Also, having a 'Work Computer' and a 'Home Computer' is very good for focus. I have a Study computer that is basic junker parts and my gaming PC. I built it cause I couldn't use my gaming PC cause I kept distracting myself with habits I have ingrained from using my gaming PC. Such as Social Media, Gaming, Watching films. When I sit at my Study PC, I know it's time to study. I don't check social media. I don't check anything. I zero in on work. Having a Work/Home separation via Desktop/Laptop can be a very good thing for productivity.
It really is. I recently setup my old Core 2 Quad machine specifically for getting stuff done, works pretty well, oh and I use a separate desk too. The only downside to that machine is anything newer than Win7 just doesn't run well enough, but it doesn't really go online that much and stuff doesn't get downloaded so it should be fine at least until I get a newer machine to use for that sort of thing. The sort of work I do with the machine is generally scripting, and some light photo editing. Also yes I know running Windows 7 is a bad idea, but I have put some things in place to at least make it safer, such as using a supported web browser (firefox) and a non admin account.
@@mercuryrising9758 That's the old editing workstations; the new ones were in a video a while back. I'm pretty sure they're using 12th gen Intel for all specs, from accounting to editors, just different SKUs. Edit: check out the "The Computer I Would Actually BUY" stream. Linus builds up one of their presumably dozens of workstations.
@@ctyoung0271 To be more precise as he mentioned in "The Computer I Would Actually BUY" it's CPU: intel i5 12600k, engineering gets 12900k Motherboard: Asus ProArt Z690-Creator WIFI PSU: Seasonic Focus PX-850 GPU: Lean and flexible, Dan got a Quadro, editors get 3090s, Asus STRIX 3050 is used for the normal one. As well as bulk price selling. CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U14S though he mentions doing NH-D15 for 12900k to avoid undervolting. Case: Antec Eclipse 500A Memory: G Skill Trident 2x16 DDR5 5200, With Engineers and editors getting 2x32 DDR5 Storage:Crucial P5+ 1 TB drive(they are supposed to not store anything locally) Keyboard and Mouse are still heavily customizable.
Sometimes it's going to be more wasteful to take the risk with compromised stuff than it is to just destroy the affected item(s) due to the risk of it persisting somewhere unexpected. It depends on what you're dealing with, but malware nowadays can be extremely nasty and affect more than just the OS and external devices. If you have any doubts or concerns about whether it can be fully disinfected, it should probably just be shredded or otherwise destroyed to prevent anyone else from being affected by the item in question.
You can't just chuck out everything that could possibly contain a virus, otherwise you have no system. But introducing a known-compromised device into the network to save the $25-50 it cost is very much not worth it
Also, the cost for a new drive is negligible for a company, especially when comparing it to the amount of work that goes into it. This exact drive probably costs like 30-40$, so what you're gonna do? Spent two hours, which already costs a lot more than the drive and risk still being infected? No.
@@Hellwalker855 iirc, it was a 250ish GB drive, which isn't very big. If the drive that was already in there is larger, it's a downgrade. Could be safe due to the platform change, but I wouldn't trust it
Yeah. I don't like perfectly good hardware being destroyed. But for security reasons you just don't have other option. The risk is not worth it. It would be sad, but I would do the exact same.
Those Asus workstation boards have some remote management features too that are pretty handy for organizations in addition to thunderbolt and 10 gig, so that might be why they got picked? Worth a few extra bucks if it saves many hours of a high paid IT person.
Some people straight up don't need those features, part of the reason its so absurd is that there are a not insignificant number of people who use word documents and browsers and not much else working at the company. Things like remoting in are pretty much unescessary for those kind of roles because you can store and easily access those filesthing on the expensive server they already operate. 10 gig networking is also basically useless for most tasks, most tasks outside of handling video don't need networking more than like 40 mb
as someone in a university that uses them, no. no it has not gotten better at all. the point of licences being easier to manage is a lie when it took 2 months for the clowns in the IT department to fix AutoCAD licences.
@@baconwizard I'd avoid comparing education establishments to anything in the real world....Ever. I.T. departments are almost always chronically under funded and school IT techies mostly have to bodge janky shit together with a wallet full of dust.
@@baconwizard IT in universities is seldom much better if at all then in schools, wouldn't take that as a measuring stick. Them needing 2 months to fix licensing issues is the best proof of that.
An idea from my company is we have dedicated machines plugged in at the office, and then VPN into them with our laptops. Helps a little with that air gap you're referring too, and gives me portability to work in the office, or at home with the full power at my disposal. It doesn't fully solve your problem, but could help with some ideas.
@kmcat Remoting into jump boxes from your regular workstation is insecure, because if a keylogger is running on your computer you're remoting into your DCs and such from, it'll log your keystrokes when you remote into the DCs and enter credentials. I recommend a fully dedicated, separate workstation that's locked down; these are called Privileged Access Workstations. :)
I remember at school they had remote desktop access set up for us to do work, that required certain software, from home. This was back in like 2006 - 2008 and I remember it worked pretty smoothly. Don't know if it might present usability issues though.
that's what I do for work we use cheap small for factor computers as clients to access tot he server and it works wonderfully for the lab I work at. this will theoretically be a great solution for LTT for almost anything that isn't editing or something that requires real power.
@@xxdalionxx Exactly, it is also much more economical splitting up servers than have stand alone machines. Also there is an opportunity for much faster transfer speeds if the VDI server and storage server are located near each other.
Another problem with thin clients is being tethered to a wifi connection. Eg yesterday, I spent half the day working in a library with a limited internet connection because of life admin reasons, and I couldn't have done that if either a) tied to a desktop or b) using a thin client. If I hadn't had a laptop, I just would have had to take leave yesterday morning, or worked back many more hours because I couldn't have ducked into the local library before and after my dentist appt to keep working
You guys need a CISO.... TL;DR: laptop + corporate vpn + corporate anti-virus + corporate firewall + no admin account + highly modified windows image... Managing all of this demands a help desk team + security team
As IT GRC analyst I love this conversation. This is exactly the type of dramma SME have to think all the time and how this conversation is super complex! If you want a free tip deploy laptops to employees that don't need dedicated GPU or raw power and every 3/4 years change them. If you go for framework laptops the cost might be just an updated MoBo/RAM.
My workplace (supermarket) still uses software intended to run on Windows 98 and how slowly everything "chugs" along the hardware may be equally as old.
