Oilers had a good season last year, they just couldn’t close the deal. That win streak really got them out of a slump. It looked like the Jets were going to beat that. They sure jumped out of the gate at the start and are still doing well. It isn’t always the best team that wins. It’s the best team there that day.
I feel like there is a high chance for a rematch between these teams. I wouldn’t mind a rematch because it was very entertaining. If we get a different team that’s cool too, I know my team is already thinking of their U2 concert next summer.
There isn't anything wrong with the Panthers. They are just watching the points and staying healthy by dropping a few here and there. Panthers know the grind is coming.
@@casewojo6186 no, it isn’t a motivation issue. Half the time their defense and goaltending looks like it’s straight out of World Juniors or the AHL. They are almost bottom of the league in save percentage as well
@ it is motivation dude. Their aggressive forecheck keeps the puck out of their zone and wears the opposing team down. There are more variables than just goaltending and defense homie.
@@casewojo6186 of course, just like how the panthers broke a team record by being shutout FOUR times in a month. Your defense and goaltending is worse than the 2022-23 season as well
@ two things can be true at once. Look at hits per game in those losses too. Defense and goaltending is objectively worse this season, but they are also struggling with motivation. Bennett and Verhaege both admitted to this.
The NHL fined the Dallas Stars $100,000 Monday for violating a collective bargaining agreement prohibiting on-ice activities and travel on certain dates during the holiday break.
Well that was silly of them..did they win their first game back from holidays? If so that should be declared a lost for them for having advantage of more rest and more practice then.
Oilers are the team to beat in the west for sure. Still confident that Florida is the team to beat in the east, although New Jersey is right there too.
@@realdylanoof seems likely EDM v VGK would be a round two matchup if they both finish in the top 3 of the division. LA should aim to avoid playing EDM in round one again. Hyman has quietly become the best two-way forward in the western conference for many seasons. Barkov is terrific for Florida too.
@@JannickVerburg I wonder how TB - BOS series could play out if TOR slips up with more injuries and the goals against continues to be an issue to lower placed teams. FLA would enjoy playing TOR or BOS much more than TB.
I would love a rematch of last years Stanley Cup. Of course, I am a Panthers fan, so I would give them the edge as I think they are restraining themselves for the long grind that is coming. I could be wrong, but last years Cup was such a stressful and beautiful event for me. I've been a Panthers fan since the beginning growing up in Miami. It was so incredible to see my wife turn into a hockey fan, texting her updates as she was working at the hospital. Then capping the series off with a game 7 win with her at home. Man, I want to experience that again!
You should do a video talking about the strength of both conferences, this year it seems the west has become the slightly more competitive conference with the unexpected rise of Vegas, Minnesota and Winnipeg. And the dramatic fall of the defending president trophy winning rangers out east.
Good breakdown, one area you didn’t cover was injuries. The Oilers have an artificially inflated cap space because Evander Kane is on LTIR. When he comes back, they are going to have shed $5.125 million to get him in. Unless they are going to apply the Marc Stone “rule” and have him show up fresh and 100% on game 1 of the playoffs!
As always, solid analysis, would like to add one more item. Past 10 games and future 10 games and amount of teams above 500 they face. How well you do against top teams is much valuable information in making assessments. If the first quarter of your season is all under 500 teams and your record is 18-2, i might question a bit
The Oilers had one of the toughest schedules out of the gate. From here to the end of the season, they have the 2nd easiest. Puts them in a good spot as long as they stop playing down to the level of competition.
If there’s going to be a rematch of a Stanley Cup final. I have a feeling it’s going to be Vegas and Washington. I’m a Penguins fan and I do hate the capitals however, I would kind of be cheering for them a little more. First off I do hope I get to see Ovechkin break Gretzky’s record this year & Ovi get another cup. Also, I think it would be pretty intriguing to see Logan Thompson, who I am a huge fan of beat his former team and really shove it up their hoop. I don’t think Adin Hill is a terrible goaltender he’s actually quite good but I didn’t really understand why they chose Hill over Thompson. And I am bewildered that Thompson did not make team Canada for the four nations. I’m sure it has something to do with management for Vegas being involved in the selection.
