Have been a Desperadoes fan since 1962, their music has always been impressive from the days of Kitchener 'Mama this Mas!' Listening to this year's performance, still I'm very much impressed & wish you guys better luck next time. If any ties for 1st it should have been Massy's & Starlift.
Despers gave a great showing. But this is old-school Panorama. The top bands have taken it to the next level in the arrangements! Despers hopefully will get there in 2025. But still, if yuh is a Despers fan, yuh should still hold yuh head up high.
..but its old school arrangement and arrangers controlling the higher placings in the panorama ...may be the new school would get on board next year...it makes sense not so ?
@@mangojulie123 you really found that approach NEW...please listen to woman on the bass. that approach cold be considered NEW then , not in 2024 . This years arrangement was a great old school arrangement .
@@mikkixi1334 Now I see you really have a personal problem with Desperadoes. Desperadoes performance was remarkable. I'm waiting to see you next year critiquing Despers again.
@@rodneyk5202 I ain't got nothing against Despers. Just like am not obligated to worship material things in this world like you. I have my opinion ,you have yours. I've never accused you of having a problem with Renegades because that's your opinion and You are entitled to that. You're getting personal with me for my beliefs? It ain't that serious to me, cuz. Don't come at me like that, I respected your comment without personally attacking you.
I'm not personal attacking you, I'm just trying to understand how you only have an opinion on Desperadoes performances. Be fair with your comments. Desperadoes, All Stars, Renegades, Exodus, and Phase II earn their popularity over the years by not just panorama. These bands represent the country all over the world with a wide repertoire of music. I have nothing against any other band. We all have our bias, preference however I do not think we should come on the media just to strongly critique the performance of 125 musicians with their arrangement.
@@rodneyk5202 you didn't have to respond either, this is social media as you've stated and we can choose to expunge on any given topic as we wishes. Now, if you have a personal thing with any comments on a band/ group/ team or political figure of your likeliness, too bad, you can't tell me how and what to comment on. I've commented on phase2, renegades, allstars and silver stars before, I'm not partial to nothing or no one.
Thanks for sharing. I just left Soca Brain Wash about to throw the tv out the window lol. I could not find any coverage. So happy to hear this performance
Congratulations to both Renegades & All Stars. Happy with the results,no & mind you , i am an All Stars fanatic. Not sure what these judges smoke before judging these Panorama. This arrangement by Despers reminded me of the Jammer, beautiful from start to the end but not good enough to get the judges nod. For me it was a better arrangement of DNA than Renedades but this is just my view. Phase 11 placing is very unfortunate when you listen to that quality arrangement from Boogsie. So sadden to say but the DJs are killing this music industry by not letting the public become familiar with the new Panorama songs, they play one song over & over. I felt that everyone knows that huge song DNA but not familiar with Boogsie & Kes song "Gimme Everything", which in my view was the best song played at this yrs Panorama. The song itself is a true pannist dream & reminds me of De Fosto's Play Mr Pannist. It was said in the past & i honestly feel that its time to let the spectators judge the Panorama. Its like Fonclaire Pan By Storm loosing by 1/2 pt to Renegades & after the Carnival is over the adamant Pan Lover sits & listens over everything & says "nah boi" they rob Fonclaire. All Stars running 3rd ,4th or 5th in competition but getting the peoples choice prize everytime, You cannot please everyone all the time but is it that the people know more about pan than these Judges. This Last place for Phase 11 was a hard pill to swallow. Smh.
I disagree with your comment, Renegades had a better rendition of that tune than Despers. I agree that Kes song was a better song by far and wish more bands would of pick that tune. And yes, you can't please everyone all the time but, they judges the panoramas by brand names. They should judge by performances and the only way to be fair to all bands is to put the bands behind a curtain without mentioning their names. Band #1,#2,#3 ect. A lot of other bands sounds extremely great, but their names are not popular big band names so they're dismissed as collateral damages. The big names arrangers are always self-imposed expectation to win. The truth is some of those older arrangers needs to upgrade their games because these younger arrangers are turning heads big time.
@@mikkixi1334 So you are ready to just rule out the older arrangers. Some of the young arrangers are arranging music to hype the crowd but musically limited.
@@mikkixi1334..and i disagree with you i find Despers was a better arrangement...the judges gave it to renegades because of their big name sponsors....just using your logic .
