who are like me (just learning or a few years into) this wonderful happy lifestyle.... Best thing I ever did was finding your video.
I really like this one compared to the 169RSKX slide-out model. Something about the 161QK's bedroom layout really does it for me. If it was 4'-ish longer with dual axle, it'd be a head to head contender with the 171RBXL. I think the 171's shoulda had a bathroom sliding barn door as well. Its not often you see bathroom doors go all the way to the floor, they did this one right. The single axle is a deal breaker, thus the 171 wins out. The 161 would be amazing with a front windshield!!! Super nice rig, I really like it!. I'll give it a walk through before signing up for the 171. Good dinette seating vs dual axle and big bathroom though, that's a tough one. Thanks for the vid!
I agree with you, I'm very excited to see a couples trailer with a desk. I would like to see one maybe with a double axle with full queen bed & 2 ac vents in the bedroom and slide without a step. Just my takeaways. But I like where they are going with this model. Thanks for the video
Very nice little trailer with the price point that you show anyone who buys one is getting a lot of bang for the buck Keep up the good work and keep us entertained at the same time. Thanks, Josh.
I’d like it better if 8’ wide. Theater seating or sofa with attachable table instead of dinette. I don’t mind round sink in kitchen as long as it’s deep enough.
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That's a well thought out unit...I'm impressed after 28years in this business...it's impressive. Please note that the AC Ducts can be closed off, which never really happens. the windows are awesome....Tight little package! I like it.
Super small camper! Terrific floor plan & storage. Tank sizes adequate. Love the private bedroom! Like the decor colors too. As usual I'd like to see a tandem axle for safer towing please😊 Thx nerd you're the best! 🐾😎👍
My husband and I just bought a Grand Design Imagine Aim 15RB and so loving it. The only thing that we didn't like is the TV in it was not high def and it didn't have an HDMI port. You pay a lot for a trailer and you expect not to get ancient technology.
Nice layout, I like the separation between living/sleeping areas. Personally, I would prefer a rectangular sink instead of the round one. Is there storage under the seating area?? I would hope so. Otherwise, there isn't a lit of room for kitchen items or board games 😂 thanks for the video!!
I like this one. It reminds me of an Airstream layout with Forest River price and quality. It fits a need well. I appreciate you looking out for us with the cargo capacity warning!
Wow this is awesome!.. The single axle is a bummer. What would make this the Holy Grail for me would be tandem axle and twin beds in the private bedroom 👍
Salem and Wildwood have done it again! Before this camper, the only camper that fit for me was the 179DBKX, which is another layout unique to them. I am so excited and impressed by the innovations and fresh thinking they're bringing into the Truck and SUV towable camper market.
I’d love to see them do a version of this one a foot or two longer for two reasons: 1) gotta have a 60 x 80 true queen bed. 2) prefer tandem axle for safety - if you get a tire failure while in transit, your going to appreciate having another tire holding up that side especially if you’re on an 7-10% downhill grade in the mountains. A third bonus on the tandem axle should allow more cargo capacity- but need to emphasize- please keep the hitch light! This trailer’s market will be people with average half ton trucks.
I could really see it..
Thing is, many people think a tandem axle gives you run flat redundancy, but it doesn't. A leaf spring suspension will drop the rim of the flat on the ground anyways. Only a dually tire or rubber torsion suspension will work as you describe. Plus twice the tires means twice the chance of flats, etc. I just prefer to run heavy duty spec tires and you keep them within proper age, and you'll reduce your chances of a flat very significantly.
@@scubasteve7946 a guy could alway install a limiting strap or even ratchet strap in a pinch the keep the spring from decompressing all the way.
@@aarronwoods6389 in theory yes, but in reality there is nothing above the axle to hook a chain or strap on. Maybe a flatbed trailer with a more open frame perhaps.
In reality a spare tire can be changed quicker.
With tandems, I have found about 90% of the time the front tire flips up the nail and the back tire catches it 🤣. Very seldom do I get the puncture in the front tire. But by going to a better 12 ply tire, it will all but eliminate those issues.
