I always liked how the 2003 Leo had that huge gash in the back of his shell after the final fight with Utrom Shredder and Karai. It helps to establish that darker tone that the series was going for.
2003 and 2012 are peak no contest. 2003 just really fits that "stoic leader" vibe. And it just looks badass with the swords out, tie-offs flowin', and rain dripin'. And 2012, idk its just really dope. Honorable mention to Rise cause the red-eared slider look is nice.
I always find that Leo is the most consistent design. Whenever we get a new series and everyone gets a design shakeup he is always the closest standard Turtle design.
@@dontreadthis- True, he’s always my favourite design because of this. I think Donny gets the short straw when it comes to redesigning. I don’t know why we always seem to have to give him glasses now because he’s smart.
I feel like Leo has the most consistently good designs out of the 4 throughout all of the shows and movies but I could be biased bc Leo was always my favorite. For Leo I think my favorite design is kind of a 3-way tie between 2012, Rise movie, and the original 1990 movie designs. Though my favorite Leo design of all time is without a doubt Mateus Santolouco's designs for all 4 in general. Those designs were like 2012 designs, but tweaked to be even better, and also the fact that those designs are drawn rather than 3d animated also definitely helps.
What I love about Rise Leo’s design is the fact he doesn’t have any knee or elbow pads unlike his brothers. It visually communicates he’s reckless and doesn’t take care of himself, or even overconfident in his ability to not be hurt when fighting.
His attitude was very different in the 2007 version. Much more serious and somewhat dark. He kills people in the beginning ( jungle). Definitely a different type of leader.
Rise Leo is my goat. He killed it with the humor where the other Leonardos failed at, was given a badass look with the Red Eared Slider look that when in the shadows, looks badass as fuck. And he’s voiced by Ben yet even without that he’s still my fav Leo
My personal favorite Leonardo is the 2012 , prob bc that the one i usually watchbis the 2012 . And i feel like his voice in the 2012 one sounds nicer 😅
As someone who grew up with the 80s TMNT, I always liked Leo the least, was always "the boring one" to me, until Rise of the TMNT. He looks so cool there, he can teleport, and Ben Schwartz gives him this effortless charm. A very different version of Leo, but he became my favorite in that show.
Yeah, gotta admit that before Rise, I only ever cared about Mikey, but I thought the Rise versions were really cool. It was nice to see what Leo would be if he didn't have the weight of responsibility weighing him down. And I absolutely agree that Ben's voice fit this Leo perfectly.
I like the 2012 version most. Mostly because it allows for more range of facial expressions. The Batman crossover is a close second due to the art style.
My favourite leo is the one from RotTMNT (there's just something about a carefree protagonist associated with the color blue and voiced by ben schwartz that just makes me instantly like that character-) Also- think you can do Donnie next?
I would have ranked these a lot differently, mostly based on legitimate concepts of how character design works. Certain decisions here do show more of a bias than a consideration of the quality of the character designs as a whole. For instance the rise turtles should be significantly higher up, at least higher than the Michael Bay TMNT, as those designs are over-cluttered, whereas the rise designs are sleek and streamlined, the right amount of detail without overdoing it
great video !! excited to see your rankings of donnie and mikey’s designs !! i think it would definitely be cool if you covered the designs of other characters; splinter, casey, april, also the tmnt villains like shredder, kraang, bepop & rocksteady also^^
Please Turtle Den, could you please make a video ranking your favorite designs in TMNT comics? From the 1984 Mirage designs to the latest in the IDW comics. Thanks in advance!
My personal favorite designs from Leonardo are the animated design from 2007, the animated series from 2012 and 2003 and the one from Mutant Mayhem, I know that may not count but I also love Mateo Santolouco's design from the idw comics, definitely the worst in my opinion. opinion are the one seen in the rise of the ninja turtles, next mutation and TMNT 3
I personally like the 2007 the most. All the turtles had unique facial features, which made them significantly different from the previous iterations and they were animated in a very character- consistent way. 2003 is my close second, on par with the new Mutant Mayhem version. 2012 had a very particular art style which wasn't exactly my cup of tea but design- wise I thought Leo was really dope too. And I like how Rise handled the markings. That's a nice touch, pretty refreshing.
