I had a 1979 Cobra 5.0 with 140 hp. I bought a Edelbrock intake manifold and a holly 600, what a difference that made. After the second 4 speed broke I bought a T5 out of a wreck SVO and installed it in my car. The gear ratio was for a 4 cylinder, I could start in 3rd gear but she was fast off the line and I could beat all stock Z/28s and GTs. I also installed headers, a posi rear from a 83 GT and later a bigger cam. People were almost giving those TRX wheels and tires away, every year I needed two new back tires and they were cheap and plentiful. The car was a piece of crap but I learned to be a mechanic and had lots of fun drag racing late at night on the weekends. The Buick Grand Nationals were the toughest cars to beat back in the eighties it was embarrassing to get beat by a six cylinder. Oh the memories. Parker, I love your videos, keep up the good work.
I have to give a shoutout to Dale. Like a couple others have said, the man knows his Fox bodies! And most importantly, he gave generously of his time and knowledge. Great hosting + great guest = awesome video! 🙏
I remember that Mustang enthusiasts hated the "cheese grater" taillights on the 87-93 GT's but now they're highly sought after. I have to hand it to Dale - the man has an almost encyclopedic knowledge of Fox body Mustangs. Thanks for posting this.
Great video description of the many subtle changes throughout the Fox body era. Dale is a knowledgeable friend of mine. The 84 is actually a 1984.5 Ford deciding to celebrate their 20th Anniversary of the introduction in april 1964 -1/2.
87-89 LX 5.0 really made me love Mustangs. Of course liked the old 60s early 70s too. New Edge Mustang really blew my mind looks wise. So 87-93, 99-04, 67-72 are my favorites.
My friend Charles from high school had a 1984 and a 1/2 G.T50 Mustang, and I'll tell you right now.That car went pretty good for a hundred and sixty horse or whatever it was it might have been two hundred and twenty five horsepower but I remember doing a hundred and forty five miles an hour high on cocaine having a blast in that car back in high school
I had a 79 black on black 4 cylinder 😅 turbo 😅 blown motor 2 times before 100,000 miles 😊 but I was in high school 11th grade when I got it and I give it hell, did outrun a few v8s😊
I remember right around 1988, there was an 85. SV04 cylinder Turbo Mustang and a 5 l Mustang. Same here and they dragged raced and they raced up the mountain and the 4 cylinder, one in the drag race. And it really stamped it in the mountain race from the bottom to the top. Of the mountain. It was like a lot lot faster. Then the GT V8 Mustang.
I also had a 1983 GT 302 Convertable White and it had Black stipes and an off Black hood and top.was ultra fast too. Only lost once in 5 years of racing on the street.
Very interesting video. My first car was a '68 Mustang. I later had the Mercury version of these bodies with a 1980 Capri RS. It was one of my favorite cars.
IVE ALWAYS THOUGHT ALL THE MANUFACTURER/OEM LITTLE DIFFERENCES AND OPTIONS WERE SO COOL !! FROM THE 60'S ONWARD. CARS DEFINITELY DONT HAVE ALL THE DIFFERENT ENGINE OPTIONS LIKE THEY USED TO THANKS TO CARB/EPA CERTIFICATIONS ETC BUT SURE WOULD BE COOL TO HAVE MORE THAN 1 OR 2 ENGINE OPTIONS ETC.
The 1979 5.0L/302 CID engine hp was not rated @ 175 hp...that was not until 1983 The V6 engine in 1979 was indeed 2.8L/170 CID...the 3.8L/232 CID engine was in 1983-86 The 3.3L/200 CID engine was available mid 1979 through 1982 Vinyl roof was available on all 79-82 coupes Engine options between 1979 and 1980 was slightly different (in 1980: no v6 or 5.0L, new 4.2L). The 4.2L/255 engine was new for 1980, and used 1981-82. "Slapper bars" were on all 82 GTs, not just with 'TR Performance Suspension' package. The GT came with "Handling Suspension" package, which included those slapper bars. The TR package was a revised Handling Suspension package ... it had different size front and rear bars and bushings, different struts and shocks, and of course unique metric wheels and Michelin TRX tires. Turbo 2.3L engine was available in ALL Mustangs in 1979-82 (Canada only in 1981-82, even in the GT!), then only in Turbo GT (1983-84) and SVO (1984-86) First year for 'Quadra-Shock Rear Suspension' was actually mid 1983, but only on the Thunderbird Turbo Coupe got that that year. Mustang got that in mid 1984. (It replaced the "slapper bars".) There were 439 1985.5 SVOs. 'Sport' seats in 1983+ were made by Lear Siegler. The buck tag is on all Fox Mustangs but the location depends on year and where the car was made. The tags they were looking at is in that location for 1979-87 Dearborn-built units. Early 1979 Dearborn and 1988+ were down lower, actually behind the headlamp on the driver side. San Jose-built units (1979-81) were down lower also and in mid 1980-ish the tag moved to the passenger side, still behind the headlamp. Fuel-injection for 5.0L was first in 1984, if you ordered an automatic transmission. Looked like a carb sitting on top of the engine but it had two fuel injectors there. Same for 1985. Cars & Concepts did the 'factory' T-roof order installation. They also did installs, that were not a 'factory' order, for local dealers or owners. C&C also had a network of roof installers across U.S. and Canada that used C&C kits to install the T-roof.
