What doesn't make sense to me is they are facing 20 - 30 years because they are allegedly dangerous criminals who can't live in society (the entire point of prison) but if they betray their co-defendant then they are magically no longer dangerous and released from prison. I can't help but feel the system is extremely flawed and out dated.
Yeah sounds about right. So In other words if he snitches on his homies he’s released and he is now a law abiding citizen. Who any one of us would love to live next door to
maybe they aren't the most dangerous. think about it. i m all the way on the street side instead of law. the major RICO would be given to all government.
I did 5 years in state prison and had 10 years of parole after I got out. I went to work every single day and as soon as the day was over I went straight home. Everyone called me boring and a square but I was successfully released because I knew any little things I would do 10 years and not one of those people that laughed at me and called me names was going to do that time for me
I think it's a dope way to sentence someone. I'm sure there are many other ways to sentence perpetrators. Young people developing crime habbits must be taken to a cold place somewere in the antarctica to work.Change the Environment, thats all. Give them a different, but at the same time shocking experience.
Man 15 years of probation is a trap. Maybe he knows he can’t hold himself to them types of standards. Man I did 4 years, supposed to been 5 but I got off a year early. I really had to change how I was living. No more smoking, hanging out with certain people, going certain places, and doing certain things. You have to be mentally prepared to accept those types of terms.
@DeepVoiceTV proud of you too man i was kinda the same but I was a baller but very calm, liked being alone you know.. My dad always said he does not like too have many friends gets out of hand, I think i got it from him.
He threatened them. If they don’t take the plea deal, they will get life behind bars case dismiss you cannot do that. The judge messed up this case by saying that if he said not guilty, the judge was supposed to say OK.
and even so, the judge is letting them know that even if I was actually voted best judge in GA, I still have no say in the time you'll get if you lose trial. scary ish fosho
@@beverlyhill7403 not only are they hard to find but sometimes you don’t even know you had a good friend because they might have told you something you didn’t want to hear but you needed to hear it. It has a lot to do with what your perception of a good friend is.
If you never been to trial or been to to jail had a public defender you probably don't know what you talking about I had charges that carried 40 yrs the deal was 3 I chose to fight did 7 months came home case threw out glad none of you was my lawyer or friend giving me advise
What a reality check! Even for me… Stay focused y’all, don’t let the devil steal your rewards. Have a Happy New Year 🎆! Furthermore; package deals ain’t no joke. By taking a deal, you Inadvertently implement others. The system has twist! Keep your heads up and stay in your lane. Roll solo bolo if you have to…
I hope they know that the judge did not have to say what he said I been in alot of courts myself and I have never heard a judge say this .they usually dont look at you and treat you just like another paper work that landed on his desk
He’s intimidating the suspect into a plea deal. I’d take the deal then file to dismiss after. The judge is there to explain the legal aspect not make suggestions
Exactly bro. I ain't never had a judge treat me like this and I've been arrested a lot. Usually they purposely leave stuff out to try to trick you into getting more time.
@@orbform this is not true. evidence, or "proof", for plea deals are discussed and litigated between prosecutors and defense attorneys long before this moment in court. The judge is being thorough and making sure they know the risk they are taking considering the evidence against them.
@@wertytrewqa the gov only makes things worse more complicated and more expensive. U u get robbed shoot the guy.... That should be the end of it if u trust strangers in a courtroom with your future you're a fool
The judge is like “uncertainty means you’re probably going to lose😅” Lawyer: “judge my client is going to … not take this very reasonable plea.” Judge: pikachu face 😮
They chose a lifestyle and following the rules. Plea deals hurt thugga and they don't want to be labeled a 🐁. They did the crime so take it to trial and go free or to prison with your head held high. Snitching is a character flaw
@@ionly6805 get what you’re saying but also that same character flaw will save them 50 years, nd allow them to live a normal life. Clearly these guys don’t care about that and care more about what people think of them, rather than living their own life free.
It’s way more to it than this, almost like they know they’d get killed if they took a plea even tho their possible sentences are way more than ppl in the case who already took pleas….. something ain’t adding up
When a judge keeps giving you warnings about your decision…then all of a sudden says let us take a break before you make your decision, he is trying his hardest to say, “TAKE THE DEAL MAN!!”
respectfully, But if your innocent.. YOUR INNOCENT!!! Shouldn't take no deal especially if your innocent. But if you know you did the crime, by all means take the deal
The judge is simply saying "If you go to trial and the jury finds you guilty, I can't save you. The state will require me to give you the max. Please understand this before deciding"
I don't really get this because, the differences between trials and plea deals, are obvious, It's disrepectful to assume that their lawyer didn't already tell them this or that they don't already understand this, it's literally the whole point of a plea deal
@takerisks8370 Are you aware your comment is not remotely related to what I said? You literally have the logical equivalent of saying "Socks make my feet warm" to the comment I made. Nothing I said was about these guys being victims. I was only referring to the possible range of sentences depending on the deal.
I LIKE THIS JUDGE, HE EXPLAINS EVERYTHING PERFECTLY.. WETHER HES GOIN TO VIOLATE THEM OR NOT, HES VERY CLEAR AND HELPS YOU MAKE YOUR OWN DECISIONS KNOWING EVERY SINGLE DETAIL BEFORE YOU DECIDE.
There's a lot of guys in prison, for 20,30,40 years because they didn't take that plea deal. I had to take a plea deal, for something I didn't do, It wasn't fair at all, but if I lost ,my life was in the balance, I would not be free today. I took it as a lesson and I stopped doing everything that lead to that point, and changed my life around for the better.
@@Justheremeout because the Justice system is an absolute mess- being wrongly convicted is an absolute possibility. And sounds like OP felt some of their decisions led them the wrong way and were grateful to get a restart.
That simply doing his job as as judge has you considering him “awesome” is a sad commentary for where we are as a society. “That’s an awesome janitor sweeping BEHIND the door.”
It is coercion to threaten a non guilty party, with max sentence in an uncertain judgement at trial, versus a certain judgment of guilty plea of a non guilty party
Well, at least in this scenario, we don't have to worry about that. Their sentence will now be greater than their plea deal sentence sentence. Their stupidity is our win.
