NIO ES8 & 3-minute Battery Swap Station | FULLY CHARGED for Clean Energy & Electric Vehicles
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How would you feel about an electric car which you could charge from 0-100% in 3 minutes at a cost of around £8? Sounds too good to be true? Let us introduce you to the NIO ES8.
This SUV might be big, but it's also agile, and while its price tag reflects the refined design and impressive range, what's really interesting is the battery swapping service offered to all new NIO customers, as standard. In this episode Elliot takes the ES8 out for a drive and shows the 3-minute Battery Swap Station in action. For easy reference, please use the Timestamps below...
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Timestamps
0:00 Introduction to NIO & Battery Swapping
0:51 NIO - Blue Sky Coming
1:39 NIO ES8 price & statistics
2:55 Nice Action!
3:05 Boot/Trunk Size & 7-seats
3:26 Luxurious Interior, Innovative Instrumentation
4:32 First Drive Impressions
6:17 Battery Swap Station in action
6:50 Battery Swap Starts
7:00 Explanation of Battery Swap
8:03 Cost of Battery Swap
9:50 Battery Swap Finishes
10:02 NIO Power Remote Charging
11:01 Summary on NIO, ES8, Battery Swap etc
11:30 If you liked this, then you'll love these...
12:00 Subscribe & Support
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LIKE if you think Battery Swapping could be the future and SHARE if you want more people to know about its potential. Full description below...
How would you feel about an electric car which you could charge from 0-100% in 3 minutes at a cost of around £8? Sounds too good to be true? Let us introduce you to the NIO ES8.
This SUV might be big, but it's also agile, and while its price tag reflects the refined design and impressive range, what's really interesting is the battery swapping service offered to all new NIO customers, as standard. In this episode Elliot takes the ES8 out for a drive and shows the 3-minute Battery Swap Station in action. For easy reference, please use the *Timestamps* below...
If you enjoyed this, check out Elliots report from the Chengdu Motor Show earlier this week - www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCNjD...
And for more on why we are covering what is going on in East Asia, and more specifically in China, please read our latest blog: 'Cancel Culture & Chinese Cars' - fullycharged.show/blog/cancel...
Fully Charged is 100% independent thanks to TH-cam Memberships (join above) and Patreons (join via www.patreon.com/FullyChargedShow).
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*Timestamps*
0:00 Introduction to NIO & Battery Swapping
0:51 NIO - Blue Sky Coming
1:39 NIO ES8 price & statistics
2:55 Nice Action!
3:05 Boot/Trunk Size & 7-seats
3:26 Luxurious Interior, Innovative Instrumentation
4:32 First Drive Impressions
6:17 Battery Swap Station in action
6:50 Battery Swap Starts
7:00 Explanation of Battery Swap
8:03 Cost of Battery Swap
9:50 Battery Swap Finishes
10:02 NIO Power Remote Charging
11:01 Summary on NIO, ES8, Battery Swap etc
11:30 If you liked this, then you'll love these...
12:00 Subscribe & Support
The swap did not take 3 minutes. You had to drive for an hour until one was full! One hour 3 minutes. Stop fake news.
It's enormously expensive to develop the system of battery swapping stations and buying the extra batteries - Does anyone remember 'Better Place' inc? 10 years ago- an American/Israeli battery swapping company who worked with Renault and implemented this system ago in Denmark, Israel, and Australia. Sadly, they ran out of money. I remember them raising over $220Million in one round of capital investment - they may have raised even more in total!
What's going to be different with NIO ?
1) They build their own cars, and perhaps aren't reliant on another car company joining them in the battery swapping scheme. (Better Place was really hoping Toyota would join Renault/Nissan)
2) They will be financed by Chinese banks & the government with cheap loans (illegal in the Europe & US) with effectively unlimited funds.
Good luck to them. It's a great idea and it's been around since the dawn of EVs.
Did you know, or have you forgotten, that this was tried in Denmark (Israel and elsewhere) some years ago, under the aegis of the Better Place network? The car involved was the Renault Fluence Z.E., and the batteries for used vehicles are still available for rental from Renault dealers. While the NIO concept may fare better than Shai Agassi's concept, viewers may not consider the Chinese concept as so advanced and interesting, compared with Tesla's widespread charging networks.
@@mtnvalley9298 Couldn't agree more!
People are not in the mood for China taking over the world right now.
Who else is here, to see what exactly they're investing in?
indeed LOL and I love it so far!
bruh
You know, you’ll likely lose less money when you educate yourself BEFORE you put your cash into the ether lol
And NIU too....