As someone who is currently working on forcing my company to actually standardize our IT infrastructure, I feel this whole conversation in my bones. We’re a small company in personnel but a pretty big company in revenue and scope of work, so I’ve taken it upon myself (with my boss’s blessing) to spec and build all our machines so that we balance out the machine’s capabilities for the role it’s for and the cost, and making them easy to maintain should something break whilst I’m on vacation, and man, the sheer amount of money we were wasting on both overspec’d and underspec’d machines is truly staggering, as well as we were paying through the nose for those machines from the usual big name OEMs.
12:14 Regarding laptop working. I've been using exclusively Dell Precision laptops for my work for the last 6 years now and they've been pretty solid. Every desk in the office has a Dell thunderbolt dock and most people have one for home as well. It's my workplace standard dev spec laptop and it's pretty standard, 32GB Memory, i7-11850H. My previous one was similarly gen equivalent specced and also had touch screen & a Quattro. Honestly, for work I can't imagine going back to using a desktop anymore. My only issue is trying to find a duel display port KVM switch that doesn't cost the moon for home use.
15:30 as someone who works in a hospital to wait 3-5 min till the system has bootet while you sit there with the knowledge you have 80 billion other things to do because of Staff shortage is frustrating and generates unnecessary stress
For low spec it's hard to imagine a better solution than a mini PC mounted to the back of the monitor with the VESA mount. They're cheap small and quiet, can take 1 or 2 M.2's, a 2.5" HDD, up to 64GB of RAM but 32GB makes more sense, and can have 2.5G NICs, and typically can use up to 4 displays.
The place I work has exactly the opposite workstations specs that you guys use. We use single core 2004 computers to run windows 7 and dual cores from 2006 to run important applications and they run extremely poorly, reducing productivity, but the owners of the company think they are saving a lot of money using super old under specd computers.
Unfortunately this is the mentality. Cutting costs is good if it’s not necessary but saving $40 to lose out on $200 is stupid as a business. Reminds me of how my dad is always sent shitty laptops for work when they pay him $100ish per hour. Keep in mind while he does business stuff it’s like only half his job and for efficiency it’s not like he closes his programming client. His job is super technical. It’s essentially monitoring and fixing code written by outsourced Indian workers and managing that team and malting sure work gets done and done well and explaining the issues and stuff to the purely business department that couldn’t understand a single line of code - no judgment I’m into finance so neither would I. It’s also the same bs with the outsourced Indian workers. Despite what it may seem their not cheap the total costs are around $55 per hour for the Indian programmers when all expenses are accounted for and instead of spending like $800 on decent mini pcs they spend $500 on shitty laptops and the Indian workers can’t do real work not that they care much but it’s a bottleneck that’s not necessary. Unfortunately things do get inefficient just as they get bigger but that’s just something we accept since economies of scale far outweighs them.
A video on the process of disinfecting a bios/uefi from an infection would be nice to have. I've tried running the installer to overwrite the old image but since the version is the same as the installer, it just cancels pending image instal after restarting to do it. So that would be helpful to know how to do that.
17:07 you can use a VDI for something like an ansys simulation..... Most of the licenses for engineering software are "floating licenses" so your company will have, for example, 5 licenses that are floating but 9 engineers who need access to the program meaning that only 5 people at a time would have access to it. There is a program called OpenLM to help in this and that program will suspend any floating license program.
I got the impression that they think thin client always equals shared desktop. You could also do thin clients with dedicated VDI's. So at my last company, they had a Citrix VDI environment and there were two types of VDIs. There were shared VDIs which used a roaming profile where you had access to a browser or could launch a shared XenApp, but it was a shared windows server on the backend. They also had dedicated VDI's where a user had persistent storage and installed applications. And it was literally just a Windows 7 VM (and later 10) that was just for an individual user. They also supported 2FA login and the nice thing about that was I could just use the Citrix Workspace app on my personal machine without having to enroll in any MDM type stuff.
For regular work flow, ie spread sheets, emails, and cloud things, we limit those to the network. Anyone working remotely has to vpn and RDP to their desktop.
My company has struggling desktops and I am begrudgingly speccing out rtx A series cards (Solidworks). I toyed around with speccing a virtual environment and running thin clients instead. I would love to see a video on 'thin clients in 2023' especially from a management & cost perspective
What do you mean by “trained”? Like going to College? As an IT pro for more than 10 years. College does not prepare one for reality in IT. Certs can help but even then most will forget what they studied for, if you don’t do it for a long time after certification. Linus and his tech enthusiasts are leaning on the job and continuously maintaining a real business It infrastructure. They know more how actual businesses IT infrastructure works than any professor at college will. All professors do is parrot theory and examples from the overly expensive college textbooks and media.
@@JasonB808 hello from Australia! I'm aware lol, Uni/college is great for general theory, but spend your hard earned on something from Comptia. I'm an ICT Service Manager in a regional MSP. When I refer to training I mean actual training, real world hands on experience and mentoring from other IT Pro's. Some of the mistakes they've made over the years were easily avoided, things like centralised policy management, role based access control, even something as simple as the 3-2-1 backup rule. This is all staff we train our junior L1 helpdesk staff.
@@PALADIN867 Also from Australia. I'm an IT Technician for a public institution. At a bare minimum we have a TAFE Certificate 3 or 4 and all of that stuff was taught to us via these courses. Plus most of my peers and myself started via paid work based traineeship.
Yeah, it amazes me they buy a $600 board for EVERYONE when they could buy $600 Dell/HP and standardise that way. Beasts for editors makes sense but everyone else can get an optiplex i5 with 16gb 🤷🏻♂️
I have a "business PC" I built that ONLY gets turned on to online shop, do online banking and read email, then it gets powered down. It's got an 8th Gen Pentium and an m.2 SSD. It's the perfect Facebook box that will never be contaminated by Facebook.
This is why my small company hired out IT to handle machine, server, AWS, etc setup. We don't like them for the AWS stuff anymore due to client timing needs, but for machine management and internal server resources they're fine.
Thin clients...might actually be good on a LAN. I'm pretty sure every instance of a thin client I've used was connecting over WAN and that was _actually_ terrible for obvious reasons.
Talking about VDI, the company that I work for uses mainly non persistant VDI for all its call agents (we do have some persistant) and anyone accessing the secure portions of the network. (being a unix admin, most of my work is done on one of those machines). The only complaint that I have is that they cheeped out and each VM has a very limited amount of recources (2 cores and 4 or 6 GB of ram) and as a result run slow. However I know that they can run way better as I use a VM at home for all my home infrastrture work.
LMG should consider having a standardised work laptop option. You have a work PC, but also a somewhat locked down laptop to access work stuff outside company premises. Along with vpn to connect all work devices, so folks can access remotely their work PCs.
