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I’ve learned so much about the hobby. I use to collect when I was a kid. My dad use to take me to LCS for a few packs and sometime I would get lucky and get a box of Proset lol. I wanted to get into ripping boxes on zzz YT for fun. What equipment do you need? Would you do a behind the scenes footage? It would be greatly appreciated. @PackmanCards
All these collectors need to grow some balls and sue panini for scamming customers. You could have a redemption that they still have, but they'll send you this instead of digging through their own mess for it. They've even got plenty of high dollar cards being backdoored. So an employee could steal my redemption, and all I get is a random pack with no guaranteed value? It's complete BS. They need to be sued beyond belief. Edit: guess I should specify class action lawsuit, since so many people think I'm talking about Individuals suing over their $10 redemptions... which is just ridiculous, and would never gain traction. But thousands of people as a collective? Now we're cooking with gas.
THIS!!!! RIGHT HERE!!! LOOK EVERYONE! There is a fellow collector who understands the situation and knows the correct action to take. Pull your heads out of the sand and stand up for yourselves!!!
@TherosSoultaker it's just so weird to me that no lawfirm has jumped on this mountain yet. They're breaking contracts yearly that they make with the customer on purchase. If I purchased a redemption, and I submitted my redemption years ago. It should be held to the standards that panini held at that time. If I pull a redemption now, sure, white sparkle pack, who cares. But if I had a kobe auto waiting for 10 years. I expect whatever the protocol was 10 years ago to be what they use for my card! They're literally lying to people in a gambling space. While casino's are scum and use everything to their favor. They never cheat you directly, because it puts them at risk of being sued into oblivion for falsifying odds. Panini actively falsified odds on a gambling product and promotes it to kids! They're huge pieces of shit. Worst company to ever hit the card scene.
You bought searched packs that's why they were all /199. You can use your fingernail and feel the numbering on the back of the pack with no need to open it. Don't buy these on the secondary market unless you are happy with /199. Panini was dumb enough to make is easy for people
100%, came here to say the same. I think they could also put a piece of paper on top of the pack and shade with a pencil to see the outline of the numbering. Terrible decision by panini to put the numbered card on the outside.
You can absolutely feel with your fingernails. There is a layer of dermis under them that relays nerve signals to the brain. Maybe you have dead nerve endings. lol@@WhosWatchingWhat
Same thing happened to me, 5 packs only 1 red rookie (Ochai). Pretty convinced whoever distributed these knew where the rookie packs were, and the rest were sold to us plebs
I wonder if you could feel the serial number on the back? At least feel if it is 3 digits for a blue or less for the others and search that way. Might be wary in purchasing off eBay.
Panini needs to get sued this is literally such BS imagine how many people have waited for redemptions worth WAY more than these bogus packs worth probably less than 20 bucks this is just disappointing
Multicolor Sparkle Pack Odds: 1 # Color Per Pack 144(Blue)+24(Gold)+8(Green)= 176 176x300(Cards in base set) =52,800 81.8% Chance of a Blue 13.6% Chance of a Gold 4.5% Chance of a Green If the Red Sparkles were numbered, they would be /352 Or They are numbered /350 and 600 packs have 2 color (1.1%)
I'm waiting on redemntions over a year now but all it shows is an option to redeem for points? The cards are low numbered bol and rui autos and a cracked ice hayes contenders auto...I'd rather have the cards than these packs but what do you think?
Email them about some replacements been pending since 2020 . This was their response. Due to the pandemic, we are experiencing a backlog in fulfilling requests. Please bear with us as we are actively working on getting your tickets processed as soon as possible. As soon as there are updates, we will reach out to you immediately. 😂
Damn that was tough to see lol 😂 Only cards I liked were Tim Duncan, Vince Carter, Dominique Wilkins and Patrick Ewing. I’ll take that Tim Duncan tho lol 😂
I guess if I had to choose between not ever receiving anything or getting one of these packs, I'd take the pack. They seem rough, though, so maybe I'd just sell it.