LOL
That is what happens when you underestimate the competition. They move forward living you behind. Happened before with the Japanese in the 70s and 80s. History repeats itself.
Such an innovative and well-built SUV, I'll order one when they're available in EU. Love it
nio will come to eu in 2021。
boy ive got big news for you :D
how is europe with infrastructure to build battery swap stations? it looks difficult to scale since especially with other EV in the market that dont have this feature. it maybe unwise to build a charging station that only can accommodate 1 brand of EV vs all EV. imo battery swap is a must for people to fully adopt the concept of an EV
@@lalalamooone In short: Shitty. Long answer: Where I live (in Austria for reference) the necessary EV infrastructure isn't really given. Yea, we've got (quite a lot of) "public" charging stations, but for example only 19 Tesla Superchargers, whereas Norway got around 848. Electricity is fairly expensive compared to Norway, 16 cents there and 32 cents here (according to tesla average), so you'd pay double for a full charge here. I also think that building Battery Swap Stations would be incredibly difficult here, not only because of regulations but because the people wouldn't support it I guess. BaaS is far, far away here, and the whole EV thing is different from country to country. But- and i want to clarify that - EVs are getting more and more popular every year, so we are going in the right direction.
They will never pass the ADAC crash test..... or will not be allowed to pass...
This is really cool for quick refills. Thanks for sharing! It's a nice looking vehicle.
Battery swapping is actually impressive.
Why? 😩😷
@@AwesomeBlackDude think about the engineering
@A N Other in my opinion it's as practical as 150kw DC charging
Primarily because it is Black Box. That's all we need. To get away from the evil that both internal combustion and the fossil fuel industry's best friends electrification represent.
KISS - Keep It Simple, Stupid! Simply drill a deep hole into the desert or seabed, suck out the dinosaur juice, blast it with energy to filter out the crap, put it on a boat, ship it around the world, squirt it into lorries, drive the lorry to a forecourt, fill up a big subterranean bath with it, put a pump on top - Bob's your uncle! What could be simpler?!
Great video. We just passed the national standard of Swapping Battery, GB/T《电动汽车换电安全要求》. Type-I: 1500 swaps for personal cars, Type-II: 3000 times, and Type-III: 5000 for commercial vehicles. Life spam min. 1500 for bolt-type, 5000 for snap-type in 8-10 years, up to 600k km.
This is a no brainer and something I've been saying for a decade! I'm in the US. Unless you're going to build a charging network with enough stations and capacity (charging stations are often full), you need to be able to swap batteries. This is just good engineering. Wish I know about Nio last year when the stock was low (my buddy did, though he didn't even know what they made).
Really cool to see this. Great move by the channel to start this coverage!
Very impressive tech and a great car. Well done Fully Charged & good job Elliot⚡
A perfect demonstration of the impracticality of battery swapping for private cars.
This is one manufacturer. For general use you'd need a battery swap station with an enormous stock of different batteries. "But we'll just get manufacturers to use the same batteries" I hear you cry!
We can't even get them to agree how many wheel bolts to use, let alone the same PCD, so getting them to share a major component, around which the whole structure of the vehicle has to be designed, is just a fantasy.
More niche applications, yes! Taxis, fleet vans and trucks, trains even, ideal!
how is it different from Tesla's proprietary supercharger
its a matter of creating a standard. when one that look promising and not much limitations it will exist. something like micro usb, road signs, electricity voltage and many other things. eventually we will get there, until then, each alternative its a nich on itself until we start using them all and figure the best option through experience and not theory
Agreed. The charging stations aren't even uniform in how they are utilised i.e card, fob, app etc. I do think things need simplifying and making the whole thing uniformed. I am currently exploring the different charging stations on my channel.
I think a standard could be developed if it had support from different governments, though getting that could be difficult. There are some standards for cars though. Schrader valves used to inflate car tyres is one thing that springs to mind.
You definitely could do a battery swap standard in 10 or 20 years when the batteries could be much smaller but then the cars will probably do 500 miles per charge so why bother anyway if you can supercharge 2/300 kw as well
I just bought new batteries for my impact gun, like new again. Swapping is the way to go!
Nice video and thank you Elliot for putting all the efforts. The battery swap is a tech which suitable for a mega city like Shanghai because not everyone in Shanghai owns a parking lot. This is a great idea to encourage people to try and buy EVs. Some of the comments are too negative and please be open minded.