Wrote to you folks repeatedly about a way to do highly available data storage and got absolutely ghosted :) Glad to hear you're finally hearing what HA is.
You could have multiple standards for the workstations. You could have the majority using docked company laptops or thin clients. The video editors and engineers can remote into rack mounted workstations. Just wondering what exactly is a thin client I'm just someone who has learned about tech almost exclusively through TH-cam and being on a robotics team.
A thin client is just a small computer that can't do much on its own (typically running some embedded os) but is used to remote access a server. They're typically about the size of an apple TV or similar device. They're cheap and, depending on the workplace, are an easy substitute for having dedicated workstations for every employee.
I’d really like to see what an attempt at doing thin clients at LMG would entail. It’s clearly not for everyone, but given that you have 10G networking etc. how feasible is it at your scale? What are the major pain points. What kind of infrastructure is required. Can it be done with Proxmox, do you need some pricey VMWare solution etc.
If you keep the VDI server and storage server in the same location, you will get the fastest possible transfer speeds while not saturating the local network. Therefore thin clients and laptops don't need 10G networking LMG is paying extra for. It is a much better option for scalability and especially security. If they are really serious they can have a backup server hosted externally for essentially bulletproof downtime management (assuming it is all configured correctly). It also allows more flexable working arrangements, which I personally think benefits both employees and employers (conserving office space + business continuity).
My company has engineering laptops, recently everyone upgraded to Dell Precision machines. Absolutely bonkers how fast they are. They're nice because I have the flexibility to WFH if I want/need to. We use VPNs to access work programs/CAD licenses at home, and then that machine is always work, no personal computer casually clicking sketchy links.
Had a massive project in which we built the physical infrastructure for a fictional company and heavily relied on dell thin clients for a massive price drop off traditional OptiPlex desktops and with the RDP based Dell Thin OS, which I assume all manufacturers have, thin clients seemed provide mostly benefits. No clue on how that worked out in the past however.
You should instead ask AV companies around, maybe one of them would analyze what was there, add detection, tell you if it could infect bios etc. And you could make video about what to do after you get infected. But smashing things also works.
The pc security channel took a look at the malware that hacked them on his channel and the malware is detected by AVs but the file is overbloated with empty data known as padding which causes AVs to skip the file in order to speed up scanning as the empty data makes it think that the file is an audio or video file. In his video he removed rhe empty data then uploaded it to one of the many online scanners and it immediately identified what it was, after the empty data was removed.
I’d say VDI only if employees work from home if they don’t have a dedicated work machine that is properly secured according to the company’s security policy
If I could edit video I'd cut Luke smashing the drive with the power rangers opening theme where rita pops out and says "after 10 thousand years I'm free"
It's weird for me to hear you say the editors can't go virtual because their requirements are too high. My experience as a software dev is that I do everything in a remote session precisely because my requirements are too high to work locally.
I'm building my first machine rn and I can barely afford the $200 board I chose. All I can say is it hurts to hear about $600-800 boards being used, or rather "not" used, in generic office machines lol
Well I see why and I’m sorry if it’s any consolation my computers broken and I legit need a computer and the one I want is $530 and I want a $50 1tb sata ssd once I get it since it comes with only 512gb. Keep in mind for me a computer is purely a tool I couldn’t care less as long as it works fast that’s all I ask and I’m not super demanding just my computer is a budget gaming laptop from 2017 so it’s lived a good life. If it’s any consolation at least lmg workers get to use good equipment. Although if they could spend that money on better worker pay that would be nice seeing as they seem to both underpay their employees and break the law by not allowing employees to discuss salaries. To get ahead of what might be said whatever one’s views are 1)it’s literally law that salaries must be allowed to be discussed at work 2) rules that are illegal prevent people from getting to take advantage of the law if they want to since most assume a company especially one like lmk isn’t breaking the law and 3) it’s been shown companies that don’t allow this behavior pay lower and have large pay discrepancies that are arbitrary not based on position or seniority with the company/experience.
VDI actually HAS come a long way. We use Azure Virtual Desktops for a lot of our fully remote folks; you can easily replace that with something VMW Horizon.
VM's on thin clients are getting pretty good these days. They still take a bit of time to spin up depending on your resources, but latency is definitely not as unbearable. You also have the flexibility of allocating different resources depending on the job position. Security is a huge win as well keeping everything containerized. Plus you can make a video series out of it which will pay for all of the hardware.
You guys might be able to replace some of your standardized workstations with framework laptops. That would allow you to keep the serviceability and standardization while also allowing for portability and flexibility.
Laptops work really well, as somebody who's been mostly WFH off of a Macbook Pro supplied by work. I then have my Framework for personal computing. That air gap can easily be maintained just by not allowing personal apps on work-provided laptop. Maybe once the Framework 16s come out with their GPUs, they'd be a good option for LMG, given the repairability of the machines making IT provisioning and maintenance easier?
I work at one of the major power tools company as a design engineer and here, at least from what I can observe, 95% of people have a laptop. Doesn't matter if they are doing light office work or CAD simulation, everyone works on laptops, it's just so much more convenient. You have to visit a customer 7000km away for whatever reason? You'll take your laptop with you and just work from there. It's actually awesome, but man, these High-End workstation laptops are still MASSIVE in 2023 xD
Smashing it is very wasteful. The Linux command " dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/your_ssd status=progress " should fully wipe it. For the malware to persist, it has to overwrite the controller firmware on the SSD as well with something that makes their malware persist, which is also incredibly difficult to craft. Most SSDs verify firmware updates with cryptographic signatures before updating. I would do some research on the specific SSD before grabbing the hammer.
We have work laptop so we don't read any work related mails from home computer etc. For remote work I just use docking station and my home setup monitors. Laptops are what bigger companies uses because on site you usually have few meeting in different rooms. So laptop is almost mandatory or mandatory if you need present something. I think you needed to have special case to get desktop computer but you still also have laptop.
With regards to VDI's, I had to use a VDI for a significant amount of time at one job at the beginning of COVID, specifically CITRIX - was not a good experience. ~10 minute boot times, having to troubleshoot issues with it weekly, etc.
Why not have a standard setup for workstations and a standard setup for business. You could even have 3 levels for in between use cases. You’d have your standardizations but also not overbuilding to the extreme degree.
