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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
- Bikotic is finally back with a new video - looking at what I call the new breed, lightweight, all round aero road race bikes -
01:00 Scott ADDICT RC PREMIUM
02:04 Focus IZALCO MAX DISC 9.9
02:54 Cannondale SUPERSIX EVO HI-MOD DISC
05:47 Orbea ORCA OMX M10iLTD-D
08:36 Wilier 0 SLR (ZERO SLR)
11:32 Ventum NS1
12:50 Colnago V3Rs - กีฬา
I’m here to tell you and viewers that you are right in predicting futures! 2021 SL7 is coming 0:48
The amount effort you put Into these videos with the photoshop, and the measurements is so evident. Always love your videos. Keep up the good work :)
A video on best looking bikes in the pro peloton would be appreciated by many on the channel I suppose. I find your analysis quite intricate and would like to watch more videos of you comparing bikes purely on aesthetics
The SuperSix Evo wheelbases listed are correct. The fork rake on the 54cm and smaller is 55mm vs 45mm on the larger bikes. Also the smaller sized have slacker HT angles, further elongating their wheelbases.
Good to see another video. I have a Ribble endurance SL disc. Fully integrated aero bike, but half the price.....interested to see how it compares to the super bikes in today's video.
Noticed a lot of request videos in the comments so I'll do the same.
Cube litening v look 795 blade v rondo hvrt. Or a battle of the force AXS factory builds.
Thanks and welcome back.
Good job on the Orbea aero calculation, missed ya!
Greatly appreciate your efforts. Thank you for doing this for all of us.
Thanks for the great video! Already bought mine... but really like to see all the specs 👍
You have great taste! (I recently ordered an Orbea OMX frameset, size 57.) I love the modern combination of lightweight, disc, and semi-aero, so I compared the same set of bikes. In the US, the OMX frame costs $3,500, which is significantly less than some of the hi-mod frames ($5,000+.) Also, I want to run my own bars, so I appreciate the u-channel stem design. An interesting design choice is the oversized head tube bearings with cables running inside. The negative is a fat, non-aero head tube profile. The positives are stiffness, no binding of brake lines, and a not-unreasonable setup/maintenance situation.
From front axle through forks, steerer, downtube, bottom bracket (BB386 EVO), and fat chain stays to the rear axle, this bike should be efficient in putting down the power and have a solid platform for handling descents. The svelte top tube , seat tube, and drop seat stays, plus room for 32mm tires should keep it comfortable without any gimmicks.
Regarding geometry, I strongly prefer a short rake for linear handling and this has 43mm. The reach and stack aren’t super aggressive like the Willier, and that suits my preference. Add in nice details like the elegant seat post clamp, sculpted fork to frame joint, and Di2 port - plus custom paint - and this was my clear winner. Can’t wait for it’s late-January arrival!
And you can customize colors for no extra cost. Amazing looking frame...
Kevin Toth - Since I posted that, I’ve received the frame, built it up, and have done many rides, including big climbs and a Century this past Saturday. The OMX is fantastic! Great quality. Beautiful paint. Stiff as can be on fast descents, yet the seat tube/post area really compliant. The handling is ideal - quick and precise without being twitchy. Yes, there are lighter bikes, but the OMX checks every box, is on the lower end of the price scale for a modern, integrated frame, and you get to choose your colors. No regrets. Many, many smiles. 😀😀😀
@@JonFairhurst hey...:) I was going to ask and you just posted. Thanks for pointing out the beefy head tube which I like. Can I ask which color you went for. Matte or glossy.? If you went for glossy let me know if it chips. Oh and congratulations :))
Kevin Toth - I went with a matte paint job. The main color is mouse gray with metallic graphite as the fade-to color. Black forks with the titan pattern. The Orbea logos and fork highlight are lemon yellow. The top of the top tube is black and my name is metallic graphite. I love the color combo.
The main challenge with the matte finish is that it can soak in grease, so it’s important to keep it clean. I use a 4:1 mixture of water and Simple Green in a spray bottle. I spray a bit on a cloth to wipe off any grease spots. Glossy paint would be easier, but the matte gray has a specific character that glossy gray lacks. Matte gray has a kind of rugged look. Glossy gray can look like an appliance. I have no idea if it is more prone to chipping.
BTW, I went with Ultegra Di2, which works great. Electronic makes sense with a hidden cable frame to avoid and binding or resistance due to sharp angles. The front brake hose turns 100% with the fork. The Di2 wires are soft and pliable. That just leaves the rear brake hose, which turns 100% freely. That means that the steering turns from one extreme to the other with no effort. Depending on how you set up the bars, it could chip the paint on the top tube. (I have one little spot from when the bike was being built up.) When storing my bike or using it on a stand, I use a bungee to keep the wheel straight. It flops around so easily! Very different from a bike with four cables flopping in the wind in front of the stem! My old rim brake bike looks so untidy now!