Exactly what I am looking for: true queen, no slide, dry bath double axle and still not too heavy. i.e 3300 or less. Let me know if you know such a coach.
Improvements:
•Rectangle sink
•Right-side Counter extension
•Double Pane European Acrylic Windows with built in shades and blinds
Thank you Wildwood for hooking Josh and the Nerd Herd up with some RV content. This looks great, love the pass-through bathroom. I wish more manufactures would do this. I get why some people don't like it, but for the reason you just called out, it gives privacy to adults which you typically can't get in this size.
@xPaPaDx hahaha, fair enough ;)
I bought one of these a few weeks ago. It is incredible. My Wife and I love this layout!
That's GREAT to hear! TY!
After eight months of owning your camper I was thinking about buying one of these. How do you feel about it now?
@@kirkbierl2552 still love it. Having 4 people in it is really only optimal for short periods of time on occasion. Battery is the biggest issue. Need to upgrade. Other than that. We still love it. No major issues.
@@JsmithDiscGolfwhat would you upgrade to? And do you know how much those are cost wise? Thank you so much we’re getting ready to order a 2020 for Salem FSX. I love the blue color.
@@JsmithDiscGolf I truly wished I could’ve got the herringbone flooring. But I love the pocket doors in the 2023 2024s. And I would prefer the gray cabinets in the 2022. It’s just so hard to decide. Did you guys get the table with the swing top or just the standard legs? Gosh that swing top is so low I weigh less than 200 pounds and it’s Just so close to the tops of my legs when I’m sitting in the dinette. And what do you do with the table top and arm if you wanted to disassemble it so it’s just a sitting spot?
Josh: There’s definitely a lot going for this RV. Absolutely love the no slide out design. The private bedroom is a real plus. But there are two considerations, in my opinion, that Salem Wildwood should re-examine. The first is making a version that has a 60 x 80 true queen bed. The second is a tandem axle trailer. A tandem axle adds safety and increased cargo capacity. Without both of these two things, there’s no sale to wife and I. Respectfully, W.S.
I could totally see this on a tandem design
I’m an old tent camper and still tent camp with scouts and I have a single axle camper a 2020 Springdale mini BH 1800 but I’m loving this floor plan on this new camper
Nice setup for 1-2 people
Love this!!❤ Two queen beds, full bath, a trailer for hunting, couples camping or camping with the grandbabies. The sink is okay and the fridge is the bomb!
Okay, the big dinette and no slide, private bedroom with cooling/air vents in all three spaces! Fabulous.
☺ It's almost odd you don't see more things that check those boxes!
Picking one up next week for me and the pup to live in while I retire out of the military. Shopped around for a long time and the private bedroom sold me on this model.
Nice! Hope you two have some safe travels!
OH WOW!!!! This is different from anything you've ever shown. This is an entriguing couples or small family camper!!!! HOLYSHIT JOSH!!!!
Hahah
There is a lot to love about this one, especially at that size.
Agreed!
Amazing windows, large fridge and huge tanks for a single axle trailer. I would only need another seating option other than the dinette. Trust me on this, if you've EVER owned an RV where your only sitting/lounging option is atop a thin dinette seat cushion that flattens out to nothing in 30 minutes; you'll know what I'm talking about.
It's definitely an RV where I think the idea is spending only minimal time "hanging out" inside the camper. Just a quick meal maybe and then hop out
Just a thought: You can always upgrade the cushions. I would make oversized zipper cases and stuff extra blankets in them. It adds padding, easily removed to wash, and stores extra blankets/pillows! I work from a laptop, so I definitely agree with you about extra padding, but I love the versatility of a u-dinette for extra prep/work/craft space, seating capacity and positions (I prefer to sit yoga style, but my other half needs to lie down to relieve back pain...so this option gives us room to do that and still be together), and sleeping space if necessary. The swivel table is a nice feature, too.
