I bought a low C bass clarinet for $500! (Accent BC731C Bass Clarinet)

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  • @leonply
    @leonply 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Perhaps it's an "after-hours-made-at-the-factory" which produces the bodies and keys of the Lyrique 925C Low C Bass designed by Tom Ridenour? Unlike the Ridenour Lyrique line, the quality control in the copies isn't there, of course, and , the pads and cork were probably awful for you to work over, but that design is amazing. Tom was the designer for Leblanc and Selmer-Conn bought Leblanc, so the Selmers of today tend to be to his acoustical design and sound gorgeous. You did a fantastic job making that bass play and sound wonderful.
    *edit - added a bit to be certain that it was clear that I meant that it was the Bass which you performed the miracle on which was under par, and not the Ridenour products.

    • @krane15
      @krane15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Once you've made the mold, all you need do is push the button to produce another copy. Its the inferior materials and lack of fine tuning that keeps the price so low. Fine if you have the knowledge and ability to make the precision after stamping adjustments. But most of us, aren't technicians.

  • @Clarinetfanz
    @Clarinetfanz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Wow, $500 for a low C Bass Clarinet is relatively cheap!

    • @krane15
      @krane15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He didn't include the cost of materials and workmanship needed to get it into playing order.

  • @Thaddeus_.R_Maise
    @Thaddeus_.R_Maise ปีที่แล้ว +2

    some times im watching your videos and i think they were made in 2016 to only see they were made in 2020

  • @edepillim
    @edepillim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I bought an Eb for £150 new. It was half price from Germany. Got a decent mouthpiece and barrel plus Leblanc bell. Altered the keys a bit to fit my fingers. Some keys too close. It plays nicely in tune so l am pleased.. l also fixed up the the Vito Alto that had a crack near the mid socket joint. Super glue plus a modified marine quality ring clamp. Plays well. I overcame the very slight play in the tenon by using heat shrink tube of appropriate size.. l love that tool you have for the tone holes. Where could l get one please. Many thanks. Andrew

  • @thomascohen9924
    @thomascohen9924 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had an Accent alto years ago. It played okay.

  • @Tikisune
    @Tikisune 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just bought a vento low c bass clarinet on reverb and the guy selling it said they sent it to the shop and got new pads. I hope it plays good! Wish me luck!!!

    • @ripesoda7003
      @ripesoda7003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How'd it go my guy?

    • @Tikisune
      @Tikisune 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ripesoda7003 It works great! Better than the ones at my old high school.😂

  • @stevenshockley4237
    @stevenshockley4237 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have it and I hope someday to either get it better or get a better one. Clarinet is a side thing for me and I more than lack the money for a low C bass that isn't the Accent. I was charged $2000 and paid it off for 2 years. It's currently out of adjustment lol

  • @mbofficial8577
    @mbofficial8577 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks great! Great job as always!

  • @Braziliense1984
    @Braziliense1984 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, Jared, have you ever tried the wooden Moresky low C bass clarinet? It's definitely a bargain but I've never seen anyone talking about it. Thanks for your helpful videos

  • @carbonated_milk9903
    @carbonated_milk9903 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now I know why my school has a lot of these

  • @samuelhingley7066
    @samuelhingley7066 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing Video Like Always

  • @w0rm559
    @w0rm559 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Servicing a bass clarinet sounds like a pain in the butt tbh, but I’ll have to do it at some point :,)

  • @Michael-ig8ih
    @Michael-ig8ih 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you repair these Chinese instruments? I have a wooden Eb clarinet that I got from China. The tone is pretty nice, but it leaks air like crazy.

  • @abedinsubashi
    @abedinsubashi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should have done a before and after play test

    • @Jared_De_Leon
      @Jared_De_Leon  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Before I couldn't even get it to play whatsoever! I'm not sure how it even left the factory with the problems it had...

  • @vacuumlover1
    @vacuumlover1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Have you looked at the Royal global max yet?