Realistically from a tech support standpoint the whole implementation is quite simple. So long as they have an active directory system or a managed to use a system you can set up a dedicated rd gateway server and multiple RDS virtual boxes for your different departments whether or not they use a minimal hardware PC or a thin client you can have it all domain connected. Then have three physical PC tears one being the highest here or something like your video editors a medium T4 graphic designers and load here for the script writers they're all connected to the same domain network it requires minimal efforts and if one thing client dies or low spec system dies they can still connect onto the domain wants the thin client RPC is replaced and domain connected if you keep everything server linked for your specific RDS users ie using roaming profiles it's fairly straightforward to configure
At my workplace you get the machine you can justify, if you are doing heavy EM simulation you might need two of the highest end GPUs money can buy every generation while people who only use browsers get the shitty dell towers from 2017 IT does not care as the points of failure are more or less the same across the line ... drives or ram, if a CPU dies (as far as i can remember its happened only a few times) you special order one in and swap out the mainboard with whatever you have laying around or give them a spare machine. Shy of a company with 10,000+ machines i don't see a real benefit in only a couple dedicated tiers of machine performance. Give a department the tier of machines they need over the next X years and keep a couple spares of each tier on hand. Also on the subject of laptops, corporate laptop deals typically come with real good support plans, way better than you would get as a consumer often with no questions asked 2 day replacements, however when working from home i had no problem carrying a mid tower workstation to and from work.
At least some of your staff could work on laptops with docks on their stations so if they were remote working they would have to use their device. Building up infrastructure within a company to enable remote working is important, it isn't enough to simply allow remote working
In terms of the thin clients, you already have the hardware, you dont need thin clients. During COVID my university isolated every other PC in our labs for remote working. We used VMWare Horizon to remote on and it assigned you one of those machines to use. They didn't build servers because we didnt need them, the hardware was already there. Surely you can impliment something like that, where if someone is working from home they can literally just remote onto their work desktop. No thin clients, no laptops, but still the ability to work from home on work machines.
As a software engineer we use thin clients to connect to our workstations built for compiling and development, with optionally a workstation GPU if you need it. The downside? It's freaking citrix.
Often the manager demands they get the best spec computer even if they don’t need them. Just like they want to have their own parking space next to the entrance of the building to park their overpriced company paid BMW at.
I can speak with experience about using virtualization in a work environment. I work from home as a software developer. I get around 350mbps down and 23ish up at home. My box is a Ryzen 5 5600G with 16GB of ram and no dedicated graphics card. I have two Acer ultrawide monitors each running at 2560x1080. I use an RDP session to remote into a server at the office to work (around 60 miles away) and for the most part experience little to no noticeable lag. If the server's CPU is in heavy use, then things get laggy pretty fast, but otherwise it's smooth enough that I don't normally notice that I'm even working remotely. If I go into the office, where they deployed think clients, the experience is MUCH worse. Very laggy. It's bad enough that when I go into the office for work meetings now, I bring a laptop (Ryzen 5 5600h, 16GB) so I don't have to deal with the lag. The IT guys gave me a knowing nod when they saw my laptop sitting on the desk in front of the thin client lol. So if you go virtual, I'd suggest trying some real computers, but maybe cheaper hardware instead of thin clients.
I went to a "posh" school a few years ago and we used both Vmware Horizon for most staff and students, but then the media kids had baller pcs, along with the 3D design kids, the music tech dept had studios and teaching rooms with imacs. And even in the VMH environment you had basic vdis (you know word, so light browsing, etc), linux machines for Comp Sci and baller windows machines also for comp sci, and again even baller machines so that kids didn't have to work on the baller machines they could work remotely through a vdi baller machine. It was a mess. And the basic machines were slow, and vmware horizon would sometime freak if you had two monitors, then their was basic GPO problems with roaming. But the good thing was you could roam. If you disconnected (not logged out) a machine and then moved to another machine it would carry over. It reminded me of those Sun Ray Thin clients from the 00's.
Why not virtualize Windows like "7 gamers 1 PC" for every person who does not need a high-end workstation, while utilizing one of your "flipped PCs" with $800 motherboard, and other stuff, but with oozes of RAM and multiple SSDs with separate partitions for every user?
Dan leaving his camera in the exact same spot it was at when Linus switched inputs made me bust out laughing
What is the time code for this?
@@cameronblackmon9540 22:00 enjoy
What I laughed at is that this comment was cut off at "made me bust"
Like damn mate thats an extreme reaction
Also, having a 'Work Computer' and a 'Home Computer' is very good for focus.
I have a Study computer that is basic junker parts and my gaming PC. I built it cause I couldn't use my gaming PC cause I kept distracting myself with habits I have ingrained from using my gaming PC. Such as Social Media, Gaming, Watching films.
When I sit at my Study PC, I know it's time to study. I don't check social media. I don't check anything. I zero in on work.
Having a Work/Home separation via Desktop/Laptop can be a very good thing for productivity.
if you use windows you can just set up a new user for studying
If you use VDI you get the most separation which is a much better situation for security.
I am planning to build a gaming pc when i find room/time for it
My PC needs too much space to get a second one rn... And i work 16+ hours frequently
It really is. I recently setup my old Core 2 Quad machine specifically for getting stuff done, works pretty well, oh and I use a separate desk too.
The only downside to that machine is anything newer than Win7 just doesn't run well enough, but it doesn't really go online that much and stuff doesn't get downloaded so it should be fine at least until I get a newer machine to use for that sort of thing.
The sort of work I do with the machine is generally scripting, and some light photo editing.
Also yes I know running Windows 7 is a bad idea, but I have put some things in place to at least make it safer, such as using a supported web browser (firefox) and a non admin account.
Device segmentation is very helpful
I'd really be interested to know what list of hardware is like your "standard" for workstation PC's at LMG.
They have a stream of building them, but the main specs are a 3090(post stream upgrade) 128GB ram, 32 core strx4 Threadripper
And 40 Gb nics
@@mercuryrising9758 That's the old editing workstations; the new ones were in a video a while back. I'm pretty sure they're using 12th gen Intel for all specs, from accounting to editors, just different SKUs.
Edit: check out the "The Computer I Would Actually BUY" stream. Linus builds up one of their presumably dozens of workstations.
@@ctyoung0271 To be more precise as he mentioned in "The Computer I Would Actually BUY" it's
CPU: intel i5 12600k, engineering gets 12900k
Motherboard: Asus ProArt Z690-Creator WIFI
PSU: Seasonic Focus PX-850
GPU: Lean and flexible, Dan got a Quadro, editors get 3090s, Asus STRIX 3050 is used for the normal one. As well as bulk price selling.
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U14S though he mentions doing NH-D15 for 12900k to avoid undervolting.