In order of priority my requested changes would be
1. Just a smidge longer to fit a full queen
2. Tandem axles
3. Theater seats in place of the dinette
Then I think I could talk the wife into it!
Heck, you could talk ME into it with those changes.
I'd love to see a tandem axle thing like this
I’d be all in with tandems and theater seats.
@@vicstertv8377 yeah, we would too. That's a cute trailer
I would love this for a 2 foot longer normal (dual axle) series of this floorplan - 6" in the bath, 6" in the bedroom (full queen!) and another foot in the living/kitchen. Fantastic offering though.
I could see it man
I think it's cute. Just enough bigger than a teardrop to give you are real bedroom with a walk around bed, dry bathroom and a full kitchen but still light enough to be easily towable.
Luckily I'm only 5'6", but I could see wanting another foot for a true queen.
I'd love to see a true queen bed version of something like this...
This model would be awesome with a couple modifications. Change the sink to a rectangular sink. Change the dinette from a U-dinette to an L-dinette and run the kitchen counter and under counter cabinets down the left side of the camper. Add the front windshield. The extra counter isn't exactly needed but the under counter kitchen storage is needed because there is very little storage for dishes, utensils, drinkware, cookware, and food. These changes would make it perfect for my wife and I. It would be a really nice couples camper.
Cool idea
Yes I like it and would consider it. I would also like to see some different bed options like a full queen or 2 twins.
Great design! I’d love to see this with a twin to king in the owner’s rear bedroom!!
Interesting.. TY
Me, too. Twin option with the front windshield would allow "living" use of all windows as could use the twin beds as 'daybed' sofa type things. While my truck is a beauty, looking at the back of it may not be as pleasing to others (spouse) as other surroundings.
Wish the drawers were under the sink and there was a stove with oven with a pots & pans drawer under it. That space left in the corner could be great for garbage & recycling bins. Too bad the cargo capacity is tight but it's a great concept. Rear bedrooms make more sense to me cuz you wouldn't hear as much "street" noise. Probably minimal but every little bit helps.
Yeah rear beds are nice but slides kinda force them forward sometimes
Split bathroom is ideal setup!
Awesome!
If they put a murphy bed in there that would be unbelievable because be perfect for watching TV and then pull it out when you go to bed so you basically have a TV room
Nice layout
That could be awesome
Great camper with a few little changes this can go from a “B” to “A- real quick. Replace the fans, add struts. Great review thanks nerd. 👍👍
👍🏻 yeah that’s the kind of RV where I can see a couple ownership preferences really dialing it in for that person
The ccc is definitely a consideration for why i wish this had dual axles. I do love that the 2024s did add the nosecap windshield bc it adds some great light. If this was a foot longer to accommodate a true queen or camp queen with a dual axle to accommodate a larger ccc, it would be a no brainer for me
Yeah that nose cap looks great
Honestly, I'd probably still get it the way it is now, so it's not a major deal breaker for me
I think a rectangle sink would work better with the countertop. I love having a window over the sink that opens!
TY Christina!
This one and the bed slide (no bunk model) are both very nice floorplans. Wish there was a better way for the living area TV to be placed but understand there really is no other option. But on the quest of solo camper with room for my dad to crash for a race weekend this one checks most boxes, separate sleeping areas, bathroom that can be accessed from either side, central air.
Yeah the living setup is wonky but I don’t know what else you’d do in that space
I have a similar setup with my Vista Cruiser 19ERD so it's good to see another mfg make this. My only suggestion would be to flip the bedroom and dinette so that the dinette is in the back and include large surrounding windows on all three sides. This would create a nice open feel gathering/eating area.
There's a few brands like Bullet doing that btw
I like the idea of a rear dinette with full surround windows, but that separates the bathroom from the bedroom. IMO, the DRY master bathroom feel combined with a private bedroom that you can close off from the main living area makes this little camper ON POINT! But everyone's needs are different!😉
Thank you for explaining why the skylight in the shower is oriented as it is. I would also prefer a rectangular kitchen sink. Overall I think this is a good set of compromises for the size of the camper.