@PackmanCards I’ve learned so much about the hobby from your videos. I use to collect when I was a kid. My dad use to take me to LCS for a few packs and sometime I would get lucky and get a box of Proset lol. I wanted to get into ripping boxes on zzz YT for fun. What equipment do you need? Would you do a behind the scene video?
Thanks for that review on Allen and ginter I bought 3 boxes bc I forgot how fun that product was and got a perfectly centered Nadal auto black frame /25
Man, that was a rough one, but I like the Dominique Wilkins color match. Them Panini packs from National were pretty bad too. Man oh man. Still fun to watch you on commentary.
I feel like your packs were searched through and resealed brother I got got fine white Sparkle packs I bought five from one guy and they were all tampered with and I could never find them again on eBay
For the last couple years I have not received return in redemption as most have converted to 150 points instead of fulfill it and send it back to me, that is crap from Panini! Very unfair to many collector too!
I felt like I had come up with my panini redemptions. Traded in 4 lower cards(Chase college rpa, trevon walker /99 from select, etienne /199 from black, quay walker neon orange /30) for a Fields NT booklet. I felt great until the season started 😂
Lame packs but that Trip and Baneski looking nice back there. Fellow Grizz fan here as well. You think we can stay afloat in the west before 12 gets back?
Hey do you have any Ja Morants you will be will to send a long time subscriber with the PAC Man signature on the plastic case. Been watching you for years, I know your man is Jaren Jackson Jr, but we are both Memphis fans. Just figured I would ask, also if you have any PAC man decals. Just inbox me if this is something you could do, I can send you my info. I’ve been waiting for my Ja Morant 2020 illusion signature series for 2 and half years now. So annoying
By 2029, they will be replacing the never sent sparkle packs with Panini Points. And who knows what they'll send to replace the points they don't send. What a trash company. Not sure why anyone gives them any money at all.
I see a class action lawsuit about to break out. Using the pandemic at this time is no excuse. I had a panini service rep tell me over the phone athlete's are not signing. I've been waiting on Julio rodriguez to /25 and they said.. he's not signing
Not the worst thing ever, because you are still getting short prints... But, the math doesn't add up. Between all the blues that you got, and who knows the value of the redemptions that were given up. Very easy to feel slighted, opening these.
The problem, is that many redemptions are meh now, but would have been of decent value back when you SHOULD have received your cards. 100% there are people who could have sold their card for a few hundred back in 2020 that now is worth $15 or less. Half of making money off of cards is in timely selling, and if you have to wait years for a card, you miss your window. This happened to me. I had a redemption that was selling for $85-$125 back in 2020 that today is maybe a $30 card. Moral.of the story: F Panini, stop giving them any money.
I think leaf flash makes the best cards.. always centered.. perfect condition... you'd think the higher end cards would have those qualities but nooooooo
Nah because the people would actually react, I stopped buying cards years ago but the people that do still spend 1k on sparkle cardboard that’s damaged and off centered and don’t do anything lmao it’s a joke tbh glad I don’t buy boxes anymore
Just for testing, I took my two packs and laid a piece of notebook paper on the back foil and lightly shaded it to see if I could tell... You 💯 percent can !!! I traced a /199 and an /8 clear as day. Have pics with a warning on my Facebook. Wish I could add it here. Sadly there will always be scumbags in every hobby/profession. I imagine this is exactly what the seller did to packman which is fkn dispicable
So panini just cheaped out even more? It costs them almost nothing to print a card. But to get the autograph for the redemption costs money. It’s time to stop buying panini until they actually appreciate their customers.
right, they just made up some bullshit and said here and oh...yeah they say only redemptions that are "10-15$" value for these ,right? But then they turn around and will value your 75$ redemption as a 15$ one....panini is playing everyone, glad their bout to be gone. kick rocks panini.
What's the thoughts? Ripping for rookies? Of course, it's a massive risk. The only people that make money are the resellers...and the 3,664 ppl that pulled bangers...(btw, that's madeup math) Edit: it's Friday, too typsy to type...bar much?
