CORRECTION: You CAN still enter 360 mode in the latest beta release (it's just a bit laggy when you move around)... 3D > Spherical Panorama > New Panorama Layer From Selected Layer. Then, use generative fill, and don't forget to 'Merge Down' the generated layer BEFORE you start moving the viewpoint around. Also kinda weird that the message '3D features are being discontinued' has been showing up for 2 years now yet they haven't fully removed them 🤔
I think peeps confuse 360 and 3d, they are two separate processes. Adobe have ceased supporting 3d modelling in PS, that feature now has a dedicated program called Substance 3D, as far as I am aware the 360 spherical features have not changed and are still there in PS, albeit a little bit clunky. Maybe adobe should remove the 3D from the menu and replace it with 360°.
When working with Pano2VR to produce the Virtual Tour, you can use its "Patch" feature instead of the entire Affinity Photo extracting and merging process. Same kind of process in principle, but less error-prone, because you don't have to take care not to move the 360° view while editing externally in Photoshop, and the extract / merge is done automatically, without any manual dealing with files. Thanks for the great video! :)
I haven’t used it, but I’ve heard good things 😁 I wonder how it would handle really difficult patches- tiles, parallax errors etc. also other cleanup jobs like removing cables & adding the things I added in this video 🤔
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Wonder too, maybe you can give it a try and make a new video for this? @@BenClaremont
Hi Ben! We are supportive & enthusiastic fans of your work and contributions to our growing VR / 360 community here at Reality Capture Experts! Just wanted to add a quick comment here to say THANK YOU :-)
I think Adobe recommended avoiding Instructions (add or remove stuff), but using Descriptions (of the object, scene you want it to generate). Furthermore, to remove unwanted object, you can just leave empty and click generative fill directly. By default, it will remove selected unwanted object of the scene and blend it well.
I was using the new beta of Photoshop Dec 2023 and I was using generative fill to fix some stitching issues using the 3D feature. Still working and saves the extra step (although saving opinions has always been limited)
With pano2VR, the "merge process" you describe is much easier. One click and a patch is created that can be opened immediately in Photoshop. In addition, the spherical perspective is converted to 2D. I love pano2VR in combination with the new Firefly engine!
Bonjour, merci pour ces excellentes explications ,cela va changer le flux de travail Hello, thank you for these excellent explanations, it will change the workflow
AI is so perfect for 360º photos!!! I've been thinking about this ever since I started using Ps Beta and Generative Fill. You can just select an area to fix and tell it nothing and 90% of the time it just fixes it! Removing shadows and reflections of the camera and tripod... simple. Remove people... simple. Add things, adjust things, stuff that would have taken hours... SIMPLE! And as you can see, it detects the angle of the sun and adds shadows on things you put in and puts them in the right area. Crazy! I LOVE Ps Beta's Generative Fill!
It’s awesome and I will potentially make a video covering it. The main downside is the price- Luma may be pricing themselves out of the market unfortunately.
Hi @BenClaremont, I have a very weird and seemingly very specific problem with the Insta360 X3 to GSV workflow. I followed your tutorial/X3 review video from ~6months ago and got myself the GPS remote control, since the connection with phone (iOS or Android) regularly disconnects during a shoot. I can do the 5.7K variation just fine - the gps is correct and I can upload it on GSV. I am not happy enough with the image quality though, so I opted for the interval mode 72MP every 3s variation. And here is the problem (with which the Insta360 support couldn't help at all, they basically said it should work and that's it - but it doesn't): The GPS coordinates are totally whack when shooting interval or just regular photo mode - I am in Austria and all of the pictures I took show up as if I was running hundreds of kilometers in the ocean next to Yemen. The route itself looks correct in relation to each individual point - it does show up how it should, but the scale and the location is just wrong. Do you get how I mean it? :S First I thought the coordinates might for whatever reason "just" be swapped, but even then the issue of the photos being ~100km apart from eachother and after swapping the lon and lat they appear somewhere around Hambourgh, Germany (~10h away from where I am). Do you have ANY idea what the problem could be? Or even better: how to solve the issue? I hope you read this ^^' Thanks in advance and have a nice day, Ivo
@@BenClaremont it’s been calling to me, but I went down the Luminar pathway to avoid subscribing. I’m sure Luminar will respond, but I can’t wait any longer.