I said they would meet in the finals again last year when the game 7 finished, and I'm still saying it. Don't see anyone else from either confrence stopping these two teams in a playoff series, like we saw last year, and none of the top teams from last year have improved enough or at all.
It’s gonna be hard for the Cats to add at the deadline. But for the Panthers goal really is, just get in and play like the way they did that won them the cup. However, what could possibly be the problem, is fatigue. Back 2 back runs to the final is taxing on the body.
Not just that. Teams are adapting to the panthers. Then and the oilers are the ones to adapt to right now. The problem for the panthers is that they haven't changed much. Which makes analytic factors highly effective against them. The oilers? They've changed. Not only are they better now than last season, the players they got rid of and replaced have completely changed the way they play.
I agree that the Panthers can lack motivation at times, playing down to lesser teams. Evidence for this is their 10-1 record this year against teams they recently faced in the playoffs. For the Panthers to advance, IMO it would be better for them not to face Tampa in the first round.
Hurrah - a Florida video!! My sense on the panthers are that we are seriously missing depth, particularly puck-moving D. And our goaltending can be "variable" at times, although that's less of a concern. Lack of depth really comes out when our top guys just don't have the juice and/or motivation; and we don't have other guys who can really step up on those occasions. This is not a knock on our top guys as you can't play like that for 82 games, but it's really clear - particularly when we keep getting blown out by non-playoff teams... Hopefully, Zito can work some magic before the deadline but as much as I would absolutely love it, I'm not sure we're a complete contender at the moment.
I can see a case for either team coming back or not, panthers have the style to return since they are physical and deep in their forwards, oilers have the top two players, HOWEVER, Panthers have had two deep runs recently and that can wear on them, Oilers aren’t deep on the blue line along with a mid level goalie
Oilers need to win it to stick it to all the haters!!! Getting tired of hearing people say McDavid isn't the best just because he doesn't have a cup even though a cup takes a team. We had Chiarelli for years, thats why he hasnt won yet.
Florida's defense will be a major problem coming playoff time but Atlantic isn't strong enough. I see one metro team knocking them out in ECF possibly. If EDM is on a hot streak, they can be unstoppable if Skinner hold them tightly...to count on early exit, EDM has a higher chance to lose when vegas is there
@@nerinamak3298another thing is a team can easily run out of gas when they were in 8 rounds straight the past two years counting on the roster is thinner
@@4517onlyglory Yes, they've played more games than anybody over the last 3 years, which is why they're not wasting time and energy chasing after wins in December (hence the shutouts) especially since they still sit atop the division.
Throughout my time in the NHL I’ve yet to see a Stanley Cup Finals rematch and at this stage I’m not sure if we’ll get it his year as I wouldn’t be surprised if the Panthers make it three straight Finals but for Edmonton as much as I want to see McDavid win a cup I think right how it’s going to be a dogfight in my conference come playoff time
The way the Cats are playing, or NOT playing, I doubt they go far this season. I want to be wrong, but they’ve sat out many games already. Their defensive core and goaltending isn’t as good either. Their forecheck is lacking, and that has been the biggest culprit for goals against. The good news is, they play well against good teams. They struggle with motivation though, and this worries me.
Yeah and they’re still tied for the division lead. Panthers are saving their shit for the post season. Not saying you’re wrong but they’ll get there just fine and will be a tough out for anyone.
Looks to me like they play their A game against the best teams (most of the time) and they rest against the lesser teams to leave something in the tank for the playoffs.
@@nerinamak3298 I hope that’s what’s happening, but finishing 1st in the division matters. Their forward group has potential to be lethal, as we’ve seen, but to make up for defensive weakness, they need their aggressive forecheck. We will see what happens.