If It weren’t for plea deals, courts would never have the time to try everyone, and people would constantly go free due to their speedy trial rights being denied. Plea deals are in the public’s best interest.
if the courts porsecute every case they will be broke or out of work its impossible to go to trial 100 percent of the time you wanna do that 100 percnt o fthe time stand for hours an look for a jury you know how much work that is for a prosector
Every person who EVER has to either face a judge(as a defendant) or as a practicing attorney should want to face a judge like this man ALLL DAY! Boy was he professional and yet full of humility, and even some empathy.
ONLY IF U INNOCENT FIGHT...IF U GUILT NEGOTIATE..CAUSE IT'S A TERRIBLE THING TO RISK @ TRIAL..I BEEN 2 PRISON 5X...SINCE 1988-2010...I KNOW HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS..THESE YOUNG BOYS THINK IT'S A GAME..LIFE AIN'T A GAME..THAT'S ALL I GOT 2 SAY...👁
The prosecutor has four aces and a fifth up the sleeve, and they do not even know the rules. However, if they took the plea deal and went back to the streets in no time, another gang member might take care of them.
How? They have to take the plea or else they get sentenced for so many years…giving out pleas that are 15 probation just to see them back inside after year or so.
@@jerrys1678 I think they'll beat it. The overwhelming majority of the charges facing all defendants are simply of belonging to a gang. Not individual crimes. The former is much harder to prove than the media would have you think.
Being on probation for 15 years is not easy. So many ways they can violate your terms and send you back, almost guaranteed they get more than the one year out of you. Also, taking the please waives all rights to an appeal and any other protections you had under that law. Make them prove your guilty, don't just sign your life away.
That's ultimately the defendant's decision. He is already getting advised by counsel. If the judge thinks the counsel is incompetent, focus on that, not trying to team up with prosecutors to get him to agree to plea to something he may be innocent of.
Easier to overturn excessive sentence in trial than plea .they can overturn the sentence (excessive)and end up with same Sentence from Plea bargain after overturn
With all these pleas being given out, it's likely the attorneys have picked up that the prosecution doesn't really have anything which is why they are trying to offer pleas...They need them to snitch.
Naw he wasn't free with that plea on the first count he had to serve 16 yrs then 10 on parole all the lesser counts would be served concurrent. Better than 50 but still 16
I mean I appreciate the judge being thorough and I don't necessarily think he's trying to influence them to take pleas, but to really want to make sure he's doing job and explain to these young men thoroughly what is at stake with their lives. I believe it's genuine
@@demetriusready241 He's trying to intimidate them and get them to take the plea deal, and "if they take it they can go home today." Terrible, they have an attorney.
He seems to be playing fair and trying to break it down to them logically and reasonably! I think he knows that of they go to trial they will get smashed with the maximum!!!
Nothing against him as a judge, but can't you see how the system is flawed? Innocent people are forced to take pleas because they get threatened with these absurd sentences. Our constitution gives us the right to a fair trial. How fair is it that they have set up to where you are basically forced to give up your right to trial because you have half a century mandatory if you don't take their plea? Nobody should be punished for deciding to have their day in court, but that is exactly how are system works. There are people that serve 10 years for killing someone.
@@catfisher420 Judges want things to go as fast as possible. Most courts have a massive backlog and need to get things done as fast as possible to move on to the next case.
Probably smiling cause intially Ga state law is under the old law and its called the 1/3 law meaning if you get 30 years youll only do 10yrs before release.... they are tricking these guys into plea-ing but if they all just shut up they want get more than 20 years at most depending on position in the indictment. Unlike most states but for some reason ut doesnt seem like they know the laws and most in this case are plea-ing out...
I´d reject any plea deals when I know I am innocent and know they can not prove I am guilty. Otherwise it is foolish. And listen to your more experienced lawyers.
Now i found the comment I was looking for. I feel the same way. They want them to cop out to 15yrs probation and time served to avoid trial. If they go to trail they'll 💨💨 and b home shortly. Nothing substantial enough to warrant 15 yrs ....
@Menes D Wise Their real lawyers probably brainwashed them and told them something similar. So they can rack up all that trial money . Lawyer: Don't worry they won't really give you that bad of a sentence, they'll change it or you're going to be found not guilty they don't have enough evidence. Blah blah blah
People must be cautious of what they hear in the media and the language that the Court speaks. They will say a bunch of stuff that will try to intimidating you into pleading yourself down the road.
He’s telling him in so many words the case is already lost those guys are going to jail so take the plea instead of trying to fight the unbeatable case and potentially getting 50 years when you can have time considered serve with 10 years of probation for those of you have never been to jail before you will never understand
I hear what your saying however this indictment has a murder 1 charge within it if guys are implicated by any of the co defendants have taken plea deals that states they have to testify against you kind of hard to take it to trial when everyone else have taken a plea what's the plausible defense to state that you are innocent and everyone else just copped a plea ?
They told me the same thing when I was facing an attempted murder charge, I stood my ground took it to trial and they nolo pros the entire case due to the witness not showing up, they offered 10 different plea bargins, from 25,20,15, 10 etc all to walking out of court a free man.. I hope they don't fold
I agree with you and in being prudent, as it pertains to this case, he must know that he will not receive a better deal and the jury will convict him. He has no leverage in the case to go to trial and expect a different outcome.
They were basically letting him go. This is why crime is rampant. A small percentage of the population reoffending over and over with long long rap sheet.
The system threatens you to give up your rights if you don't want to adhere to their plea deals. They don't wanna go to trial because it costs so much. They will make sure they get convicted.
They offered him basically 1 year with probation, or go to trial and get 50 years, these two are not that bright I would have taken that deal in a heartbeat.
@@ThisProbably probably Not! But the fact that they didn’t just bow down and accept the plea is what got me. So many people just take the plea and don’t fight.
@@bornz1 Not when you’re already in the courtroom!?! You’re going straight to trial if you reject the deal. There’s no second offer. Maybe before you go to court, but not after.