I guess the lightning to the new add object, is bit strange. Like you would, cut out some couch from some IKEA magazine, and place it to your 360 shot. They have to work on the lights
Genius! It still irks me that Adobe thought it was a good idea to remove 360 editing from PS 🤬, especially given the popularity of 360's. But this is impressive and thanks for a very informative video.
Hey ben love ur vids can you do an update to matterport alts. Its veen a year. I know cloudpano has had lots of updates including dollhouses. Matterport pricong gets insane thanks
#RCE3d Well explained ! Love it and hate it . Make years of experience in 360 retouche for everybody available in seconds, killing my USP... but anyway ...life goes on! The time wait for generative AI fill was shown in real time, or did it need longer?
remember, dont talk to it like a human. dont do things like "add firepit" as it doesnt understand language like that and adobe has said this themselves. type something like "firepit" or "warm firepit with logs", no instructive words. and when removing something its best to leave it blank, and if not, then do something like "bench leg" or "wooden chair leg"
CS6 was the last one (and it's still not enough to make me switch) there's other options for generative fill, but still a great video and a very clever idea.
I like your effort to bring the AI tool awareness to community, however I downloaded Beta, I see Contextual Bar but no input prompt option to write into. Anybody else have this issue?
Is the AI an add-on, and is there a cost? Have you tried adjusting exposures, shadows, etc? Wouldn't it be great if this was available in Affinity! Great video, as always. Love your videos.
@@BenClaremont KI is German and stands for "Künstliche Intelligenz". Same as AI in English. 😉 Yes, I am from Germany and I am jealous, you live in such a nice place. 😊
@@Mohnfeldimate, I lived in Germany for 4 months about 7 years ago. Germany is awesome, but our summer weather is definitely something Germany doesn't have.
Yes, but it’s still very early days and might be harder to get a specific look or size of furniture. That said, my examples from this video were pretty darn good
Thanxs Ben, i already was working with generative fill and affinitiy photo but had no idea how get the right position from affiniti to photoshop , quiet easy at the end ;) greetings Ben
so that means I can create a 360 Equirectangular projection with Midjourney,, place it in Affinity and correct it with PS then upscale it with Topaz,...so no 360 camera needed anymore....you're welcome! :P
Hi Ben i am from Ukraine) I have a company making 360 tours with local seo for my clients and i send them One x they making a fotoes bythemselves and then sending me camera back in that way they spend much less and get theis 360 tour for about 50 usd) THE QUESTION IS: Sometimes i have clients that needs good quality 360 and in that case i search for a another 360 fotographer but maybe there is some camera that can help in such case? Like Titan? Or there is something with less price or a camera with fish eye is the better option the problem i am afraid that i would not get how to to stitching and editing process so give me an advice please
Hello, the Google Trusted Verification program said it is not provided to Google Trusted Photographers. How did you get it? How can you do both at the same time?
Hey Ben❣ I purchased your Virtual Pro course & Business course also (AMAZING!!!) Is there a way that we can communicate, I did my first hotel tour with the THETA X and I have purchased all the software you suggested such as: Affinity Bundle, Topaz Bundle, 3DVista, then watching this current video above, I downloaded the adobe photoshop trial (my screen doesn't look like yours to open photoshop😕). I don't have a real instructional to merge/integrate affinity & photoshop, also the other edits I have done in affinity isn't compatible with 3DVista🤯. I took this content on Mother's Day and i'm still trying to edit and make a virtual tour walk through. To add more 😕 the 3DVista isn't stitching my images properly, then Nadir is not showing properly😭what am I doing wrong PLEASE HELP ME! Great news, I am able to remove the monopod😁
Hi Ben. Why not do it directly in Photoshop? Even photoshop dropped support for 3D features, you can still use spherical panorama projection in latest photoshop (v24.7.0). It is simple and easier than jump to affinity photo.