Great video! I couldn't help but smile about it. Very well put togheter
Excellent review. Looking forward to Nio coming this way
It's great if this was available in the west most people would buy straight away,
I think.
This is awesome . Battery swapping, what a concept. Very forward looking
This shows that having access tp a large unified domestic market enables you to make cool products. India is also busy with electric cars now. It's time that the West stops staring at what Tesla is doing and makes it easier to start develop new electric powered products (especially Europe). Great video!
"The West" was "staring at Tesla" because without them, there would be zero EV's in "the West"
@@rogerstarkey5390 True, but the established car companies had 8 years to come up with a decent answer to Tesla. But as this video and other videos from fully charged shows, the best answers are coming from China and even surpassing Tesla.
India 😂🤣
@@dr.andersonsghost4315 Actually India produces a lot of vehicles. Brands like Maruti, Tata and Mahindra are manufacturing EV or will soon. Let's not forget that India also has a huge domesticl market. Also Indian brands have been exporting vehicles for quite a number of years now, wether under their own brand name or as OEM.
@@richardnedbalek1968 I guess it's by far the Tesla 3. Which shows that the traditional car companies are lagging behind. Besides that, which other car company, besides Tesla, can compete with the onslaught of the Chinese? We are talking about huge traditional cars companies here who, although they have some EV models, don't have anything which can compete with even start ups from 5 years ago.
BAAS - battery as a service is now a China national infrastructure strategy. and Nio has already set the standard.
China and Arabia will be developing technology like we used to do and it's been reported in the New York Times even that the uranium in the ocean can replace the Black Gold. I have nominated freely available nitrogen as the energy carrier for the rest of this Millennia and Beyond. You take the uranium from where you can get it or wherever you get your good energy and you converted into liquefied gas like nitrogen. That boy was using again I know that people see the word free and they don't trust but the air around us is currently not expensive to use and there is no tax on using it. Same goes for the ocean water. Rightly or wrongly anybody that can get the water into their building can take all the uranium from it they want without paying anybody. You can also use the rhenium appropriately that means you don't waste it on electricity which is very expensive to produce and rather useless for everything that matters but almost all of our energy is actually used for hello?
So electricity is good for simulating. But it's time for us to get serious and immediately replace the burning of all fossil fuels. You do that by boiling nitrogen instead. you can fill up a car faster than you can change the battery and it also has far more power then stupid expensive electric motors with Russ belts all over the world having the buildings the tooling and the unemployed eager to work making turbines to do mechanical work without any negative externalities from all kinds of clean renewable energy sources turned into the commodity of energy itself as exemplified by liquefied nitrogen.
Irene How do you get energy out of liquid nitrogen? You need to input energy to liquify and to boil it.
@@Irene-fu6gj Has this been written by an AI? This is complete bullshit! Please take your pills again.
@@Dirk_Taggesell YES NYT NEWTON ETC ALL fake news right Bud? Just because your ignorant your not allowed to deny truth by feeble character attacking. Which fact is outside comfort zone Kevin?
@Ian Reid clicking on your profile Mister Reid it shows the beginning of what was the lamest comment in this entire collection where you said that it was not a 3-minute process hello when you go to the haircut place and you have to make an appointment for like tomorrow you call that a 24-hour long haircut?
Who here has NIO stock?
me
Me
Me
I got in back in March.
I put £100 on NIO a few months back and totally forgot about it (as it's in my non-isa account which I don't look at) I checked the other day and saw it was up to £380!
Great Idea put into action, these SUVs are efficient - put 7 people in it and it works well as a people mover for larger families. Love the Battery swap system.
keep going NIO.
It's all about economy of scale, the larger the scale, the more convenient it will be. some viewers complained that different EV makers needs different swap stations, but it's not inconceivable for EV makers to form into an battery alliance, that will narrow the need for different system dramatically,
Even if they don't, so what, these are pretty small, and you can fit a dozen different brands of battery swap stations into a parking lot.
One way to move forward is to automate the entire process, making it easy enough for the owners themselves to drive it into place and press a button to swap the battery.
EVs will be more and more like a consumer product, the idea of having a yearly subscription for battery swap services and not actually own the battery is the way to go.