The judge basically told old him, this is not a game, take it or leave it….”Momma can break his plate because, he’s never coming home to eat off of it”…..50 years….🤦🏾♂️
Either their lawyers are giving them the wrong info or they seriously think they won’t serve any time whatsoever….which is crazy. At this point , fingers have been pointed already…but this street mentality 🤦♂️. I’m sure the streets will help serve that time for them
@@rootkhan3254 the ones that made Deals already stood up in court and said they were into organized crime if that ain't flipping I don't know what you're talking about
Stay solid to your family love ones gang banging is no a life style is death penalty!! You made your decisions you need to take it!! It is what is it! They knew this coming
I understand his loyalty and him living be the street code. But my guy… if you lose this case. That judge is going to remember how he tried to tell you to cop out. He’s going to also remember that smile on your face as if it’s a game. And he going to lay that sentence on thick
This reminds me of when the judge was warning ⚠️ Darrell Brooks about the challenges he may face representing himself. He didn't believe her, then complained about it when he faced those challenges.
This judge was really trying to be fair and get them to really consider the rest of their lives here. Just think about how many other cases got biased judges and never had a shot .
The judge's role is to administer the proceeding and not to advocate either for the prosecution's plea deal or for the defendant's case. The judge was way out of line.
She looks bad because they didn’t know before hand it’s like they didn’t talk it over shits a joke she wants him to take a deal because she don’t have to do anything her job is over
The HUGE problem with US penal system - is if you actually fight the charges, you dont accept plea deal (97% of people take the plea), and you go to trial - if you lose - its double japordy - meaning no good time - and they charge you TO THE MAX. You are basically penalized for going into a trial when only there you can proove your innocense. This needs to be changed like yesterday!
Wrong. The trial punishment is according to the penal code (not double or extra time) plea deals give you some time off if you plead guilty and save them court costs and tax payer funds.
@@Ronniemcnutted Here is an example of real charge - A person is charged with assault with intend to do GBH, and 4 other minor misdemeanors of threats and resisting. Person pleaded out for 90 days in jail and 2 year probation. This person in the end served 42 days in jail with good time + 2 years probation.( no strike, no more firearms, felon). If that person went to trial - he was facing 2-6 years, if found guilty it trial by jury - that person would be given 6 years in JAIL. And I believe you have to do 80% of that. Also that would be a strike in CA system. point being - its not fair - plus if you go to trial you need to spend at least $10-20k of your money - count appointed lawyers are a joke.
@@dannyj7618 yeah cause 6 years is the normal penalty for assault with intent but plea deals get YOU off easy (it’s not an incentive to plead guilty more like a returned favor for saving court costs)
Well my friend the problem, with your problem, is that if you are in fact innocent, you have nothing to do fear off or jeopardize going into trial. Very few people are wrongfully indicted. And if you did your crime, stop wasting other ppl times just do yo time
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What doesn't make sense to me is they are facing 20 - 30 years because they are allegedly dangerous criminals who can't live in society (the entire point of prison) but if they betray their co-defendant then they are magically no longer dangerous and released from prison. I can't help but feel the system is extremely flawed and out dated.
Extremely flawed, but they do that to keep tabs on them. Statistically speaking most people are repetitive offenders unfortunately.
Yeah sounds about right. So In other words if he snitches on his homies he’s released and he is now a law abiding citizen. Who any one of us would love to live next door to
It’s a joke , but with serious consequences.
maybe they aren't the most dangerous. think about it. i m all the way on the street side instead of law. the major RICO would be given to all government.
Yess one of them is just got 5 years for agreeing to ysl is gang aka gunna deal
They trynna stay “solid” meanwhile Gunna sitting at home drinking hot chocolate.
with Bailey’s
Celebrating the holidays with family and friends.
If you think gunna is ever gonna live non-paranoid then you’re crazy ash. He will forever live uncomfortably after him snitching.
You can sit in jail and drink hot chocolate too..
@Bruce leez Don't taste the same.
I did 5 years in state prison and had 10 years of parole after I got out. I went to work every single day and as soon as the day was over I went straight home. Everyone called me boring and a square but I was successfully released because I knew any little things I would do 10 years and not one of those people that laughed at me and called me names was going to do that time for me
I think it's a dope way to sentence someone. I'm sure there are many other ways to sentence perpetrators. Young people developing crime habbits must be taken to a cold place somewere in the antarctica to work.Change the Environment, thats all. Give them a different, but at the same time shocking experience.
Real deal 💯 welcome home my brother
Kudos 😂
That is true
Your a loser
Gunna twerling his dreds like “couldn’t be me”
Lmao🤣
Man 15 years of probation is a trap. Maybe he knows he can’t hold himself to them types of standards. Man I did 4 years, supposed to been 5 but I got off a year early. I really had to change how I was living. No more smoking, hanging out with certain people, going certain places, and doing certain things. You have to be mentally prepared to accept those types of terms.
I'm doing 5 years of probation trust me I know
It’s good you never drinked.
@DeepVoiceTV proud of you too man i was kinda the same but I was a baller but very calm, liked being alone you know.. My dad always said he does not like too have many friends gets out of hand, I think i got it from him.
hopefully you can change other young men or women lives bro. Hope you will stick to this path bro👍🏾
@@northsidemonte2611 you got this bro hang in there
I couldn't imagine sitting in a court room with absolutely no control over my life.
I know right, just keeping doing good out here & you can stay away from being judged. Much respect bro
God forbid that bro. Nobody can judge me.
I know have it feels
To be fair your in control of your life before ending up there so you do in a way
He had a chance to go home but her chose to take it too trial so I’m this instance it was his choice to make
This man’s fighting for his life and I’m just staring at the judges ear. How is that not uncomfortable
😂😂 same here. Them ears are on a struggle.
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@@JustinSherrod1991personal preference and style bruh if it’s frowned upon the world is softer than I thought
@@JustinSherrod1991Welcome To Atlanta 😂😂😂
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He threatened them. If they don’t take the plea deal, they will get life behind bars case dismiss you cannot do that. The judge messed up this case by saying that if he said not guilty, the judge was supposed to say OK.
Judge is like BRUH what is you doing. take a second thought.
That's exactly what went through his head.
Are.
These charges are a reach. Racketeering? The boss don’t sell drugs, he isn’t extorting restaurants to wash dirty money.
Like quick
I said the same thing. you are right
Seems like they got the best judge they could’ve hoped for
and even so, the judge is letting them know that even if I was actually voted best judge in GA, I still have no say in the time you'll get if you lose trial. scary ish fosho
I agree; there's nothing cool about receiving a life sentence. No one in the hood will think twice about them once their convicted.