HOLD ON ….. So I have a 2013 Select Football expired redemption , are you saying Panini will now honor expired redemption’s and send me something in return for it instead of taking the big “L” ?? Please say yes lol
Problem being, those $15-$20 cards today, very well may have been very valuable at some point over the last several years. If panini had just lived up to what they offer, then people could have sold the cards when they had more value. At most, a pack like this should be an option, not just the thing you automatically get. They should be forced to pay whatever the highest ever sale of the card was between now and when the card was redeemed. That would be the fair way to handle this.
I have been waiting on a Kyle Pitts auto for like 2 years and finally today they gave me 7000 panini points for it. Not sure if that was a good deal or not
You know what is disgusting about that? They are obligated to send you the redeemed card free. No shipping. But with points, they will charge you like $8 for shipping. That's for shipping you the replacement for the card they were supposed to send you for free. I hate Panini.
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Quit FEEDING THE beast that is PANINI..
None of the cards today are worth what they charge.. PERIOD..
I’ve learned so much about the hobby. I use to collect when I was a kid. My dad use to take me to LCS for a few packs and sometime I would get lucky and get a box of Proset lol.
I wanted to get into ripping boxes on zzz YT for fun. What equipment do you need? Would you do a behind the scenes footage? It would be greatly appreciated. @PackmanCards
All these collectors need to grow some balls and sue panini for scamming customers. You could have a redemption that they still have, but they'll send you this instead of digging through their own mess for it. They've even got plenty of high dollar cards being backdoored. So an employee could steal my redemption, and all I get is a random pack with no guaranteed value? It's complete BS. They need to be sued beyond belief.
Edit: guess I should specify class action lawsuit, since so many people think I'm talking about Individuals suing over their $10 redemptions... which is just ridiculous, and would never gain traction. But thousands of people as a collective? Now we're cooking with gas.
THIS!!!! RIGHT HERE!!! LOOK EVERYONE! There is a fellow collector who understands the situation and knows the correct action to take. Pull your heads out of the sand and stand up for yourselves!!!
Panini could give a f about its consumers.
@@toualee1430 which is exactly why they should be put out of business.
@TherosSoultaker it's just so weird to me that no lawfirm has jumped on this mountain yet. They're breaking contracts yearly that they make with the customer on purchase. If I purchased a redemption, and I submitted my redemption years ago. It should be held to the standards that panini held at that time. If I pull a redemption now, sure, white sparkle pack, who cares. But if I had a kobe auto waiting for 10 years. I expect whatever the protocol was 10 years ago to be what they use for my card! They're literally lying to people in a gambling space. While casino's are scum and use everything to their favor. They never cheat you directly, because it puts them at risk of being sued into oblivion for falsifying odds. Panini actively falsified odds on a gambling product and promotes it to kids! They're huge pieces of shit. Worst company to ever hit the card scene.
Idk if it's actually what's going on, but he's saying they're giving these in exchange for $10-15 redemptions. Seems like a fair enough trade
You bought searched packs that's why they were all /199. You can use your fingernail and feel the numbering on the back of the pack with no need to open it. Don't buy these on the secondary market unless you are happy with /199. Panini was dumb enough to make is easy for people
Ya that's an extremely rookie mistake by Panini. That's like selling single packs that have RPA chances without any chance of a filler.
100%, came here to say the same. I think they could also put a piece of paper on top of the pack and shade with a pencil to see the outline of the numbering. Terrible decision by panini to put the numbered card on the outside.
You are correct sir!
😂😂 the fact you think you can actually use your fingernail and “feel” the number when you have no feeling in your fingernails lmao
You can absolutely feel with your fingernails. There is a layer of dermis under them that relays nerve signals to the brain. Maybe you have dead nerve endings. lol@@WhosWatchingWhat
How does Panini not have a class action against them
Because we're the same cowards that allowed our government to shut down our country for the flu 2.0
Same thing happened to me, 5 packs only 1 red rookie (Ochai). Pretty convinced whoever distributed these knew where the rookie packs were, and the rest were sold to us plebs
I wonder if you could feel the serial number on the back? At least feel if it is 3 digits for a blue or less for the others and search that way. Might be wary in purchasing off eBay.