Even if EV makers don't form a battery swap alliance, it is conceivable that the likes of VAG, who own VW, Audi, Porsche, Seat, Skoda plus trucks and exotics could create a universal standard for their range. For example they could create a battery cell of nominal size 1. A Seat Ibiza could fit 3 cells in line under the floor, a Passat could fit 5 and a Scania could fit 10 stacked like pancakes.
it's just a game of capital, they play the old trick of start ups that burn cash at an unsustainable rate to capture market share and then either go flop or start charging the users
On a bigger scale when a lot if people have electric cars, I think this is not durable. I think that in the next decades they will mainly focus on charging the battery faster. But I like the concept and it definitely has potential.
The cars could be sold without batteries and you just swap out batteries on a regular basis. The older batteries could then be used for home power banks and cars can be refitted with new batteries as technology improves.
@@davidlazarus67 which might well be appealing, given much of the cost of an EV is batteries.
Good to see this in operation and the benefits/pitfalls. Good video Elliot
Wow! battery swap.....coool! No more waiting for yours to charge...brilliant!
I love Nomi. It is very cute and friendly. The manner is so relaxing and smart as well. 😍
The hats she wears are the best
@@reginald7214 yes. Exactly. In a long way of travel Nomi will efficient help a driver. 🥰
This needs to come to the uk
God, I hope not !
Interesting concept. Thanks for highlighting how other countries are working on their infrastructure
A "NIO" Generation Is Coming⚡⚡
Thank you for doing the nio es8 it’s a very innovative vehicle and they’re growing fast soon to be in Germany/uk
How many battery swap stations are in UK/Germany? They are a long way off
@@mofojohnson1 I think there only in China atm
@@AI4PrezLaughs they'll never make it to the UK
@@mofojohnson1 I don't think they will either, most impressive thing about nio is the battery swap which can be copied/stolen ,and if the charging capability continues to improve we won't need battery swap...car companies arnt stupid ..I work for a large car company and the electric cars are coming dont think these guys will rule the ev market
This idea has been around for 20+ years. Nice to see someone actually using it.
any source of information?
The propane tank model!
Nio is a solid company with great cars. My neighbour and his wife both have one each. By the way their cars are so many on the roads I'm sure they're going to get even bigger. They also have a formula E team if I'm not mistaken.
nice to hear, what city do you live in?
@@obsidianstatue My home is in Qinzhou. But at the moment I'm living in Nanning.
@sask1930 well, honestly many car startups are always on the verge of bankruptcy. But with the boom of EVs in China plus the subsidies they're getting I think they'll be ok for a while.
@sask1930 It should be pointed out that Tesla was on the verge of bankruptcy for many years before their finances stabilise and they started producing profitable quarters.
@sask1930 NO This is Not Faraday Future.
Thanks for providing a great hands-on video, discussing the reality of ownership. Followed!
Wow, very awesome :D I must keep an eye out for them. I'm sure I recognise that logo.
Such an amazing car nio really is going to be huge
Could you do another video on the car itself? The main reason, I'm aware, was to demonstrate the battery swapping, but I'm sure a lot of people like myself would be interested in the rest of the car. How much space is in the rear seats as an example, how much luggage space is there with all seats folded? Etc.
Agreed, more on the car would be great.
I thought the same; "fold the back row seats down and you get more room..." - right, but no view shown of this at all, or the middle-row or front passenger seat area either (and the bit with hand going under the middle console is lost out of frame). More thought on camera angles and internal views would be appreciated! But otherwise an interesting video on the battery swap-out feature. Like others have noted, not sure it is a hugely scalable approach, but has interesting capabilities for battery tech upgrades (solid state/glass, whatever the future holds).
Yep, I was just about to say the same.
Try looking on China Driver channel - Not sure if it has the answers to your questions
just like he said in the beginning of the video, he already review this car on his own channel, i believe it's called "China Driver"
Wow another fantastic vid very well done.
This was a great review. Thank you for sharing.
We have been changing batteries in our electric forklifts for the last 30 years
I guess that the security/safety standards that have to be fulfilled in case of a crash are not the same which makes car battery swaping more complex
That’s just it! The idea isn’t new! It’s simple and genius! Especially when it’s all automated
And they're still not at 100%!?!?
....cool, and totally comparable to everyday car use....😑
@@EHCordes it's amazing with all the people who talk about 20 years into Tesla nonsense I have yet to see anybody pointing out the Tesla engineer's their batteries to do this as well. I understand that was a 'different' company THEN the current predatory world-destroying monster. But it had the same name and many of the same people behind it including the founder. The moral hazard of him collecting additional billions of dollars is not hypothetical. If you don't have that money corrupting he would probably --if you want to give him any credit whatsoever-- have shut Tesla down many many months ago.
Loving these BEV reviews from China. The quality in this NIO ES8 is stunning.