i think the red vert with white interior was a 7-Up edition(yes, the soda) they came in green originally but i think ford may have expanded the color line to green, red and yellow
The had a special edition convertibles that were color matched/mirrors and wing. Yellow with a black top and chrome pony wheels, red with a white top white wheels they all had the same wing instead of a luggage rack. Those are the only two colors I've ever seen. The 7 up cars where very similar.
For a while when they release these Ford called them spring specials feature cars the following year they made the yellow with the chrome ponies and white or black leather interior
I owned a new Silver 85 GT with T-Tops 5.0 last of the Holley 4bl with 5sp it was my first new car & boy did i love it!!! .Ford would ship the cars to a place called "Car's & Concepts " they also did the Convertibles for some years. They where on I-96 in Novi Mi A man named Dick Chrysler owned it & he also made a bid for MI gov in the 80's
THE 79 IS A 302 NOT A 5.0 SINCE THE 5.0 CAME OUT IN 82 WITH A ROLLER CAM. I HAD A BLACK 79 SEDAN TAN INSIDE GHIA MODEL. 80 AND 81 THEIR WAS NO 302. WRONG INFO THE 79 302 DID NOT MAKE 175HP IT MADE LIKE 135HP. 82 MADE 157 THEN 83 MADE 175HP. 79 WAS THE ONLY YEAR WITH THE INSIDE DOOR RELEASE DOWN LOW ON THE DOOR, 80 AND 81 HAD DOG 255 ENGINES. WRONG I PUT 93 TAIL LIGHT ON MY 79 THEY BOLTED ON NO CUTTING
@@primer50 yes plus nobody called my 79 a 6.0 and 80 and 81 no 302 came back in 1982 with the 5.0 well A 302 IS REALLY A 4.9. MY ENGINE WAS PUNCHED OUT TO 306 THEN 363 THEN I WENT BBC 632 INCHER
@@jack-k6z7n Fords been using liter badging since the 60s and they still do today. 5.0 is a lot catchier then 4.98 etc 302 - 5.0 ,305 - 5.0 they called the 300 inline six a 4.9 why not 5.0 who knows
The 255ci motor was introduced into Mustangs in 1980, not 1981, and it was 118 hp, not 120. It was built for economy, getting 27mpg which would be good for a V8 today and was awesome back in 1980 when Ford was trying to meet CAFE standards, and Ford never got proper credit for this feat. If you're looking for a performer, then OK, this motor is a dog, but there are mods that can be done to up its performance. A few magazines at the time (C&D, Hot Rod) made projects out of this motor, able to get around 160 hp out of them by changing out cam, lifters, carburetor, intake and exhaust manifolds, as you would any motor when looking to increase performance. True, it would be wiser to just start off with a better motor like a 302, but the 255 has its merits, and is relevant today given the current trend for fuel efficiency and good mpg.
I dont like fords. I really dont like foxbodies. I cant believe i just watched a 45 min video learning about them. Well done sir.
I love it when a man or woman knows the car that they are into. Dale definitely knows his Fox bodies.
I had a 1979 Cobra 5.0 with 140 hp. I bought a Edelbrock intake manifold and a holly 600, what a difference that made. After the second 4 speed broke I bought a T5 out of a wreck SVO and installed it in my car. The gear ratio was for a 4 cylinder, I could start in 3rd gear but she was fast off the line and I could beat all stock Z/28s and GTs. I also installed headers, a posi rear from a 83 GT and later a bigger cam. People were almost giving those TRX wheels and tires away, every year I needed two new back tires and they were cheap and plentiful. The car was a piece of crap but I learned to be a mechanic and had lots of fun drag racing late at night on the weekends. The Buick Grand Nationals were the toughest cars to beat back in the eighties it was embarrassing to get beat by a six cylinder. Oh the memories. Parker, I love your videos, keep up the good work.
Yea he's wrong about that 170hp
@@BrandonKnight-il9xsI laughed when I heard that.
@@BrandonKnight-il9xs i thought 79 had like 125hp or close to that.
@@blue_lancer_es 135HP
I have to give a shoutout to Dale. Like a couple others have said, the man knows his Fox bodies! And most importantly, he gave generously of his time and knowledge.
