@damon6086 hanzos position on the winrate ladder scales inversely with rank. He is the lowest winrate character only in Masters and GM. What I'm saying makes perfect sense because its true. Hanzos util as a 1 shot character has long been removed due to unreasonable nerfs. And his arrow hitbox has also been reduced. His biggest util atm lies in damage botting (chokes) and his new ult util. If you play hanzo at all you should know this, especially if you are at a decent elo.
I was a high masters/t500 console and moved to pc and was also put in high gold/low plat Can immediately see all the awful decisions people make and why they are the rank they are, but at the same time i will have the worst aim in the lobby as im not good on mouse
Once, when I was playing Mercy, I had an Ana on my team who was NOT my duo. She nanoed our Winston, and he literally stood there and did nothing until after it ran out (Ana's first nano that game). EVERY nano after that was given to me, lol. The first time I thought she was trying to give it to one of our DPS or something, so I made sure the next time she had nano, I was no where near (read super jumping to stay aloft) the rest of our team mates. I still got nanoed. I did get a few kills with nano, but I mostly used them as buffers to get tricky reses off.
it's been interesting seeing the wide range of players through these spectatings, there's the people that think everything is the fault of their teammates whereas in actuality they have a lot they could be doing better, and then there's the people who think everything is their fault when in actuality most of it is team-wide issues
i moved to pc after a lifetime of only console gaming like 4 months ago and i dropped from gold 1 to bronze 4 and i only got to bronze 1 two days ago and im still trying to get out of there lol someone save me
Everything is done faster on PC. It will take some time. Check your graphics settings because sometimes they switch to high randomly. Make sure you're in full-screen mode. 😊 I de ranked just by having graphics settings too high. Also PC has less latency in full screen which makes a way bigger difference than some think.
A major venture critique is to not underestimate the power of the burrow. It's more of an engagement tool and does crazy damage, plus you're faster than most heros in it. Using it to pop up on your target, especially a sniper like Hanzo, does like half their health and after a drill, shot, and melee, they're dead with zero chance unless they got help. I really don't recommend underground drill dash when looking for an attack because it's the only actual escape tool (burrow works but it's slow and you need to do more than just press it often leading to death when you rely on it). If you don't see a good dive in burrow, are in the open, and it runs out, having no drill dash means death. Or if you did find a target, that drill is vital to sealing the deal. Finally, abuse the crap outta that melee. 75 damage over a short time is powerful, especially when you have no ammo or a discorded rein with their shield up.
I play on both, PC players have lower damage overall but quick reactions .On console, you just shoot one target then their healing won’t keep up eventually.Positioning is the key difference.
He still has a habit that took me almost a whole year to break after starting to play on PC! Using your character movement to augment your aim. It's a crippling handicap for a for a former console player because you can only go in 4 directions and at full tilt.
@@heartcoma I meant using movement and look to aim almost equally. Replacing a second analog input with 4 buttons severely hampers how accurate that method is
Totally agree. Even if positioning and timing are there, the fine aim is not. It is a matter of time and adjustments for this person's aim to improve. I did it, having been a console only player until 2016... ...when this game came out. I see him also not using cover much. If you read this, Tracer player, my tag is #aWay#11650. I main Tracer too.
it's so crazy to me that gamers still don't understand that playing shooters on a controller versus a mouse is going to be a night and day difference. it is not possible to have anywhere near the same level of precision with a controller as you can with a mouse, unless the game in question has aim assist akin to a black hole that pulls your reticle straight to your oppositions head.
Yup. I’ve never played on PC but I’ve played against them on OW & different shooters. The difference is mnk players tend to react way faster to situations due to sensitivity, that’s why high mobility char are so strong on console. The amount of times a tracer or genji wrecks my back line because people can’t track them
@@JustARandomInternetUserHere lol, thats valid. and yeah its definitely slower. i only played the console version once at a friends place, and on pc my tracer is pretty deadly, but on console i spent maybe 30 seconds to a minute blinking around while neither my opponent or i could get enough bullets into each other to end a fight so it was just a bunch of flashy stalemates.
