Heather Mac Donald And Glenn Loury On Policing, Race, And Ideological Conformity
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- Heather Mac Donald and Glenn Loury are fearless and independent thinkers on topics from police brutality to academic freedom. In this dialogue, these renowned non-conformists will interview each other on issues relating to policing and public safety. Mac Donald and Loury have been vocal-and frequently against the current-on anti-police protests, defunding efforts, and claims of systemic racism. These scholars will discuss where they agree and where they differ in their understanding of this critical and divisive moment in America. Mac Donald and Loury will also reflect on how we move toward greater trust, safety, effectiveness, and justice in policing and community safety.
Smart people are smart people, irrespective of race, color or creed.
Or political leaning
@@radicallefty7069 was Stalin smart ? killed millions, I think not
@The Lone Stranger Yes but what's important is the brain under your skin color! And Whites are MORE ENDOWED. But I guess God is responsible!
@@simonclare100 Stalin was a political genius and very-well read, but criminals can be very smart! I'd rather hear Wagner, although he was an antisemite, than some guy playing the drum in the jungle!
@ depends how you define smart really, Stalin was intelligent certainly, but if he was smart he'd have used it for good
Honesty, courage, intellect, compassion. I just wish there was a middle ground people could meet at.
(hey make another video)
@@number2pencil988 I will do. When I feel angry / inspired enough again. Thanks for the encouragement! :-)
There is...it's called objective scientific research with concurrent replication studies...assuring the veracity of derived results. Now, to find intellectually capable and honest and politicians as well as journalists who will loudly vocalize objective data is a much more difficult task.
Very Succinct....if you switch honesty and courage, it makes the acronym CHIC. I wish it was chic to think that way today.
@@greym7857 I like it! I'll remember that - think chic.
I see Glenn Loury I click
I see Heather Mac Donald and I click.
@@workhorse7134, perhaps both of you should think about what they are actually saying: Glen, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. We have equal treatment before the law and if the rapist cannot get off because he raped a slut, then in George's case, the cop cannot get off just because George had a criminal record. That is the first point. Second, BLM is trying to hold cops accountable who murder unarmed citizens. Why? Because we can see with our own eyes who needs to be held accountable. Now, Glen, your objection to cops being held accountable is that some unknown person is not being held accountable for the murders they commit. Are you kidding? You first have to determine who did the murder, no? And whose jobs is that, Glen? Why, the f*cking cops! Glen, please, stop, drop and think, please. QE
@@danilopompey754 with all due respect, I think you misunderstood Loury's positions. Watch it again thinking of ways the conversation contradicts what you wrote. I think you will be surprised.
I see either one or both and click!!!
@@gabrielenriquemartinez, me parece que eres tan tonto. You must be a troll, right? Why did you comment on my comment if you could not refute a single thing I said, not one. Your thesis is: I misunderstood, so I should review the video to find support for your assertion? How do you sound? Can you hear yourself? You’re trolling me, right? Chico, it’s your thesis and therefore your job to support it with some evidence. Me thinks you too need to stop, drop and think . . . Refrain from commenting on my posts, please, since you so obviously have nothing substantive to say. QED
NO ONES as based as Heather Macdonald, shes been fighting this fight before ANYONE saw it/cared/etc.
Camile Paglia has been writing and speaking on what we now call "woke" culture for 30 years
Yes she was this coming a long time ago.
Geeeeez! This beautiful discussion is the kind of thing we should be seeing on PBS, MSNBC, FOX, CNN etc. Also as in editorials in NY T, WSJ, LA Times, Chicago Tribune, etc. Instead we see cowardly platitudes and boot licking to cancel culture. Good for you, Dr Loury and Prof. MacDonald. I hope more people expose themselves to your discussions and writings! Thank you for being wonderful examples of how to convey sanity and civility in a discussion!!!
Never going to happen.
Check out: Life Liberty and Levin, on FOX; April 25, 2021. Thoughtful and truthful. Just the facts. Bravo.
36:33 Or in the "Floor" of Either Chamber the U.S. Congress by Genuine, Honest "Leadership". ANY Side, ANY Race.
Both Glenn and Heather exemplify what free intellectual discourse should be. They provide a public service by keeping a check against the dogma of critical race theory and unreflective leftists. And they are both risking their career time and time again.
To facilitate the rise of lawlessness, glorify the lawbreaker.