Great hosting + great guest = awesome video! 🙏
I remember that Mustang enthusiasts hated the "cheese grater" taillights on the 87-93 GT's but now they're highly sought after. I have to hand it to Dale - the man has an almost encyclopedic knowledge of Fox body Mustangs. Thanks for posting this.
Great video description of the many subtle changes throughout the Fox body era. Dale is a knowledgeable friend of mine. The 84 is actually a 1984.5 Ford deciding to celebrate their 20th Anniversary of the introduction in april 1964 -1/2.
My 84 GT Turbo was right down the line from you guys. Cant wait to go back next year.
Great job Dale. Great video.. my 79 ..so happy my friends cars are in video
87-89 LX 5.0 really made me love Mustangs. Of course liked the old 60s early 70s too. New Edge Mustang really blew my mind looks wise. So 87-93, 99-04, 67-72 are my favorites.
I had a 1979 Mustang ghia 5.0. Loved that car.
WRONG NO SUCH CAR 79 WAS A 302 NOT A 5.0 5.0 CAME OUT IN 1982 IT HAD A ROLLER CAME
@@jack-k6z7n bro, 302 cubic inches are literally 5 liters
@@enzononaka6536 4.9 TO BE EXACT
My friend Charles from high school had a 1984 and a 1/2 G.T50 Mustang, and I'll tell you right now.That car went pretty good for a hundred and sixty horse or whatever it was it might have been two hundred and twenty five horsepower but I remember doing a hundred and forty five miles an hour high on cocaine having a blast in that car back in high school
I had a 79 black on black 4 cylinder 😅 turbo 😅 blown motor 2 times before 100,000 miles 😊 but I was in high school 11th grade when I got it and I give it hell, did outrun a few v8s😊
I remember right around 1988, there was an 85. SV04 cylinder Turbo Mustang and a 5 l Mustang. Same here and they dragged raced and they raced up the mountain and the 4 cylinder, one in the drag race. And it really stamped it in the mountain race from the bottom to the top. Of the mountain. It was like a lot lot faster.
Then the GT V8 Mustang.
Man this video is full of fox facts!
Great video - one other little tidbit, the 82 was the last year for the hood ornament
Outsource the heavy lifting, find the local experts and let 'em rip! Love this channel!!
I also had a 1983 GT 302 Convertable White and it had Black stipes and an off Black hood and top.was ultra fast too. Only lost once in 5 years of racing on the street.
Very interesting video. My first car was a '68 Mustang. I later had the Mercury version of these bodies with a 1980 Capri RS. It was one of my favorite cars.
Dale did a fantastic job on this video!!!!
Gained a lot of knowledge in this video, awsome job Parker........🔥🔥🔥❤️👍🏽💯
Awesome job!
I had a 92 Gt that I restored from ground up the motor itself has been built…….😎
IVE ALWAYS THOUGHT ALL THE MANUFACTURER/OEM LITTLE DIFFERENCES AND OPTIONS WERE SO COOL !! FROM THE 60'S ONWARD. CARS DEFINITELY DONT HAVE ALL THE DIFFERENT ENGINE OPTIONS LIKE THEY USED TO THANKS TO CARB/EPA CERTIFICATIONS ETC BUT SURE WOULD BE COOL TO HAVE MORE THAN 1 OR 2 ENGINE OPTIONS ETC.
I'm pretty sure 70 Mustang's only had 2 headlights. In 69 they had 4 headlights. I could be wrong. 0:51
The 1979 5.0L/302 CID engine hp was not rated @ 175 hp...that was not until 1983
The V6 engine in 1979 was indeed 2.8L/170 CID...the 3.8L/232 CID engine was in 1983-86
The 3.3L/200 CID engine was available mid 1979 through 1982
Vinyl roof was available on all 79-82 coupes
Engine options between 1979 and 1980 was slightly different (in 1980: no v6 or 5.0L, new 4.2L).
The 4.2L/255 engine was new for 1980, and used 1981-82.
"Slapper bars" were on all 82 GTs, not just with 'TR Performance Suspension' package. The GT came with "Handling Suspension" package, which included those slapper bars. The TR package was a revised Handling Suspension package ... it had different size front and rear bars and bushings, different struts and shocks, and of course unique metric wheels and Michelin TRX tires.
Turbo 2.3L engine was available in ALL Mustangs in 1979-82 (Canada only in 1981-82, even in the GT!), then only in Turbo GT (1983-84) and SVO (1984-86)
First year for 'Quadra-Shock Rear Suspension' was actually mid 1983, but only on the Thunderbird Turbo Coupe got that that year. Mustang got that in mid 1984. (It replaced the "slapper bars".)
There were 439 1985.5 SVOs.
'Sport' seats in 1983+ were made by Lear Siegler.