Ok the next mutation designs aren’t great but does not deserve to be on the same level as the 90s specials turtles. Low C tier for sure. Agree with everything else tho 😁
I did like the poncho cloak Leo wore at the beginning of the 2007 movie. I know it didn't fit in NYC and its purpose was camoflauge, but I would have liked to see it more. I rather like seeing them wear stuff that isn't battle gear or traditional. Then again, I also like the pirate hat bandanas as well.
I like when the Turtles look as little as buff gym bros in green makeup as possible. Therefore, I prefer them to be on the skinnier side and shorter than humans and also with the "frog libs". I also like when they are slightly different shades of green and have different amounts of battle scars and stuff like that. For example, I Raph should have the most battle scars and be the most muscular. I can also get behind him being the tallest. I also like for them to feel as DIY and as Japanese as possible, so the Michael Bay versions' accessories are stupid, whereas '03 Donnie's sports bag filled with tech feels extremely reasonable
Leonardo has always been my favorite ❤ I have always loved the 1990 movie version of him the most, but I still love every version of him.....except for the 2018 "Rise of the Turtles"....that is the only version I do not like out of the TMNT franchise in general. All the others are totally fine. 😊
I see where your coming from. All of the Leo’s got deep and dark character development except rise. And when the movie came out they decided to stuff that character development to him in that movie. They did it beautifully, but it can’t nearly amount to what the others have been through (minus 87, and next mutation)
I love Rise Leo especially the movie one, 2012 Leo, 2023 Leo and 2007 Leo the most and would have put them all at S tier lol. Yes I’m a Leo fan but I do agree that the Leo from the first original movie is the best Leo out of them all
Can you do designs for Mikey, Donnie, Splinter, April O’neil, Casey Jones, Lord Dregg, Slash, Leatherhead, Karai, The Triceratons, Bebop and Rocksteady, Agent Bishop, The Ray King, Baxter Stockman, The Punk Frogs, Kraang, and Shredder?
I feel like the diagonal straps are just added on to the design to add context of how Leo and Donnie hold their weapons on the back of their shells I don’t consider it a trait
I would actually say the original comic for all 4. I know i know.. not on screen.. But i like the concept of them being brainwashed killers with no personality. A story about something as dark as genetic manipulation of animals and deadly revenge should have dark characters and themes. Honestly, always thought it was weird that they turned those books into kids shows.
Imo the rise designs are all amazing s tiers. The individual turtle species for each one of them are so cool and match each of their personalities so well. Plus most of the hate for those designs comes from whiny men children that are drowned in nostalgia.
My favorite is 2012 because he looks the less ugly, the noise isn’t as out, he’s a teenager so he shouldn’t be to bulky, he has humanoid posture, and he looks like he can sneak around.
I’m loving these videos man but the disrespect on the bayverse designs is alarming(I do agree with them being a lil too big tho), I understand why the word old is in the channel name now, clouded by nostalgia with some of these opinions lol
S tier: 2007 movie A tier: Tales of the TMNT tv series, 2003 tv, Mutant Mayhem movie, 2012 tv, Back to the Sewers, Batman vs TMNT B tier: 1990 movie, 1987 tv (1st five episodes only) C tier: 1987 tv (red sky seasons), 1991 movie, Fast Forward, Rise movie D tier: 2016 movie, Rise tv, 1987 tv, Next Mutation, 1993 movie, 2014 movie F tier: Musicals
The 2012 design while I like it okay on it's own, I definitely agree the low poly CG look isn't the best, especially when shows like Miraculous and Sonic Boom look better in terms of lighting. Also those frog hands and feet look real bad. I wasn't really bothered about the Turtles looking angular but that depends on the style, as 2003 Leo looks better than Fast Forward or BTTS than those latter designs are more simpler and not as rounded and as muscular as the original, however the Rise Leo is one of my favourites since he was designed with triangles since all the Turtles were designed with specific shapes in mind. That's a different situation.