It is so disturbing and depressing to see people's businesses and lives being destroyed with literally no consequences whatsoever. Radical left activists spouting absolute delusions in declarations of racism, oppression, supremacy and privilege. This is why I was so surprised when Biden was elected. I suppose it is possible that people would rather live in anarchy and false social claims rather than vote for trump. We must return to reality, equality and solutions to the young blacks believing that we are all racist and that any skill or ability is a "white mans" act, which should not matter and it should all be simply personal effort and responsibility.
Apropos of what Obama didn't say, what about what he did say at the DNC, that our young people are showing us the way. A deeply irresponsible statement to say the least.
Isn't another reason "white supremacy" and "white guilt" etc., are so readily embraced is because it's the easiest way forward? It would be so much harder to do the actual work of changing Black culture or, for that matter, doing the actual studying, delaying gratification, etc. Maybe that point was made and I didn't hear it.
Even suggesting that cultural change is warranted as a path ahead is considered "racist" (Ibrahim Kendi) Kind of makes me think that on the one hand people have lost hope in achieving equality and equity in the meritocratic way. Also, the leaders seem to not want a way ahead.
Prof. Loury has made similar points in the past, although perhaps focused on affirmative action in schools.
@CalvinSomething That's easy to do, but responsibility and blame are distinct. If a drunk driver messes my leg up, it's ultimately his fault but it's my responsibility to do the physical therapy, and if I never do it I can't say he's the only reason I didn't improve.
@@highneedforcognition9660 The other part to be noted here is that the drunk driver is long dead. Many are now blaming his children and grandchildren for his misdeed, which is obviously an extremely unethical thing to do. However, it is one of the most used tactics right now, and it will do nothing to make things better.
@@rogerk662 I think there's an ethical argument for some of the drunk driver's wealth passed down through generations to be redistributed to me if I was unable to sue him while he was still alive. In a functioning society, insurance would have already paid me for my lost time, wages, and suffering, but I can't keep asking for more money because I can't walk as fast as I once did if I did not also do the physical therapy that was agreed to in the settlement.
Like a Jordan Peterson Lecture... All these obvious truths brought to light explicitly. Minorities need to work within their communities to nurture the sovereignty of individuals and not blame external forces for their woes. What's missing in these communities is self-worth due to the lack of identity... Identity is directly linked to FATHERS.
And don't forget the welfare state that financially incentivises single mother households.
Nothing wrong with a temporary safety net however when you spend long periods of time on welfare and have no work you get demoralised and feel worthless.
Look up Bob Woodson, civil rights icon currently doing exactly what you asked within the black community
Hello, Scandinavia speaking here. This is just bs you are saying, we are living proof of that. Support single mothers all you can, free healthcare, and children have of single mothers do 10x better than were you are from with hustling to find some psycho male to move into the house. Life is less stress and they be very fast on the job market again. Greeting from the countries that are in top10 of all lists when it comes to quality of life. JP is a christian charlatan.
@@MrSchiff74 Who pays for the "free" Healthcare for the single mothers ? Not the Psycho Males is it ? I have a list of countries that are in the top ten in people who believe they're in the top ten when they're not... Scandanavia tops that list... It also tops the list in heathens.
@@MrSchiff74 Hello Scandinavia, but, ethno-cultural-racial trend-characteristics are crucial, possibly at an instrinsic/genetic level,… but you didn't address the ethno-cultural-racial matter,…. especially to consider relatively homogenous-ethno-racial majority populations within a primary cultural area.
These two are incredible! Im proud that my hometown of Providence, Rhode Island is now the residence of this great man!
I like Heather and her books very much. I came across Glenn about a year ago and I’m extremely happy I did. Two great people with intellectual integrity.
What a delightful conversation! They fly over and then dive into so many interesting topics. This is like watching two ospreys fishing: circling above for a bit, then SWOOSH!!! dive into the lake and catch their fish. I loved everything: the amount of ground they covered, they literary references, the vocabulary both the colloquial and the elegant, the analysis, the conclusions!!!! One of the best dialogues!
You’re not too shabby yourself with words, Mr. naturalist LOL
"The Mournful Recitation of the Platitudes"
Which bear REPEATING
Can we just have meritocracy.
Honestly I don’t like the fact I am seeing more racism towards whites. I don’t really want to go down the identity politics thing but if this racism towards whites goes on them I am going to be forced to go down this route just to protect myself. It’s a dark future when you go away from meritocracy.
simply amen
I hate having to say this.... but as a brown man. I completely agree with you.
My family came to the west because it was the free world. Where anyone with the willingness to do the work could achieve anything. Now all of a sudden its become anything but.
Kantianism is the dominant philosophy in academia and there is no way to know what is objectively a merit according to that philosophy. If you want a meritocracy. You need to reject Immanuel Kant and endorse Ayn Rand.
