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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ย. 2024
- I finally managed to get enough speed stats on my relics so I made a complementary video to go with my Bronya's new achievement.
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Dreamy - DDD Tech - • 164 Speed Bronya Tech ...
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i have 170 speed on my bronya (it needs an average of 8 spd on each relic piece). the only character i have above 180 is My tingyun has 182 speed the others supports are between 160 and 170 . Tbh i have relics with 12 /9 speed but getting those is just too hard . Thats a lot of grinding man you need to live on that domain for the rest of your life and pay with your soul.
If only bronyas base speed wasn’t abysmal. If it was 112 like tingyun you wouldn’t have to use an imaginary dmg orb and hp rope like me just to hit 170 so ruan Mei can push her to 180
With E3, you can get level 12 talent: 33% advance forward.
178 speed: 56.18 + 56.18 + 37.64 -> 150.
It's maybe a substat saved.
me crying just wanting e2 bronya, but true that would definetly make it easier on the substats
@@wyattskyy E2 lets you go "full retard" in where you skill yourself to meet speed requirements.
hello happy to see similar idea on building high speed bronya so you can do a basic and get her right behind a slow dps unit
Yup and her ult is up immediately after her first push which is so nice.
Amazing video! I've been trying this out I didn't know about the specifics and this clears so many things up. wasn't working for me because I didn't have the push ability raised to 10 this changes so much for me!
I also had to use to 2 balls and take it to 10 to make my bronya work 😭
Hey, thank you for the interesting and informative video! While the theorycrafting is cool to see, I’m not convinced it’s worth giving up main/sub stats, set bonuses, or ERR% rope while trying to hit such a high speed breakpoint-especially since ERR% rope and her S1 already guarantee a 3-turn ult by using her skill 3 times. Personally, I think you start running into diminishing returns after 161 speed, both in terms of relic rolls and investment into a single character. I’m sure there are situations in which this is optimal, but I hesitate to call this the best build for Bronya given how many compromises you have to make.
Also, you can consistently get a 3-turn ult on Tingyun by running ERR% rope from a 5% ERR% set and S5 Memories of the Past or S5 Meshing Cogs with her A6 trace unlocked. 5 energy from her ult, 30 from her skill, 40 from two basics, 16 from her light cone, and 15 from starting her turn 3 times multiplied by 1.244 equals 131.8 energy.
Keep up the good work!
I should have mentioned that the main benefit of 180 speed vs 160 is that bronya acts 3 time in the first wave which might only actually matter if you’re trying to 0 cycle in which case you’d definetly opt for a real build with hp/def and err.
Also thanks for the tip on tingyun. I might not have mentioned the 3 turn ult I was talking about was if she’s using dance dance dance in which case I think you need every form of err alive lol.
19.4%+5%+ 10 from ruan meis lc and you’d also have to reup her skill on the last turn if I’m remembering correctly.
You're amazing! I appreciate so much that you listened to my suggestion of calculating on the spot xD Your video is done nicely as always! Very clear and detailed enough for understanding. Wish more people can see this video. On another note, you did sound a bit sick there, hope all is well? Anyways, great job on the video! Well done! :D
Thanks! I appreciate it. And yeah I’m still getting a bit better from a flu or something.
@@wyattskyy I see! Get plenty rest! Wish you the best!
Another good video man! ….now I await 180 speed sparkle 😂
Btw I finally stopped being lazy and got a couple vids up, one showing my support sub dps black swan build. (Likely not meta but I’m excited for it)
Thanks! I await the speedy fish as well. Also I shall subscribe!
@@wyattskyy thanks man!
You can actually do it easier with bronya + vonwaq 154 speed.Ive done this personally to zero cycle with my bronya to get my dps to move 4 turns in the first cycle.Her 3rd action still falls below 150AV. Your dps still wear attack boots but they need to be 110 speed so bronya can sit behind them after the first basic attack.
True true. Wait when you mean your dps gets 4 actions how does it skip bronya if she skills after the first basic.
Unfortunately, it only works on the first wave.
tl;dw
give bronya 2pc messenger with SPD substat + SPD boots + all the SPD you can get. (ignore other set buffs)
With Dance Dance Dance S5, 165 is your spd breakpoint
Great vid however to make this work you’d need your dps to be no less than 107 spd ik this isn’t a big deal but a small detail so people can build their dps accordingly. For instance someone like blade with 97 base spd would need one more spd roll even with Ruan mei. Also for people who somehow did get 180 spd without mei now their blade would need 10 total spd from subs. Again very small detail but needs to be noted imo.
Very true. Thanks for pointing that out! That makes sense since she doesn’t lap my ruan Mei and I keep at her at 109 sometimes.
I currently built my Bronya with 161 speed, 150 Crit DMG, 30ish Effect Res with Broken Keel ER rope. Bronya LC
Only level 8 Talent, coz I don't think it is a priority than her Lvl10 Skill and Burst.