    • @Jared_De_Leon
      @Jared_De_Leon  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, I own one!

  • @MissTEO1
    @MissTEO1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is that a DIY tool you used to sand the tone holes? If so, what did you use to make it and would it work on wood? Just did my first clarinet overhaul but one of the tone holes has minor Imperfections.

    • @Jared_De_Leon
      @Jared_De_Leon  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s a stone bit from a rotary tool. I talk more about it in my video where I fix my G clarinet. Yeah you can use it on any material, but you want to fill in the chip with superglue and wood dust, which is what you see me doing to the thumb hole. You can also buy tonehole files but they’re insanely expensive and don’t work any better.

  • @menotyou4289
    @menotyou4289 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Holy cow...how much would such an extensive repair cost? As bad as so much work would be, it still might be a better deal overall. Like a fixer-upper house!

    • @Jared_De_Leon
      @Jared_De_Leon  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If I was billing someone for this work so far I would be well over $500...

    • @menotyou4289
      @menotyou4289 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jared_De_Leon haha fair enough. Although having bought a cheap sax in a similar situation I'm thinking you definitely lost the bell curve lotto in terms of getting the worst of the batch. My sax could use maybe $100 of adjustments (and even then that's only for the bottom minor 3rd.

  • @ripesoda7003
    @ripesoda7003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sketchy price but damn that was worth it

  • @Kalashnikirby
    @Kalashnikirby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for that excellent review. I'm interested in these because I could recommend one to a colleague who needs a new one. Would you say the keywork is as solid (once adjusted) as with a Ridenour or Kessler?
    There are "Moresky" labeled basses on Aliexpress for 800-900$ that seem similiar to Kessler. I wonder if there are really worse Chinese basses, but it seems lime they can be good instruments (when adjusted correctly..!)
    I wouldn't mind putting some work into that Instrument!

    • @Jared_De_Leon
      @Jared_De_Leon  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldn’t recommend it, the Kessler seems to be built much better.

    • @Kalashnikirby
      @Kalashnikirby 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jared_De_Leon Thanks, but could you elaborate? From the pictures alone, I couldn't really tell if they differ in terms of quality.

    • @Jared_De_Leon
      @Jared_De_Leon  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Christian L the key work is much better on the Kessler. It may look the same but the Kessler is definitely the more we’ll built of the two.

  • @krane15
    @krane15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So what is the cost of the work you put into getting it to a playable level, since that represents to true cost of buying a clarinet like this. Also, materials -- are the keys/pads so soft they will need constant adjustments and/or replacement to keep the instrument in working order.

  • @ericcheng3143
    @ericcheng3143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this bass chinese? Check key quality, the alloy is not like selmer or vito or yamaha as far as I know.

  • @chrisr715
    @chrisr715 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What number reed are you using? Sounds a bit soft.

  • @benjaminfalcone2074
    @benjaminfalcone2074 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kinda planning on getting one myself, but do you think it's to much of a risk? Not much of a handyman and would not like to have do any work on it

    • @Jared_De_Leon
      @Jared_De_Leon  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      An Accent? Why not get a Kessler instead?

    • @benjaminfalcone2074
      @benjaminfalcone2074 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jared_De_Leon OK, thanks, haven't really looked much into this yet.
      I play the sax, but I would like to play bass clarinet too.
      Thanks

  • @kevinngo9138
    @kevinngo9138 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where'd you find one of these for 500? I'd happily buy a broken low C for that much

    • @Jared_De_Leon
      @Jared_De_Leon  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I pretty much buy everything on eBay

    • @kevinngo9138
      @kevinngo9138 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, i gotta look on eBay more often! You found a hidden gem

  • @ashtonj.legerski952
    @ashtonj.legerski952 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I bought one for myself, could I send it to you so you could fix it up right? with proper payment of course!