Thanks for this video. We all need to see more of different approaches taken in ev development. No industry should stand still or close themselves off to new ideas.
I was frustrated with your demonstration of the boot space. After explaining how limited it was due to the extra seating, you then told us we just have to fold those seats down to get "much more". You did the fold down, put your arm out as to say 'ta-daaa', but the next camera shot was from inside the front seat. Wtf?
Still enjoyed it, thanks.
That's very smart! Instead of recharging one battery is installed in the car, just have 2nd pack or 3rd pack batteries get charged at home and you can also keep the extra pack of batteries in your car and swap them out any time if it's not too heavy. Just like my RC cars or drone.
The logo reminds me of the good old Commodore logo ;-)
For those of you hating on battery swap. You do realize that battery swap works with charging stations NOT against it right? Owners can choose whichever method works best for them. Also, a open battery swap program is a great incentive for both new and used car buyers. You no longer needs to worry about batteries dying out. Because you can just swap it for free. Or at least it is cheaper to replace due to the mechanical construction. Guess which vehicle will be able to hold value in the long term? Tesla?
Excellent presentation, mate !
Excellent report.
Amazing! I recall the Fiat Centoventi concept had something akin to this in its project plan. Here's hoping they do end up going through with that, because battery swapping could make EVs more viable for long range commuters too! (if hydrogen doesn't catch on )
I’ve kept my eye on this company for a while... totally sold! When is it coming to the UK?! Don’t like saying the phrase but I’d say battery swapping such as this is “game changing!”.
The whole battery swap process seems sooo futuristic. Hopefully we get to drive em in Australia
What an amazing set up ! This is the kind of change we need here in the UK to actually make the EV revolution happen. That and cost, again China beats us there too. It's not as if the quality is poor, that model is high spec and looks amazing for so much less than what we pay for half as plush products over here, it's a shame that in the past the UK has lead change and development yet with EV and the infrastructure the UK is so far behind.
AND there is no worry about battery aging!!! 😁
Battery ageing is far less of an issue now than it used to be with cars like the Leaf. But it does strike me that there seems to be no active cooling around the battery in this vehicle.
@@RWBHere of corse it's not an issue, I was joking! 😊 Also, cooling isn't an issue to, surely they fit a fast plug for the liquid cooling.
Battery aging is still a thing btw. They just dont care about it. Who's to say you wont get a 10yr old battery in your car that only actually does half the rated miles in 10 yrs time.
We all know about chinas quality control so they wont even care one bit lol.
@@hellopsp180 And also the batteries industry in China is pretty mature now, compare to many other places. Like their BYD and CTLE(I believe) are all great battery suppliers, not only for China's market, also for other companies.
Tesla v3 charges 200 miles in under 15 minutes
This is more like what it will take to make electric cars more mainstream. I posted a comment maybe as much as ten years ago on either TH-cam, or a forum, I can't quite remember, saying what I thought it would take. I envisioned standardized battery modules, though there could be several sizes. You would drive into a box marked on a garage forecourt. This could be done by autopilot. On the dashboard you would see your current battery's level of charge and select a level of charge you wanted in increments. After authorizing a battery swap, the car would release internal bolts holding the battery in place(so no one could unbolt your battery from the outside and make off with it). A hatch would open under your car and a robot would undo captive bolts on the battery module to remove it. A replacement would then be fitted and the internal bolts would automatically lock. Your car's movement would be disabled during this exchange procedure. You would be billed for the extra charge. There would be a permanent smaller battery in each car to keep the car's services running. The battery modules could be charged using any source of electrical power, including intermittent renewables when available. The battery packs would need to be monitored for wear levels to ensure people were getting the range they were paying for. Tired packs might have a second life as stationary grid storage before being recycled. It seems we're finally part way there!
Very interesting video, thanks!
Really looking forward to this in The US, It Defiantly the future of EV's ,3 minutes compared to 1 hour charging is an eternity
1 hr for 80%, but how long for that 100% you get in the swap? Not to mention the batteries can be conditioned and tested every swap to reduce degredation for fast charging.
Would the US let a Chinese company build this sort of station all over the country? They don't even like when other countries use Chinese companies to build cell network infrastructure.
@@TheRealBFKelleher so true
US hates fair competiton
Fantastic stuff. I'm driving Tesla X in HK. Love it for many reasons. I remember Israel government together with Nissan were planning this swap concept in Israel some years ago. Never took off. Leave it to the Chinese with their 'can do' attitude. Wouldn't it be great if such battery pack can be swapped by any car brand, a modular build? Nah, never gonna happen.