@@BenClaremont No plugin, the feature is already available in photoshop. This is my workflow: 1. In photoshop see tab "3D - Spherical Panorama - Import Panorama". Open equirectangular image. Image will be opened in spherical projection space. 2. Do some editing. Generative fill works here. Merge all layer when done editing. 3. Use tab "3D - Spherical Panorama - Export Panorama" to save edited image.
@@haruyuki4988 you’re right- my mistake, I thought they’d removed them after the ‘we’re removing 3D features’ message had been showing up for the past 2 years. It’s a bit laggy, but seems to be workable (for now) 👍🏻
@@BenClaremont Probably depend on hardware. On my case, I went to Preferences - 3D. Then turn off Interactive Rendering - Allow Direct to Screen. Then I can move & work smoothly in sperical projection.
@@haruyuki4988 I’m testing that now- however unchecking it causes the colours to appear much darker in 360 mode, then when you merge the generative fill layer down, then return to the equirectangular, the patch you made appears much darker than the rest of the photo. Did you have the darkness issue?
This works if there is only 1 panorama in a room, but if there are 2 panoramas, artificial intelligence cannot add the same seat to the other panorama.
You know there’s gonna be at least two or three pictures that can see that wall or the fire pit. You never gonna be able to find the same picture or the same fire pit. I love how you’re trying to monetize from this though…. I just did an Asteroom shoot today.
@@BenClaremont Thank you. Is Affinity good at hdr merging also? All my photos in bedrooms have a pink/blue tint on white ceiling when merging with insta360 and lightroom
CORRECTION: You CAN still enter 360 mode in the latest beta release (it's just a bit laggy when you move around)... 3D > Spherical Panorama > New Panorama Layer From Selected Layer. Then, use generative fill, and don't forget to 'Merge Down' the generated layer BEFORE you start moving the viewpoint around.
Also kinda weird that the message '3D features are being discontinued' has been showing up for 2 years now yet they haven't fully removed them 🤔
I think peeps confuse 360 and 3d, they are two separate processes. Adobe have ceased supporting 3d modelling in PS, that feature now has a dedicated program called Substance 3D, as far as I am aware the 360 spherical features have not changed and are still there in PS, albeit a little bit clunky. Maybe adobe should remove the 3D from the menu and replace it with 360°.
after I merge the layers I cant move back to panorama or move around...
When working with Pano2VR to produce the Virtual Tour, you can use its "Patch" feature instead of the entire Affinity Photo extracting and merging process. Same kind of process in principle, but less error-prone, because you don't have to take care not to move the 360° view while editing externally in Photoshop, and the extract / merge is done automatically, without any manual dealing with files. Thanks for the great video! :)
I haven’t used it, but I’ve heard good things 😁 I wonder how it would handle really difficult patches- tiles, parallax errors etc. also other cleanup jobs like removing cables & adding the things I added in this video 🤔
Wonder too, maybe you can give it a try and make a new video for this? @@BenClaremont
Hi Ben! We are supportive & enthusiastic fans of your work and contributions to our growing VR / 360 community here at Reality Capture Experts! Just wanted to add a quick comment here to say THANK YOU :-)
Thanks Dustin! 🙏🏻
I think Adobe recommended avoiding Instructions (add or remove stuff), but using Descriptions (of the object, scene you want it to generate). Furthermore, to remove unwanted object, you can just leave empty and click generative fill directly. By default, it will remove selected unwanted object of the scene and blend it well.
Yep!
I was using the new beta of Photoshop Dec 2023 and I was using generative fill to fix some stitching issues using the 3D feature. Still working and saves the extra step (although saving opinions has always been limited)
With pano2VR, the "merge process" you describe is much easier. One click and a patch is created that can be opened immediately in Photoshop. In addition, the spherical perspective is converted to 2D. I love pano2VR in combination with the new Firefly engine!
Sounds like a great tool!