1990,2003,2012 r probably the best Leo’s cuz they where so serious about it when it comes to shredder especially 2003 and 2012 when Leo cut shredders head off
If you took the 1990 movie Leo and put on the unique ninja turtle gear from the CGI, I would not have been opposed. But 1990 movie will always be the best. The concept of them standing out more in the cgi I got but the cgi didn’t work.
I have to asked will you be doing this with other characters once out of turtles, like the splinters, the Casey Jones's, April's, Shredders. Bebop and rocksteady
22:31 I swear those things would not protect your knees and elbows at all is it going to wear those while riding a bike and you fall off you're still going to get hurt wearing the type of gear the ninja turtles are wearing in this movie.
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Check out the first video were we rank all the on-screen Raphael designs: th-cam.com/video/juRc9VKfZBA/w-d-xo.html
You forgot about the Fortnite designs.
@@turbo_killer347 ye
Does the 2001 unreleased version count as on screen?
I always liked how the 2003 Leo had that huge gash in the back of his shell after the final fight with Utrom Shredder and Karai. It helps to establish that darker tone that the series was going for.
Fr. I love it.
But then it was removed in the redesigns sadly
2003 and 2012 are peak no contest. 2003 just really fits that "stoic leader" vibe. And it just looks badass with the swords out, tie-offs flowin', and rain dripin'. And 2012, idk its just really dope. Honorable mention to Rise cause the red-eared slider look is nice.
Fax
Absolutely agree 👏👏👏
2012 looks like some Disney character
I always find that Leo is the most consistent design. Whenever we get a new series and everyone gets a design shakeup he is always the closest standard Turtle design.
I think it's because Leo is the "lead turtle", so he would be in most advertised turtle. So he needs to be the most recognizable
@@dontreadthis- True, he’s always my favourite design because of this. I think Donny gets the short straw when it comes to redesigning. I don’t know why we always seem to have to give him glasses now because he’s smart.
@@jameskingman1227 I honestly don't mind the glasses that much, but yeah. I can see how they could be just flat out annoying
I feel like Leo has the most consistently good designs out of the 4 throughout all of the shows and movies but I could be biased bc Leo was always my favorite. For Leo I think my favorite design is kind of a 3-way tie between 2012, Rise movie, and the original 1990 movie designs. Though my favorite Leo design of all time is without a doubt Mateus Santolouco's designs for all 4 in general. Those designs were like 2012 designs, but tweaked to be even better, and also the fact that those designs are drawn rather than 3d animated also definitely helps.
Love the 90s , 2003 versions and 2012 , tmnt mutant mayhem
Me too
Rise Leo is my fav Leo design mainly cus of the colors clashing well and his proportions
What I love about Rise Leo’s design is the fact he doesn’t have any knee or elbow pads unlike his brothers. It visually communicates he’s reckless and doesn’t take care of himself, or even overconfident in his ability to not be hurt when fighting.
My favorite Turtle out of the 4. My favorite versions of him are 1990, 2003, and 2012 💙
Please do April, Casey, Shredder and others.
Maybe include their comic variants to.
My favorite Leo is the 2007 one🔥
U are now my brother and I’m am your brother
Now listen I’m not saying this to ruin your perception of reality, but the 2007 turtles look like skinny frogs with shells
@@buckycharms5393 ur not wrong
His attitude was very different in the 2007 version. Much more serious and somewhat dark. He kills people in the beginning ( jungle). Definitely a different type of leader.
You spelled 1990 wrong
My favorite is Batman vs TMNT design 🔥
Can’t wait for Mikey and Don!!!!