No. Meritocracy primarily exists in the underclasses. The entire agenda of the wealthy is to maintain class privilege. The government would have to impose meritocracy on the citizens - mostly through inheritance taxes that would be so high they would cry "socialism". The upper class do not want meritocracy for themselves, only for the lower classes. It would be nice if a level playing field were possible but it isn't. Both the left and the right are against meritocracy.
Honestly, if only white people will practice meritocracy while everyone else gangs up based on racial lines then to hell with it.
I love Glen-and Heather. Two truth tellers. What an epic show!
The sad truth: 99% of black Americans cannot watch this video objectively.
Repping the 1%.
I love being proven wrong! Glad you are here @miami kaos
That is clearly wrong since black Trump voters are several percentage points, not one. Also there are plenty of common sense black liberals and conservatives who don't follow politics as closely as we do here.
Ay about the 24 minute mark Dr. Loury launches a BRILLIANT soliloquy that makes one ache and say "Only if...
Yes! Loury perfectly articulates what Obama should have said. And it would have ruffled feathers on the left but so what. Most Americans would have loved to hear Loury's words.
@@canteluna Obama could STILL have said it, but no, instead, he and Michelle Obama who said "when they go low we go high" went below 'low'. I am so disappointed by them. I thought he was very eloquent and she gracious, now they show their true color (pun intended).
So utterly correct. Such fine speakers. From a grateful Australian.
🙌🏻
Love Australia and Australians. Always nice, unpretentious, and good.
This is America, two people discussing the issues of the day,, both looking at the pros and cons and exchanging ideas and opinions in good faith. The way the greatest democracy on the planet works.
N Mills yet churches are being closed down. People are being fired for exercising their freedom of speech and BLM and ANTIFA are intimidating , hurting people and conducting violence in the streets. This world needs to turn back to the creator and Gid that allowed this nation to exist or it won’t.
@@cheriedavis5690 -- Praise be to Gid!
Not surprisingly, the greatest amount of vitriol that I have seen comes from the left, much less the incredible level of hypocrisy.
Give me a break, if you want to make a point calling it the West is most appropriate. Much of the despicable politics in terms of all this gender and race bs is coming right from this "greatest democracy".
I don't think it's accurate to claim that USA is a greater democracy than UK. When was the last time a UK election result was violently challenged by the losing side?
Am I the only one here that has to refer to the dictionary a few times during the discussion?
t's called 'Education', George.
I just had to look up trenchant!
American culture as simply a history of racism is itself an ethnocentric perspective of Black Americans. Most Americans have been non-Black throughout history; in fact many geographic areas of the US have had little or no black presence, neither economic, cultural nor physical. 13 percent of the population does not define the culture as a whole. This should be obvious to everyone.....
Black were obtaining prosperity after WWII. Black wages grew faster than Whites from 1948 to 1969. This was a major threat to the Left and had to be reversed with the advent of Feminism and the promotion of Sexual Liberation.
@@chrissolutions A reader of Sowell. Good!
American history IS a history of racism. That said, it is mostly behind us. What is left is good old-fashioned bias, prejudice and xenophobia - which are impossible to eliminate completely. That said, the values of the American society are supposed to be Enlightenment values, based in reason, science and the sanctity of the individual (equality in opportunity and in the law). If we keep to those values as close as we can, we're on the right track. Perfection isn't possible, but trying to be decent and fair is.
@@canteluna US history as nothing but racism until recently is a gross over reach.
@@TheWhitehiker No it isn't. It is EMPIRICAL FACT. Slavery existed until 1865 and then there were Jim Crow laws and practices, arguably until the 1960s. We had red-lining even after that. LEARN HISTORY. FACTS MATTER. Simply contradicting me is not an argument.
"The devil said we’ll use their pride,
We’ll attack them from inside.
Fill their hearts with vanity,
Til their differences are all they’ll see.
Black and white, rich and poor,
To justify their holy war."
Written by Chip Davis, Douglas Johnson and Kim Williams in 2013, and recorded by Gordon Mote and later, Reba McEntire,, this verse from "Meanwhile Back At the Cross," was amazingly insightful, if not prophetic.
"Pink" Floyd interred in a gold casket, like a Chicago mobster!
Heaven. Two of my favorite thinkers sharing thoughts.
Thank you both for a worthwhile, excellent conversation.
These two are absolute treasures! Came here because I'm a HUGE Heather Mac Donald fan and now I'm also a Glenn Loury fan. Best conversation I've heard in a long time. Hats off and keep it up guys!!
Have you listened to Dr. Thomas Sowell?