But for the prof market e.g. buscompanies in HK, it's a superbe solution phasing out all them damn diesel buses and trucks within a few years. Government needs to step in to make that happen. Unfortunately our HK government won't consider that...
Great video! I've subscribed.
That was Project BetterPlace. It also launched in Australia and Denmark. Was a private initiative (not Israeli Govt) supported by Renault/Nissan.
Model X seems so large to be driving around HK! Nice work :)
@@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524 yeah I remember seeing better place at the 2011 Melbourne motor show along with the new at the time Nissan leaf and Mitsubishi phev concept. I was quite hopeful about EVs back then but our government has done nothing to help uptake in Australia and we have one of the lowest amounts of EVs in the developed world sadly.
Thank you Elliot! Very Informative and impressive! Hopefully Nio will bring this Technology to the US! I would definitely buy a NIO! I love the battery swap! The cars and suvs are beautiful!
Good stuff. Nice video 👍
i love the idea of replacing battery to save the driver waiting time.
Each replacement needs a service technician to be free and you have to wait in line, if it scales up they need more technicians and queues will only get bigger
@@mofojohnson1 NIO just debuted second generation swap station, which requires no staff and contains more spare batteries (13). The car will drive itself into and out of the station.
Great review. I do like how every time Elliot gives a price conversion from RMB to pounds in these videos a little on screen popup appears with a completely different conversion figure. Shows how unstable currency conversions are!
I also think the vans that will go out to charge your car up if you get stuck somewhere without a working charger or battery swap station is a great idea.
We have those vans in Italy! The price of the charge is quite high, though, and they only charge you up 30kWh, but they can operate on any EV and you don't even have to be there, so it's good to have the option!
@@FabriSlv Yes you can call them on the App, and they will work with any EV car, obviously it's more expensive but NIO has discounts for their customers.
@@jwickerszh Oh, ok, thought those were only for NIO customers!
I like the look of this car. I would definitely drive this!
Great job John! Make sure you get to work on time tomorrow.
GO NIO!!
3 minutes... plus an hour until there was a charged battery ready to install ;)
I laughed at that too. Also, imagine the number of batteries they have to store in each swapping stations if the car becomes really popular. And the amount of electricity they'll be using to recharge them. And what if I come in with a 10 year old battery with not much life left in it, would they still swap it for one that's fairly new?
Electricity is cheap. A buffer of a stack of charged batteries in every swapping station is… a lot of investment.
I fail to see how this business model would pan out. Do they have an estimate on how many batteries need to be prepared at any urban swapping station given X swaps per day so a customer doesn’t have to circle around for an hour and then spend 3 lovely minutes?
I like Elliot, seems to be a good choice as a correspondent for Fully Charged, just needs some liquid courage in his early days of presenting to look, stand and speak a little more confidently on camera. Onwards!!
Well done!
I actually did my dissertation on EVs and battery swapping was one suggestion from a survey respondent. All respondents were in the UK. If this technology was made available anywhere, EVs will surely be more widely accepted and would probably drive the prices lower.
Questions?
1: How long are the OEM batteries warrantied to the original owner/
2: When you swap batteries does your OEM battery warranty transfer to your car in case the replaced charged battery is somehow defective?
John
I'd think in this model all the batteries are owned by NIO, and if you get a defective battery during a swap, they'll just swap it for another one. Just think of the battery as part of the ongoing service, not as part of the product.
I think that's the same kind of deal than when you rent the battery with the Renault Zoe. The battery is still owned by the OEM so they deal with the warranty and replace if it is defective.
@@Findalfen Surely they must have a certain period of time before they say that they won't support these model vehicles anymore?
Like, I wouldn't expect them to support this specific model Nio with battery swapping in say 10 or 15 years time. Unless, they keep the exact same battery housing and screw holes across every model in the future, or somehow develop "adaptors" for older models that are installed during a battery swap. But I don't think that is practical or economical.
@@brad5880 so after 10 years, buying new car will be more economical?
I'm sure they also have battery pack/individual cell health monitoring systems in place that will allow for pack repairs in house and ensure a long service life for the owner of the battery, Nio. Doubt they have engineered in planned obsolescence for something they own.
Today NOV 18 2020,I am feeling great investing in NIO on IPO day 2018 Sep and keep waiting, i will wait 5 more years to take profits.