TY! Glad it was helpful info :)
This one is soooo close to the perfect layout! I'd love to see this in a slightly longer version (around 25' max overall) with dual axles. Love the rear bedroom!! You can sleep away from the street side and enjoy the view of your site better. A standard queen would be great but I'd be willing to sacrifice if they adjusted the living area a bit. It would be amazing if, instead of the U dinette, they put a breakfast bar/desk on the camp side to the right of the door as you go in and a theater seat on the opposite side to really make that living space awesome. They'd have to move the junk in the trunk storage. But that would be a small sacrifice. A little overhead storage in that area or at least some sort of tall cabinet/pantry would really round it out. Being able to sit and work or enjoy your morning coffee and look out at your campsite in the morning would be so great. A front windshield would definitely make that front space feel more open as well but not a deal breaker. I agree about putting a square sink in that same spot instead of a round one. Keep the faucet where it is. Lose the outside griddle. With these changes it would be perfect and I'd be getting on the wait list to buy it.
LIke the rear bedroom, It would be cool to have a front windshield. I think it would help with natural light around the table.
It would have been nice to angle the toilet like you suggested on the older video. Great job on sharing the good and the bad in all your videos!
Thanks for the tips!
Great review!! Keep up the great work educating buyers. I love your reviews and new owner vids!! I've owned my '23 FR Salem 161QKX for the last 7 months and love it. I tow it around easily with my Honda Ridgeline (and so you're correct that a Tacoma, Colorado, or medium SUV with the right package should have no problem). No issues with the round kitchen sink (and it actually makes tucking a small Keurig in the corner easier. One concern is the bathroom sink -- it's way too small and shallow resulting in water spills water all around the counter (even when being really careful). The U-shaped dinette/rotating tabletop serves as an excellent remote work space by day and dining / poker table at night. Storage is MORE than adequate. I keep the camper at my hunt lease and keep my fishing gear, extension cords, and water hoses in the forward storage space. In the back storage area, I store pop up blinds, shooting sticks, tripod hunting chairs, bags of charcoal, starter logs, with room to spare.
Good insight on the bath sink. TY
Good to read your feedback on this trailer. I have a Ridgeline also and was wondering how it felt towing this one. What's your take on the quality of the build on this one?
thank them for being able to walk around and make my bed, without a slide.
I just bought one last week. It is great for the dog and I. My dog loves it! It has a great amount of room for me. I love the separate shower and bath which gives privacy for both. I take my parents with me and they are great fans of the separate bedroom. I feel safer in this camper due to the door being in the front and I am able to shut my bedroom door. I had a window put in the front. I LOVE IT. It really makes the trailer bigger than it really is. There are few things that need to be worked on but it is great to camp in!!
awesome! ty for sharing :)
Salem is killing it! Their 169 with the bed slide is amazing!!
I also like that one
@@JoshtheRVNerd I've often wondered about those bedroom slides... would "folding laundry" be problematic on the slide? Serious question.
No I love you being candid. Because for the price that you're paying for these things they should be absolutely perfect!
I try. TY
I love watching your videos. I learn a lot and laugh a lot! Love this little camper. I am just not a fan of a walk through bath room. Had a diesel pusher with middle bath for 13 years and with more people than 2 in that config, it gets to be a crazy wait for either getting in the bathroom or getting in the bedroom if either is occupied.
I think that’s where it still works in this model. It’s so small “more than two people” isn’t normal anyway
I do like it and yes I do like the round sink. I think a oval windshield would set this off beautifully
Ty
3:43 so far I really like...except of course for the round ⚪ sink in the kitchen ❗️it’s fine in the bathroom 👍
5:18 THANK YOU❗️
Yeah it’s not my favorite either
You really have to plan your cookware to your appliances. A small round sink might work for most cookware. And dont forget there's an outside shower for big stuff.
Thanks for the outside shower ideas! Not sure why that hadn't occurred to me before!