@@elijahhaswings1588 Yes ma'am. Another fantastic voice that the mainstream media completely ignores on ideological grounds.
Glen and Heather if you ever read this how can it be allowed that Asians are discriminated in US college admissions. This to me is pure racism and I’m not Asian. But clearly it’s not the culmination of judge a man not by the color of his skin but by the content of his character.
Well, Glenn, despite my high level of approval for your analysis of socio-economic phenomena and race relations I think you muffed the ethical stance we all should take with regard to police violence. The past criminality of the person, who is a police suspect, is irrelevant to the immediate activity taken in any contact with the police, excepting the situation where the policeman has reason to expect that individual is likely to be armed. The ethical picture is not as mixed as you seem to suggest. The police work for and and are answerable to, the public. You have no say about whether the criminal would commit his crime. Economical and social structures could be modified, perhaps, to prevent excessive criminality. But you cannot prevent common criminal acts, per se. You can demand accountability from the police. People shouldn't commit crimes. Police shouldn't have to kill unarmed people in the process of doing their work. When they do, they demonstrate perfectly that they are not good at their jobs; that they are not competent. Whether an incompetent police officer is unintelligent or immoral is a secondary question.
I have to agree with you on this. I have a lot of respect for Loury and agree with a lot of his points (most, even) but it’s clear, and was proven in court, that George Floyd was murdered. Criminal or not, that shouldn’t have happened.
Thank you so very much for being the voices that we so much needed to hear in America. Thank you for being the light of this day and age. We need more people like you! We really appreciate all your work. Keep it up!
Nobody combines intellect with heartfelt passion like Lowry. There are equally smart people, but they remain in analytical mode - he does it with the heart.
I had never heard of him but the minute he said he was a economics adviser I knew he wasn't going to have the same mindset as fellow 'intellectual ' Dr umar Johnson.
This conversation needs to get out to more people!!! Thank you for bringing it to us. Heather & Glenn are two of the best!
Yes! Why are they not on the breakfast club?
Glenn and Heather are not only National Treasurs but they should be heard in the rest of the World .. Brillant conversation ! Many thanks.
Love both of these people! And they have no clue who I am. Ha ha...
Glen, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. We have equal treatment before the law and if the rapist cannot get off because he raped a slut, then in George's case, the cop cannot get off just because George had a criminal record. That is the first point. Second, BLM is trying to hold cops accountable who murder unarmed citizens. Why? Because we can see with our own eyes who needs to be held accountable. Now, Glen, your objection to cops being held accountable is that some unknown person is not being held accountable for the murders they commit. Are you kidding? You first have to determine who did the murder, no? And whose jobs is that, Glen? Why, the f*cking cops! Glen, please, stop, drop and think, please. QED
Extremely relatable... My long lost Dad and Mom up in here
@@danilopompey754 the fact that you think you've seen everything you need to see to make such a damning judgment is simply terrifying. I'm so grateful we have a presumption of innocence and a right to a trial by jury of our peers in this country--your attitude would place us permanently back in Salem
@@danilopompey754 have some respect please. We're past the mudslinging and getting into substantive discourse. What evidence do you have for the outrageous claim that black cops don't shoot whites? In officer involved fatalities, the race of the decedent does not predict the race of the officer according to a very recent paper by David Johnson. I also did not see evidence for your three to four times the rate claim. A 2017 paper by Roland Fryer shows no difference between blacks and whites likelihood of being killed by police after conditioning for rates of participation in crime.
@@danilopompey754 wow dude. I hope you feel better about yourself now! At least 75% of the things you've said about me so far have been false. I'm not going to waste any time defending myself though since we're both just strangers on the internet. As for the substantive questions you've asked, I thought you were providing a damning judgment without sufficient evidence on the officers involved in the Breonna Taylor and/or George Floyd cases. If you weren't, this was a giant misunderstanding. It seems we both agree that no damning judgments have been made by either of us without sufficient evidence
My liberal white friends do not know this information. They stop at the New York Times. Very frustrating.
13:09 important point...And I could’ve watched this for four hours...just great
"systemic racism" yet Asian Americans are at the top of the pyramid of income and education. This is of course is ignored by the SJWs.
About minute 50: Glenn said that there is something to the argument that presenting critics with your accomplishments is a good argument, Johann Goethe said:
'Against criticism one can neither protect nor defend oneself; one must act in spite of it, and gradually it will end.'
( _Gegen die Kritik kann man sich weder schützen noch wehren; man muß ihr zum Trutz handeln, und das läßt sie sich nach und nach gefallen._ )
That last phrase is difficult to put into smooth English. It could also mean something like, 'And at last time after time they like you.'