Exactly
Maybe
Because he explained it yeah thats cool
Judges ear is FIGHTING FOR ITS LIFE 😂
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I thought I was the only one thinking this!😂
🥲😂go to sleep 🛌 🦻🏽🤣😂☠️💀😂
Did the judge scare him into a guilty plea? Thought that was illegal.
Friendship is not about who acts true to your face, but who remains true behind your back
But why do we always feel like we don’t really have friends?
@@beverlyhill7403 because it's hard to find real friends.
@@beverlyhill7403 not only are they hard to find but sometimes you don’t even know you had a good friend because they might have told you something you didn’t want to hear but you needed to hear it. It has a lot to do with what your perception of a good friend is.
....when doing the RIGHT thing. Not when being criminals.
Friendship or afraid of retaliation? I'm guessing the latter.
I'm glad I stayed out of the streets. All this stuff is too stressful.
U been missing out bud. The streets treat me great.
@@minimumwagemoney3258 you’ll be in the grave soon
@@rjhunt9835 I can rest when that day comes nig
Once that sentence gets handed down, he is going to replay this day in his head for the rest of his life.
This what he signed up for now he holding his own unlike gunna
everybody gotta be a tough guy tho 🤷♂️
@@AnimalAlmightythat's the street code you can't snitch
As reported by the Los Angeles Times, 5 June, 2023: He got 9 years Six months Prison and 10years probation.
@@raywhitehead730kill
If you never been to trial or been to to jail had a public defender you probably don't know what you talking about I had charges that carried 40 yrs the deal was 3 I chose to fight did 7 months came home case threw out glad none of you was my lawyer or friend giving me advise
What a reality check! Even for me… Stay focused y’all, don’t let the devil steal your rewards. Have a Happy New Year 🎆!
Furthermore; package deals ain’t no joke. By taking a deal, you Inadvertently implement others. The system has twist! Keep your heads up and stay in your lane. Roll solo bolo if you have to…
For Real!! No quick money no running around is worth this
You said it all. Been dolo for a decade of dirt and all that ever stuck was paraphernalia. All because no one else knows enough to tell about.
The new Year is March
For real foosball is the devil
They are murderer devil not stealing nothing from them they work for him
I hope they know that the judge did not have to say what he said I been in alot of courts myself and I have never heard a judge say this .they usually dont look at you and treat you just like another paper work that landed on his desk
How do you keep finding yourself in court?
Welp there is a camera recording and people who might give a fuc@ watching. I certain that changes how he doing things
Yes basically saying that I’m gonna find you guilty and you’re going to be in jail for 50 years if you go to trial.
He’s intimidating the suspect into a plea deal. I’d take the deal then file to dismiss after. The judge is there to explain the legal aspect not make suggestions
Exactly bro. I ain't never had a judge treat me like this and I've been arrested a lot. Usually they purposely leave stuff out to try to trick you into getting more time.
It's evil how they try to scare and intimidate people into just pleading guilty.. this system is such a disgrace
Did you ever hear about the stuff this gang did? They robbed women. That seems like a much bigger disgrace than what happened in this court room.
@@wertytrewqa innocent until PROVEN guilty, plea deals are given before any proof is presented. So therefore, the system is a disgrace like bro said.
@@orbform this is not true. evidence, or "proof", for plea deals are discussed and litigated between prosecutors and defense attorneys long before this moment in court. The judge is being thorough and making sure they know the risk they are taking considering the evidence against them.
So you want them to stop offering plea deals 🤡
@@wertytrewqa the gov only makes things worse more complicated and more expensive. U u get robbed shoot the guy.... That should be the end of it if u trust strangers in a courtroom with your future you're a fool
The judge is like “uncertainty means you’re probably going to lose😅”
Lawyer: “judge my client is going to … not take this very reasonable plea.”
Judge: pikachu face 😮
The reward never outweighs the risk.
@@JesusChrist-zy8ef trial is a risk
They chose a lifestyle and following the rules. Plea deals hurt thugga and they don't want to be labeled a 🐁. They did the crime so take it to trial and go free or to prison with your head held high. Snitching is a character flaw
@@ionly6805 get what you’re saying but also that same character flaw will save them 50 years, nd allow them to live a normal life. Clearly these guys don’t care about that and care more about what people think of them, rather than living their own life free.
It’s way more to it than this, almost like they know they’d get killed if they took a plea even tho their possible sentences are way more than ppl in the case who already took pleas….. something ain’t adding up
When a judge keeps giving you warnings about your decision…then all of a sudden says let us take a break before you make your decision, he is trying his hardest to say, “TAKE THE DEAL MAN!!”
respectfully, But if your innocent.. YOUR INNOCENT!!! Shouldn't take no deal especially if your innocent. But if you know you did the crime, by all means take the deal
@WILLY BILLZ very true but in the court of law (fed cases) how many ppl actually win...it's definitely a tough case.
100percent
Maybe so but to who's benefit?
10-15 years of probation jus to end up right back in there doing those 10-15 to the door?? That's not a good deal
Sounds like the judge was attempting to coerce the young man to take a plea.
You come into this world alone and you leave alone. There is only room for one in that casket for a reason…
But while you're in it you're not alone. We all need eachother at some point. If everyone thought like that you would have died at birth
Not always…..
Nah I'm going out BIG
Pretty sure I was in a hospital room full of people, including my parents, when I came into this world.
@@benx6549 tryna rob a bank ?
The judge is simply saying "If you go to trial and the jury finds you guilty, I can't save you. The state will require me to give you the max. Please understand this before deciding"
I don't really get this because, the differences between trials and plea deals, are obvious, It's disrepectful to assume that their lawyer didn't already tell them this or that they don't already understand this, it's literally the whole point of a plea deal
He’s very respectful, he has to explain it . If they don’t take the deal here’s how it’s going to play out and I can’t protect you from it at all .
The state won't require it, the law will. If by the state he means the prosecutor.
@@JohnDoe-xw7ij I don’t think he means disrespect. Explaining it again might help to safeguard the courts from potential appeals.
If they take the plea deal it messes up all of their trails. So yes, reject the plea deal and take it to trail
They will replay this moment in their head for the next 50 yrs
Go home today or 50yrs for 1yr and 15yrs or 10yrs good time. Guy says give me the 50yrs, lol.