Love the split walkthrough bath! Great for catbox access. The shower is really the only place for one.
TY Michele
Pretty neat. A nice, lightweight couples trailer, with some neat updates. I really like the layout. I love the shower separate from the rest of the bathroom. If someone's in the shower, it doesn't tie up the whole bathroom. I wish more trailers did that. The private bath and big dinette are really cool. I like the Bluetooth speaker. I prefer those to built-in sound system, with speakers inside and out.
I like the bluetooth idea as well
Hey Josh, very new to this travel trailer thingy and doing my research on these size trailers. This one has just about the best features I've seen so far. Love your video's ! Keep up the good work and thank you for the insight!
Welcome aboard!
Nice little camper! I love the cabinet color and the flooring color. Makes it look light and airy. At my age, I would rather have comfortable seating rather than that huge dinette but that's just me and this unit is too small for our needs anyway. The kitchen is pretty nice for the size. The bathroom and bedroom are great for privacy. You mentioned the toilet was hidden nicely. Yes but its reflection glares at us in the refrigerator door 😜 a bit unnerving 😳 I do love your videos with the good and the bad. So informative. Keep up the great work 👍
Yeah it's definitely for a specific set of folks. I could see someone wanting something a little more plush eventually
But I also like this thing. Could be a great single parent camper for example
Check out the Gulf Stream Vista cruiser 19 ERD. It’s the same basic floor plan but the dinette is at the rear. BIG windows mean Great views of mountains/lakes/rivers/ocean while drinking coffee or if it’s cold/raining out. We spent 7 weeks in ours last year and it was amazing.
Thanks for the info!
I love the front dinette. Yes, I think it needs a window in the front. Also, maybe a little shield of some type next to the stove. It's a little close to the seating area in my opinion. Otherwise, this is a very clever floor plan for a small trailer. Very different which is nice. Keep up the good work! Always appreciate your candor in your reviews.
I try Phyllis! I don't want someone spending this kind of money without a high level of confidence
This interior is on point as far as decor. The windshield would make it tho. Then it would rival a Sol or something. 😊
that's high praise considering the wildly lower budget on one of these
@@JoshtheRVNerd yeah it is hard to tell the quality of the build in a video. I saw some Wildwood fifth wheels and the cabinets were like cardboard, sooooo … 🤷🏻♀️
But the colors and hardware and countertop etc is really modern and nice. 👍☺️
WILDWOOD LISTEN UP! Great little camper. Take this up a notch more. Tandem axle, add a couple feet, make the rear bed rise to the ceiling, add a ramp door, and make it a TOY HAULER. The rear bedroom could be about 10 feet to allow for a full queen and some spacing for a toy.
Another great video Josh!
I've literally talked to their designer about concepts like this
@Josh the RV Nerd at Bish's RV Thank you. They could design it like the Thor C class. I will be pushing for it. I love the front living area idea.
All travel trailers need THICKER mattresses.
They have a mattress? I thought they come only with a thick mattress pad.😁
It should be called a mattress board. As in hard as a board
Would be nice if they could make it available with twin beds. The hanging wardrobes could be moved to the foot side of the beds. The campsite window is too big for my liking. The other trailer with the rear desk could also be converted to twin beds too.
Oh My a magic refrigerator door....
My 2 cents. Have a windshield in the front cap. Then the dinette is perfect. I like the bed in the rear. Less street noise.
Windshield with a layout like this could look great
Yes! to window in cap over dinette. Just add a dual axle to solve your Cargo Capacity. This is not a small length trailer! (in my opinion). Add one more vent to the bedroom for 2 circular vents. Move the outside grill to over the tire, under the awning (add that bar to the outside, that it can hook on) where it currently is, you’ll keep getting hit by the door, & your might be standing in the sun when cooking! This would also give you a true pass-through. Love the kitchen! Love the bathroom/shower!
Dual axle version of this could be great I think
Love this floor plan. Don't need the single Axel or the dinette. But I love the direction. I'd love this more beefed up in a 3 to "4" season camper. With a couch/ loveseat option instead of a dinette. But I'm excited for a small camper with a private room. Keep'em coming!