I wonder how much of that 7% to win the cup is lower because they've made it the last two years I mean You can say it makes it likely they make it again lol
I agree with your insight but I have no faith in the oiler goal tending. There has not been enough substance to believe in. I'm a Florida fan and in bobcat we trust.
Canes are not a good road team and have never been one in the playoffs. I definitely see Florida or Tampa Bay or Washington beating them in the playoffs. Feel free to come back to this comment if that's their path to the SCF somehow.
Oilers goalies : Skinner .894 sv / % Pickard .898 sv / % . Two new Stanley Cup finalists this year. Every team looks beatable this year, depending on which week. Great parity in the league. Crap shoot.
@@colbykistner3393 I don't follow Florida but the Oilers were improving each year to lead up to the final, what about it was an anomaly? Beating Dallas?
Kinda the opposite. Edmonton has a high chance of making the WCF only because I can’t see anyone besides a healthy Vancouver/Demko to beat them from the Pacific. Minnesota or Winnipeg will toss Edmonton aside in the WCF though. Florida isn’t getting out of round one
@@colbykistner3393 I guess you just skipped Vegas, While you beat Vegas at home, Vegas ended the Oilers winning streak at their place. They also have done well against the good teams, right now have the highest winning percentage, 8 more regulation wins etc. So feel free to ignore Vegas. If you make it to there you will probably have to go through them again to make the Finals. And Vegas has also done this latest 9-1 run with Barbashev and Roy out.
Ive seen my Pens try and get to a 3rd straight final twice in my lifetime and they completely ran out of gas. Its extremely hard, now that being said the Eastern Conference is really bad so Florida has to be the favorite.
In a shocking - and highly confusing - twist, this year’s Stanley Cup Final will somehow be Nashville vs San Jose.
And I said HELL NAJHH
We’re never losing again.
7% for the Stanley cup champion is kinda criminal, with the drop off of Boston, Rangers and Canes.
Oilers had a good season last year, they just couldn’t close the deal. That win streak really got them out of a slump. It looked like the Jets were going to beat that. They sure jumped out of the gate at the start and are still doing well. It isn’t always the best team that wins. It’s the best team there that day.
exactly!
Bit thats what the SC is for.. the best team in the playoffs. If you want your trophy for best regular season you can have it, Jets!
I feel like there is a high chance for a rematch between these teams. I wouldn’t mind a rematch because it was very entertaining. If we get a different team that’s cool too, I know my team is already thinking of their U2 concert next summer.
There isn't anything wrong with the Panthers.
They are just watching the points and staying healthy by dropping a few here and there.
Panthers know the grind is coming.
A rematch is one of the possibilities, not the most certain thing, but if it happens, it'll be a lot more interesting than, say, Calgary versus NYC.
The Rangers and Isles won’t even be wild cards at this rate
Rangers having a higher odds to be the bottom of the EC than making out of the first round of playoffs
Sounds like they aren't hockey fans NYC isn't a team in the NHL😄😄
@@Hockeynut73 True - NYC means Rangers, for me.
@@not2teesI guess they should have called them that then.
Panthers are a playoff team. They lack motivation right now but, health is the priority.
@@karnivool1987 it is absolutely a motivation problem. 100% agree
@@casewojo6186 no, it isn’t a motivation issue. Half the time their defense and goaltending looks like it’s straight out of World Juniors or the AHL. They are almost bottom of the league in save percentage as well
@ it is motivation dude. Their aggressive forecheck keeps the puck out of their zone and wears the opposing team down. There are more variables than just goaltending and defense homie.
@@casewojo6186 of course, just like how the panthers broke a team record by being shutout FOUR times in a month. Your defense and goaltending is worse than the 2022-23 season as well
@ two things can be true at once. Look at hits per game in those losses too. Defense and goaltending is objectively worse this season, but they are also struggling with motivation. Bennett and Verhaege both admitted to this.