@@747_Ryan they’re the ones who decided to join a gang, no one forced them to
@takerisks8370 Are you aware your comment is not remotely related to what I said? You literally have the logical equivalent of saying "Socks make my feet warm" to the comment I made. Nothing I said was about these guys being victims. I was only referring to the possible range of sentences depending on the deal.
😂😂😂😂
He’s smiling like it’s a game. This ain’t no game.
Sounds like the judge assuming they’re guilty 🤦🏾♂️ stay solid especially when you know you’re innocent!
I LIKE THIS JUDGE, HE EXPLAINS EVERYTHING PERFECTLY.. WETHER HES GOIN TO VIOLATE THEM OR NOT, HES VERY CLEAR AND HELPS YOU MAKE YOUR OWN DECISIONS KNOWING EVERY SINGLE DETAIL BEFORE YOU DECIDE.
*whether
YOUR sach un petty phuck. Wash dishes sentience wus lunger soos I can have badder grummer.
Nah he jus want them to snitch😭
@@closurejust680 he’s trying to keep them from throwing there whole lives away
@@ER-uy7ct good looking out.
That Judge understands what’s truly going on.
He saying we gone railroad you! Y’all better take that deal
@@Therealhustlemakebucks 👏💯 Absolutely he needs to be removed, or requested to recuse himself.
@@EW-uw7dg That is what you took from this??? You couldn't be more wrong. He is trying to help these nitwits with their decision.
There's a lot of guys in prison, for 20,30,40 years because they didn't take that plea deal. I had to take a plea deal, for something I didn't do, It wasn't fair at all, but if I lost ,my life was in the balance, I would not be free today. I took it as a lesson and I stopped doing everything that lead to that point, and changed my life around for the better.
Why take a plea if you know you didn’t do it, in the court of law you are innocent until proven guilty
Same man, same
@@Justheremeout because the Justice system is an absolute mess- being wrongly convicted is an absolute possibility. And sounds like OP felt some of their decisions led them the wrong way and were grateful to get a restart.
@@maniackyjr I’m sorry. It happens constantly
That's an awesome judge. Trying his best to explain to these men what's at stake.
Judges don't get enough credit. Some are vile but some top notch.
That simply doing his job as as judge has you considering him “awesome” is a sad commentary for where we are as a society. “That’s an awesome janitor sweeping BEHIND the door.”
@@dovan4092, it seems like he’s explaining it, without the usual legal jargon, for the court’s benefit, not theirs.
I hope they get 50years!!!
Crime so bad you have no bond.. but you can get out rn
It is coercion to threaten a non guilty party, with max sentence in an uncertain judgement at trial, versus a certain judgment of guilty plea of a non guilty party
That’s not what happened. He said “if you get convicted” multiple times.
plea deals are far too over used. Like it's mandatory part of justice system to negotiate your guilt. Haggle over the truth
Well, at least in this scenario, we don't have to worry about that. Their sentence will now be greater than their plea deal sentence sentence. Their stupidity is our win.
I agree
If It weren’t for plea deals, courts would never have the time to try everyone, and people would constantly go free due to their speedy trial rights being denied. Plea deals are in the public’s best interest.
Hot take
if the courts porsecute every case they will be broke or out of work its impossible to go to trial 100 percent of the time you wanna do that 100 percnt o fthe time stand for hours an look for a jury you know how much work that is for a prosector
Looking forward to Bruce rivers commentary.
Me too!
Same!
@@CheavorTV tory is guilty
And who is hee... 🎵 Bruce Rivers the criminal lawyer
Every person who EVER has to either face a judge(as a defendant) or as a practicing attorney should want to face a judge like this man ALLL DAY! Boy was he professional and yet full of humility, and even some empathy.
Lmmfao he just doesn't want to sit through two extra trails is all
@@CHRISTisKing197 Exactly.
@@CHRISTisKing197 makes no dayum sense - he is a TRIAL judge he will have to sit through trials regardless if it is theirs or, someone elses smh 🤦🏽♀️
@@CHRISTisKing197 true true
He's trying to intimidate them and working in collusion with the prosecutor, he has to be removed or be requested to recuse himself.
ONLY IF U INNOCENT FIGHT...IF U GUILT NEGOTIATE..CAUSE IT'S A TERRIBLE THING TO RISK @ TRIAL..I BEEN 2 PRISON 5X...SINCE 1988-2010...I KNOW HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS..THESE YOUNG BOYS THINK IT'S A GAME..LIFE AIN'T A GAME..THAT'S ALL I GOT 2 SAY...👁
I like how the judge felt the need to define the word "uncertainty" for the defendants LOL
Judge scoffing at the not guilty plea🤔
Well they didn't get there by spending their free time in the library. 😂
Yes I guess he chosed 50 years
@@EricK-tb2dn 😂
I would pay to find out what's inside their heads
This thumbnail really teaches how to wear facemasks correctly!
Why is the defendant smirking so much under serious circumstances?
Most of these hood dudes brains barely work. They have minds of small children.
It is comical to him, he doesn’t care
Arrogance
Average IQ of 85.
He’s a recidivist which means he’s been here before so it doesn’t faze him
I would've taken the plea deal and moved out of state and enrolled into a trade school and started a new beginning for myself in life.
until u get in a self defense scuffle and do 20 years for defending urself...
Cuz u a rat
So you would do crimes with your childhood friends and then snitch when caught ??? Selfish
EXACTLY. go home today and turn ur life around. Go to church, join the mosque, go to the army, sell cars etc…. or face 50 years
You better walk a super strict straight line cause if you screw up your gone for life
In poker terms WE ALL IN Judge
🤣
yeah with 9-2 offsuit 🤣
The prosecutor has four aces and a fifth up the sleeve, and they do not even know the rules. However, if they took the plea deal and went back to the streets in no time, another gang member might take care of them.
I ain't doing time n paper trying to Railroad the man in the judge telling you he going to give him the max
drawing dead on the flop.
They are giving thrm the plea desls because they have no evidence, just hearsay
I Like this judge he seems to have some compassion
Until he 💨 that’s ahhh….
I don’t. Lenient judges like this are why crime in this country is what it is.