Mechanics sound. Actual problems: 1) disrespecting the Sonic Arrow 2) bad positioning... Cuts through the middle of the enemy team - doesn't look both ways before they cross the street. Turns their back on enemies.
I'm the same. Diamond/Master on console without much difficulty, but absolutely no mechanical skill on PC, which means I can see every mistake but I just can't properly punish people for it. The worst part is that once I focus in on my aim, my performance begins to worsen. It's incredibly frustrating.
I had the exact same experience, while it’s easier to aim with the mouse it takes time to have to adjust to all the buttons being different; that fraction of a second that you take to work out where the right key is really throws you off. PC players are also more accurate, which is another adjustment. When I moved over I wasn’t paying competitive but must have gone 5-50 and it just didn’t seem like the game was ever going to realise that I wasn’t the same player on PC. In the end I quit the game for a year but came back recently and have caught the upswing as I’ve acclimatised and am now dumpstering my opponents, winning 80% of my games as my mechanics are catching up to my game sense.
I swapped to PC and went from plat to silver. The skill ceiling is just higher on PC so you basically lose 1000 SR. If I had been put in PC plat when I first swapped, I would've been way out of my depth.
Mechanically he was good, however as Tracer, I would have focused more on supports; DPS and tanks tend to fall over easily without heals (in a team fight, which is typically when I engage)
After playing OverWatch for 6 years I got a PC last summer and my rank didn't change until this past summer. My biggest suggestion to you if you want to get better other than mouse settings and getting more space for your mouse movement would be to use either a smaller keyboard controller or something like an azaron gamepad. It simplifies your movement to a game stick, and still gives you the ability to hit all of the buttons for voice lines call outs etc. Azarron cyborg compact was what I got and I'm going to get the second version with the hall effect joystick eventually but it's totally not necessary except for longevity. I fully recommend those gamepads and I know that they're expensive but it'll improve your game more than tweaking some settings or getting a new graphics card for sure. I play with masters and Grand Masters in QP And I haven't really touched comp in a little bit. But I've gotten to high diamond.
Kinda just looked like their team was getting decimated by cass and hanzo Targeting could use work or stuff here and there like emongg said, but kinda just looked like one of those games
as a former low plat console player turned high bronze low silver PC player ... yea sometimes it feels liek that but then i remember ... maybe im just bad but everyone else was just worse on console
2:45 saw in a Flats video a while ago that this part of the map is audio bugged so if there’s a fight happening at the 2nd point it sounds like it is right on top of you
Number one thing as tracer is to focus the low targets and I don't feel like you started doing that.. ever. Spatial awareness is low, Maybe get a better headset? Also lowering the quality settings for the things around you might help cuz it does help some people. Waiting more than a millisecond after you send your pulse out so you don't die when you flash back it's also a thing you can do...
The sounds really counterintuitive but for some people on tracer if you have mouse acceleration turned on it can be very disorientating Make sure that's turned off in your windows settings. Some people turn it on on purpose and it helps them so again tweak your settings for your mouse in Windows.. If your mouse also has proprietary software that you can install and tweak more settings then do that... Some mice allow you to turn the DPI way above what Windows will default at.. this is fine as long as you Make sure you have the setting in overwatch switched appropriately depending on how high your DPI is.. It should be under gameplay in settings but I might be wrong I'm not looking at it..