Personally, Rise is one of my fave designs
I choose 1990, 2012, and Mutant Mayhem Leonardo. I still want a new Live-Action TMNT Movie!
Rise Leo is my goat. He killed it with the humor where the other Leonardos failed at, was given a badass look with the Red Eared Slider look that when in the shadows, looks badass as fuck. And he’s voiced by Ben yet even without that he’s still my fav Leo
My personal favorite Leonardo is the 2012 , prob bc that the one i usually watchbis the 2012 .
And i feel like his voice in the 2012 one sounds nicer 😅
i’ll always remember this line from leo, it’s so iconic. 13:12
James Arnold Taylor did a fantastic job as Leo
As someone who grew up with the 80s TMNT, I always liked Leo the least, was always "the boring one" to me, until Rise of the TMNT. He looks so cool there, he can teleport, and Ben Schwartz gives him this effortless charm. A very different version of Leo, but he became my favorite in that show.
Yeah, gotta admit that before Rise, I only ever cared about Mikey, but I thought the Rise versions were really cool. It was nice to see what Leo would be if he didn't have the weight of responsibility weighing him down. And I absolutely agree that Ben's voice fit this Leo perfectly.
In the 80’s I agree, but after that series Leo always kinda became my favourite. Though my favourite kinda changes depending on my mood/series.
Rise is immensely slept on
Are you kidding me rise Leo is literally zesty asf
I like the 2012 version most. Mostly because it allows for more range of facial expressions. The Batman crossover is a close second due to the art style.
Leonardo 2003 is my favorite design. Definitely GOAT.
2003 turtles design was the most badass overall
My favourite leo is the one from RotTMNT
(there's just something about a carefree protagonist associated with the color blue and voiced by ben schwartz that just makes me instantly like that character-)
Also- think you can do Donnie next?
My favorite Leo’s are 2012 and Rise
I would have ranked these a lot differently, mostly based on legitimate concepts of how character design works. Certain decisions here do show more of a bias than a consideration of the quality of the character designs as a whole. For instance the rise turtles should be significantly higher up, at least higher than the Michael Bay TMNT, as those designs are over-cluttered, whereas the rise designs are sleek and streamlined, the right amount of detail without overdoing it
Nothing can beat the 2012 version of Leonardo 🐢👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑
Ngl, 2003 leo I think was the bomb
great video !! excited to see your rankings of donnie and mikey’s designs !! i think it would definitely be cool if you covered the designs of other characters; splinter, casey, april, also the tmnt villains like shredder, kraang, bepop & rocksteady also^^
For me the best Mikey in my opinion is the 2012 Mikey and if you don’t agree I get it
2003/2007, and Rise April clear
@@jtshelton28222012 mikey’s design is super cool !! i really like his design in 2003 and in rise also
The 2012 and 2007 Leo is my favorite. ❤
I think all Leo's design is awesome expit Michael bay
I've always been a fan of when his sheaths are on one side.
Please Turtle Den, could you please make a video ranking your favorite designs in TMNT comics? From the 1984 Mirage designs to the latest in the IDW comics. Thanks in advance!
My personal favorite designs from Leonardo are the animated design from 2007, the animated series from 2012 and 2003 and the one from Mutant Mayhem, I know that may not count but I also love Mateo Santolouco's design from the idw comics, definitely the worst in my opinion. opinion are the one seen in the rise of the ninja turtles, next mutation and TMNT 3
I personally like the 2007 the most. All the turtles had unique facial features, which made them significantly different from the previous iterations and they were animated in a very character- consistent way. 2003 is my close second, on par with the new Mutant Mayhem version. 2012 had a very particular art style which wasn't exactly my cup of tea but design- wise I thought Leo was really dope too. And I like how Rise handled the markings. That's a nice touch, pretty refreshing.
You should also do Casey jones and April and shredder and splinter
2003 should be higher because it reminds me of a leader
When you finish these, please make this a public tier list!