Glenn is right. It's difficult, it even might not be fair, but it's also the way of the world. Many blacks have shown this way to be right. Listen to them.
Good conversation. I never watch TV. There are many good podcasts.
Two national treasures. Such a breath of fresh air to see such an honest conversation. God bless both Glenn and Heather!!!!
A Hispanic teacher who taught the problem middle school kids told me how they didn't want to learn, because they were taught to reject anything created by the "white man". The numbers of graduating black kids are dreadful and as mentioned many times from many sources, blacks are given rated grades so that they can make entrance. This causes graduate numbers to be horrendous, because kids who would not have been able to get in, now get in and they simply do not have the knowledge or skills. Also, on the equity platform. This is very dangerous. For example, to be a fireman, the physical requirements had to be lowered because most women simply could not pass them. What happens then, is now men would not have been able to pass, can now pass. I have no doubt that there have been injuries and deaths because people who simply are not effective in the job failed. All of these agendas are sacrificing the lives and livelihoods of a great many people, simply for the sake of being "socially correct". Tragic.
56:05 Glenn on Biden rapprochement
Oh sure. That, or civilian insurgency.
Absolutely stellar! But I'm saddened by their bleak assessment of the outcome of the coming election.
Truly Open-minded race convos are so needed right now, so appreciate the video. In the last video on my channel, I go deep into discussing color blindness, & how it honors each's individual experiences/identity way more than the opposite of seeing color & assuming something from there about someone. I hope videos like ours inspire people to think critically about how they view the world
This was a very unhelpful discussion lacking Glenn's usually helpful reconstruction of arguments he disagrees with. I watch Glenn and John every episode and this was only an hour-long complaining fest. As a journalist who weighs opposing diagnoses of problems and the trade-offs of policy and culture, I did not find that this was a good dialogue for people looking to learn more about these topics.
What??? Only an hour!!!!???
Yes, I thought the same thing!
Glenn never goes over an hour, hahaha. His one flaw. I'm always like "the conversation is just getting good" and Glenn says, "Well, I have someplace to be." Such a goober.
people arent born equal and its okay
Please you two get back together as soon as possible. That was fantastic!
What is a statue? It is an icon, anchoring meaning and association and memory.
We know America’s history isn’t fully told. Instead of tearing down statues-ERECT statues (black) that anchors and teaches history, evokes memory and meaning. Blacks contributed to the making of history. Some we know others we don’t. Case in point Bass Reeves whose exploits and adventures are the inspiration for the fictional character The Lone Ranger
Facts: events occurred. We can’t erase it by tearing down icons, thinking that will solve the problem.
I would support a Loury - Mac Donald ticket!!! The Country desperately needs smart, rationale, tempered leadership!
There is a 1946 video on despotism and it points out the signs, one of which is making the villains your heroes. I was reminded of that when watching this-worshipping criminals as martyrs is nothing more than despotism.
-- Do you have the title of that video? Thx.
Lol. Glenn obviously has an opinion about Candace Owens but wants to stay classy and not speak ill of her, which I respect. However, I am curious what he would say. Though, I think I already know. She's brave and dedicated, but she's deep in the conservative politics and plays many of the same games as the left.
I suspect he would urge her to increase her academic rigor, but your assessment is correct.
@@mrbattowel, r you kidding? Glen is brain dead on this issue. [Glen, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. We have equal treatment before the law and if the rapist cannot get off because he raped a slut, then in George's case, the cop cannot get off just because George had a criminal record. That is the first point. Second, BLM is trying to hold cops accountable who murder unarmed citizens. Why? Because we can see with our own eyes who needs to be held accountable. Now, Glen, your objection to cops being held accountable is that some unknown person is not being held accountable for the murders they commit. Are you kidding? You first have to determine who did the murder, no? And whose jobs is that, Glen? Why, the f*cking cops! Glen, please, stop, drop and think, please. QED]
Two of my favorite people who I learn from every moment I spend listening. Thank you both for your contribution to humanity and society.
Glen/Heather - Love, love, love you both. Been an admirer of Heather for a number of years, noticing her penchant for Truth and evidence and, her willingness to speak it out under duress of opposing the mainstream narrative, a heroine for sure.
Hate to oversimplify but must as a foundation. BLM co-founder is seen on film in video conversation with a colleague saying of the group ideology, "we are trained Marxists."
They are less interested in black lives as a genuine cause than they are in using them as a victim group to leverage guilt and blame and get contributions from white lead corporations, enrich themselves, and contribute to Democrat parties as the Dems are allies, and turn the country down the road to Socialism through outright revolution if needed, and to absolute destruction as we all are concerned about with good reason.