The NHL fined the Dallas Stars $100,000 Monday for violating a collective bargaining agreement prohibiting on-ice activities and travel on certain dates during the holiday break.
Well that was silly of them..did they win their first game back from holidays? If so that should be declared a lost for them for having advantage of more rest and more practice then.
If the Oilers crush Florida in the finals, it will give NY Islanders - Edmonton Oilers 1983 and 1984 vibes.
Oilers are the team to beat in the west for sure. Still confident that Florida is the team to beat in the east, although New Jersey is right there too.
@@mcj44 Agreed. I could see Edmonton vs Vegas in the WCF
The Lightning could be a dark horse as well
@@realdylanoof seems likely EDM v VGK would be a round two matchup if they both finish in the top 3 of the division. LA should aim to avoid playing EDM in round one again. Hyman has quietly become the best two-way forward in the western conference for many seasons. Barkov is terrific for Florida too.
@@JannickVerburg I wonder how TB - BOS series could play out if TOR slips up with more injuries and the goals against continues to be an issue to lower placed teams. FLA would enjoy playing TOR or BOS much more than TB.
@MDot97 Agreed
Awesome stats!!! Loved this one!!!
Great vid - interesting analysis 👍🏼
My money is on a Golden knights Panthers final.
I would love a rematch of last years Stanley Cup. Of course, I am a Panthers fan, so I would give them the edge as I think they are restraining themselves for the long grind that is coming. I could be wrong, but last years Cup was such a stressful and beautiful event for me. I've been a Panthers fan since the beginning growing up in Miami. It was so incredible to see my wife turn into a hockey fan, texting her updates as she was working at the hospital. Then capping the series off with a game 7 win with her at home. Man, I want to experience that again!
If she was working then She shouldnt be in her phone either 😂
Honestly I can see a rematch
You should do a video talking about the strength of both conferences, this year it seems the west has become the slightly more competitive conference with the unexpected rise of Vegas, Minnesota and Winnipeg. And the dramatic fall of the defending president trophy winning rangers out east.
Good breakdown, one area you didn’t cover was injuries. The Oilers have an artificially inflated cap space because Evander Kane is on LTIR. When he comes back, they are going to have shed $5.125 million to get him in. Unless they are going to apply the Marc Stone “rule” and have him show up fresh and 100% on game 1 of the playoffs!
As always, solid analysis, would like to add one more item. Past 10 games and future 10 games and amount of teams above 500 they face. How well you do against top teams is much valuable information in making assessments. If the first quarter of your season is all under 500 teams and your record is 18-2, i might question a bit
The Oilers had one of the toughest schedules out of the gate. From here to the end of the season, they have the 2nd easiest. Puts them in a good spot as long as they stop playing down to the level of competition.
If there’s going to be a rematch of a Stanley Cup final. I have a feeling it’s going to be Vegas and Washington. I’m a Penguins fan and I do hate the capitals however, I would kind of be cheering for them a little more. First off I do hope I get to see Ovechkin break Gretzky’s record this year & Ovi get another cup. Also, I think it would be pretty intriguing to see Logan Thompson, who I am a huge fan of beat his former team and really shove it up their hoop. I don’t think Adin Hill is a terrible goaltender he’s actually quite good but I didn’t really understand why they chose Hill over Thompson. And I am bewildered that Thompson did not make team Canada for the four nations. I’m sure it has something to do with management for Vegas being involved in the selection.
I said they would meet in the finals again last year when the game 7 finished, and I'm still saying it. Don't see anyone else from either confrence stopping these two teams in a playoff series, like we saw last year, and none of the top teams from last year have improved enough or at all.
@@Peksisarvinen Agreed
I wouldn´t count out Washington and Vegas.
Cool video, interesting similarities......thanks.
How would Kane on ltir effect the oilers ? They could do what Tampa and Vegas did and they should. There time to go for it all is now.