although this not my vlog i legit just found the reasoning for some of my ults on reaper. Id use them defensively which isnt ideal and usually ends in my death with maybe 1 kill with it
**I did notice that you did not ping a single time any enemy that you were looking at that your teammate was not. That is the biggest thing that anyone from Gold n up at least 80% of the time will do, touch your middle mouse button while you're looking at an enemy in order to ping at them. Your team can't follow up on plays they don't know exist
ive been a console player my whole life and i moved to pc a few months ago and can confirm pc is better for me (i was on a release day ps4 tho so my game looked and ran like a potato)
Switched from console to PC about 2 months ago I don't play daily and sometimes skip weeks so im still adjusting but i was high plat-diamond and am in quick play with golds 😭havent touched comp yet
He got cucked by the zen ping at the end of the game there. It pinged to their left when they were going for the flank and not knowing the zen is beyond the checkpoint, they went searching in the place youd think the ping is for. Sucks. Might've held
take fights with the intent to steamroll the red team and then take the objective, not the other way around poke from high ground and play unfair have cooldowns ready for an escape but don't hold on to them. instead let your ability timings influence your positioning
definitely not used to having opponents be able to turn around. they're in the open with 3+ looking at them and not sensing any danger. emongg is too kind to mention mechanics but there's a lot of tick-tick movement of someone on too high sens, but i also wonder if they're still using a controller.
For some reason, in this season, I did my DPS placements (typically only play support in comp) and despite only winning somewhere around 2-3 of my placement games, I watched my projected rank go up from gold 3 to gold 1, despite losing almost every game. And thus I was placed in gold 1. I then proceeded to get dumpstered every match, until dropping all the way to mid gold 5. I don't get this game.
This looks like silver gameplay. You’re being too nice to him. Though I appreciate how you don’t confirm his negative beliefs. That would be very demotivating.
he's not bad. the only thing is his decisions and positioning. like here: 6:50 he did well on focus on this mercy and negate the rez. but after that, he sign a death sentence on thinking it's a good idea to appear here (with the idea of killing reinhart) but actually is in front of a hanzo and ana (and he sees hanzo clearly, still he wants to try it). And as we can see is a cassidy coming from the window too. with time and patience this player will be good. moving to PC It's a big difference.
A one trick does not mean you like that character a lot. If you just like 1 character and play them a lot then they are your main, you do not one trick them unless you do not play other characters. jfc
I’d recommend looking into getting a Tartarus type controller for console players switching to PC, it’s made things easier for me as you don’t have to learn the asdw keys for movement.
i actually hate watching this guy play he looks like he is unsure of every single movement he makes which is what makes him a bad player. no confidence in his decisions you can see the clearest example 2:55 when he was shot by hanzo instead of going to cart where he was clearly going
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Hanzo hitting his shots always makes you feel 2 ranks lower imo
Oml makes me realize why ppl accuse me sm when I have my good games
not really when his arrows have the hit box of a meteor
@@GRIMGOTHHHthey kinda dont anymore, if you think hanzo is good you are not a good player
@@cooltwittertag Most lower ranked people don't really play Hanzo because they aren't as mechanically good. Your statement makes no sense.
@damon6086 hanzos position on the winrate ladder scales inversely with rank. He is the lowest winrate character only in Masters and GM. What I'm saying makes perfect sense because its true. Hanzos util as a 1 shot character has long been removed due to unreasonable nerfs. And his arrow hitbox has also been reduced. His biggest util atm lies in damage botting (chokes) and his new ult util. If you play hanzo at all you should know this, especially if you are at a decent elo.
Having moved to PC a couple years ago, I can confirm, it is a HUGE difference.
yea hugely easier lol
@@geert574 Cope LOL
@@geert574 as displayed by this video
I was a high masters/t500 console and moved to pc and was also put in high gold/low plat
Can immediately see all the awful decisions people make and why they are the rank they are, but at the same time i will have the worst aim in the lobby as im not good on mouse
I'm the opposite. Shit aim on controller but good aim with mouse. But I only play console 😅
For me it was different probably cause I had some experience playing on pc but I only went from low diamond to low plat
Once, when I was playing Mercy, I had an Ana on my team who was NOT my duo. She nanoed our Winston, and he literally stood there and did nothing until after it ran out (Ana's first nano that game). EVERY nano after that was given to me, lol. The first time I thought she was trying to give it to one of our DPS or something, so I made sure the next time she had nano, I was no where near (read super jumping to stay aloft) the rest of our team mates. I still got nanoed. I did get a few kills with nano, but I mostly used them as buffers to get tricky reses off.