Their great leap forward came with the Obama Admin, whom I believe has strong Marxist tendencies and worse, is an Islamophile to boot. Another group that the Democrat Party has allied with if you haven't noticed and the press has also turned a blind eye to the atrocities happening in Europe and around the globe by adherents to the Sharia', is Islam in our midst.
Add in G Soros to the group and you have the orchestrating of chaos as we have all seen.
To conclude this brief critique I'll sadly say the Democrat Party has become the enemy within and has powerful and dangerous allies in Islam, the Press, Hollywood, Academia and the cohorts of graduates over the last 30+ years, marinated, as Ms Heather exclaimed in a poisonous ideology.
The job to hold onto freedom and our Constitution is going to be a terrible struggle. We have Truth on our side and hopefully God ( for us who believe there is a God). Either way, we all have to try and be involved in some small way to spread the Truth of the Goodness of America and the West, admitting flaws, but pressing the overall benefits to all mankind.
I'm a 70 carpenter and hope I live to se the success of the redirecting of the West to its founding values.
Very best to you both, you are very much appreciated.
I believe Dr. Thomas Sowell has serious issues with that particular conclusion for one.
Thank you for this cogent, coherent, rational and thought provoking conversation.
legends
Surprised that Heather is so sure of a Biden Victory. I wish Glen had brought up the Black support for Trump in 2020. That measure will be key as to whether Biden or Trump will be sworn in on January 20th.
I really do wonder if Glenn is voting Trump this time
On CBS This Morning today,Gayle King said that Magic Johnson said due to George Floyd and Jacob Blake events he feels a little fear whenever he sees a police officer. I assume that is real, but he would be more likely to be killed by lightning. What to do?
That is the tough conversation. The feeling that some people are feeling ARE real. However, how much of it is unfounded in reality and are irrelevant in comparison to other things? Like example lightning (like you said), if I remember right is maybe 3 times more likely by the stats to kill someone than the cops. What measures should be taken to stop something is much more deadly by the stats then the police? Who is to decide what is or should be more important when it comes to saving life than the others? Like Heather rambled off just a few black children that died to violence. Those numbers will magnitudes higher outnumber blacks killed by cops. Who is the arbiter of that not being more important or more needing to be prevented than cops killing black people (which again, most are not innocent in the least bit not that it justifies)? Just alone by that 1 minute of a Heather shouldn’t Magic have more fear of his children dying than himself by cops?
This applies to to all current topics like COVID as well. In 2017, 647,457 people in America died of heart disease. Yet there is no daily counter on something that will far exceed COVID deaths. Unless someone has heart disease, no one is worried about heart disease. Definitely nowhere in the realm of fear of COVID. Who is to decide what should have a ticker every time someone dies of something yet not the other?
A million questions can be asked. The easy answer is fear created by certain people. People have a right to fear. Fear is usually justified. However, what amount of fear in any certain situation is a measured amount of fear compared to the subject at hand. Most of the time the fear far outweighs the subject or situation at hand. The things that should truly be feared people tend to have no fear of at all.
@@amorfati4927 we need to reign in the mainstream media. We need laws that hold them accountable for pushing lies and misinformation.
One current example is how they are lying about b lack unarmed deaths by cops and this has led to widescale riots and deaths.
Until we can start holding the media accountable for their criminal propoganda we cannot fix this problem.
@@workhorse7134 I agree - I just don't know how you hold media accountable for being complicit in CRT and propaganda (new york times is a huge perpetrator) when it's important to also preserve freedom of the press. Blatant hatred toward Trump does not make for unbiased journalism. It's a tough problem.
This is probably the best commentary on current issues I've heard on TH-cam
So we're doomed...
Pretty much unless we get a succession of Trumpian presidencies.
Unfortunately the Trump admin have only recently started getting up to speed on the culture. Trump went for the economy, because that's what he excels at but his admin should have been far more aggressive in dealing with the culture.
To be fair he has been under constant attack by the Democrats and the deep state so its understandable that his admin have had to play defence so much while still rebuilding America, that they've not paid enough attention to the leftist takeover of all the institutions.
Good combination! Saw the guest and I couldn't click fast enough!
Heather is a national treasure.
You must be a comedian
I'm a huge fan of Glenn and Heather. This is wonderful! Subbed.
The mistake of Heather is to assume that the gap can be closed by dint of sheer hard work. The underlying problem is due to cognitive differences, in particular, differences in executive function and impulse control. The difficulty is society has up until now not found a way to alter these outcomes in people en masse. This has resulted in the left hiding behind structural racism and the right saying you just need to try harder.