What a great idea. I always wondered if something like this was possible. It would be great if companies like CATEPILLAR etc. could design an electric forklift with swappable batteries so 24/7 factories with 5 to 10 forklifts so each electric forklift wouldn't need 2-3 hours of downtime a day for charging. Would help a multitude of companies reach net zero!
really good building quality and refinement interior. from what i see, it really is a tesla rival. i'm buying it if i have not got the tesla X
this is insane, the future is now!
I think with time they have the tec to swap more batteries in a single station , the, nio is butting the Solutions for electric car owners and future buyers , really amazing
As my lovely UK friends would say, and highly appropriate for this NIO review...simply 'brilliant!"
I like battery swapping, much faster very convenient, you dont have to wait hours to charge the car, very genius idea, why buy another car they are really thinking about the best for customer and the future. 🥰👍👍❤
Hours for charge? what decade are u living in?
What Chinese companies are doing with EV market is absolutely impressive.
They always change the world with innovation and people said they copy. You will be surprise hoverboard was invented by Chinese and some media states he copy rollerskate. Wtf right.
@@zzzz6355 "They always change the world with innovation" Not always. Its more common for Chinese companies to copy,copy copy products until they understand how they work and creating their own version which may be better in the end. Great example is Chinese Smartphone market. Again, Chinese companies have a bit easier time because there are not that many restrictive laws, which definitely help to move faster during the whole process. You are talking about self-balancing hoverboard invented by Shane Chen 陈星 ? He was born in Beijing but he has American nationality and he is Chinese-American inventor. I never heard about him being blamed for coppying someone, but patent system in US is pretty broken anyways.
@@zzzz6355 It's just history repeating itself.
People used to say Japan copied everything.
Then they said it made cheap, worthless junk...
You wouldn't hear anyone saying either of those things anymore in the last 40 or so years though.
Things change as a country develops...
@@JackieWelles nah man, this is again the statement "whoever migrated to a country means the country designed it"
Again "I never heard of" doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That's the typical often people use.
"copy and copy and make it better" sorry man they don't make it better, they reform the whole concepts and make something new to the market.
Making something better from a copy is just anyone could do it.
@@KuraIthys and both things were true. of course they have since grown up and become more a contributor than just takers, good for everyone.
but right now, china is still about copying and in most cases making a worse product.
beautiful design, the quick swap is the only way to go. i think this is a really awesome EV option. most people go for the looks and it’s great to get amazing innovative quality with it. the interior is very beautiful
A very nice vehicle indeed. The battery swap option is excellent and the standard charging approach is always available when needed which is good as well. Larger vehicles have their place, but as you mentioned, I am drawn toward small commuter vehicles.
Good review....... 0:18 I hope that air conditioning condensation dripping on the garage floor !!
It is
I'm also concerned about how this works with cold climate. How would you get snow and salt off bottom to safely take out and replace?
Works fine. BetterPlace ran the concept in Denmark for some years, and we had plenty of slow, salt, etc.
It doesn't work for a different reason; it requires the batteries to be fairly similar, so it'll typically only be viable on a few brands and a few models/sizes.
And it requires more batteries to be manufactored. Every EV still need a battery in it, but with this there's also a need for extra batteries that can sit on the shelf.
The limiting factor in EV production is battery production, so having to make e.g. 10% extra for the same fleet of vehicles is a bit pointless.
@@Nicoleise it reminds me of the fact that some cars have different adapters to charge, what can't they all be the same? Tesla has faster charge, Total different charging stations. I'm jealous because Tesla has a charger at my local grocery store, but none for us regular guys. I know, Tesla put them in, not the store, but it's so convenient.
@@Nicoleise However with an infrastructure of battery swap, cheaper batteries(no lithium required) with shorter range can be produced.
@@Nicoleise If only car manufacturers defined a new modular battery back standard which could be used on all vehicles. Smaller packs of say around 40kWh and larger cars could have perhaps 3, mid models could have 2 and small cars just the one. That way you could do your regular commute with just one which would cut down on the mass, and if you need to go log distance, plug in more to get you further. Ultimately though, as charging improves this concept of battery swapping is doomed anyway but it would offer some interesting benefits, not least easier recycling if everyone is using the same packs.
Great video!
Love it, Very nice quality looking car albeit too big for UK roads, But battery worries would be a thing of the past with this system.
Wow , China is coming fast
I heard a lot about this car , So a German guy driving it in Shanghai saying that he looked for mistakes in this car but couldn’t find any
Elliot is English. Not German. Not that it matters.
fullychargedshow probably can’t understand that English accent...l
And his name is Frank.