    • @Jared_De_Leon
      @Jared_De_Leon  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, feel free to contact me on Instagram or Facebook about that

  • @RichardMigneron
    @RichardMigneron 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I gather it is nickel plated, right ?
    What do you use to polish nickel ? How can I keep my nickel plating from turning black or is it even possible ?

    • @Jared_De_Leon
      @Jared_De_Leon  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I use "Mother's" polish. All you can do is wash your hands before playing, wipe down the keys with a microfiber cloth after playing and lightly polish them maybe once every other month

  • @Instrumentjesus
    @Instrumentjesus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found a couple 200-300$ bass clarinet’s on eBay and they looked to be in decent condition should I buy one (I’m a French horn player so i do play instruments)

    • @Jared_De_Leon
      @Jared_De_Leon  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They're unlikely to be playable without work unfortunately.

    • @Instrumentjesus
      @Instrumentjesus ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jared_De_Leon I think my band director could send it in some kid dropped his baritone on the floor and got it repaired for cheep

    • @Jared_De_Leon
      @Jared_De_Leon  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Instrumentjesus just be aware that a bass clarinet overhaul can be $500-$1000. If you can find a cheap Bundy they can be good instruments.

    • @Instrumentjesus
      @Instrumentjesus ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jared_De_Leon ok thanks for the help have a good day

  • @marcomazzini
    @marcomazzini 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🥳🥳🥳

  • @erezk2170
    @erezk2170 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Jared. How many hours of work did you put into it?

    • @Jared_De_Leon
      @Jared_De_Leon  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Probably put a good 5 hours of work into it.

  • @Brenglezote
    @Brenglezote 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what is the name of the background music

    • @Jared_De_Leon
      @Jared_De_Leon  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it’s something like Jazz in Paris. It’s part of the TH-cam free audio library.

    • @Brenglezote
      @Brenglezote 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jared_De_Leon thanks, i found it

  • @zthebee9063
    @zthebee9063 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    how do you finger a low c? I'm getting a bass clarinet and I'm getting a low c model and most fingering charts don't have that note

    • @seltzerwater1013
      @seltzerwater1013 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      tsunami gang periodt depends on the instrument, usually the lowest thumb key I think

    • @zthebee9063
      @zthebee9063 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      SeltzerWater 101 ohhhh oki thank youu

  • @stevenshockley4237
    @stevenshockley4237 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have this bass :)

    • @capellovici
      @capellovici 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too and I'm very happy !! 😍

    • @TheEvo01
      @TheEvo01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@capellovici Where I can find one of those????

  • @matthew0757
    @matthew0757 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I went to look at the accent website I found out accent makes low eb basses as well.
    However I noticed that they made a Contrabass model. (I also noticed it looked very similar to the vito.)
    Would you reccomend the contrabass?
    accentmusicalinstruments.com/products/accent-cb741bb-contrabass-clarinet/

    • @abedinsubashi
      @abedinsubashi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How much is the Contrabass model?

  • @jhaugsne
    @jhaugsne 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are the keys made of soft metal?

    • @Jared_De_Leon
      @Jared_De_Leon  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They're actually quite stiff, other than the fit and finish the quality of the metalwork was quite good.

  • @tylerhicks621
    @tylerhicks621 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So not worth the buy for someone without the resources to do what you did?

    • @Jared_De_Leon
      @Jared_De_Leon  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah pretty much. I don't think most techs would even want to work on it.

    • @Metalpazallteway
      @Metalpazallteway 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Jared_De_Leon Hi there would you recommend any links for the same product. Also would you be willing to Re work on one if I found the same product? I just don't have a 2k - 3k to Spare on a Buffet Tosca product.

    • @Jared_De_Leon
      @Jared_De_Leon  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Metalpazallteway unfortunately this was an "open box" instrument so $500 is not the normal price. The cheapest low C bass I would recommend is the Kessler.

    • @Metalpazallteway
      @Metalpazallteway 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Jared_De_Leon Do you have a recomendable link? Thank you btw