The poor outcomes for blacks is caused by their poor metabolic and immune health especially during preconception. Addressing this would result in significant cognitive gains leading to improved executive function and impulse control which are essential for academic attainment and deferring pleasure and marital relationships.
For blacks to succeed they will need leaders within the community to be exemplars of good metabolic and immune health and to declare its importance as well as providing guidance on how it can be achieved.
Unsanctioned drugs shouldn’t be criminal! It’s healthcare!!!! Being sick isn’t murder, rapist, or thieves!!!
Heather McDonald is an absolute tour de force of the West’s virtues. Simply inspiring.
When she says she is moving to the realms of conspiracy to explain why the country is destroying itself, I get very worried. When our best minds can't explain what is going on, then maybe there is a malicious subversive element at play.
Such a great conversation. An example of a people overcoming discrimination - the Irish in America and the U.K. overcame appalling discrimination.
Not the same
I clicked out after “Candace Owen’s showed herself to be one of the most contagious people *in history*.” 16:30
Thank you for the perspectives and information. Looking forward to another conversation.
Our country is in trouble....we have become too tolerant.....we all choose our destiny....we can blame others for our issues or become responsible citizens....
Btw, Mr. Loury, the Attorney General of the United States, not the President of the United States, is the chief law enforcement officer of the country.
The issue of delayed gratification is misleading. Poor people don't have that luxury.
Years ago, I asked on Facebook "Who is allowed to criticize the black community? Because it seems to me that even black people can't." To which the only response I received from my mostly middle-class white friend group was "Why would anyone want to?" That seems to be the presiding narrative, and why the problems that *aren't* systemic will never be solved, at least until that notion is dispelled.
At 9:25, Ms. Heather MacDonald meant to say "comprise" (not "compromise"). Those are 2 different words with different meanings. Sorry, I have Asperger's.
I happen to disagree about Biden winning. I feel there are many more vocal Trump supporters than in 2016... any many who've flipped since 2016
In 1996, a black woman saved a suspected KKK member from a beating. It was a noble act, but she frames the rest of her experiences that day as an example of police brutality. But I was there when she saved the guy, I videotaped the incident, and I just posted it publicly -- at my you tube channel -- for the first time. Her action deserves kudos, but her framing of police brutality during the rest of the day is "fake news." I videotaped her actions later, and her recollections of them is false. This, too, I posted at my you tube channel.
I love Glenn Loury and Heather Mac Donald's conversation. BUT, it doesn't seem clear to me--are they exonerating the very real crimes of Western civilization? I know how great classical music, art, and literature is. Beethoven's and Wagner's is my favorite music to listen to. However, as an Indian, I am aware of the Western history of colonization. Mahatma Gandhi was a hero for achieving Indian independence from British rule. Should we gloss over this? Is it as simple as a cartoon narrative--Western civilization is ONLY good, and other civilizations/cultures are barbaric to bring questions of grievance? How do you defend a civilization that is guilty of heinous crimes in history?
I disagree that it is only academic culture telling us to hate our past. It is people who know world history beyond just a simple narrative like "Western civ=evidence, reason, moral good, etc." So, in conclusion, it is actual facts that give Western civilization a questionable history, even with all its peaks, like great scientific achievements and great humanistic (art) achievements.
Law and order starts in the home. If these people didn't experience rules, order and ways to behave properly in the home, it's doubtful any POTUS, Mayor or Cop is going to make them "good" law abiding citizens.
Bring back the fathers and the two-parent family. Support that structure, instead of destroying it with social (I'd argue ANTI social) programs.
No matter what color, we have a crisis of too many unskilled laborers, and not enough jobs. IMHO
Heather MacDonald's right to share information, that not all folks like, must be protected.
These two people, represent most of us, regardless of ethnicity. The silence of the majority on these and many other issues, is why the country is crumbling before our very eyes. 😎
There was a time in America when lawlessness was becoming a major problem. The solution was "The Great Awakening". "The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately sick; who can understand it?" (Jeremiah 17:9). When a nation becomes lawless as it is now, the only solution is God's grace through the Gospel of Christ to awaken the conscience of the nation just like during the First Great Awakening. Sadly, only few remember it...
It’s all about managed decline. If the political elite are making twice the amount on the way down than they made on the way up, the system is working perfectly. -Adam Curtis
No matter your colour or race ,it is a sure thing that the higher you climb the elite financial ladder or ascend the dizzying heights of academic superiority, the only colour you will see, as you look down upon those you left behind, will be $green$ !