@@BenClaremont It is! >> th-cam.com/video/_IWL6xXycs4/w-d-xo.html
Brilliant! Love the ideas. I'll definitely add these into my workflow.
This works amazingly for removing unwanted shadows, people, etc instantly!
Sure does 😁
Bonjour, merci pour ces excellentes explications ,cela va changer le flux de travail
Hello, thank you for these excellent explanations, it will change the workflow
Wow...really impressive. So far I haven't been into 360 cams, though I randomly follow your content. Amazing work - keep it going!
Thanks! Obviously the same process can be applied on non 360 images too 😁
Impressive how it gets the couch shadow on the wall correct for couch design
For sure- the AI lighting is so good!
AI is so perfect for 360º photos!!! I've been thinking about this ever since I started using Ps Beta and Generative Fill. You can just select an area to fix and tell it nothing and 90% of the time it just fixes it! Removing shadows and reflections of the camera and tripod... simple. Remove people... simple. Add things, adjust things, stuff that would have taken hours... SIMPLE! And as you can see, it detects the angle of the sun and adds shadows on things you put in and puts them in the right area. Crazy! I LOVE Ps Beta's Generative Fill!
What is your opinion about 3d Nerf for virtual tours, such as the work that you can do with Luma?
Awesome channel and, as always, great videos.
It’s awesome and I will potentially make a video covering it. The main downside is the price- Luma may be pricing themselves out of the market unfortunately.
Cool Ben...learning a lot from your channel...Thanks!
No worries!
fantastic! could you do a breakdown on how to charge for your services? thank you!!!
Hey- I go in-depth on pricing inside my Virtual Tour Pro course… link in description 😀
Hi @BenClaremont, I have a very weird and seemingly very specific problem with the Insta360 X3 to GSV workflow. I followed your tutorial/X3 review video from ~6months ago and got myself the GPS remote control, since the connection with phone (iOS or Android) regularly disconnects during a shoot. I can do the 5.7K variation just fine - the gps is correct and I can upload it on GSV. I am not happy enough with the image quality though, so I opted for the interval mode 72MP every 3s variation. And here is the problem (with which the Insta360 support couldn't help at all, they basically said it should work and that's it - but it doesn't):
The GPS coordinates are totally whack when shooting interval or just regular photo mode - I am in Austria and all of the pictures I took show up as if I was running hundreds of kilometers in the ocean next to Yemen. The route itself looks correct in relation to each individual point - it does show up how it should, but the scale and the location is just wrong. Do you get how I mean it? :S
First I thought the coordinates might for whatever reason "just" be swapped, but even then the issue of the photos being ~100km apart from eachother and after swapping the lon and lat they appear somewhere around Hambourgh, Germany (~10h away from where I am).
Do you have ANY idea what the problem could be? Or even better: how to solve the issue?
I hope you read this ^^'
Thanks in advance and have a nice day,
Ivo
Great video. Now I have to switch from Luminar New (one time purchase) to Photoshop (subscription). But generative fill is next level.
It’s awesome!
@@BenClaremont it’s been calling to me, but I went down the Luminar pathway to avoid subscribing. I’m sure Luminar will respond, but I can’t wait any longer.
Unbelievable! This is so awesome thanks for sharing.
No worries 😁
This is amazing. By the way, I Left you a comment in your TikTok account about the Link of your TH-cam channel. 👍
🙏🏻
I guess the lightning to the new add object, is bit strange. Like you would, cut out some couch from some IKEA magazine, and place it to your 360 shot. They have to work on the lights
Excellent Tutorial...Many Thanks.
My pleasure
Genius! It still irks me that Adobe thought it was a good idea to remove 360 editing from PS 🤬, especially given the popularity of 360's. But this is impressive and thanks for a very informative video.
Thank you Ben!
Super Awesome!
Sometimes you don't need to type in a prompt and it acts kind of like a super version of content aware fill.
Hey ben love ur vids can you do an update to matterport alts. Its veen a year. I know cloudpano has had lots of updates including dollhouses. Matterport pricong gets insane thanks
wow...impressive..
