For those people saying John Higgins should have been banned for life, he was only disciplined for failing to report an approach to try to get him to fix matches. He was never disciplined for match fixing of any sort. Stephen Lee was a blatant cheat, and was the architect of his own downfall. Mark King was exactly the same. Anybody that watched the frame where Mark King was desperately trying to lose knows how obvious it was. Lee, if he made it through to getting a tour card, will never be any kind of a force in the game today as the sport is light years away from the one he knew back in his day. The same goes for Mark King, who was never much of a player anyway. Anybody caught cheating in the way these 2 were should be banned for life, no argument. The chinese players werd rooted out and banned, and one of those was a Masters winner. For the sport to remain credible, there can be no exceptions.
@adrianpollard2763, Higgins should have been given a lengthy ban. He was caught on camera arranging for a match to be fixed. His argument that he felt threatened and therefore complied with the people he spoke to doesn't wash with me. I think he got away with it because he was world No 1 at the time and Barry Hearn had just taken over snooker. Higgins' agent was the fall guy and got banned for life
@@DJMDLM1 He was given the correct suspension. He failed to report the approach. As for the 'video', if you do some research on the investigation, it's apparent it was edited in such a way to make him look bad - all to sell newspapers. This was the News of the World remember, the weekend version of The Sun. A hive of utter scumbaggery. Higgins has never been involved in any match fixing either before or after this incident. Which tells its own story.
The fact he was that good he placed bets against big names indicating he was confident enough to beat them and the control you need to get the scores bang on is insane . Waste of talent .
@@Cmcc342 He was caught before he could go through with fixing the game, then he played stupid pretending to be scared of them. Absolute tosh he's a lying scum bag !!!
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I'm pretty sure that Lee was to blame for his own downfall. He has endured the 12 years ban so now it is down to him whether he gets back on the baize, or not. The Chinese players were banned for life, there does seem to be some differing on punishments handed out.
Exactly. Some guilty people will eventually own up and admit it. The fact Lee is still insistent he didn't do anything, Is a little strange @@itnaklipse1669
Very sad that such a talented player should feel the need to go down that route. I hope that World Snooker now has a confidential hotline for any players now being coerced or contacted by any shady group. Too good of a player to make obvious errors as shown in the clips here. However, there are others such as Higgins (as alluded in other comments) who should also have been far more heavily punished. The potential for others to fall foul still remains - you only have to look at the Chinese players who have been done - and this will still be a problem moving forward. If only Lee had shown contrition and cooperated with the investigators he might have had less of a ban. Crazy that such a capable player should be daft enough to take the brown envelopes.
Stop recycling these shitty videos with no new information. There's literally nothing in here that hasn't been said ad nauseum since the day Lee was banned.
Lee ruined his own career nobody else
Amazing how people think Higgins was only ever offered match fixing once..
If you think Higgins is completely innocent you're naive
And you know differently of course.
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Stephen lee looks like he ate stephen maguire 😂😂
For those people saying John Higgins should have been banned for life, he was only disciplined for failing to report an approach to try to get him to fix matches. He was never disciplined for match fixing of any sort. Stephen Lee was a blatant cheat, and was the architect of his own downfall. Mark King was exactly the same. Anybody that watched the frame where Mark King was desperately trying to lose knows how obvious it was. Lee, if he made it through to getting a tour card, will never be any kind of a force in the game today as the sport is light years away from the one he knew back in his day. The same goes for Mark King, who was never much of a player anyway. Anybody caught cheating in the way these 2 were should be banned for life, no argument. The chinese players werd rooted out and banned, and one of those was a Masters winner. For the sport to remain credible, there can be no exceptions.
@adrianpollard2763, Higgins should have been given a lengthy ban. He was caught on camera arranging for a match to be fixed. His argument that he felt threatened and therefore complied with the people he spoke to doesn't wash with me. I think he got away with it because he was world No 1 at the time and Barry Hearn had just taken over snooker. Higgins' agent was the fall guy and got banned for life
@@DJMDLM1 He was given the correct suspension. He failed to report the approach. As for the 'video', if you do some research on the investigation, it's apparent it was edited in such a way to make him look bad - all to sell newspapers. This was the News of the World remember, the weekend version of The Sun. A hive of utter scumbaggery. Higgins has never been involved in any match fixing either before or after this incident. Which tells its own story.
John Higgins should have been banned for life
Absolute fact.