@@JonFairhurst I also loved the mouse grey until I saw a video called dream build ORX where a glossy white was displayed with glossy gold logo. The titanium pattern on the fork is a must. It's so cool we can customize colors so we don't end up with factory colors. I wish we I could select glossy and matte with same color on the frame but we can't. If you choose only one color you only can select matte or glossy. Why we can't mix. I would even pay extra. Anyway fantastic frame and finally with no extra charge we can choose colors and even patterns. Interesting to see so many color combinations on Facebook and Instagram.:)))
Great video again, thank you Bikotic.
I like your comparison videos. I’ve recently changed my scott foil to madone slr rim brake and loving it
Missing you.....
Totally agree with your Tarmac/Venge mix. What’s more: my thoughts went there when I bough my last road bike (I’ve one venge) in a blend like yours plus blending also the seatposts.....
Thx for your video 👍
Great video!
Where do you see the new Cube litening in the mix? Light bike turned aero bike, or a member of the new breed? Would love to see that bike included in a future video.
First time viewer. One minute in & already thinking you're a genius.
Hello, I could ask you to make the comparison between scott foil rc and addict rc 2020 or 2021
Very clever! NB -- the Orbea Orca measured at 7.5 kg on Bike Radar is a size 57, not 53. (Warren Rossiter is tall!) A GCN video with the same DA Di2 setup at size 55 produced a real time weight (on screen) of 7.35 kg with computer mount.
Nice superimposing of the bikes and I just love the humor! "Tarmenge" (don't have the money & don't trust super glue) Ha! Glad you're back and thanks for sharing.
Very interesting! My only questions would be to ask if it was possible to take the wheels / finishing kits into consideration with the pricing at the end, and not just groupset. It may be that some manufacturers are using more expensive (not necessarily better) finishing components. And I know that Canyon are a direct to consumer supplier also, which saves some money :)
Having a bike that is more aerodynamic is a good thing. I’m just not sure a deep section rim of between 50-60mm is that great for us mortals who can’t ride a bike at 40kph for 40km to get the advantage. Heavy and slow to accelerate too.
Great review as usual. 👍🏻
just found this, thanks a lot for the careful analysis,
Thanks! Great stuff!
Rose has hands down the best value for money bikes, even better than Canyon. The Dura Ace Di2 model is pretty light for a disc bike (6,7 kg specified weight). You can also choose gearing ratio, stem length and some components which not many brands offer.
Great video, can you tell me what you purchased. I went looking for an Emonda and I was kind of pushed to a Madone, still pondering. Emonda is a good bit cheaper than the Madone, and lighter.
Great to see another video finally!
Great stuff! Add Look to your list
Nice video. I’m still thinking about opting for a disc bike. I still think it’s only the industry pushing new tech because for sale reasons...
Welcome back!
Great content as ever thanks
Can't have it both ways, it seems that the farm gate would be the best for your local hills instead of going with looks and aero benefits that kick in at 40kmh
Love that you do these types of videos.
Could you do a video on the Wilier Cento1AIR
Holy CRAP!!!!! The man is BACK BABY!!!!!🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
This looks like the natural next step for the tarmac, just wondering when specialized will do it.
Ill take my traditional frame 2019 Supersix Evo all day. Has character. These are seriously lacking that. With that said I’d snatch the orbea over the others ! They build great bikes.
Got a new Himod in box for racing next year. 3000 euro with 9150, 6.2kg with 50mm tubs.
@@Jeff-bd4gg Beauty could also be in the eye of the beer-holder.
@@Eagleburger90 where can you race with a 6.2 kg bike?, UCI limit as far as I know is still 6.8kg.
David Cummings In races not sanctioned by the UCI. Most cycling races aren’t under the UCI, or only partly, and don’t have the same ridiculous rules.
I'm eager to see how Giant responds to all these dropped-stay bikes, will they change the iconic TCR? All eyes are on them now.
Paddyhudson There’s a new TCR already registered with the UCI for 2020👍🏼
@@imstillhere6678 perfect time to pick up a 2019 TCR, I suppose 🤔
@@ayowser01 Absolutely. As good as any reason to pick up a new bike ;)
@@imstillhere6678 y by
BR example was Ultegra equipped, GCN weight a DA model at 7.3 with cages
Wow, you predicted the new SL7 last year... or they listened? Either way, WOW!
Excellent video nice compared transitions
First time viewer. Fantastic video! Really looking forward to getting into your channel. Cheers from Los Angeles.