@@RJMEL24 Poverty and the price to eat rent and raise families is. Not lenient judges. FOH with the nonsense
@@JamesEarlBonez not poverty just bad parenting
How? They have to take the plea or else they get sentenced for so many years…giving out pleas that are 15 probation just to see them back inside after year or so.
They acting like they a New York crime family from the 80's
All judges are pro prosecution. Plea deals is just an easy way to win cases. He’s doing a favor for Fani Willis, not these two.
They about to beat this case, they it would be a matter of time, that the state will crumble. See what a whole year later would do. Lol 😂
Judge is basically begging him to take the plea. He has already seen the evidence against them and know they won’t win in trial.
I doubt it
That's not why they push pleas on people, it's actually the opposite. He doesn't want them proven innocent
@@JennaVonLucius you really think they will beat this? Meet me back here after the 15 year verdict lol
@@jerrys1678 I think they'll beat it. The overwhelming majority of the charges facing all defendants are simply of belonging to a gang. Not individual crimes. The former is much harder to prove than the media would have you think.
They don’t want to be labeled a snitch. Where they gonna go as a snitch ? Move their family to another Country.
Being on probation for 15 years is not easy. So many ways they can violate your terms and send you back, almost guaranteed they get more than the one year out of you. Also, taking the please waives all rights to an appeal and any other protections you had under that law. Make them prove your guilty, don't just sign your life away.
I did 10 years paper. No problem
They would just have to MAN UP!
Yea but facing 50 years and not even 30 …
vs 50? 15 year probation lot better than 50 years in jail
Easier than 50 years. Wow you are not smart
Being on probation is a piece of cake if you stay out of trouble and turn from the street life🙃
This boy better pray he beat trial after this plea deal 😂
Are you slow the judge just said there is a certainty he looses
He will definitely lose he could’ve been home today
There’s only one thing that he’ll be beating for the next 50 years…
This the lawyer that told the defendant the court had a warrant for him on a murder charge
1 month later ole boy gonna be in his top bunk crying
"I shoulda took that plea" 😭
Big facts 💯💯💯. That smirk gon be gon
Trust me Nard king of the jungle
Just wait till Bubba bust them cheeks.
😂😂😂
That's what usually happens when it sinks in
When keep it real goes wrong 💯
😂😂
Wu-tang!
what are the chances of them actually beating the trial? are there evidences or something?
@@kingandgod Hard to say. We will know when the case starts. Anyone who says they are certain of an outcome is ignorant.
The judge is reiterating what their attorneys are likely telling them. Trial would be a huge risk, don’t do it! 🤦🏽♂️
That's ultimately the defendant's decision. He is already getting advised by counsel. If the judge thinks the counsel is incompetent, focus on that, not trying to team up with prosecutors to get him to agree to plea to something he may be innocent of.
Easier to overturn excessive sentence in trial than plea .they can overturn the sentence (excessive)and end up with same Sentence from Plea bargain after overturn
They're not going to practically beg you to take a plea on a case they think they can win.
With all these pleas being given out, it's likely the attorneys have picked up that the prosecution doesn't really have anything which is why they are trying to offer pleas...They need them to snitch.
@@dawgyo excatly but they just gotta hope they really ain’t do nothing and the other people don’t snitch on them
Judge is like: F EVERYBODY ELSE. get out of here! Be smart
Time offers will only get worse from here on out....The court will move to prove a point
Let them get worse I’m looking for not guilty
Ship sunk and they holding on . 🤷
Bc they know it's beatable what proof do they have foreal
@@314murdacapitall salute to you honorable sir.
Already is
I feel like the judge know they can't win no matter what
He’s looking at the case and he knows they won’t win
@@EazyTheRecon yeah he's asking them to think...
The judge isn’t concerned about these men, he’s trying to help the state get convictions which will play on all the others trails.
Wow… plead guilty and you’re free or plead not guilty and 99% chance you get 50 years in prison… Whats there to think about 🤣🤣
Naw he wasn't free with that plea on the first count he had to serve 16 yrs then 10 on parole all the lesser counts would be served concurrent. Better than 50 but still 16
@@JamesEarlBonezwrong. The sentences were running concurrently and he had time served . He would of walked out that day
Then if he takes the plea, you will be bashing him about being a snitch. Can’t win for losing
I mean I appreciate the judge being thorough and I don't necessarily think he's trying to influence them to take pleas, but to really want to make sure he's doing job and explain to these young men thoroughly what is at stake with their lives. I believe it's genuine
I 👍 agree they go above and beyond the call of duty.
That's not the judges job. That's his attorney job.
@@demetriusready241 it is the attorneys job. He or she must make sure everyones rights have been met and served.
@@demetriusready241 He's trying to intimidate them and get them to take the plea deal, and "if they take it they can go home today." Terrible, they have an attorney.
🤦🏽♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣
I work in the court system and have been over 20 yrs. They make it far too easy for these defendants they feel the court system is a joke
That is complete byllshit
And Fulton county is a BIG joke
When they get 50 years and life they might realize they court is serious.
Do they make it far too easy for the real gangsters? Bankers, politicians, and pastors? I'll wait.
@@EricK-tb2dnin 10 years they’ll have an appeal and get out you’ll see.
And... that judge (term in quotes) is now off the case.
This judge is an example on how a judge should be
He seems to be playing fair and trying to break it down to them logically and reasonably! I think he knows that of they go to trial they will get smashed with the maximum!!!
Nothing against him as a judge, but can't you see how the system is flawed? Innocent people are forced to take pleas because they get threatened with these absurd sentences. Our constitution gives us the right to a fair trial. How fair is it that they have set up to where you are basically forced to give up your right to trial because you have half a century mandatory if you don't take their plea? Nobody should be punished for deciding to have their day in court, but that is exactly how are system works. There are people that serve 10 years for killing someone.
Why would a judge beg to not go to trial? Probably because their case isn't that strong.
@@catfisher420 I don’t think the judge cares. He’s not the state prosecutor and he doesn’t lose any money from them going to trial
@@catfisher420 Judges want things to go as fast as possible. Most courts have a massive backlog and need to get things done as fast as possible to move on to the next case.