Case: Antec Eclipse 500A
Memory: G Skill Trident 2x16 DDR5 5200, With Engineers and editors getting 2x32 DDR5
Storage:Crucial P5+ 1 TB drive(they are supposed to not store anything locally)
Keyboard and Mouse are still heavily customizable.
@@mercuryrising9758 You forgot to add local Admin as the main account.
Sometimes it's going to be more wasteful to take the risk with compromised stuff than it is to just destroy the affected item(s) due to the risk of it persisting somewhere unexpected. It depends on what you're dealing with, but malware nowadays can be extremely nasty and affect more than just the OS and external devices.
If you have any doubts or concerns about whether it can be fully disinfected, it should probably just be shredded or otherwise destroyed to prevent anyone else from being affected by the item in question.
You can't just chuck out everything that could possibly contain a virus, otherwise you have no system. But introducing a known-compromised device into the network to save the $25-50 it cost is very much not worth it
Also, the cost for a new drive is negligible for a company, especially when comparing it to the amount of work that goes into it. This exact drive probably costs like 30-40$, so what you're gonna do? Spent two hours, which already costs a lot more than the drive and risk still being infected? No.
I would like, stick it into the kid's console or something. I mean, how much harm can it do in a PS5?
@@Hellwalker855 iirc, it was a 250ish GB drive, which isn't very big. If the drive that was already in there is larger, it's a downgrade. Could be safe due to the platform change, but I wouldn't trust it
Yeah. I don't like perfectly good hardware being destroyed. But for security reasons you just don't have other option. The risk is not worth it. It would be sad, but I would do the exact same.
0:27 "Drive C: is fragmented. Scan now to fix it...."
Luke woke up that morning and chose violence.
I found it so funny when Linus tries to speak but Luke just continues talking 7:33
Those Asus workstation boards have some remote management features too that are pretty handy for organizations in addition to thunderbolt and 10 gig, so that might be why they got picked? Worth a few extra bucks if it saves many hours of a high paid IT person.
Some people straight up don't need those features, part of the reason its so absurd is that there are a not insignificant number of people who use word documents and browsers and not much else working at the company. Things like remoting in are pretty much unescessary for those kind of roles because you can store and easily access those filesthing on the expensive server they already operate. 10 gig networking is also basically useless for most tasks, most tasks outside of handling video don't need networking more than like 40 mb
i mean, you could do a video series about thin clients and how if at all that shit has gotten better over time.
as someone in a university that uses them, no. no it has not gotten better at all. the point of licences being easier to manage is a lie when it took 2 months for the clowns in the IT department to fix AutoCAD licences.
Call Wendel, he probably knows lol
@@baconwizard sounds like a bad IT department. Thin Clients when set up properly and maintained are pretty decent
@@baconwizard I'd avoid comparing education establishments to anything in the real world....Ever.
I.T. departments are almost always chronically under funded and school IT techies mostly have to bodge janky shit together with a wallet full of dust.
@@baconwizard IT in universities is seldom much better if at all then in schools, wouldn't take that as a measuring stick. Them needing 2 months to fix licensing issues is the best proof of that.
An idea from my company is we have dedicated machines plugged in at the office, and then VPN into them with our laptops. Helps a little with that air gap you're referring too, and gives me portability to work in the office, or at home with the full power at my disposal. It doesn't fully solve your problem, but could help with some ideas.
It's called a jump box. It's what we use to manage DC server, so our daily accounts /PC never touch critical parts of the IT.
@kmcat Remoting into jump boxes from your regular workstation is insecure, because if a keylogger is running on your computer you're remoting into your DCs and such from, it'll log your keystrokes when you remote into the DCs and enter credentials.
I recommend a fully dedicated, separate workstation that's locked down; these are called Privileged Access Workstations. :)
with standardisation... sometimes it's better to have 2 or 3 different options... maybe one for admin work, one for video editors, etc.
I remember at school they had remote desktop access set up for us to do work, that required certain software, from home. This was back in like 2006 - 2008 and I remember it worked pretty smoothly. Don't know if it might present usability issues though.
that's what I do for work we use cheap small for factor computers as clients to access tot he server and it works wonderfully for the lab I work at. this will theoretically be a great solution for LTT for almost anything that isn't editing or something that requires real power.
@@xxdalionxx at most, we used some Adobe programs like Dreamweaver, Flash, Fireworks and InDesign.
@@xxdalionxx Exactly, it is also much more economical splitting up servers than have stand alone machines.
Also there is an opportunity for much faster transfer speeds if the VDI server and storage server are located near each other.
Another problem with thin clients is being tethered to a wifi connection. Eg yesterday, I spent half the day working in a library with a limited internet connection because of life admin reasons, and I couldn't have done that if either a) tied to a desktop or b) using a thin client. If I hadn't had a laptop, I just would have had to take leave yesterday morning, or worked back many more hours because I couldn't have ducked into the local library before and after my dentist appt to keep working
The hidden moral of the story here is that public libraries are critical to modern society.
You guys need a CISO.... TL;DR: laptop + corporate vpn + corporate anti-virus + corporate firewall + no admin account + highly modified windows image... Managing all of this demands a help desk team + security team
As IT GRC analyst I love this conversation. This is exactly the type of dramma SME have to think all the time and how this conversation is super complex!
If you want a free tip deploy laptops to employees that don't need dedicated GPU or raw power and every 3/4 years change them. If you go for framework laptops the cost might be just an updated MoBo/RAM.
My workplace (supermarket) still uses software intended to run on Windows 98 and how slowly everything "chugs" along the hardware may be equally as old.
goddamn might as well put it through a shredder
This is fun because this entire segment is basically what my job is lol
As someone who is currently working on forcing my company to actually standardize our IT infrastructure, I feel this whole conversation in my bones. We’re a small company in personnel but a pretty big company in revenue and scope of work, so I’ve taken it upon myself (with my boss’s blessing) to spec and build all our machines so that we balance out the machine’s capabilities for the role it’s for and the cost, and making them easy to maintain should something break whilst I’m on vacation, and man, the sheer amount of money we were wasting on both overspec’d and underspec’d machines is truly staggering, as well as we were paying through the nose for those machines from the usual big name OEMs.
Why not burn down the whole building to be sure?
That's some "throwing the baby along with the bath-water" stuff.
He is breaking everything
12:14 Regarding laptop working. I've been using exclusively Dell Precision laptops for my work for the last 6 years now and they've been pretty solid. Every desk in the office has a Dell thunderbolt dock and most people have one for home as well.
It's my workplace standard dev spec laptop and it's pretty standard, 32GB Memory, i7-11850H. My previous one was similarly gen equivalent specced and also had touch screen & a Quattro.