The buck tag is on all Fox Mustangs but the location depends on year and where the car was made. The tags they were looking at is in that location for 1979-87 Dearborn-built units. Early 1979 Dearborn and 1988+ were down lower, actually behind the headlamp on the driver side. San Jose-built units (1979-81) were down lower also and in mid 1980-ish the tag moved to the passenger side, still behind the headlamp.
Fuel-injection for 5.0L was first in 1984, if you ordered an automatic transmission. Looked like a carb sitting on top of the engine but it had two fuel injectors there. Same for 1985.
Cars & Concepts did the 'factory' T-roof order installation. They also did installs, that were not a 'factory' order, for local dealers or owners. C&C also had a network of roof installers across U.S. and Canada that used C&C kits to install the T-roof.
69 had 4 head lights, not a 70. Early was a 2.8 later had the 3.8 in addition to the straight 6
I had a 1979 Mustang Cobra 4 cylinder Turbo Brown with oranage stripes. It was fast too.
The 1984 SVO 4 cylinder turbo was also competition for the GM built 4 cyl turbo Gran Nationals.
i think the red vert with white interior was a 7-Up edition(yes, the soda) they came in green originally but i think ford may have expanded the color line to green, red and yellow
The had a special edition convertibles that were color matched/mirrors and wing. Yellow with a black top and chrome pony wheels, red with a white top white wheels they all had the same wing instead of a luggage rack. Those are the only two colors I've ever seen. The 7 up cars where very similar.
For a while when they release these Ford called them spring specials feature cars the following year they made the yellow with the chrome ponies and white or black leather interior
Good thing got back yard filled with fox body's 😊
Amazing
A black 1986 SVO Is my dream car
The 70 only had 2 headlights. He meant to say 69 which had 4
Is Dale also the AMC guy?
390 mm is actually 15.35 inches in diameter.
Cheesegraters FTW!!!!!!!!!! 😁
I owned a new Silver 85 GT with T-Tops 5.0 last of the Holley 4bl with 5sp it was my first new car & boy did i love it!!! .Ford would ship the cars to a place called "Car's & Concepts " they also did the Convertibles for some years. They where on I-96 in Novi Mi A man named Dick Chrysler owned it & he also made a bid for MI gov in the 80's
What to look for when buying a foxbody mustang; a completely different car
Dale
I think the '80 Mustang had a downsized V8 to 4.2 liters for mileage
THE 79 IS A 302 NOT A 5.0 SINCE THE 5.0 CAME OUT IN 82 WITH A ROLLER CAM. I HAD A BLACK 79 SEDAN TAN INSIDE GHIA MODEL. 80 AND 81 THEIR WAS NO 302. WRONG INFO THE 79 302 DID NOT MAKE 175HP IT MADE LIKE 135HP. 82 MADE 157 THEN 83 MADE 175HP. 79 WAS THE ONLY YEAR WITH THE INSIDE DOOR RELEASE DOWN LOW ON THE DOOR, 80 AND 81 HAD DOG 255 ENGINES. WRONG I PUT 93 TAIL LIGHT ON MY 79 THEY BOLTED ON NO CUTTING
302 = 5.0l The roller motor 302s didn't start until 1985
@@primer50 CORRECT BUT THE 5.0 CAME OUT IN 1982
@@jack-k6z7n do you mean the badging "5.0" on the front fenders?
@@primer50 yes plus nobody called my 79 a 6.0 and 80 and 81 no 302 came back in 1982 with the 5.0 well A 302 IS REALLY A 4.9. MY ENGINE WAS PUNCHED OUT TO 306 THEN 363 THEN I WENT BBC 632 INCHER
@@jack-k6z7n Fords been using liter badging since the 60s and they still do today. 5.0 is a lot catchier then 4.98 etc 302 - 5.0 ,305 - 5.0 they called the 300 inline six a 4.9 why not 5.0 who knows
Yeee!
1969 had four headlights. 1970 had two.
Not one coupe?
Very first car was a coupe
This guy sounds like Jerry Seinfeld
Older mustang 🐎 look better than foxes 🦊
If you're not Elvis or Dracula don't pop your collar.
I had a 2000 GT that had quad shocks on it,they acted as anti roll for the rear end
The 255ci motor was introduced into Mustangs in 1980, not 1981, and it was 118 hp, not 120. It was built for economy, getting 27mpg which would be good for a V8 today and was awesome back in 1980 when Ford was trying to meet CAFE standards, and Ford never got proper credit for this feat. If you're looking for a performer, then OK, this motor is a dog, but there are mods that can be done to up its performance. A few magazines at the time (C&D, Hot Rod) made projects out of this motor, able to get around 160 hp out of them by changing out cam, lifters, carburetor, intake and exhaust manifolds, as you would any motor when looking to increase performance. True, it would be wiser to just start off with a better motor like a 302, but the 255 has its merits, and is relevant today given the current trend for fuel efficiency and good mpg.