And I haven't unlocked her 2 Crit DMG traces.
(Not sure if they are worth getting since my Bronya barely does DMG and the Crit DMG bonus scaling are "miniscule" that I would rather focus my other stats on Survivability)
And Purple tier trace Mats RNG are barely noticeable, even at TB70, a pain to farm for)
I just adjust according to scenario, when I should do BA to Skill
Or Skill spam when my DPS' bursts are ready and I have 2 Skillpoints spared.
That’s a great build my previous one was very similar before I scrapped together all the speed I could find. And ik right those traces seem almost minuscule for the amount of books you have to put in them.
Great video man👍
So far with my rainbow set I can only reach 161 181 seems to be impossible with just relics 😨
I have no idea how anyone can get 180. That’s legit 4 extra rolls of speed in every single piece. Ruan meis talent changes everything because 170 is hard but doable compared to the otherworldly 180
How far could u push bronya if u have dance dance dance and over 200 speed?
Would the new ornament set for fire break help make it easier to hit 170 now?
Will bronyas E2 mess anything up or is it fine still?
do you have any tech for e2 bronya?
I need e1 bronya first 😭😭
I’m at e4s1 bronya with 160 speed and 197 cd. Thinking about sacrificing some cd for speed. But I use Ruan Mei for my Kafka team while using my bronya for Acheron so I’ll have to get 180 natively, which I can do, but the question is how much cd I’ll lose. Would have to check later
Very cool idea in theory, but too restrictive in practice. Not all content revolves around zero cycle clears, and this locks the two best Harmony units together into a hypercarry comp. Often it's better to split them up, especially because Ruan Mei is ideally best for dual DPS teams. More importantly, there's literally nothing in the game that requires zero cycle clears -- that's just a TH-cam flex thing. Why stress farming for 180 Bronya that locks away Ruan Mei when you can easily have 100% uptime 201+ Bronya when paired with a zero stress Asta + Von Wacq.
Most your points I can agree with. Especially just using asta. I actually just realized I forgot to talk about asta in my vid I should’ve done that. Although on your point about the game not requiring 0 cycles, my idea is that it’s just like speed running. Speeding Sekiro or Minecraft for example has no real purpose in game. It’s just another avenue players can take to have fun when they get to the endgame. Some people might prefer simulated universe run, others 0 cycles, others budget 4 star clears. I personally love 0 cycles so I try to implement them in certain cases although I know it’s definetly not for the majority of the player base.
i don't really get when people argue with people about 0 cycling . 0 cycles clears are just speed runs like in any other games . They are not required that's for sure . but why people do it ? basically to just have fun cause everyone has fun in their own way . people who do 0 cycle clears are people who have already beaten the game and want to put challenge to themselves and want to try out crazy builds . it does not matter what the comp requires even if it locks the best characters together . Its just a showcase for a strong combination . in the end of the day just enjoy the game the way you want .
You can just not watch this tech if you're not interested in 0 cycle lol.
I am trailblazer level 70 and still haven’t maxed my characters relics or gotten them anything good (I’m F2P and keep building characters) I won’t be able to get even a single relic with high speed for probably a while…
Haha I spend money and still don’t max my relics. Only the ones that really deserve it.
Hey, can you drop a google drive link to this spreadsheet? (Dont worry i wont be stealing or discrediting your work, just want it for personal use)
Sure thing! I’ll be home in a few hours and I’ll link it then
will the 180 SPD mechanic work on Sparkle?
No unfortunately you’d need 200. Bronya can get away with 180 because of the action advance on her talent.
gotta go fast
Spin spin spin. I prefer shadow tho
both
Bronya at 85% Crit Damage though and no energy regen rope? Your buffing isn't even close to being optimized along with your energy regen, and my Bronya regularly 0 cycles without needing another harmony character like Ruan Mei. This doesn't seem optimal nor does it seem practical to farm when when there are easier and more efficient ways to 0 cycle with far more flexibility. I'm always about trying things that go against meta, but this just seems weird.
My bronya is no where near perfect lol but she only gives 16% of her crit dmg as bonus on top of the 20. And in my experience the past few days. Even with her ult not being as potent, Just gaining the extra skill point is a big factor with a b-s-s rotation and it kind of makes up for the fact that I can’t roll speed on an err rope even once lol. It’s definitely not an optimal strategy but I do think it’s pretty viable especially considering it mainly just opens the door for more strategies.
I can empathize with RNG problems. But wouldn't it be easier to synthesize an energy regen rope for Bronya at this point instead of hoping for 3x or 4x speed upgrades when you level up your relics? lol. Still... I can respect you trying something new while ignoring her Crit Damage ceiling. That's one good thing about HSR - they give us that freedom to do so. Good luck on future energy ropes! 😄@@wyattskyy The video was at least interesting to listen to.
Does this also work for e2 Seele?
if you mean her having 3 actions in turn yeah. either a mix of stacking speed with her e2 or basic attacks for the 20% av will probably work.