Ya for sure. It would take some slow and steady attempts but has to be possible.
very possible, these were def searched @@BengalBuckeye
Panini needs to get sued this is literally such BS imagine how many people have waited for redemptions worth WAY more than these bogus packs worth probably less than 20 bucks this is just disappointing
Thanks for taking one for the team bro! Mahalo for the effort and yes, someone got to those packs…unreal! No rookies????
I am going to buy a hobby box of basketball cards!!! But can you please tell me which on I should buy?!?
Ouch. It's almost like these packs were ripped then resealed with the worst cards possible.
Pretty sure they were
I would love to see the foil they are packed in. I have got resealed packs like these.
Is it just me or did you see writhing in the Dominique Wilkins when he had it upside down
Is this similar for NFL redemptions? I’m getting a replacement sent to me and it just says the Type is pack and the Program is 2022 NFL Prizm (Qty-1)
Multicolor Sparkle Pack Odds:
1 # Color Per Pack
144(Blue)+24(Gold)+8(Green)= 176
176x300(Cards in base set) =52,800
81.8% Chance of a Blue
13.6% Chance of a Gold
4.5% Chance of a Green
If the Red Sparkles were numbered, they would be /352
Or
They are numbered /350 and 600 packs have 2 color (1.1%)
I'm waiting on redemntions over a year now but all it shows is an option to redeem for points? The cards are low numbered bol and rui autos and a cracked ice hayes contenders auto...I'd rather have the cards than these packs but what do you think?
Email them about some replacements been pending since 2020 . This was their response.
Due to the pandemic, we are experiencing a backlog in fulfilling requests. Please bear with us as we are actively working on getting your tickets processed as soon as possible. As soon as there are updates, we will reach out to you immediately.
😂
OMG 😂
Mail?
Seriously THE WORST customer service ever! They don’t care. Enjoy being out of a job soon! Kharma is a b*****!!
@@BengalBuckeye yeah 😂 3 Years later , Funny how many products they can pump in the same time frame tho. Not sure how they get backlogged.
The numbered card is on the back you could feel the number dimples easy to find out.
Yea I wish they put the numbered card in the middle or put a filler of some sort
So the Jaden Ivey redemption I just bought is worthless?? Or still redeemable? It expires in March 2025
These packs made me want to punch my own face for watching them be opened LOL
I just pulled a 1on1 tty washtion lucky from a other set how much do you think its worth
How can i buy that ant??
Is the Ingram on your arena club?
you say in the bgining on the first pack that the blue card felt thick... what if green or gold feel a bit thicker and there is a way to tell?
Can you just tell me how to use the panini points?
Damn that was tough to see lol 😂
Only cards I liked were Tim Duncan, Vince Carter, Dominique Wilkins and Patrick Ewing. I’ll take that Tim Duncan tho lol 😂
I guess if I had to choose between not ever receiving anything or getting one of these packs, I'd take the pack. They seem rough, though, so maybe I'd just sell it.
would u buy a box with redemptions in it going forward when this is what will happen tho?
@@mattnick23 It wouldn't make me more likely to buy them, that's for sure.
Yea I definitely think selling is the way to go imo
Broo is the wendell moore for sale?😁
Soooooo glad Panini is on the way out the door! This is horrendous
@PackmanCards I’ve learned so much about the hobby from your videos. I use to collect when I was a kid. My dad use to take me to LCS for a few packs and sometime I would get lucky and get a box of Proset lol.
I wanted to get into ripping boxes on zzz YT for fun. What equipment do you need? Would you do a behind the scene video?
When is the Jalen giveaway
Those packs can be cherry picked. It’s actually pretty easy. I’m surprised you haven’t figured it out. 🤪
Are you selling that Dalen Terry? Lol
I like the sparkles, but I don’t think it’s worth a lot of the redemptions they’re exchanging them for
I've never seen anyone make up the cost of the sparkle packs. I think they have to be like 95% misses
That was almost as rough as Monopoly boxes
Thanks for that review on Allen and ginter I bought 3 boxes bc I forgot how fun that product was and got a perfectly centered Nadal auto black frame /25
Insane hit! Congrats!!!
do we know why they wouldn't have the card... isn't that the point of Redemption cards.. for them to send it to u
Man, that was a rough one, but I like the Dominique Wilkins color match. Them Panini packs from National were pretty bad too. Man oh man. Still fun to watch you on commentary.