@@jasonbest21BP Renegades played the same song way better and tied for 1st place with All Stars. Desperados rendition sounded like they changed the whole song 🫠
@ausetify7109 thank you. Yeah despers sounded good... I just don't understand why bands tying for positions. Come nah let's have one band first second and third
For a band of this caliber they should’ve be placed this far but I would agree with the placing judges. There should be some major changes. I would start with the arranger-nothing personal. There needs to be more vibrant, and creativity in their arrannging. It’s time to move away from this old method of thinking. Be more creative. Zanda, you did an excellent job over the years. I think it’s time to pass torch. Others are moving forward whilst you not. I wish you the best for the future
Nonsense talk...Zanda won the Panorama in 2020 then there was no Panorama in 2021 and 2022....the only time he was out the top 3 was 2023 since he started with Desperadoes in 2016 . Why do you all never pick on Smooth and BJ Marcelle who have less success than Zanda...tell BJ he should pass the torch .
Why everytime Despers does not come in the top 3 people have to blame the arrangement or the arranger. Prior to 2016 every band was playing own tune and tune of yesteryear. Desperadoes and Zanda brought back party tunes in the panorama and won the competition. From 2017 onwards were party tunes and yesteryear tunes. Every band has their signature style of playing.
My band for life. Win or lose. When I lived in laventille carnival time we went to the pan tent to watch them practice. Love my Despers❤️
Desperadoes you guys deserved to be in the top 3. Wonderful performance, keep your heads up high. We shall get them next time.
For sure 😊
Not in the top 3 but on the top of the top 3 definitely..
Win lose or draw.. desperadoes is my band. We will be back year. Love to all
My pick for 2024 panorama champs
Despers gave me old School panorama vibes, something I didn't realise that i missed!
I will always be a despers fan they were the best for me win lose or draw
Still by far, the best band in the world
Right now I'm so proud to be ah Trini 🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹
Great comeback 👏
I keep going back to all the Panorama tunes. They are so great. I wish the single pan finals were available on TH-cam. Love that category.
So melodious.
DESPAAAHHHHSSSS 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Love despers
Lovely just beautiful..... thanks!
Have been a Desperadoes fan since 1962, their music has always been impressive from the days of Kitchener 'Mama this Mas!' Listening to this year's performance, still I'm very much impressed & wish you guys better luck next time. If any ties for 1st it should have been Massy's & Starlift.
Always a pleasure listening to yall play...so enjoyable ❤
They won you judges know that
Sounded great, top three for sure. Fingers crossed. Thank you for sharing 😊. Blessed night.
Beautiful music, tame ending.
Desperadoes were excellent. They should have won.
The greatest steel orchestra on the planet
Despers gave a great showing. But this is old-school Panorama. The top bands have taken it to the next level in the arrangements! Despers hopefully will get there in 2025. But still, if yuh is a Despers fan, yuh should still hold yuh head up high.
..but its old school arrangement and arrangers controlling the higher placings in the panorama ...may be the new school would get on board next year...it makes sense not so ?
@@LisleLewis-c5rThe "new school" approach both tied for 1st place! It's called evolve or die.
You for real ? You calling Leon "Smooth " Edwards new school....younot making sense sir .@@mangojulie123
@@LisleLewis-c5r Yeah. I'm totally for real. I didn't call him new school 😅. I said the APPROACH is new. It wasn't an insult. It was a compliment!
@@mangojulie123 you really found that approach NEW...please listen to woman on the bass. that approach cold be considered NEW then , not in 2024 .
This years arrangement was a great old school arrangement .
Congratulations Desperadoes on another remarkable performance. Should have been top 3 if not win.
Win? With what?
@@mikkixi1334 Now I see you really have a personal problem with Desperadoes. Desperadoes performance was remarkable. I'm waiting to see you next year critiquing Despers again.
@@rodneyk5202 I ain't got nothing against Despers. Just like am not obligated to worship material things in this world like you. I have my opinion ,you have yours. I've never accused you of having a problem with Renegades because that's your opinion and You are entitled to that. You're getting personal with me for my beliefs? It ain't that serious to me, cuz. Don't come at me like that, I respected your comment without personally attacking you.
I'm not personal attacking you, I'm just trying to understand how you only have an opinion on Desperadoes performances. Be fair with your comments. Desperadoes, All Stars, Renegades, Exodus, and Phase II earn their popularity over the years by not just panorama. These bands represent the country all over the world with a wide repertoire of music. I have nothing against any other band. We all have our bias, preference however I do not think we should come on the media just to strongly critique the performance of 125 musicians with their arrangement.
@@rodneyk5202 you didn't have to respond either, this is social media as you've stated and we can choose to expunge on any given topic as we wishes. Now, if you have a personal thing with any comments on a band/ group/ team or political figure of your likeliness, too bad, you can't tell me how and what to comment on. I've commented on phase2, renegades, allstars and silver stars before, I'm not partial to nothing or no one.
I’m a despers fan and all stars suppose to win and despers second
Basis comment. People would always want who they like to come first.
hear nah.... this version of DNA is the greatest.. yuh see this intro better the tie went this way instead!