@@pernvalkyrie572 the rabid way some Mercy players chase rezzes 🤣
it's been interesting seeing the wide range of players through these spectatings, there's the people that think everything is the fault of their teammates whereas in actuality they have a lot they could be doing better, and then there's the people who think everything is their fault when in actuality most of it is team-wide issues
i moved to pc after a lifetime of only console gaming like 4 months ago and i dropped from gold 1 to bronze 4 and i only got to bronze 1 two days ago and im still trying to get out of there lol someone save me
It takes time lmao, it took almost a year for the keyboard controls to feel "right" in my controller-shaped hands lmao
Everything is done faster on PC. It will take some time. Check your graphics settings because sometimes they switch to high randomly. Make sure you're in full-screen mode. 😊 I de ranked just by having graphics settings too high. Also PC has less latency in full screen which makes a way bigger difference than some think.
@@leebuugz friend me
A major venture critique is to not underestimate the power of the burrow. It's more of an engagement tool and does crazy damage, plus you're faster than most heros in it. Using it to pop up on your target, especially a sniper like Hanzo, does like half their health and after a drill, shot, and melee, they're dead with zero chance unless they got help.
I really don't recommend underground drill dash when looking for an attack because it's the only actual escape tool (burrow works but it's slow and you need to do more than just press it often leading to death when you rely on it). If you don't see a good dive in burrow, are in the open, and it runs out, having no drill dash means death. Or if you did find a target, that drill is vital to sealing the deal.
Finally, abuse the crap outta that melee. 75 damage over a short time is powerful, especially when you have no ammo or a discorded rein with their shield up.
I play on both, PC players have lower damage overall but quick reactions .On console, you just shoot one target then their healing won’t keep up eventually.Positioning is the key difference.
He still has a habit that took me almost a whole year to break after starting to play on PC! Using your character movement to augment your aim.
It's a crippling handicap for a for a former console player because you can only go in 4 directions and at full tilt.
People on pc do this too though
@@heartcoma I meant using movement and look to aim almost equally. Replacing a second analog input with 4 buttons severely hampers how accurate that method is
Totally agree. Even if positioning and timing are there, the fine aim is not. It is a matter of time and adjustments for this person's aim to improve. I did it, having been a console only player until 2016...
...when this game came out.
I see him also not using cover much.
If you read this, Tracer player, my tag is #aWay#11650. I main Tracer too.
it's so crazy to me that gamers still don't understand that playing shooters on a controller versus a mouse is going to be a night and day difference. it is not possible to have anywhere near the same level of precision with a controller as you can with a mouse, unless the game in question has aim assist akin to a black hole that pulls your reticle straight to your oppositions head.
Yup. I’ve never played on PC but I’ve played against them on OW & different shooters. The difference is mnk players tend to react way faster to situations due to sensitivity, that’s why high mobility char are so strong on console. The amount of times a tracer or genji wrecks my back line because people can’t track them
I play both. Console is just so much more relaxed. The game is much slower and the awareness is just not there.
@@JustARandomInternetUserHere lol, thats valid. and yeah its definitely slower. i only played the console version once at a friends place, and on pc my tracer is pretty deadly, but on console i spent maybe 30 seconds to a minute blinking around while neither my opponent or i could get enough bullets into each other to end a fight so it was just a bunch of flashy stalemates.
Mechanics sound. Actual problems:
1) disrespecting the Sonic Arrow
2) bad positioning... Cuts through the middle of the enemy team - doesn't look both ways before they cross the street. Turns their back on enemies.
I'm the same. Diamond/Master on console without much difficulty, but absolutely no mechanical skill on PC, which means I can see every mistake but I just can't properly punish people for it.
The worst part is that once I focus in on my aim, my performance begins to worsen. It's incredibly frustrating.