I feel like your packs were searched through and resealed brother I got got fine white Sparkle packs I bought five from one guy and they were all tampered with and I could never find them again on eBay
I agree I would sue them for all redemptions that never come this is getting to be ridiculous with them
Well...at least Daniel Theis is a FIBA World champ.
Class action incomming?
I wanna know where the actual redemptions dissapear too why do they never have them why offer them if they arent going to have then
People should just go rob the Panini warehouse and leave them an IOU. See how they like it.
Have 2 lower end redemptions been waiting on since December. Those were rough.
For the last couple years I have not received return in redemption as most have converted to 150 points instead of fulfill it and send it back to me, that is crap from Panini! Very unfair to many collector too!
Rookies are 1 in 6, its crazy we've opened 6 and only got one rookie?
3 rookies in 10 packs! You beat the odd!! Math baby!!
I like that Jovic sparkle!! 💥
I got 2 auto redemption from 2012 Crown Royale. I late dec 2022 I got one1 sparkle pack. In jan 2023 I got a 2nd pack. No autos and 10 yrs late.
These aren’t new?? I was getting these for redemptions 4 months ago
I'm waiting to see how many they send for my Rookie Auto Draymond...I'm hoping it's not just 1 pack since that card is worth a bit more than $15
Throw these in the pile with the Wal-Mart MJ Holdings mystery boxes 😂😂
I’ve been waiting for my Ja Morant 2020-21 penmanship auto for a year and a half now… I WANTS IT STILL!!!!!
Those look resealable they open so easy and clean
I felt like I had come up with my panini redemptions. Traded in 4 lower cards(Chase college rpa, trevon walker /99 from select, etienne /199 from black, quay walker neon orange /30) for a Fields NT booklet. I felt great until the season started 😂
Still a big W trade!
day 55 of asking packman for a whole collection video
The start of Panini Redemptiongate
Brutal. Thanks for the vid
Lame packs but that Trip and Baneski looking nice back there. Fellow Grizz fan here as well. You think we can stay afloat in the west before 12 gets back?
I think & hope so! Hoping bane and jjj can get off to a hot start with the additional looks & then keep it up when we got the full squad
Back to back Daniel Theis blue is just criminal
Hey do you have any Ja Morants you will be will to send a long time subscriber with the PAC Man signature on the plastic case. Been watching you for years, I know your man is Jaren Jackson Jr, but we are both Memphis fans. Just figured I would ask, also if you have any PAC man decals. Just inbox me if this is something you could do, I can send you my info. I’ve been waiting for my Ja Morant 2020 illusion signature series for 2 and half years now. So annoying
Will they take a few years to send the packs like they do with redemptions 🤷♂️
By 2029, they will be replacing the never sent sparkle packs with Panini Points. And who knows what they'll send to replace the points they don't send.
What a trash company. Not sure why anyone gives them any money at all.
Thank goodness all my redemtions came back fulfilled.
Hitman was buying these at the national and was doing pack wars
The NFL white sparkles have been fire on other breaks
Pulled a Gold to /24 Jabari Smith Jr, Paolo Banchero Red in the same pack, and a Stephen Curry Gold out of /24 in another pack.
I see a class action lawsuit about to break out. Using the pandemic at this time is no excuse. I had a panini service rep tell me over the phone athlete's are not signing. I've been waiting on Julio rodriguez to /25 and they said.. he's not signing
so crap you got him back to back lol
Not the worst thing ever, because you are still getting short prints... But, the math doesn't add up. Between all the blues that you got, and who knows the value of the redemptions that were given up. Very easy to feel slighted, opening these.
The math isn’t mathing there lol
Well, Theis at least owns a gold medal now
The Blue's are giving me the Blues. Thanks Panini!