In reality, the only human divide is that of the "haves" and "have nots".
Americans often view the world through their own very short sighted lense. Division and sepratism is rampant in most societies, societies that are largely of the same race/colour.
Question to the left: do you have any concern about the vicious criminalize who prey on black people and communities regularly? Is this not a concern? Why is it ok for someone to be predatory if they have black skin?
The FBI estimated there are 117,000 gang bankers in Chicago!
Glenn, ascribing wanton bias in the media to Trump hatred is woefully misguided. Recall the vitriol directed at Romney, and before him Bush, and on goes the list all the way back to Goldwater. Ascribe this to Antonio Gramsci and the long march, not lightning rods.
When we have idiots like Nick cannon saying that marriage is a European institution and doesn't quite convert over to the African-American model. We need conservatives to challenge them all the way. There needs to be more blk conservatives being more vocal. We never have Tatum or Candace Owen on the breakfast club or hot 93 it's always Dr umar Johnson or other militant voices. Why does vlad never invite this man here instead of Lord jamar all the time?
Heather - two issues regarding George Floyd: One, the officer involved deserves what he got. Two, George Floyd repeatedly exposed him to dangerous situations most of his life. Like going to play on a rock cliff every day, odds are that there might be frost on the rock one day.
There is no doubt if you are a young man in Baltimore Youngstown Cleveland Detroit and you got a crap education you are behind the 8 ball . Now tack on a kid or 2 an arrest record and it gets harder. But once you realize you can make it and on a daily basis move to succeed you can make it. You might have to work a crap job and save money by living in your mom's spare room for a couple years so you can move to a place that is hiring workers and will train. Yes you HAVE TO SACRIFICE. you cant work a minimum wage job and save money and look good to the honnies and homies on the corner. You got to decide. Do I sacrifice for my future or do I roll the dice for fast cash and sell dope. There are many who get the fast cash the fast girl the fast kids to feed but there are few who can work that lifestyle into something that lasts any time at sll.but you find a way to get a trade or a skilled education and you get the real girl who becomes your wife and mother to YOUR CHILDREN. But when it gets hard realize it won't be hard forever and its lots easier with God on your side in your thoughts and actions. Dont be afraid to do without and save money to start a small business or get training. You start a business washing and detailing cars and you'll be surprised who you will meet
Heather and Glenn make a good point; why aren't the media covering both sides? However, the Right covers me side and that just happens to be the side of these two folks. "Two wrongs don't make a right" I don't think Heather and Glenn are attempting to strike levity and truth but I didn't expect them to either.
As a contractor I work with many different people. Some assignments go better than others. Twice have I had to endure lengthy ectures by a client that a mix-up was a result of my white privilege. In essence, heir accusation was because I'm white I can get away with being incompetent and lazy. Both times these racist rants came from successful black women.
Distraction so the real corruption and denigration aren't observed!
WOW! Talking with pausing so the other person can make their point and not talking over each other. Is this what respectful dialogue looks like?
Oh ffs, any honest Jew would tell you that they have not embraced Western / European culture, except to the degree that it can be manipulated to the advantage of the ethno cult identity. The very behavior that has been criminalized and projected upon so falled 'white' peoples. The entire ideology, be it on a racial, an ethnic, or a religious framing is entirely about the resistance to assimilation and only exists after 2 millennia within host cultures because it has been so resistent. Moreover, it is to their advantage to undermine cultural cohesion of the host cultures. The black community is but a proxy for that endeavor. Get effing honest ffs.
Wow lady the call out on folks you don’t like is cringeworthy and say that racists have no affect on the career trajectory of a black worker is ridiculous. States have just passed laws on anti-discrimination against black peoples for their natural hair because racism in the workplace exists. And not to mention the pay gap.
Girls--- Heather's boycut looks so cute on her. Like her hair style. Looks so nice
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I love Glenn, but that was such an off base prediction 😂
McDonald has some issues with religion
One thing she said I have an issue with is when she said that the problem of fatherless homes was attributable to black men not becoming ‘acceptable mates’ and that is frustrating to me because if the men are not acceptable mates were are the babies coming from ? There are lots of poor families of other races who are not middle class professional men , a Mexican cook a Vietnamese waiter a Filipino security guard all can be married with children black the Blackman is not an acceptable mate unless he’s lawyer or a doctor or a hedge fund manager? The women decide who to have babies with if there are no acceptable mates you just choose to become a single mother ? The women scoff at the bus driver or the mail man as a husband but prefer to struggle alone with house full of children? Make that make sense to me.