The tarmac is 14.5lbs for the disc. its remarkable how these other 'super' lightweight bikes are all over UCI limit except for the wilier. You should compare the Factor VAM O2 that will be lighter than the sworks
I'd be very happy if you did a "best bang for buck comparison" on climbing / aero road bikes in the ~4000£ range. Essentially a similar video to this one but instead of the pro bikes, take the high end amateur range which is about 4000£.
But isn't it the same bikes as these but just in a lower spec?
@@Rainyfeels well yeah, but as we've seen you have diminishing returns as you go up the price range, and above 4000£ it becomes pretty marginal for the average amateur. So it makes a lot more sense for us average joes to compare the best money can buy in the 3000 to 4000£/€ range than to compare top end bikes.
Please compare some endurance bikes like : Cervelo C, Giant Defy, GT Grade
Great vid. Would you please consider doing the same thing but at the mid range level. Ie. Essentially the same bikes but with Ultegra Di2? Just as interesting but slightly more financially achievable. Thanks. P.S. I would genuinely value your take on this. Thanks again
Can you do some triathlon/Tt bike pls
Canyon speed max vs cerrvelo p5 vs felt vs diamondback vs trek vs bmc thanks
The big question for me, electronic shifting or mechanical?
I to love the orbea ...iv been looking at the Orbea Orca aero m30 in silver and red (cycle republic)but with the shimano 105 groupset £3,000 ?
If you can do some comparison magic for bikes £2,500-£3,000 would be nice and more realistic lol
Love your videos man! What about R5?
What two bikes did you buy?
Awesome!!
Gotta love the orca 😍
I liked the farm gate look of the old Cannondales. The problem is the bb30 & BB30a standard they use is crap! Theirs is especially crap!
Very interesting content. Like your casual and humorous approach to the topic. Liked, subbed, all the best to you.
Tarmac for life!
Nice video but disagree with your verdict. Also, why don't you use ultegra di2 for comparison? Much better value obviously. And include the ribble!
00:45 SL7..... ;)
Lol! You already had the SL8 designed before the SL7 came out! 😂
I'm probably a little biased in saying I like the supersix Evo myself, being that I have the caad13. How about an updated video on the supersix and caad13 and how they've now adopted aero. ✌🏽
amazing video, great work
& gravel bikes?
wow you came back!
Would like to see how the Cervelo Caledonia5 measures up against these
The Wilier SLR is easily the best looking bike you looked at.
Joe Joe looks stupid with disc brakes
Guess who's back
Can I have an alloy tarmenge with 105 please. I'm on a budget.
Lol, I'd like to have it too. It's the best of both worlds, lightweight and aero! Maybe there would be a Trek Madenda or Canyon Ultimaroad (or should it be Aemate?) someday too.
Nice vid
Cool bikes. But I really prefer rim brake bikes.
The Ventum 0ne actually isn't that "super aero", simply because the separation between the back of the front wheel and the rest of the frame is way too big, which in the real world (i.e turbulent flow) is drag inducing.
Nice videos! Surprise how good your videos are!
Turnbthevquick release so the handle is horizontal
Eerily accurate prediction for the SL7.
I wish I would thumb up 100000 more times!
supersix evo is made for taller people, the stack and reach is to llok before chosing the size
Very interesting video, well done) Just subscribed)
why tf is cannondale taller ? -_- . catering to the relaxed endurance market?
im in the usa... i wish we had the izalco max here :( . too bad focus pulled out.
I purchased the 9.9 2 years ago after getting hit by a car(on phone) and snapping my original Focus Izalco(rim brake) rear triangle in half. I absolutely love EVERYTHING about the bike. It is pretty light(54) for a disc bike. Fast, great handling..No negatives at all....
Pagaría por verlo en español.creo que debe ser un video muy bueno
wish I could speak Spanish!
Personally I prefer the Venmac
was horribly missing u
litespeed m3 2015 please
Love the video, hate the bikes.
Disappointed in the weight of the izalco max :/
change to a stembar from farsports, immediately minus 150 grams, the stock stem is what's super heavy
Do not understand why the price of bikes is so high.
"lightweight" Only the Wilier and Tarmac approach anything I'd consider light...
This video aged well
Great, you're back 😃✌️
uh oh wireless brakes exist
Loveee your videos
Quintana Roo also just released a bike in this category quintanarootri.com/products/srfive.
Subscribed
They all look the same.
Wireless brakes! Hell no!!!! You forget to charge your brakes and you die thank you no thank you...
dont worry, they can just stick a KERS system on, simples, what could go wrong
Disc brake rubbish..don’t see jumbo lotto riding disco or ineos...
Welcome back!