Ok the next mutation designs aren’t great but does not deserve to be on the same level as the 90s specials turtles. Low C tier for sure. Agree with everything else tho 😁
bruh 2012 Leonardo deserves s tier who agrees with me?
I like the 2012 the most but I honestly really like the 2014 one
I did like the poncho cloak Leo wore at the beginning of the 2007 movie. I know it didn't fit in NYC and its purpose was camoflauge, but I would have liked to see it more. I rather like seeing them wear stuff that isn't battle gear or traditional. Then again, I also like the pirate hat bandanas as well.
I like when the Turtles look as little as buff gym bros in green makeup as possible. Therefore, I prefer them to be on the skinnier side and shorter than humans and also with the "frog libs".
I also like when they are slightly different shades of green and have different amounts of battle scars and stuff like that.
For example, I Raph should have the most battle scars and be the most muscular. I can also get behind him being the tallest.
I also like for them to feel as DIY and as Japanese as possible, so the Michael Bay versions' accessories are stupid, whereas '03 Donnie's sports bag filled with tech feels extremely reasonable
I love the 2007 designs it feels like true TMNT
The Best Leonard is 2003 by far.
2012 should have been S tier
Fr
Hell no
I like Mutant mayhem Leonardo
Do Donatello and Michelangelo, please!
My favourite Leo is both 2003 and 2012
Leonardo has always been my favorite ❤ I have always loved the 1990 movie version of him the most, but I still love every version of him.....except for the 2018 "Rise of the Turtles"....that is the only version I do not like out of the TMNT franchise in general. All the others are totally fine. 😊
I see where your coming from. All of the Leo’s got deep and dark character development except rise. And when the movie came out they decided to stuff that character development to him in that movie. They did it beautifully, but it can’t nearly amount to what the others have been through (minus 87, and next mutation)
100% Totally agree with everything you just said! Leo is my favorite
Rise is immensely slept on
13:23 Best TMNT theme ever by far!
We wish u a turtle Christmas is best turtles movie hands down
2003, 2007, 2012 and 2023🔥❤️
Idw and 2012 are my favorite Leo designs. I Hope you have a good 2024 happy new year
Leonardo is my favorite turtle of all. I'm gonna cosplay as Next Mutation Leo for Nebraskon this year because I do like those versions
have the turtles ever had new york voice actors before? if not it’s about time for it.
They also haven’t had teenage voice actors, or hell acted like teenagers like in the name.
@@Fearful_cloudbruh the new movie literally had all teenage voice actors for the Turtles
@@averageblackguy777 That’s what I meant.
I love Rise Leo especially the movie one, 2012 Leo, 2023 Leo and 2007 Leo the most and would have put them all at S tier lol. Yes I’m a Leo fan but I do agree that the Leo from the first original movie is the best Leo out of them all
My favourite is 2003 and the last ronin one ❤
Happy New Year to you and your Friends and Family.
Can you do designs for Mikey, Donnie, Splinter, April O’neil, Casey Jones, Lord Dregg, Slash, Leatherhead, Karai, The Triceratons, Bebop and Rocksteady, Agent Bishop, The Ray King, Baxter Stockman, The Punk Frogs, Kraang, and Shredder?
I can’t decide between 2012, rise, 2014-2016 & MM
Yes. My favorite turtle.
Mine too.
Best design is 2003 in my opinion
The 1987 and the 2003 TMNT cartoons are my favorite Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles look!
2003 turtles were legendary! Gave superhero vibes! Eyes were like batman! iykyk
My favorite Leo is 2022 one ❤
You have great content
Bro put 2012 Leo in b tear and thought he could get away with it
I feel like the diagonal straps are just added on to the design to add context of how Leo and Donnie hold their weapons on the back of their shells I don’t consider it a trait
2012 is the best
I would actually say the original comic for all 4. I know i know.. not on screen.. But i like the concept of them being brainwashed killers with no personality. A story about something as dark as genetic manipulation of animals and deadly revenge should have dark characters and themes. Honestly, always thought it was weird that they turned those books into kids shows.