Nice video. Rough overall with a few wins. Better than a meh redemption
The problem, is that many redemptions are meh now, but would have been of decent value back when you SHOULD have received your cards. 100% there are people who could have sold their card for a few hundred back in 2020 that now is worth $15 or less. Half of making money off of cards is in timely selling, and if you have to wait years for a card, you miss your window. This happened to me. I had a redemption that was selling for $85-$125 back in 2020 that today is maybe a $30 card.
Moral.of the story: F Panini, stop giving them any money.
🎉🎉🎉🎉 tuff round
Love these
I need those 3 Warriors cards!!
I think leaf flash makes the best cards.. always centered.. perfect condition... you'd think the higher end cards would have those qualities but nooooooo
People crap on leaf, but when it comes to redemptions they make sure they are fulfilled. Just ask CeeDee lamb
World Champion Theis
I have a Derek Henry out of 5 redemption I have been waiting for since April, they better not send me those packs.
This is how a company takes your valuable cards and gives you a pack of nothingness. Sounds like something our government would do.
Nah because the people would actually react, I stopped buying cards years ago but the people that do still spend 1k on sparkle cardboard that’s damaged and off centered and don’t do anything lmao it’s a joke tbh glad I don’t buy boxes anymore
Woooo!!!! a new packman video!!!
Just for testing, I took my two packs and laid a piece of notebook paper on the back foil and lightly shaded it to see if I could tell... You 💯 percent can !!! I traced a /199 and an /8 clear as day. Have pics with a warning on my Facebook. Wish I could add it here. Sadly there will always be scumbags in every hobby/profession. I imagine this is exactly what the seller did to packman which is fkn dispicable
I opened both, pulled a RC jovik to /8 and an ant man (non rook) to /199
Joe Ingles 🗣️🗣️🗣️
So panini just cheaped out even more? It costs them almost nothing to print a card. But to get the autograph for the redemption costs money. It’s time to stop buying panini until they actually appreciate their customers.
right, they just made up some bullshit and said here and oh...yeah they say only redemptions that are "10-15$" value for these ,right? But then they turn around and will value your 75$ redemption as a 15$ one....panini is playing everyone, glad their bout to be gone. kick rocks panini.
This is a huge dub.. a yuuuuuuge dub
How can ppl collect this stuff
You're probably down $40k this month in cards
I think he gets some of the stuff free but not positive
What's the thoughts? Ripping for rookies? Of course, it's a massive risk. The only people that make money are the resellers...and the 3,664 ppl that pulled bangers...(btw, that's madeup math)
Edit: it's Friday, too typsy to type...bar much?
I just started my card rip page, can I get some words of wisdom??
HOLD ON ….. So I have a 2013 Select Football expired redemption , are you saying Panini will now honor expired redemption’s and send me something in return for it instead of taking the big “L” ?? Please say yes lol
They did say $15-20 value.
Problem being, those $15-$20 cards today, very well may have been very valuable at some point over the last several years. If panini had just lived up to what they offer, then people could have sold the cards when they had more value.
At most, a pack like this should be an option, not just the thing you automatically get.
They should be forced to pay whatever the highest ever sale of the card was between now and when the card was redeemed. That would be the fair way to handle this.
right, but they are the ones placing value, ive been hearing them giving expensive cards this shitty 10-15$ value. they do what they want.
Wow bro I can’t believe all blues
Feels like a big L--trading autographs for non-autographs
So Theis we got him twice
Panini is sure going out with a bang!!!
Cool packs 🎉
😮 go big 😎 hi for HRM NS Canada 🍁
Good video but the packs rather have the redemption it's worth more cause if u take a chance and miss its over!!!!
pretty sweet!!!
u just need to feel the beveled number of each pack...
Definitely searched. Never buy these on secondary
I have been waiting on a Kyle Pitts auto for like 2 years and finally today they gave me 7000 panini points for it. Not sure if that was a good deal or not
Same prob I’m having with my Kyle Pitts
That's $250-$350 in points on ebay
You know what is disgusting about that? They are obligated to send you the redeemed card free. No shipping. But with points, they will charge you like $8 for shipping. That's for shipping you the replacement for the card they were supposed to send you for free.
I hate Panini.
they sold off the good stuff to their buddies on one of the first run!!