I had the exact same experience, while it’s easier to aim with the mouse it takes time to have to adjust to all the buttons being different; that fraction of a second that you take to work out where the right key is really throws you off. PC players are also more accurate, which is another adjustment.
When I moved over I wasn’t paying competitive but must have gone 5-50 and it just didn’t seem like the game was ever going to realise that I wasn’t the same player on PC. In the end I quit the game for a year but came back recently and have caught the upswing as I’ve acclimatised and am now dumpstering my opponents, winning 80% of my games as my mechanics are catching up to my game sense.
I swapped to PC and went from plat to silver. The skill ceiling is just higher on PC so you basically lose 1000 SR. If I had been put in PC plat when I first swapped, I would've been way out of my depth.
Mechanically he was good, however as Tracer, I would have focused more on supports; DPS and tanks tend to fall over easily without heals (in a team fight, which is typically when I engage)
After playing OverWatch for 6 years I got a PC last summer and my rank didn't change until this past summer. My biggest suggestion to you if you want to get better other than mouse settings and getting more space for your mouse movement would be to use either a smaller keyboard controller or something like an azaron gamepad. It simplifies your movement to a game stick, and still gives you the ability to hit all of the buttons for voice lines call outs etc.
Azarron cyborg compact was what I got and I'm going to get the second version with the hall effect joystick eventually but it's totally not necessary except for longevity.
I fully recommend those gamepads and I know that they're expensive but it'll improve your game more than tweaking some settings or getting a new graphics card for sure.
I play with masters and Grand Masters in QP And I haven't really touched comp in a little bit. But I've gotten to high diamond.
Kinda just looked like their team was getting decimated by cass and hanzo
Targeting could use work or stuff here and there like emongg said, but kinda just looked like one of those games
as a former low plat console player turned high bronze low silver PC player ... yea sometimes it feels liek that but then i remember ... maybe im just bad but everyone else was just worse on console
2:45 saw in a Flats video a while ago that this part of the map is audio bugged so if there’s a fight happening at the 2nd point it sounds like it is right on top of you
Number one thing as tracer is to focus the low targets and I don't feel like you started doing that.. ever.
Spatial awareness is low, Maybe get a better headset? Also lowering the quality settings for the things around you might help cuz it does help some people.
Waiting more than a millisecond after you send your pulse out so you don't die when you flash back it's also a thing you can do...
The sounds really counterintuitive but for some people on tracer if you have mouse acceleration turned on it can be very disorientating Make sure that's turned off in your windows settings. Some people turn it on on purpose and it helps them so again tweak your settings for your mouse in Windows..
If your mouse also has proprietary software that you can install and tweak more settings then do that...
Some mice allow you to turn the DPI way above what Windows will default at.. this is fine as long as you Make sure you have the setting in overwatch switched appropriately depending on how high your DPI is..
It should be under gameplay in settings but I might be wrong I'm not looking at it..
although this not my vlog i legit just found the reasoning for some of my ults on reaper. Id use them defensively which isnt ideal and usually ends in my death with maybe 1 kill with it
I was playing yesterday as reaper and my life weaver pulled me our of the enemy's team when I used my ult
Maybe you will die 0.5 secs later?
Maybe he pulled you when you ulti'd at the same time?
Make sure your health is not at 1hp
Then you might realize why they pulled you
You have a decent sensitivity set but I don't think you have enough space for your mouse to move and that can be a problem on tracer as well.
plat on pc, when i tried playing ow on my friends console i was extremely lucky if i ended the match with 5 elims. i dont envy controller players LOL
**I did notice that you did not ping a single time any enemy that you were looking at that your teammate was not. That is the biggest thing that anyone from Gold n up at least 80% of the time will do, touch your middle mouse button while you're looking at an enemy in order to ping at them. Your team can't follow up on plays they don't know exist
So, which makes for a better experience? Console or PC?