@@fullychargedshow I think he was referring to another youtube video of a German man who drove NIO and was in an interview in China. "Saw a German guy driving it..."
@@fullychargedshow You're right. It doesn't matter. Almost 100,000 Chinese people have purchased this vehicle and their opinion should count just as much as any German or British person.
Wow, super impressive...
"Nice Action" - good Partridge reference, always appreciated.
S class definitely took inspiration from this interior
Bought 1000 shares at $3 and it's over 40k! Will hold it for at least 5 more years.
Spare me 100 shares brother
Battery swapping is the future imho
This is one that I might consider although the nearest battery swap centre is about 100km away.
The UK will never be able to do this ! It’s incredible
I live in India and I feel we're literally moving backward after I watched this video.
Do elaborate plz
@@MHyun-ze5jg I mean to say, India has nothing to show for when it comes to EVs.
@Mellio Kuang Lol
@@globetrotterbengaluru tata motors are coming up but nothing at this extent.
@@pvvv888 our Government is not doing anything to encourage EVs. Perhaps they're scared they wouldn't get their cut if switched to electric. TBH, they are corrupt to the core.
I imagine that the battery connectors would wear out after a while. I guess the machine that swaps the battery would be monitoring the condition of the connector and advise that it needs replacing at a dealer.
I have an 15kw, 3 phase plug which is plugged in/unplugged every day - for 23 years. Never needed replacing.
@@B0LL0CK5 The connector for a 15kw plug isn't made from tinned copper like the battery connectors. Your plug is most likely made from bronze which has a stronger resistance to wearing out. They do wear out eventually at around 150k connections.
Great video 😊
What a fantastic idea, makes owning an EV so easy
Really interesting technology, and about time too!
However, as an aside, when Fully Charged reviews a car there is a often a lot of stuff about the driver's area. I know this matters but could we also have a look at the luggage area too please. Open the boot, fold seats down, remove roller blind, and show us how much space there is, or isn't, in the back, please.
Many of us don't want to use a big car just to drive ourselves around alone, so knowing how well passengers fit, and how well luggage, Ikea Billy book cases, or washing machines might go in the back would be really helpful.
Thank you.
Looks like a brilliant car but too big for me and the narrow West Yorkshire roads...Not sure about battery swapping for cars...I could see it working really well for trucks that might be doing really high mileage per day and little downtime due to switching drivers.
If you can get a HGV down a West Yorkshire road, I'm sure you can with this, I don't think it's any bigger than a Range Rover.
@@amiddled you famously can't get a HGV down every road. Hence the no HGV signs. Cars getting bigger is a backwards step. Bigger needs more energy.
WOW! 3 minutes! This is amazing.
Wow, impressive.
I geniunly think that NIO can hit 70-80$ per share in mid 2021.
@Nigel i realy love their battery swap service, going on road trip and not spending more than 8 minutes charging your EV
@Nigel i own 5000 shares and anticipate a 6 figure balance in my trading account in the very near future
I paid $6800 for 1000 shares of NIO and forgot it completely, now it's $31000, it's all in TFSA.
The most important thing is that the company keeps executing well and attention for details and customers, keep innovating with batteries.
@@Schen-0532 congrats now you are at 42000$ (over 30k in profit).
Renault had a battery swapping program with Better Place a few years back and it flopped. It's hard to see how it could ever go mainstream unless every vehicle from every manufacturer had a common battery format and that isn't going to happen. Neither is any manufacturer going to build out its own sustainable infrastructure nor is it sensible that they do. Battery swapping probably makes better sense in niche applications, such as firms that maintain fleets of identical vehicles, e.g. couriers etc.
Even with that... it s to much cost for almost no reason ... supercharge is so good now...
Damn, you bet me to it... I only read the most liked comments and didn't see this ^^. And to be frank, there is always a solution to non-standards - i.e. implementing them? :-)
Tesla is the pioneer of the EV but this right here takes it to a different level. Glad to be a part of the NIO roller-coaster from it's IPO days to now. Definitely reaping the rewards now for be patient and knowing how far this company will go for years to come.
They did it, the madmen! Actual, practical, automated battery swap technology. Not sure if has a big future with how low the charging times have become, but it's a great proof of concept and I'm sure there will be places where this is preferable to rapid charging.
"practical"
No, because it results in 2-3 times the number of packs in circulation.
What did Elon Musk just say?
"We need more materials"
It's a waste.