#RCE3d
Well explained ! Love it and hate it . Make years of experience in 360 retouche for everybody available in seconds, killing my USP... but anyway ...life goes on!
The time wait for generative AI fill was shown in real time, or did it need longer?
It takes a few seconds… not always perfect but very, very good 👍🏻
nice, I have both but never thought about this!!!!
You should!
remember, dont talk to it like a human. dont do things like "add firepit" as it doesnt understand language like that and adobe has said this themselves. type something like "firepit" or "warm firepit with logs", no instructive words. and when removing something its best to leave it blank, and if not, then do something like "bench leg" or "wooden chair leg"
for the best result**
This is brilliant!
This is the kind of stuff that would actually get me to update from my CS5 that was the last package that didn't have the subscription model.
Do it!
CS6 was the last one (and it's still not enough to make me switch) there's other options for generative fill, but still a great video and a very clever idea.
@@apricotdog , you're right. I'm still on CS5 because it was the last version that worked reliably on MacOS High Sierra.
I like your effort to bring the AI tool awareness to community, however I downloaded Beta, I see Contextual Bar but no input prompt option to write into. Anybody else have this issue?
When will you course be ready ?
In 3 days time 😁 will post a video to my channel once it’s available 👍🏻
Hi, is there a way to capture 360 photos on iphone? Any video links?
Nice explanation
Is the AI an add-on, and is there a cost? Have you tried adjusting exposures, shadows, etc? Wouldn't it be great if this was available in Affinity! Great video, as always. Love your videos.
Completely free (within photoshop)- and yes you could colour correct, but it would mess with the re-integration back into Affinity 👍🏻 and thanks!
Wath's your camera to make this 360 photos?
It's an awesome new update 👌
Absolut amazing.
I am looking forward what KI will be capable of. 👍😊
What is KI?
@@BenClaremont KI is German and stands for "Künstliche Intelligenz". Same as AI in English. 😉
Yes, I am from Germany and I am jealous, you live in such a nice place. 😊
Fair enough!
@@Mohnfeldimate, I lived in Germany for 4 months about 7 years ago. Germany is awesome, but our summer weather is definitely something Germany doesn't have.
Great video as always Ben. THANK YOU!
Hey? It is possible to change tiles in tne virtual tpur thoght AI? (With some predifined samples)
That generative fill was hideous G!
Huh?
Hi Ben, just to ask is it possible to combine 2 different 360 images file into 1 single file and view in panorama view?
Crazyyyy good.
0:19 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Question: does the Affinity Photo has any guide snapping feature to help when aligning the edited shot from Photoshop?
Those icons under the zoom range at 7:23 timestamp.
Not yet realistic but will improve for sure, pity PS 360 not working anymore 😒
Can you use this as an alternative for virtual staging ?🤔
Yes, but it’s still very early days and might be harder to get a specific look or size of furniture. That said, my examples from this video were pretty darn good
I am adding to my tours a 360 Aerial so people can go in the virtual tour on the balcony and just take off
Awesome!
Great video, Ben. I beleive Affinity has big announcement coming and I'm hoping it's their version of AI editing... #rce3d
That would be cool!
100% useful
Thanxs Ben, i already was working with generative fill and affinitiy photo but had no idea how get the right position from affiniti to photoshop , quiet easy at the end ;)
greetings Ben
Great share Ben. Thank you so much! You should be a guest speaker sometime with our international network of Virtual tour creators. #RCE3d
Sure, feel free to get in touch in the future 👍🏻
#RCE3d hope to see you as a guest speaker.