Heck yes to the windshield window!
see here - they did it! th-cam.com/video/5Rdf-TdbSIg/w-d-xo.html
Now this would be my dream camper.
It’s perfect for the wife and myself.
Thanks Josh, always enjoy your honesty, integrity and thorough descriptions 👍🏻
I try! TY Danny
I really like this and the upgrades from the previous.....if I could afford one it would be this one.
Nice ty
They should put a cabinet/ hidden bunk above the dinette. Make it sleep 5. THAT would make this the perfect RV! LOVE the Rear private bedroom....thats a must. But need occasional extra 3 ppl, for when we bring the kids and grandkids
If it weren't for that aggressive sweep-back on the nose I think it would work well
Yes! Put the windshield over the dinette.
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As a former Shasta 21CK owner, this is a great floorplan. I like the rear bedroom. What could they do with another 3 feet of length and full 8 foot width 🤔.
Thank you to your hosts.
Glad you mentioned the bit about cargo capacity. I'd be mostly boondocking so now I'm leaning towards dual axle with its higher cargo capacity (in this case, water). Thsnks for another great and useful video.
Yeah CCC becomes super important if carrying water
RIP Ron Sexton/Donnie Baker/Floyd the Trucker
Great layout!!
I love the refrigerator doors!
TY Patty!
It looks like a nice design, but it's funny you mentioned that the toilet was out of sight. It's actually reflecting off of the refrigerator door on several shots. I wondered why you didn't close the bathroom door, lol.
I think they should have modeled it after the lazy days 27 Midbath. A swinging door on the kitchen side that would close off the toilet from view yet leave a hall open to the bedroom. Swing the door the other way to connect with the shower wall for a private shower.
hahaha yeah so I've noticed in reviewing the footage
I noticed the reflection too 😂, but I like that I can keep them open, close off the bathroom while cooking, or have the bathroom accessible for guests, but still have a private bedroom.
Yes I like it so far... 🎉#NerdHerd.... I would have done this if I didn't need a recliner but going to share this with a friend who is on the bubble of getting into campers.
Ty Laura!
@@JoshtheRVNerd always for you... Glad you were doing you back when I was looking and needing the info.... I am happy to share you, your videos and your business with others who are like me (just learning or a few years into) this wonderful happy lifestyle.... Best thing I ever did was finding your video.
I really like this one compared to the 169RSKX slide-out model. Something about the 161QK's bedroom layout really does it for me.
If it was 4'-ish longer with dual axle, it'd be a head to head contender with the 171RBXL. I think the 171's shoulda had a bathroom sliding barn door as well. Its not often you see bathroom doors go all the way to the floor, they did this one right.
The single axle is a deal breaker, thus the 171 wins out. The 161 would be amazing with a front windshield!!!
Super nice rig, I really like it!. I'll give it a walk through before signing up for the 171. Good dinette seating vs dual axle and big bathroom though, that's a tough one. Thanks for the vid!
I agree actually. I think this 161 is awesome
Nice layout especially the large u-shaped dinette.
TY
Love the fridge! Things I would change: Add window to front, exchange gas cooktop for induction, and true queen size bed.
TY!
I agree with you, I'm very excited to see a couples trailer with a desk. I would like to see one maybe with a double axle with full queen bed & 2 ac vents in the bedroom and slide without a step. Just my takeaways. But I like where they are going with this model. Thanks for the video
Seems like almost everybody’s in the exact same mindset
Very nice little trailer with the price point that you show anyone who buys one is getting a lot of bang for the buck
Keep up the good work and keep us entertained at the same time. Thanks, Josh.
My pleasure :)
Wow, pretty impressive little unit there. Love it.
Ty!
I’d like it better if 8’ wide. Theater seating or sofa with attachable table instead of dinette. I don’t mind round sink in kitchen as long as it’s deep enough.