Is crazy how he back there smiling when he can get 50 to life
Ignorance is bliss
Probably smiling cause intially Ga state law is under the old law and its called the 1/3 law meaning if you get 30 years youll only do 10yrs before release.... they are tricking these guys into plea-ing but if they all just shut up they want get more than 20 years at most depending on position in the indictment. Unlike most states but for some reason ut doesnt seem like they know the laws and most in this case are plea-ing out...
@@MrJamroc imagine thinking that's something to smile about lol
Just 50
Not he can do to change the outcome. Plus this the life he chose. He cool with it
Imagine if everyone rejected plea deals.
With all the evidence they have they was all going away for a long time 50 murders come on if everybody rejected that plea deal yeah life
if it were that easy , every one would plea and go home
They would of walked everyone of them
When everyone stays solid nothing will stick but people usually always fold
I´d reject any plea deals when I know I am innocent and know they can not prove I am guilty. Otherwise it is foolish. And listen to your more experienced lawyers.
Thank you Jesus for helping me do my 5 years and never go back. thank you
The states case is weak! I’d definitely go to trial!
Now i found the comment I was looking for. I feel the same way. They want them to cop out to 15yrs probation and time served to avoid trial. If they go to trail they'll 💨💨 and b home shortly. Nothing substantial enough to warrant 15 yrs ....
Ya take it to trial!
take it to trial they mentioned two convictions that are they exact same telecomunications and a device fuxk off
Facts
@Menes D Wise Their real lawyers probably brainwashed them and told them something similar. So they can rack up all that trial money . Lawyer: Don't worry they won't really give you that bad of a sentence, they'll change it or you're going to be found not guilty they don't have enough evidence. Blah blah blah
If there was no cameras in the court room I guarantee they take that deal
Nahh I doubt it…
I agree.
Wow, the state was about to go VERY LIGHT on some gang bangers. No wonder this sh** never ends.
100%
And the state also goes easy on gangbangers in uniform, aka cops and just give them a slap on the wrist with pay to crimes they commit
That’s why no one respects the law anymore , even if the criminals do get caught , they are let go with nothing more than a slap on the wrist.
You don't know if they are actual gang members they are innocent until proven guilty not the other way around
If they didn’t have a hard on for celebrities, they wouldn’t be offering those types of deals
If they get convicted, they will cry behind closed doors, kicking them self mentally for the next 35 years, damn what a life
So let’s see how this goes they may seriously regret the ten toe down stance soon.
Gon regret it after the 15 years for sure 😭
😅😅
She still didn’t explain it good I bet they still don’t understand they doing 50 years minimum
May? Most definitely will. It’s not worth it.
It was only 15 years probation. They turned it down????? I don't get it.
People must be cautious of what they hear in the media and the language that the Court speaks. They will say a bunch of stuff that will try to intimidating you into pleading yourself down the road.
He’s telling him in so many words the case is already lost those guys are going to jail so take the plea instead of trying to fight the unbeatable case and potentially getting 50 years when you can have time considered serve with 10 years of probation for those of you have never been to jail before you will never understand
I hear what your saying however this indictment has a murder 1 charge within it if guys are implicated by any of the co defendants have taken plea deals that states they have to testify against you kind of hard to take it to trial when everyone else have taken a plea what's the plausible defense to state that you are innocent and everyone else just copped a plea ?
They told me the same thing when I was facing an attempted murder charge, I stood my ground took it to trial and they nolo pros the entire case due to the witness not showing up, they offered 10 different plea bargins, from 25,20,15, 10 etc all to walking out of court a free man.. I hope they don't fold
Right
I agree with you and in being prudent, as it pertains to this case, he must know that he will not receive a better deal and the jury will convict him. He has no leverage in the case to go to trial and expect a different outcome.
“Tenquarius“….?! Is that a mixture of Greek and Roman? Or a mixture of a number and zodiac? Hmm?
Very sure of themselves! The judge did a good job in explaining the pros and cons.
They were basically letting him go. This is why crime is rampant. A small percentage of the population reoffending over and over with long long rap sheet.
I would have took that 15 years probation and became a Model Citizen they CRAAAAAZZZY 😂 WHEN THE GAME OVER ITS OVER FRFR GO STRAIGHT
Don’t do the crime if ya can’t do the time boys 😅
How you know they committed a crime
guess you dont know how rico works .
The system threatens you to give up your rights if you don't want to adhere to their plea deals. They don't wanna go to trial because it costs so much. They will make sure they get convicted.
They offered him basically 1 year with probation, or go to trial and get 50 years, these two are not that bright I would have taken that deal in a heartbeat.
They know they gonna violate probation the very day they are released. Some people are a waste of life.
@@edgarcamacho9567 😂🤣 FACTS
@@ArnoldSchwarz_enigger I would've took the deal too in that situation 🤷🏾♀️ why not? The whole gang taking pleas. It''s a group thing 😂🤣
💯💯💯💯💯
The chances of doing 10 years probation and never breaking the law is slime to none, especially if they continue with the same lifestyle
Y u think that’s the deal on the table
Slime to none! 😁
@@lilmoe6259 isn’t that what the lady said, basically 15 but 10 if he doesn’t violate?
Lol. Pretty hard not breaking the law. Lol.
@@markthayrr if they even break certain traffic laws they could be violating their probation
They don't have a case go to trial young man
I said the same thing💯
These two men fully understand what they signed up for. Rare breed.
No bond was ever given BUT if you take this plea you can go home today. ? Wtf??!
In lieu of bond, granted time served
50 years if you blow trail but one if you plea wtf!!!
And in that, lies the rub.
@@independenceboyd2042 Blow trail ?.....leave that blow alone, not good !
@ G K you & listen to understand instead of listening to respond
I caught the chills when she said “He rejects the offer and is now ready for trail”.. Yes!!! Apply pressure if you’re innocent young man!! 💪🏾💪🏾💯
Bruh you really think any of them are innocent?
@@ThisProbably probably Not! But the fact that they didn’t just bow down and accept the plea is what got me. So many people just take the plea and don’t fight.
@@bornz1 because if you're actually guilty and you fight they're gonna throw the book at you
@@gabrielgalaxygh I know but by turning down the first plea they flash at you is no good. 80%of the time they come back with better number.