I think I better clean the litter boxes.
Me too.
It’s gonna be hard for the Cats to add at the deadline. But for the Panthers goal really is, just get in and play like the way they did that won them the cup. However, what could possibly be the problem, is fatigue. Back 2 back runs to the final is taxing on the body.
Not just that. Teams are adapting to the panthers. Then and the oilers are the ones to adapt to right now.
The problem for the panthers is that they haven't changed much. Which makes analytic factors highly effective against them.
The oilers? They've changed. Not only are they better now than last season, the players they got rid of and replaced have completely changed the way they play.
Lets Go Oil!
As a Sabres fan, I find it mildly amusing that Jeff Skinner was a healthy scratch in the Oilers' last game.
Let's Go Oilers!!!
I agree that the Panthers can lack motivation at times, playing down to lesser teams. Evidence for this is their 10-1 record this year against teams they recently faced in the playoffs. For the Panthers to advance, IMO it would be better for them not to face Tampa in the first round.
I really want Edmonton to win the Stanley cup. That is of course presuming the DRW don't make history in the second half of the season.
I want a FLA VGK rematch just to watch people have a meltdown
Oh - that would be WONDERFUL!!! Revenge...
Hurrah - a Florida video!! My sense on the panthers are that we are seriously missing depth, particularly puck-moving D. And our goaltending can be "variable" at times, although that's less of a concern. Lack of depth really comes out when our top guys just don't have the juice and/or motivation; and we don't have other guys who can really step up on those occasions. This is not a knock on our top guys as you can't play like that for 82 games, but it's really clear - particularly when we keep getting blown out by non-playoff teams... Hopefully, Zito can work some magic before the deadline but as much as I would absolutely love it, I'm not sure we're a complete contender at the moment.
I can see a case for either team coming back or not, panthers have the style to return since they are physical and deep in their forwards, oilers have the top two players, HOWEVER, Panthers have had two deep runs recently and that can wear on them, Oilers aren’t deep on the blue line along with a mid level goalie
Oilers need to win it to stick it to all the haters!!! Getting tired of hearing people say McDavid isn't the best just because he doesn't have a cup even though a cup takes a team. We had Chiarelli for years, thats why he hasnt won yet.
Florida's defense will be a major problem coming playoff time but Atlantic isn't strong enough. I see one metro team knocking them out in ECF possibly. If EDM is on a hot streak, they can be unstoppable if Skinner hold them tightly...to count on early exit, EDM has a higher chance to lose when vegas is there
Yes Florida's defense isn't as good as last year, but they are better than the year before and they made the finals both years.
@@nerinamak3298another thing is a team can easily run out of gas when they were in 8 rounds straight the past two years counting on the roster is thinner
@@4517onlyglory Yes, they've played more games than anybody over the last 3 years, which is why they're not wasting time and energy chasing after wins in December (hence the shutouts) especially since they still sit atop the division.
Interesting you didn’t mention regulation wins. A full 33% of Edmonton’s wins are 3-on-3 OT wins.
I’m bias as a Panthers fan, but I think we’re slightly more likely to make the finals. Just based on the path in the East seeming easier
Vegas
Throughout my time in the NHL I’ve yet to see a Stanley Cup Finals rematch and at this stage I’m not sure if we’ll get it his year as I wouldn’t be surprised if the Panthers make it three straight Finals but for Edmonton as much as I want to see McDavid win a cup I think right how it’s going to be a dogfight in my conference come playoff time
I think Vegas and Capitals will be in the finals
I guess this is a panther video.
The way the Cats are playing, or NOT playing, I doubt they go far this season. I want to be wrong, but they’ve sat out many games already. Their defensive core and goaltending isn’t as good either. Their forecheck is lacking, and that has been the biggest culprit for goals against. The good news is, they play well against good teams. They struggle with motivation though, and this worries me.
Yeah and they’re still tied for the division lead. Panthers are saving their shit for the post season. Not saying you’re wrong but they’ll get there just fine and will be a tough out for anyone.