I was going to say the same thing.
On what grounds ?
Anymore stupid and you'll need watering twice a day hen.
Why? Did you actually bother to read the facts and the independent investigation?
Real shame, loved his style of play & smooth cueing action.
The fact he was that good he placed bets against big names indicating he was confident enough to beat them and the control you need to get the scores bang on is insane . Waste of talent .
enough is enough... bring Lee back he paid his dues and served his sentence
Lee has been free to come back since October.
@@adrianwright8685 True. But why did the disgraceful cheat Higgins get off lightly?
@@adrianwright8685 Why did Higgins the cheat get off lightly?
More likely to see his son Alfie playing - he's been trying his hand last few seasons at Q school.
Lee hasn't really "paid his dues" - he still owes the WST £125,000 !
The fact that he can miss a ball by making it shake in the pockets is pretty impressive.
Lets not forget john higgins also was happy to fix games...
your nose is growing
What match did he fix then ?
John Higgins wasn’t accused, charged or found guilty of match fixing. He was actually charged with not reporting an approach
He was never charged with match fixing only not reporting an approach quickly enough.
@@Cmcc342 He was caught before he could go through with fixing the game, then he played stupid pretending to be scared of them. Absolute tosh he's a lying scum bag !!!
This channel is getting Mickey out of WayneAnthonyHolmes the most sensitive guy on the internet. So easy to wind him up and tease him. The guy is obsessed and in love with Judd Trump. Gets furious when you tell him Judd will never win a second world title😀😃😄😄😁😅👌
I'll be forever indebted to Ollie for introducing me to smoked kippers 🙏
Still sad and huge penalty,,, hope seeing him back soon..
Nobody with any integrity wants to see that cheating disgrace of a man back on the snooker tour
2:09 he calls nark king a legend 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
King of bottling and cheating
@@Dolek135 😂😂 he banned now too
I'm pretty sure that Lee was to blame for his own downfall. He has endured the 12 years ban so now it is down to him whether he gets back on the baize, or not. The Chinese players were banned for life, there does seem to be some differing on punishments handed out.
Not all of them. The ones who got lifetime bans were pushing younger players to join their shit. It was an example they were making of them.
Betting has destroyed the reputation of many sports. Football, cricket,tennis,boxing.snooker.
no one thinks anything of the fact that he has maintained his innocence throughout - i think there's more to the story.
Are you simple? Guilty people always "maintain their innocence." 🙄
@@markysumm72 so do the innocent. and no, guilty people do not always maintain their innocence.
Exactly. Some guilty people will eventually own up and admit it. The fact Lee is still insistent he didn't do anything, Is a little strange @@itnaklipse1669
October 2024? So there's a chance?
Very sad that such a talented player should feel the need to go down that route. I hope that World Snooker now has a confidential hotline for any players now being coerced or contacted by any shady group. Too good of a player to make obvious errors as shown in the clips here. However, there are others such as Higgins (as alluded in other comments) who should also have been far more heavily punished. The potential for others to fall foul still remains - you only have to look at the Chinese players who have been done - and this will still be a problem moving forward. If only Lee had shown contrition and cooperated with the investigators he might have had less of a ban. Crazy that such a capable player should be daft enough to take the brown envelopes.
50 well passed his prime... Ronnie "hold my beer"
I don’t watch live sport anymore,just highlights does me it’s all fixed.
SOMEONE MUST HAVE GRASSED HIM UP AT SOME POINT AND GOT THE BALL ROLLING.
HE WOULDN'T HAVE GOT BANNED IF THERE WAS NO SOLID EVIDENCE.
"They ruined my career..."
No no no no no
I think you'll find you ruined it yourself
And John Higgins caught red handed still playing should have been banned for life !
Is Mark King a legend?
Isn't he unbanned soon?
He is lucky ,he has another chance
Lee you ruined your career no one else you did
All lies. He was framed by someone powerful who wanted to end his career.
Absolute fact.
Stephen Lee ♥
@@Wicknim so who was that then?
Moriarty
Yes, very unfair.
Nothing new here !
Hate all these ai voiceover videos
Stop recycling these shitty videos with no new information. There's literally nothing in here that hasn't been said ad nauseum since the day Lee was banned.
Old boring nothing news!
Do you know what Jack Lisowski has won? All we know is Jack turned pro over a decade ago. We need an answer as to what Jack has won.
Correction. You ruined your carrier 😊