@@bornz1 Not when you’re already in the courtroom!?! You’re going straight to trial if you reject the deal. There’s no second offer. Maybe before you go to court, but not after.
He won’t be smirking like that after trial. I promise you that.
We’re going to come back to this post. 🎲🎲
Its a double edge sword 🗡️..example 3 do 10 any lil thing will land you back in Georgia probation....cause Georgia doesn't have parole only probation
I'm grabbing my popcorn for this one! 👀🍿
The judge basically told old him, this is not a game, take it or leave it….”Momma can break his plate because, he’s never coming home to eat off of it”…..50 years….🤦🏾♂️
15 years probation is a trap.
These folks think they in court for some traffic tickets .. nah son most of the time you gon do some TIME...is what it is⚡💯
If you hire a good enough lawyer under a different judge, you could reduce that time significantly.
Everybody ain't scared of time
@@raynpwoell9716 These dudes are straight up clowns, I have no sympathy for them at all
Those was the only two guys who stood firm on they word and bond and I commend them salute
Facts nothing but 🫡
Nawl tic took the plea
I never heard a judge literally beg them to take a plea deal something gotta be wrong with the case
No way they are getting out to many people flipped already. The judge is trying to tell them we got you don't waste the time with the trial.
Either their lawyers are giving them the wrong info or they seriously think they won’t serve any time whatsoever….which is crazy. At this point , fingers have been pointed already…but this street mentality 🤦♂️. I’m sure the streets will help serve that time for them
lmao nobody "flipped" if you think taking a plea is flipping i feel bad for you if you ever have to go to court cause your gonna be lost
@@rootkhan3254 I think you’ve read or comprehend that wrong….so I’ll send it back to you , “I feel sorry for you”
@@rootkhan3254 , one member already testified stating YSL is infact a gang
@@rootkhan3254 the ones that made Deals already stood up in court and said they were into organized crime if that ain't flipping I don't know what you're talking about
Stay solid to your family love ones gang banging is no a life style is death penalty!! You made your decisions you need to take it!! It is what is it! They knew this coming
Was just about to write the same thing
@@hazzo20 don't do the crime if u can't do the time
Random youtube gang member: wut up blood!?
Bro he just being a man he knew wtf he signed up for so he standing he being solid for himself because of his morals you can’t fault him for that
Part of gang banging is snitching.
Salute to these dudes that stand on business
I understand his loyalty and him living be the street code. But my guy… if you lose this case. That judge is going to remember how he tried to tell you to cop out. He’s going to also remember that smile on your face as if it’s a game. And he going to lay that sentence on thick
Gotta stand on what you say and he said no
Ten toes down??👣👣
This reminds me of when the judge was warning ⚠️ Darrell Brooks about the challenges he may face representing himself. He didn't believe her, then complained about it when he faced those challenges.
The judge explained he can’t control the length of the sentence he gets the max regardless
Doesn't matter what the judge remembers. The guy is going to get 50 years regardless.
This judge was really trying to be fair and get them to really consider the rest of their lives here. Just think about how many other cases got biased judges and never had a shot .
Even with a plea deal bro you still not going to have a life too many stipulations and limitations.
16 years of probation ain’t no life if they get picked up for loitering the going back to jail this deal not sweet
@@mzboyd318 That's not true at all. You don't know what you're talking about.
The judge's role is to administer the proceeding and not to advocate either for the prosecution's plea deal or for the defendant's case. The judge was way out of line.
He is warning them, if you lose you gonna do 50 years. Take the plea.
The look on his attorney’s face before she announced his rejection says it all.
She looks very embarrassed be saying what she said. Looks bad on her that she couldn't convince her client to take the deal.
@@lebski6033 i don’t think it’ll make her look bad
@@euanhutchinson5132 She probably thinks it does though. That's why she's embarrassed.
She looks bad because they didn’t know before hand it’s like they didn’t talk it over shits a joke she wants him to take a deal because she don’t have to do anything her job is over
@@peskycitizen6651 Yep, now she she has to earn that state pay or his money
The HUGE problem with US penal system - is if you actually fight the charges, you dont accept plea deal (97% of people take the plea), and you go to trial - if you lose - its double japordy - meaning no good time - and they charge you TO THE MAX. You are basically penalized for going into a trial when only there you can proove your innocense. This needs to be changed like yesterday!
It wont be though
Wrong. The trial punishment is according to the penal code (not double or extra time) plea deals give you some time off if you plead guilty and save them court costs and tax payer funds.
@@Ronniemcnutted Here is an example of real charge - A person is charged with assault with intend to do GBH, and 4 other minor misdemeanors of threats and resisting. Person pleaded out for 90 days in jail and 2 year probation. This person in the end served 42 days in jail with good time + 2 years probation.( no strike, no more firearms, felon). If that person went to trial - he was facing 2-6 years, if found guilty it trial by jury - that person would be given 6 years in JAIL. And I believe you have to do 80% of that. Also that would be a strike in CA system. point being - its not fair - plus if you go to trial you need to spend at least $10-20k of your money - count appointed lawyers are a joke.
@@dannyj7618 yeah cause 6 years is the normal penalty for assault with intent but plea deals get YOU off easy (it’s not an incentive to plead guilty more like a returned favor for saving court costs)
Well my friend the problem, with your problem, is that if you are in fact innocent, you have nothing to do fear off or jeopardize going into trial. Very few people are wrongfully indicted. And if you did your crime, stop wasting other ppl times just do yo time
They are threatening him to sign a plea..
Facts😂
That judge should be removed or requested to recuse himself ASAP.
That was an absolute sweetheart of a plea deal! What a friggin clown!
How is that a good deal? They want him to serve 15 years in prison and 15 years on probation.
He going to trial and LOSE and get a 50 piece. They should have taken the plea. It is too late now.
“Sweetheart”. Ok lmaoo
Yall already playing with my life I'm Goin to trial
They want to take the plea, just not while the cameras are rolling and not while other defendants are in the courtroom.
Doesn’t matter Bloggers are the new camera soon as they take it it’ll be all over TH-cam
Them thinking that a plea agreement is snitching is hilarious.
@@LostSoulsmusic22 When the deal requires you to incriminate others it is.
@@daviddillardjohnson9137 does the deal require them to incriminate others?
@@LostSoulsmusic22 Yes.