@@karnivool1987 that goaltending and "defense" screams otherwise
Looks to me like they play their A game against the best teams (most of the time) and they rest against the lesser teams to leave something in the tank for the playoffs.
@@nerinamak3298 I hope that’s what’s happening, but finishing 1st in the division matters. Their forward group has potential to be lethal, as we’ve seen, but to make up for defensive weakness, they need their aggressive forecheck. We will see what happens.
For the panthers it’s really just get in and it doesn’t matter where they finish
better than Vegas and Tampa
i want ice cream
Go Panthers! Would be great to see them win again. Also want to see Reinhart get 50+ goals again.
I wonder how much of that 7% to win the cup is lower because they've made it the last two years I mean You can say it makes it likely they make it again lol
Avs TBL rematch
Swap Makar for Bouchard and the Oilers would be a dynasty for many years. LA would still find a way to play them in the playoffs lol
I agree with your insight but I have no faith in the oiler goal tending. There has not been enough substance to believe in. I'm a Florida fan and in bobcat we trust.
@@Cobbycoyote Bob hasn't really been much better
@realdylanoof agreed but when the defense doesn't show up to to defend i feel comfortable knowing bob is in net over skinnnnnner.
Oilers.
Final this year will be a VGK/Caps rematch.
Panthers
If Edmonton can heat up (even more than they already are), they will make the Finals.
Ducks beat the oilers 😎
Carolina will win the cup. This video is sad.
Canes are not a good road team and have never been one in the playoffs. I definitely see Florida or Tampa Bay or Washington beating them in the playoffs. Feel free to come back to this comment if that's their path to the SCF somehow.
The Oilers are and always will be, a Ferrari leaking oil. Fast, flashy and unreliable.
Oilers goalies : Skinner .894 sv / % Pickard .898 sv / % . Two new Stanley Cup finalists this year. Every team looks beatable this year, depending on which week. Great parity in the league. Crap shoot.
Neither team will make it to the final!
Neither team should've made it to the final last year anyways. That was an anomaly
@@colbykistner3393 did the kraken even make the playoffs lol
@@colbykistner3393disagree. Panthers mowed through pretty much everyone
@@christhebest9359 the Kraken aren’t relevant to this conversation. This video was solely about the Panthers and Oilers
@@colbykistner3393 I don't follow Florida but the Oilers were improving each year to lead up to the final, what about it was an anomaly? Beating Dallas?
Yeah… absolutely not
Florida still has a shot,Edm will be lucky to make it to the WCF
Kinda the opposite. Edmonton has a high chance of making the WCF only because I can’t see anyone besides a healthy Vancouver/Demko to beat them from the Pacific. Minnesota or Winnipeg will toss Edmonton aside in the WCF though. Florida isn’t getting out of round one
@@colbykistner3393lmao. Tell me you're a hater without telling me you're a hater.
@@colbykistner3393 Last time I checked Vegas is still in the Pacific.
@@nerinamak3298 Vegas won’t do anything playoff time. They are not built the same way they were 2 years ago
@@colbykistner3393 I guess you just skipped Vegas, While you beat Vegas at home, Vegas ended the Oilers winning streak at their place. They also have done well against the good teams, right now have the highest winning percentage, 8 more regulation wins etc. So feel free to ignore Vegas. If you make it to there you will probably have to go through them again to make the Finals. And Vegas has also done this latest 9-1 run with Barbashev and Roy out.
Have the Oilers remembered how to play hockey yet? Haven’t really being paying attention. I see they lost to the Ducks 👌
Last 2 months they are 16-7. I think they know how to play just fine.
Every team has bad games, look at Florida's last two
Ive seen my Pens try and get to a 3rd straight final twice in my lifetime and they completely ran out of gas. Its extremely hard, now that being said the Eastern Conference is really bad so Florida has to be the favorite.