Honestly, for work I can't imagine going back to using a desktop anymore.
My only issue is trying to find a duel display port KVM switch that doesn't cost the moon for home use.
We use the exact same setup for dev work and I couldn't imagine going to desktop.
15:30 as someone who works in a hospital to wait 3-5 min till the system has bootet while you sit there with the knowledge you have 80 billion other things to do because of Staff shortage is frustrating and generates unnecessary stress
For low spec it's hard to imagine a better solution than a mini PC mounted to the back of the monitor with the VESA mount. They're cheap small and quiet, can take 1 or 2 M.2's, a 2.5" HDD, up to 64GB of RAM but 32GB makes more sense, and can have 2.5G NICs, and typically can use up to 4 displays.
You could setup a small vdi environment with one of those standard setups for testing.
The place I work has exactly the opposite workstations specs that you guys use. We use single core 2004 computers to run windows 7 and dual cores from 2006 to run important applications and they run extremely poorly, reducing productivity, but the owners of the company think they are saving a lot of money using super old under specd computers.
Unfortunately this is the mentality. Cutting costs is good if it’s not necessary but saving $40 to lose out on $200 is stupid as a business.
Reminds me of how my dad is always sent shitty laptops for work when they pay him $100ish per hour.
Keep in mind while he does business stuff it’s like only half his job and for efficiency it’s not like he closes his programming client.
His job is super technical. It’s essentially monitoring and fixing code written by outsourced Indian workers and managing that team and malting sure work gets done and done well and explaining the issues and stuff to the purely business department that couldn’t understand a single line of code - no judgment I’m into finance so neither would I.
It’s also the same bs with the outsourced Indian workers. Despite what it may seem their not cheap the total costs are around $55 per hour for the Indian programmers when all expenses are accounted for and instead of spending like $800 on decent mini pcs they spend $500 on shitty laptops and the Indian workers can’t do real work not that they care much but it’s a bottleneck that’s not necessary.
Unfortunately things do get inefficient just as they get bigger but that’s just something we accept since economies of scale far outweighs them.
A video on the process of disinfecting a bios/uefi from an infection would be nice to have. I've tried running the installer to overwrite the old image but since the version is the same as the installer, it just cancels pending image instal after restarting to do it. So that would be helpful to know how to do that.
Luke: I DON'T NEED THIS
A man of integrity. I respect him
17:07 you can use a VDI for something like an ansys simulation..... Most of the licenses for engineering software are "floating licenses" so your company will have, for example, 5 licenses that are floating but 9 engineers who need access to the program meaning that only 5 people at a time would have access to it. There is a program called OpenLM to help in this and that program will suspend any floating license program.
Thats why the microcontroller based m.2 formatter/cloner thingi is the best. No partition read, just bit by bit operations.
I got the impression that they think thin client always equals shared desktop. You could also do thin clients with dedicated VDI's. So at my last company, they had a Citrix VDI environment and there were two types of VDIs. There were shared VDIs which used a roaming profile where you had access to a browser or could launch a shared XenApp, but it was a shared windows server on the backend. They also had dedicated VDI's where a user had persistent storage and installed applications. And it was literally just a Windows 7 VM (and later 10) that was just for an individual user. They also supported 2FA login and the nice thing about that was I could just use the Citrix Workspace app on my personal machine without having to enroll in any MDM type stuff.
They were laughing but this has all the markings of a public fight with your spouse where you're not trying to draw too much attention to it.
thin client's can work if properly implemented. Cisco has a good implementation. You would need a dedicated tech though.
There's still noticeable latency when using it over a WAN connection. It drove me absolutely insane the couple months I worked with a thin client.
OKTA and SSO basically solves session hijacks by expiring session tokens every time the browser is closed or at specific time frames.
I wasn't even surprised when saw the thumb, i once hammered my GPU for very specific reasons
For regular work flow, ie spread sheets, emails, and cloud things, we limit those to the network. Anyone working remotely has to vpn and RDP to their desktop.
My company has struggling desktops and I am begrudgingly speccing out rtx A series cards (Solidworks). I toyed around with speccing a virtual environment and running thin clients instead.
I would love to see a video on 'thin clients in 2023' especially from a management & cost perspective
If you have concerns about the motherboard being infected then you should use an external bios programmer.
Watching this, makes me remember that nobody at LTT is actually a trained IT professional!
What do you mean by “trained”? Like going to College? As an IT pro for more than 10 years. College does not prepare one for reality in IT. Certs can help but even then most will forget what they studied for, if you don’t do it for a long time after certification. Linus and his tech enthusiasts are leaning on the job and continuously maintaining a real business It infrastructure. They know more how actual businesses IT infrastructure works than any professor at college will. All professors do is parrot theory and examples from the overly expensive college textbooks and media.
@@JasonB808 hello from Australia! I'm aware lol, Uni/college is great for general theory, but spend your hard earned on something from Comptia.
I'm an ICT Service Manager in a regional MSP. When I refer to training I mean actual training, real world hands on experience and mentoring from other IT Pro's.
Some of the mistakes they've made over the years were easily avoided, things like centralised policy management, role based access control, even something as simple as the 3-2-1 backup rule. This is all staff we train our junior L1 helpdesk staff.
@@PALADIN867 Also from Australia. I'm an IT Technician for a public institution. At a bare minimum we have a TAFE Certificate 3 or 4 and all of that stuff was taught to us via these courses. Plus most of my peers and myself started via paid work based traineeship.
The fact that LTT doesn't have a sys admin is mindboggling to me.
Yeah, it amazes me they buy a $600 board for EVERYONE when they could buy $600 Dell/HP and standardise that way. Beasts for editors makes sense but everyone else can get an optiplex i5 with 16gb 🤷🏻♂️
13:40 - just use virtual machines for work purposes or terminal server, where company policies could be engaged. it's not something new through
I love Luke's laugh. I don't know why, but it feels genuine.
I have a "business PC" I built that ONLY gets turned on to online shop, do online banking and read email, then it gets powered down. It's got an 8th Gen Pentium and an m.2 SSD. It's the perfect Facebook box that will never be contaminated by Facebook.
This is why my small company hired out IT to handle machine, server, AWS, etc setup. We don't like them for the AWS stuff anymore due to client timing needs, but for machine management and internal server resources they're fine.
Thin clients...might actually be good on a LAN. I'm pretty sure every instance of a thin client I've used was connecting over WAN and that was _actually_ terrible for obvious reasons.
it's even worse over australian internet...