Usually PC. Better frame rates and refresh rates make it much easier for you to see movement and tracking
ive been a console player my whole life and i moved to pc a few months ago and can confirm pc is better for me (i was on a release day ps4 tho so my game looked and ran like a potato)
@leebuugz the new generation consolespecific run overwatch at a constant 120, only thing is that there's no fov slider
PC. Bar none.
Less rage hackers on console ATM. That's why I'm tending to play more console these days
it's been 3 videos since I saw cat :(
Switched from console to PC about 2 months ago I don't play daily and sometimes skip weeks so im still adjusting but i was high plat-diamond and am in quick play with golds 😭havent touched comp yet
He got cucked by the zen ping at the end of the game there.
It pinged to their left when they were going for the flank and not knowing the zen is beyond the checkpoint, they went searching in the place youd think the ping is for.
Sucks. Might've held
Whats the song in the start???
I’d say on console it’s easier to bully people with Tracer since they can’t track that well
take fights with the intent to steamroll the red team and then take the objective, not the other way around
poke from high ground and play unfair
have cooldowns ready for an escape but don't hold on to them. instead let your ability timings influence your positioning
Also angle snapping is horrible if you have that setting turned on turn it off.
definitely not used to having opponents be able to turn around. they're in the open with 3+ looking at them and not sensing any danger. emongg is too kind to mention mechanics but there's a lot of tick-tick movement of someone on too high sens, but i also wonder if they're still using a controller.
For some reason, in this season, I did my DPS placements (typically only play support in comp) and despite only winning somewhere around 2-3 of my placement games, I watched my projected rank go up from gold 3 to gold 1, despite losing almost every game. And thus I was placed in gold 1. I then proceeded to get dumpstered every match, until dropping all the way to mid gold 5. I don't get this game.
This looks like silver gameplay. You’re being too nice to him. Though I appreciate how you don’t confirm his negative beliefs. That would be very demotivating.
Did this a while back. Gm console to low masters on pc.
Man I was masters on ps4 and then gold on pc you just gotta learn to adapt and keep climbing PS:bronze-masters PC:gold-masters
he's not bad. the only thing is his decisions and positioning. like here: 6:50 he did well on focus on this mercy and negate the rez. but after that, he sign a death sentence on thinking it's a good idea to appear here (with the idea of killing reinhart) but actually is in front of a hanzo and ana (and he sees hanzo clearly, still he wants to try it). And as we can see is a cassidy coming from the window too.
with time and patience this player will be good. moving to PC It's a big difference.
A one trick does not mean you like that character a lot. If you just like 1 character and play them a lot then they are your main, you do not one trick them unless you do not play other characters. jfc
Anyone else reading this "CartGuy1"s comments in chat and wondering if he's ever played the game?
this is what high masters console decison making and gamesense looks like?
@@Unscheinbar-f5y i played with a group of Console Masters and one GM and I could easily handle every one of them as a low plat player, so yes.
I’d recommend looking into getting a Tartarus type controller for console players switching to PC, it’s made things easier for me as you don’t have to learn the asdw keys for movement.
Moved from console to pc to continue to use a controller
@@kadajmino3268 good luck with that...
Support at this level is literally a toss of the dice, so teammate inconsistencies plague lower ranks.
mannn pge didnt even play at all in sweden
Honestly, big slam lol
Stayed to long in fight.
i actually hate watching this guy play he looks like he is unsure of every single movement he makes which is what makes him a bad player. no confidence in his decisions you can see the clearest example 2:55 when he was shot by hanzo instead of going to cart where he was clearly going
Cowtails, friend me on PC
you went way too easy on this guy lmao
You're an inting Annie
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why am i so early
I play better than this guy and I think I am in the right rank.
I think u misunderstood this, they are saying that their rank is too high for them
0 views in 50 seconds bro fell off
I love to spot every little mistakes made by people whining about "deserving higher rank"
To be fair, this person is being humble and thinks they deserve a lower rank
You are so lazy
Did you even read what they said or the title?
Not playing perfectly doesn't mean they're wrong. GMs make mistakes. Sounds like you have some issues.