NICE
so that means I can create a 360 Equirectangular projection with Midjourney,, place it in Affinity and correct it with PS then upscale it with Topaz,...so no 360 camera needed anymore....you're welcome! :P
Why not? 😂
Hi Ben i am from Ukraine) I have a company making 360 tours with local seo for my clients and i send them One x they making a fotoes bythemselves and then sending me camera back in that way they spend much less and get theis 360 tour for about 50 usd) THE QUESTION IS: Sometimes i have clients that needs good quality 360 and in that case i search for a another 360 fotographer but maybe there is some camera that can help in such case? Like Titan? Or there is something with less price or a camera with fish eye is the better option the problem i am afraid that i would not get how to to stitching and editing process so give me an advice please
Hello, the Google Trusted Verification program said it is not provided to Google Trusted Photographers. How did you get it? How can you do both at the same time?
Hey Ben❣
I purchased your Virtual Pro course & Business course also (AMAZING!!!)
Is there a way that we can communicate, I did my first hotel tour with the THETA X and I have purchased all the software you suggested such as: Affinity Bundle, Topaz Bundle, 3DVista, then watching this current video above, I downloaded the adobe photoshop trial (my screen doesn't look like yours to open photoshop😕). I don't have a real instructional to merge/integrate affinity & photoshop, also the other edits I have done in affinity isn't compatible with 3DVista🤯. I took this content on Mother's Day and i'm still trying to edit and make a virtual tour walk through. To add more 😕 the 3DVista isn't stitching my images properly, then Nadir is not showing properly😭what am I doing wrong PLEASE HELP ME!
Great news, I am able to remove the monopod😁
Hi Ben. Why not do it directly in Photoshop? Even photoshop dropped support for 3D features, you can still use spherical panorama projection in latest photoshop (v24.7.0). It is simple and easier than jump to affinity photo.
Hey what is your workflow? Are you using a plugin?
@@BenClaremont No plugin, the feature is already available in photoshop. This is my workflow:
1. In photoshop see tab "3D - Spherical Panorama - Import Panorama". Open equirectangular image. Image will be opened in spherical projection space.
2. Do some editing. Generative fill works here. Merge all layer when done editing.
3. Use tab "3D - Spherical Panorama - Export Panorama" to save edited image.
@@haruyuki4988 you’re right- my mistake, I thought they’d removed them after the ‘we’re removing 3D features’ message had been showing up for the past 2 years. It’s a bit laggy, but seems to be workable (for now) 👍🏻
@@BenClaremont Probably depend on hardware. On my case, I went to Preferences - 3D. Then turn off Interactive Rendering - Allow Direct to Screen. Then I can move & work smoothly in sperical projection.
@@haruyuki4988 I’m testing that now- however unchecking it causes the colours to appear much darker in 360 mode, then when you merge the generative fill layer down, then return to the equirectangular, the patch you made appears much darker than the rest of the photo. Did you have the darkness issue?
This works if there is only 1 panorama in a room, but if there are 2 panoramas, artificial intelligence cannot add the same seat to the other panorama.
Amazing
Let's hope Affinity comes up with something similar. Then there won't be a need for Photoshop.
Do you have a coupon Code for your course?
Yes! Enter SUMMER30 at checkout for 30% off 😁
Wow!!!!!!!
Is there any android app that does this even for flat images ?
Not sure as I don’t use android
So no adobe products can edit 360 pictures now? or just removed from photoshop and put somewhere else?
Not in 360 mode.
You know there’s gonna be at least two or three pictures that can see that wall or the fire pit. You never gonna be able to find the same picture or the same fire pit. I love how you’re trying to monetize from this though…. I just did an Asteroom shoot today.
What about 360 video ..
Not yet
indeed brother!! had to shoot a casino floor and remove all the people in the photos!! THANOS POWERS!!!! :D game changer for 360VTs!!! :D
Amazing! ⚡️
I missed something. How did it go back to 360
Merge down in affinity, then navigate back to 360 mode like I did in the video 👍🏻
@@BenClaremont Thank you. Is Affinity good at hdr merging also? All my photos in bedrooms have a pink/blue tint on white ceiling when merging with insta360 and lightroom
@@scenicshoots yep you can merge in affinity 👍🏻
Realestate photos are far from accurate 😂, they don't have a concious
Can certainly be true!
Ain’t no way all that work is worth it.
It took literally 5 minutes.
😘 'PromoSM'