Talking about VDI, the company that I work for uses mainly non persistant VDI for all its call agents (we do have some persistant) and anyone accessing the secure portions of the network. (being a unix admin, most of my work is done on one of those machines). The only complaint that I have is that they cheeped out and each VM has a very limited amount of recources (2 cores and 4 or 6 GB of ram) and as a result run slow. However I know that they can run way better as I use a VM at home for all my home infrastrture work.
Now i want to get a full technical analysis of that malware.
LMG should consider having a standardised work laptop option. You have a work PC, but also a somewhat locked down laptop to access work stuff outside company premises. Along with vpn to connect all work devices, so folks can access remotely their work PCs.
Wrote to you folks repeatedly about a way to do highly available data storage and got absolutely ghosted :)
Glad to hear you're finally hearing what HA is.
You could have multiple standards for the workstations. You could have the majority using docked company laptops or thin clients. The video editors and engineers can remote into rack mounted workstations. Just wondering what exactly is a thin client I'm just someone who has learned about tech almost exclusively through TH-cam and being on a robotics team.
A thin client is just a small computer that can't do much on its own (typically running some embedded os) but is used to remote access a server. They're typically about the size of an apple TV or similar device. They're cheap and, depending on the workplace, are an easy substitute for having dedicated workstations for every employee.
I’d really like to see what an attempt at doing thin clients at LMG would entail. It’s clearly not for everyone, but given that you have 10G networking etc. how feasible is it at your scale? What are the major pain points. What kind of infrastructure is required. Can it be done with Proxmox, do you need some pricey VMWare solution etc.
If you keep the VDI server and storage server in the same location, you will get the fastest possible transfer speeds while not saturating the local network. Therefore thin clients and laptops don't need 10G networking LMG is paying extra for.
It is a much better option for scalability and especially security. If they are really serious they can have a backup server hosted externally for essentially bulletproof downtime management (assuming it is all configured correctly).
It also allows more flexable working arrangements, which I personally think benefits both employees and employers (conserving office space + business continuity).
My company has engineering laptops, recently everyone upgraded to Dell Precision machines. Absolutely bonkers how fast they are. They're nice because I have the flexibility to WFH if I want/need to. We use VPNs to access work programs/CAD licenses at home, and then that machine is always work, no personal computer casually clicking sketchy links.
Ida nuked it and sold it on eBay “the drive that brought down Linus Tech Tips”
Had a massive project in which we built the physical infrastructure for a fictional company and heavily relied on dell thin clients for a massive price drop off traditional OptiPlex desktops and with the RDP based Dell Thin OS, which I assume all manufacturers have, thin clients seemed provide mostly benefits. No clue on how that worked out in the past however.
You should instead ask AV companies around, maybe one of them would analyze what was there, add detection, tell you if it could infect bios etc. And you could make video about what to do after you get infected. But smashing things also works.
The pc security channel took a look at the malware that hacked them on his channel and the malware is detected by AVs but the file is overbloated with empty data known as padding which causes AVs to skip the file in order to speed up scanning as the empty data makes it think that the file is an audio or video file. In his video he removed rhe empty data then uploaded it to one of the many online scanners and it immediately identified what it was, after the empty data was removed.
better title: "Luke Smashed the Infected SSD"
I’d say VDI only if employees work from home if they don’t have a dedicated work machine that is properly secured according to the company’s security policy
A lot of NVME SSD's have completely unlocked firmware which can be infected. This can reroot your hard drive even after a complete format of it.
If I could edit video I'd cut Luke smashing the drive with the power rangers opening theme where rita pops out and says "after 10 thousand years I'm free"
It's weird for me to hear you say the editors can't go virtual because their requirements are too high. My experience as a software dev is that I do everything in a remote session precisely because my requirements are too high to work locally.
I'm building my first machine rn and I can barely afford the $200 board I chose. All I can say is it hurts to hear about $600-800 boards being used, or rather "not" used, in generic office machines lol
Well I see why and I’m sorry if it’s any consolation my computers broken and I legit need a computer and the one I want is $530 and I want a $50 1tb sata ssd once I get it since it comes with only 512gb. Keep in mind for me a computer is purely a tool I couldn’t care less as long as it works fast that’s all I ask and I’m not super demanding just my computer is a budget gaming laptop from 2017 so it’s lived a good life.
If it’s any consolation at least lmg workers get to use good equipment.
Although if they could spend that money on better worker pay that would be nice seeing as they seem to both underpay their employees and break the law by not allowing employees to discuss salaries. To get ahead of what might be said whatever one’s views are 1)it’s literally law that salaries must be allowed to be discussed at work 2) rules that are illegal prevent people from getting to take advantage of the law if they want to since most assume a company especially one like lmk isn’t breaking the law and 3) it’s been shown companies that don’t allow this behavior pay lower and have large pay discrepancies that are arbitrary not based on position or seniority with the company/experience.
VDI actually HAS come a long way. We use Azure Virtual Desktops for a lot of our fully remote folks; you can easily replace that with something VMW Horizon.
VM's on thin clients are getting pretty good these days. They still take a bit of time to spin up depending on your resources, but latency is definitely not as unbearable.
You also have the flexibility of allocating different resources depending on the job position. Security is a huge win as well keeping everything containerized.
Plus you can make a video series out of it which will pay for all of the hardware.
You guys might be able to replace some of your standardized workstations with framework laptops. That would allow you to keep the serviceability and standardization while also allowing for portability and flexibility.
whats scary is my work laptop at AMAZON was allowed to upgrade to windows 11 on day 1 with no authorization
Laptops work really well, as somebody who's been mostly WFH off of a Macbook Pro supplied by work. I then have my Framework for personal computing. That air gap can easily be maintained just by not allowing personal apps on work-provided laptop. Maybe once the Framework 16s come out with their GPUs, they'd be a good option for LMG, given the repairability of the machines making IT provisioning and maintenance easier?
I work at one of the major power tools company as a design engineer and here, at least from what I can observe, 95% of people have a laptop. Doesn't matter if they are doing light office work or CAD simulation, everyone works on laptops, it's just so much more convenient. You have to visit a customer 7000km away for whatever reason? You'll take your laptop with you and just work from there.
It's actually awesome, but man, these High-End workstation laptops are still MASSIVE in 2023 xD
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Smashing it is very wasteful. The Linux command " dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/your_ssd status=progress " should fully wipe it.
For the malware to persist, it has to overwrite the controller firmware on the SSD as well with something that makes their malware persist, which is also incredibly difficult to craft. Most SSDs verify firmware updates with cryptographic signatures before updating.