Beautiful
Good job guys
Nice to see Despers in the running’s for a place in this year’s Panorama Competition 👍🏾👍🏾
Thanks for sharing. I just left Soca Brain Wash about to throw the tv out the window lol. I could not find any coverage. So happy to hear this performance
Videos are uploading… the reception here was so poor. Looks like people are leaving so the reception is much better now 🤞🏾🤞🏾
Despers to the world! ❤❤❤🔥🔥🔥
well done
Desperadoes forever ❤, well played I enjoyed it but dey still won't give up d hill first place. cheating is always a norm.
For sure.
And so is. Every band that doesn’t come in first get robbed.
Congratulations to both Renegades & All Stars. Happy with the results,no & mind you , i am an All Stars fanatic. Not sure what these judges smoke before judging these Panorama. This arrangement by Despers reminded me of the Jammer, beautiful from start to the end but not good enough to get the judges nod. For me it was a better arrangement of DNA than Renedades but this is just my view. Phase 11 placing is very unfortunate when you listen to that quality arrangement from Boogsie. So sadden to say but the DJs are killing this music industry by not letting the public become familiar with the new Panorama songs, they play one song over & over. I felt that everyone knows that huge song DNA but not familiar with Boogsie & Kes song "Gimme Everything", which in my view was the best song played at this yrs Panorama. The song itself is a true pannist dream & reminds me of De Fosto's Play Mr Pannist. It was said in the past & i honestly feel that its time to let the spectators judge the Panorama. Its like Fonclaire Pan By Storm loosing by 1/2 pt to Renegades & after the Carnival is over the adamant Pan Lover sits & listens over everything & says "nah boi" they rob Fonclaire. All Stars running 3rd ,4th or 5th in competition but getting the peoples choice prize everytime, You cannot please everyone all the time but is it that the people know more about pan than these Judges. This Last place for Phase 11 was a hard pill to swallow. Smh.
I disagree with your comment, Renegades had a better rendition of that tune than Despers. I agree that Kes song was a better song by far and wish more bands would of pick that tune. And yes, you can't please everyone all the time but, they judges the panoramas by brand names. They should judge by performances and the only way to be fair to all bands is to put the bands behind a curtain without mentioning their names. Band #1,#2,#3 ect. A lot of other bands sounds extremely great, but their names are not popular big band names so they're dismissed as collateral damages. The big names arrangers are always self-imposed expectation to win. The truth is some of those older arrangers needs to upgrade their games because these younger arrangers are turning heads big time.
@@mikkixi1334 So you are ready to just rule out the older arrangers. Some of the young arrangers are arranging music to hype the crowd but musically limited.
@@mikkixi1334..and i disagree with you i find Despers was a better arrangement...the judges gave it to renegades because of their big name sponsors....just using your logic .
@@LisleLewis-c5r that's your opinion and i respect it. Its different from mines
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Great arrangement...needed some more excitement... Melody was maintained right through.
Pan in yer pan son veered good seemor balance and well t
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I predicted from the preliminaries that Desperadoes would not win, and like I said, maybe next year. Have an enjoyable and safe carnival, y'all.
Whats the results?
@@jasonbest21BP Renegades played the same song way better and tied for 1st place with All Stars. Desperados rendition sounded like they changed the whole song 🫠
@ausetify7109 thank you. Yeah despers sounded good... I just don't understand why bands tying for positions. Come nah let's have one band first second and third
@@jasonbest21 exactly 💯
@@jasonbest21judges should conference and make a decision.
They got robbed. But we'll get them for 2025. Renegade was very jumpy, but despers arrangement was better.
What kind of old school arrangements you talking about you talking bulshit music
For a band of this caliber they should’ve be placed this far but I would agree with the placing judges.
There should be some major changes. I would start with the arranger-nothing personal. There needs to be more vibrant, and creativity in their arrannging. It’s time to move away from this old method of thinking. Be more creative. Zanda, you did an excellent job over the years. I think it’s time to pass torch. Others are moving forward whilst you not.
I wish you the best for the future
Nonsense talk...Zanda won the Panorama in 2020 then there was no Panorama in 2021 and 2022....the only time he was out the top 3 was 2023 since he started with Desperadoes in 2016 .
Why do you all never pick on Smooth and BJ Marcelle who have less success than Zanda...tell BJ he should pass the torch .
Many people find the " old method " still better than the NEW ask SMOOTH .
You know what, you guys are really old school and I won’t argue with you. It is of my opinion. And I am entitled.
Why everytime Despers does not come in the top 3 people have to blame the arrangement or the arranger. Prior to 2016 every band was playing own tune and tune of yesteryear. Desperadoes and Zanda brought back party tunes in the panorama and won the competition. From 2017 onwards were party tunes and yesteryear tunes. Every band has their signature style of playing.