It was a silly idea to begin with of course they'd lean into it. Also it's the 80's, quality didn't have a high bar when it came to cartoons
My fav turtle the leader in blue
2007 and 2012 are my fav designs
We need a Casey Jones ranked too please and thank you. 🙏🏽
I wouldn’t mind Mikey either. 🐢 💥
I love 2003 casey & 2012 the best
Imo the rise designs are all amazing s tiers. The individual turtle species for each one of them are so cool and match each of their personalities so well. Plus most of the hate for those designs comes from whiny men children that are drowned in nostalgia.
Keep doing what you’re doing bro ❤❤
My favorite is 2012 because he looks the less ugly, the noise isn’t as out, he’s a teenager so he shouldn’t be to bulky, he has humanoid posture, and he looks like he can sneak around.
There is 1990.
Then there is everything else.
TEAM LEO 🐢🔵⚔️
I look forward to your Michelangelo.
Ranking Donatello and Michelangelo when?
I like Leo’s swords on his side as in the Batman vs tmnt movie. It’s more accurate to traditional Japanese swordsmanship and bushido.
I like the 2012 one the best.🐢 also please can you do April, Casey, Splinter,
and the villains Shredder, Krang, and the others.
I’m loving these videos man but the disrespect on the bayverse designs is alarming(I do agree with them being a lil too big tho), I understand why the word old is in the channel name now, clouded by nostalgia with some of these opinions lol
S tier: 2007 movie
A tier: Tales of the TMNT tv series, 2003 tv, Mutant Mayhem movie, 2012 tv, Back to the Sewers, Batman vs TMNT
B tier: 1990 movie, 1987 tv (1st five episodes only)
C tier: 1987 tv (red sky seasons), 1991 movie, Fast Forward, Rise movie
D tier: 2016 movie, Rise tv, 1987 tv, Next Mutation, 1993 movie, 2014 movie
F tier: Musicals
you should rank the shredder on screen designs
Thanks for the video ❤
This is great try Donnie
The 2012 design while I like it okay on it's own, I definitely agree the low poly CG look isn't the best, especially when shows like Miraculous and Sonic Boom look better in terms of lighting. Also those frog hands and feet look real bad. I wasn't really bothered about the Turtles looking angular but that depends on the style, as 2003 Leo looks better than Fast Forward or BTTS than those latter designs are more simpler and not as rounded and as muscular as the original, however the Rise Leo is one of my favourites since he was designed with triangles since all the Turtles were designed with specific shapes in mind. That's a different situation.
What about Ralph’s and Leo’s ninja tribunal chi look
1990,2003,2012 r probably the best Leo’s cuz they where so serious about it when it comes to shredder especially 2003 and 2012 when Leo cut shredders head off
Fire list
If you took the 1990 movie Leo and put on the unique ninja turtle gear from the CGI, I would not have been opposed. But 1990 movie will always be the best. The concept of them standing out more in the cgi I got but the cgi didn’t work.
Nice
Do you ever wish to see Venus de Milo return in a future series? If you don't mind me asking.
I have to asked will you be doing this with other characters once out of turtles, like the splinters, the Casey Jones's, April's, Shredders. Bebop and rocksteady
Leatherheads
2012 is the best one and they wanted him to look like a actual ninja
Wishing the 15-year-old kid turtle in Mutant Mayhem was more muscled is certainly a take.
I like the 2012 Leonardo to be honest the 2012 Leonardo is the greatest ninja turtle version of Leonardo ever
Finally an interesting version of Leo in rise, and they don't make it into S tier? That goes over my had.. 💙
Can you do a ranking every donatello next
22:31 I swear those things would not protect your knees and elbows at all is it going to wear those while riding a bike and you fall off you're still going to get hurt wearing the type of gear the ninja turtles are wearing in this movie.