I would do some research on the specific SSD before grabbing the hammer.
We have work laptop so we don't read any work related mails from home computer etc. For remote work I just use docking station and my home setup monitors.
Laptops are what bigger companies uses because on site you usually have few meeting in different rooms. So laptop is almost mandatory or mandatory if you need present something.
I think you needed to have special case to get desktop computer but you still also have laptop.
Please do a video on permanently blocking Windows 11.
I agree this would be a good video to do, but in the meantime why not just Google how to do it? It's pretty easy
With regards to VDI's, I had to use a VDI for a significant amount of time at one job at the beginning of COVID, specifically CITRIX - was not a good experience. ~10 minute boot times, having to troubleshoot issues with it weekly, etc.
Do you mean shitrix? Would rather just use teamviewer or parsec
Why not have a standard setup for workstations and a standard setup for business. You could even have 3 levels for in between use cases. You’d have your standardizations but also not overbuilding to the extreme degree.
why not go for one of those Ryzen 5000G mini PC's, i mean there a lot of models that would fit your needs as a thin client.
I can't wait to see these LTT video.
- How to defrag your SSD.
- How to get rid of computer malware.
- How to frag your ssd
Knowing exactly what hardware you are using allows for really nasty stuff when it comes for targeted attacks.
Realistically from a tech support standpoint the whole implementation is quite simple.
So long as they have an active directory system or a managed to use a system you can set up a dedicated rd gateway server and multiple RDS virtual boxes for your different departments whether or not they use a minimal hardware PC or a thin client you can have it all domain connected. Then have three physical PC tears one being the highest here or something like your video editors a medium T4 graphic designers and load here for the script writers they're all connected to the same domain network it requires minimal efforts and if one thing client dies or low spec system dies they can still connect onto the domain wants the thin client RPC is replaced and domain connected if you keep everything server linked for your specific RDS users ie using roaming profiles it's fairly straightforward to configure
Everyone gets NUCs/BeLinks and plug in and out the 2 1/2" SSD for work with partitions, security, etc.
At my workplace you get the machine you can justify, if you are doing heavy EM simulation you might need two of the highest end GPUs money can buy every generation while people who only use browsers get the shitty dell towers from 2017
IT does not care as the points of failure are more or less the same across the line ... drives or ram, if a CPU dies (as far as i can remember its happened only a few times) you special order one in and swap out the mainboard with whatever you have laying around or give them a spare machine.
Shy of a company with 10,000+ machines i don't see a real benefit in only a couple dedicated tiers of machine performance. Give a department the tier of machines they need over the next X years and keep a couple spares of each tier on hand.
Also on the subject of laptops, corporate laptop deals typically come with real good support plans, way better than you would get as a consumer often with no questions asked 2 day replacements, however when working from home i had no problem carrying a mid tower workstation to and from work.
9:28 good you are admitting it.
At least some of your staff could work on laptops with docks on their stations so if they were remote working they would have to use their device. Building up infrastructure within a company to enable remote working is important, it isn't enough to simply allow remote working
Using an online/web workspace (Like citrix) at home helps to seperate private and work related stuff.
Didn’t antiviruses used to run checks on the bios, do they not do this now?
In terms of the thin clients, you already have the hardware, you dont need thin clients.
During COVID my university isolated every other PC in our labs for remote working. We used VMWare Horizon to remote on and it assigned you one of those machines to use. They didn't build servers because we didnt need them, the hardware was already there.
Surely you can impliment something like that, where if someone is working from home they can literally just remote onto their work desktop. No thin clients, no laptops, but still the ability to work from home on work machines.
As a software engineer we use thin clients to connect to our workstations built for compiling and development, with optionally a workstation GPU if you need it.
The downside? It's freaking citrix.
These are all teething issues for a medium sized business, and solution for all these exits.
Often the manager demands they get the best spec computer even if they don’t need them. Just like they want to have their own parking space next to the entrance of the building to park their overpriced company paid BMW at.
I can speak with experience about using virtualization in a work environment. I work from home as a software developer. I get around 350mbps down and 23ish up at home. My box is a Ryzen 5 5600G with 16GB of ram and no dedicated graphics card. I have two Acer ultrawide monitors each running at 2560x1080. I use an RDP session to remote into a server at the office to work (around 60 miles away) and for the most part experience little to no noticeable lag. If the server's CPU is in heavy use, then things get laggy pretty fast, but otherwise it's smooth enough that I don't normally notice that I'm even working remotely. If I go into the office, where they deployed think clients, the experience is MUCH worse. Very laggy. It's bad enough that when I go into the office for work meetings now, I bring a laptop (Ryzen 5 5600h, 16GB) so I don't have to deal with the lag. The IT guys gave me a knowing nod when they saw my laptop sitting on the desk in front of the thin client lol. So if you go virtual, I'd suggest trying some real computers, but maybe cheaper hardware instead of thin clients.
I went to a "posh" school a few years ago and we used both Vmware Horizon for most staff and students, but then the media kids had baller pcs, along with the 3D design kids, the music tech dept had studios and teaching rooms with imacs. And even in the VMH environment you had basic vdis (you know word, so light browsing, etc), linux machines for Comp Sci and baller windows machines also for comp sci, and again even baller machines so that kids didn't have to work on the baller machines they could work remotely through a vdi baller machine. It was a mess. And the basic machines were slow, and vmware horizon would sometime freak if you had two monitors, then their was basic GPO problems with roaming.
But the good thing was you could roam. If you disconnected (not logged out) a machine and then moved to another machine it would carry over. It reminded me of those Sun Ray Thin clients from the 00's.
My work (coding) uses virtual desktops and let me tell you, it's pretty okay for coding but I would not want to edit video on one.
its come a long way from experience with clients in my school take sub 1 minute to boot
Does browser session hijacking work "across separate browser profiles"?
Make sure luke doesnt have a "hook of hamate" fracture
Dell and HP mini pcs [exists]
Linus: 800$ motherboard for Google docs please.
Why not virtualize Windows like "7 gamers 1 PC" for every person who does not need a high-end workstation, while utilizing one of your "flipped PCs" with $800 motherboard, and other stuff, but with oozes of RAM and multiple SSDs with separate partitions for every user?
how does a tech based channel not have a sysadmin when your company is that large?
Give everyone a comms laptop then the people who need it a desktop for power tasks.
while Formatting might have worked, i feel the catharsis of smashing the MFer is far more worth it
i think the thin client research and such could make a great series of videos..
Has the short been posted yet? Which channel?
Give the ssd to drive savers, see if they can recover it 😂