Agree on the sink this is the style of sink that grand design should be using in their imagine AIM series
Hey Josh, if you want a trailer bumper pull that will get you so excited. You'll want to call Mom........
KZ RV's Venture Sonic X fully loaded, with the 4 point filter unit allows you to draw water fom any sourse,(rivers, lakes), and so much more! There's 2 hidden lock box safe's, good luck! Seriously, you need to head over to Venture!!!
Perfect for our great white north!!!!
Take care of you, thank you very much for being real!
Those seem pretty slick. Ty for the recommendation
Love it!!! Now if we can get that with a double axel!! W/ Azdel!!! ….sold!!!!
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I really like this Josh. That is awesome that the bed is in the back with a private bedroom.
In such a small RV no less
Very cool layout. Definitely like to see front window.
I think it could look great here and really "open" that space
Recliners or reclining sofa would be a nice option.
That's a well thought out unit...I'm impressed after 28years in this business...it's impressive. Please note that the AC Ducts can be closed off, which never really happens. the windows are awesome....Tight little package! I like it.
Yeah they managed to pull something pretty slick off here I think
FSX is criminally underrated for their creativity
It would be really nice to have that front window! In a smaller trailer, the windows really help when you are forced to hang out indoors!
It would make that small front living space look/feel more open as well
Yay! For regular entry steps!!!
I feel like there's been a shift of desire BACK to those recently
Super small camper!
Terrific floor plan & storage. Tank sizes adequate. Love the private bedroom! Like the decor colors too.
As usual I'd like to see a tandem axle for safer towing please😊
Thx nerd you're the best! 🐾😎👍
I try! TY Sonny! :)
My husband and I just bought a Grand Design Imagine Aim 15RB and so loving it. The only thing that we didn't like is the TV in it was not high def and it didn't have an HDMI port. You pay a lot for a trailer and you expect not to get ancient technology.
..really? No HDMI port at all? That's baffling
@@JoshtheRVNerd None whatsoever. It is baffling.
Cool little camper. A couch up front instead of dinette would be great
A few others requested something similar! TY for the input
Would you be OK with losing outside storage to do it?
Nice layout, I like the separation between living/sleeping areas. Personally, I would prefer a rectangular sink instead of the round one. Is there storage under the seating area?? I would hope so. Otherwise, there isn't a lit of room for kitchen items or board games 😂 thanks for the video!!
Yeah storage under seating
I like this one. It reminds me of an Airstream layout with Forest River price and quality. It fits a need well. I appreciate you looking out for us with the cargo capacity warning!
You got it! :)
Absolutely gorgeous!!!
TY
When you really think about it, our plates, cups, pots and bowls are all round. So a round sink makes sense!!
That’s a split point. Ty
Wow this is awesome!.. The single axle is a bummer. What would make this the Holy Grail for me would be tandem axle and twin beds in the private bedroom 👍
Definitely can appreciate the design.
Will have to keep this in mind when it comes time to buy me 2nd rv this first time.
So nice, to small for us but I love the layout and features ❤️
Ty April
Love the Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time sound effect when putting in the table. lol
#zelda :)
I really like that layout.
I did too!
I really like the layout and the L shaped kitchen. The big window in the kitchen is a big plus but would prefer a viewing one for the front.
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Thanks FSX !! We love Josh ❤️
Salem and Wildwood have done it again! Before this camper, the only camper that fit for me was the 179DBKX, which is another layout unique to them. I am so excited and impressed by the innovations and fresh thinking they're bringing into the Truck and SUV towable camper market.
Yeah it's incredible how unique and innovative the FSX division really is - especially in these single axles!
Windshield.......1000% YES!!!!!!!!!
I've seen a proto tested with it about a year ago. Looked amazing but I guess wasn't adopted
HOME RUN!!!🙌🙌
Nice! :)
Yes to windshield
Definitely would prefer the front windshield to give more viewing while in the dinette. Very interesting layout for a little trailer.
Thank you for watching!
Nice rv! Thanks J.W.!!
My pleasure!