@@EthanPHX Just because it doesn't follow the "main story." I just meant that I doubt Nintendo will treat it as canon, since they tend to disregard most of their "spin-off," (in this case, non-numbered) games. Personally, I am all for it tying into the rest of the series. I enjoyed the game quite a bit. I just doubt Nintendo will acknowledge its existence again, and I hope I'm wrong.
I think it be neat if we got a remaster of the first two Pikmin games bundled together, given how Pikmin 4 takes inspiration from Pikmin 2, it even brings back the pikmin from 2 and to better explain who Olimar is to Noobs
The real question is, if PNF-404 really is Pangaea Ultima, then how could there possibly be treasures, none the less, in near perfect condition? Pangaea Ultima would take approx. 250million years to complete, while plastic only has around 500 years until decomposition.
@@flamsey it doesn't make sense because the food in the house should have rot maybe left again and maybe colonized many planets but this one with Sparklium was to dangerous but who still here explain the food maybe are about to leave but first make sure planning their clean-up
Another theory: humans goofed up and messed up tge planet...maybe before they died or left for the hey pikmin planet, they trier to leave behind a legacy....the pikmin. They made pikmin and tge onions that could self replicate and make different versions of itself and thats why the onions seem natural but also mechanical.
This is the only thing that makes sense. Since there was a climate crisis, it's natural that humans would try to create something like the pikmin to restore balance in the environment, or as workers that aren't susceptible to the conditions that are dangerous to humans.The pikmin are clearly genetically engineered since they're incapable of surviving on their own.
But if humanity went away, why do some treasures not look old at alll? Like, carved pumpkins alone start rotting within a few days of being carved, and the one olimar finds is completely fresh. Plus i dont know why the humans absolutely have to be extinct, I mean, they chould also just be off screen. How big is the chance they would find a human in some random very small piece of a forest.
@flamsey but that given with the recent trailers for the 4th game has me speculating... 1. Maybe they are dying out right now. Something went wrong, maybe an experiment went wrong that increased radiation levels and messed up the entire planet. And resulted in many creatures being mutated or new species being created. Some being tge plasm wraith and maybe even the pikmin. 2. The plasm wraith did this. It's stated that it could be a being beyond normal comprehension in pikmin 2. Maybe theres more of it out there? Maybe it wiped out much of life on earth and caused the rapid changes? 3. This isn't exactly like our earth. Maybe this earth works widely differently. And things could rapidly change or evolve and humans are just off screen. I mean, we see the stove is on inside the house. So unless the player turns it on or some other enemy or captain, then maybe humans are still alive. Begs the question though...how do they live like this? Wouldn't the governments radars pick up the ships that have been coming and going?
There’s been 5 games and no humans in Pikmin 4 you go into a house and there’s no humans. Also why does the treasure have to be old? The extinction could have been recent you goofy.
@@redbarxscarsclub2 I don’t believe the treasure is recent I believe It millions of years old and before you say anything It’s clean and new because Nintendo logic
@@flamsey True but theirs also those simplistic structures like the walls you tears down and even the twig bridges that were in the first game that appear to have been built by someone, just look at the pikmin 4 trailer, all the stuff there is in good shape. Whatever the case, it would be deadly if we got a to scale human or something as the final boss in Pikmin 4
@@alexanderdahms4001 I get what you mean but you really need to put more effort in spelling, that's the kind of thing people will tear you apart over in an argument. Also what is the motive of the creatures building said walls you have to break down and other obstacles? Is it to protect pikmin?
@@digstrememcdingus1463 mabye pikmin made them to close off predators I mean they can draw showed in pikmin 3 and they can bulid so makes sens that they build the walls to defend them self
@@flamsey That hand-waving is really weak. There's a fresh carved pumpkin and a sandcastle that hasn't collapsed. There's a phone left running that still has battery power in Pikmin 3. Isn't it more likely to say that people leave bugs roaming around because of Nintendo logic? Especially since it (unlike the pristine condition of human objects) actually serves a game play purpose?
I thought that maybe PNF-404 is also Hey Pikmin planet I think it would make more sense than them being different planets even though it is said that they are I think
@@flamsey Unless it was extremely recent, I'm not sure Most species are the same and it would mean that they didn’t have time to evolve and I believe that some species (at least the Pikmin iirc) evolve really fast to fit their environment and every pikmin type we have in Hey Pikmin! we already knew of, I think it is unlikely that they evolve the same way on different planets even if they are in similar conditions We don't really find any human remain Or anything animal akin to what we have Every species that we have seen across the games are not big But maybe Hey Pikmin! is also simply not to be considered canon, it being on another planet would simply not be important as it could simply not exist in the main canon But I don’t really like that option
@@Lazu__li It's a different planet, humanity colonized it after Earth collapsed and took some of the creatures from Earth to the new planet. Also, Ravaged Rustworks? By the way the only time they mention a ton of creatures evolving in Pikmin is Olimar's notes for the Geographic Projection. That's it.
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I never even considered that Hey! Pikmin had a real place in the canon, but I am now terrified of Sparklium.
Why wouldn't it be canon? Because it's 2D?
@@EthanPHX Just because it doesn't follow the "main story." I just meant that I doubt Nintendo will treat it as canon, since they tend to disregard most of their "spin-off," (in this case, non-numbered) games. Personally, I am all for it tying into the rest of the series. I enjoyed the game quite a bit. I just doubt Nintendo will acknowledge its existence again, and I hope I'm wrong.
@@LPMaster6 I mean, sparkium is in Pikmin 4
@@EthanPHX That makes me very happy to hear. Not sure how I missed that. I am a fake Pikmin fan.
@@EthanPHXjust beacuse its 2D doenst mean that it cant be canon
I think it be neat if we got a remaster of the first two Pikmin games bundled together, given how Pikmin 4 takes inspiration from Pikmin 2, it even brings back the pikmin from 2 and to better explain who Olimar is to Noobs
About that :)
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Bro is clairvoyant
This aged well
The real question is, if PNF-404 really is Pangaea Ultima, then how could there possibly be treasures, none the less, in near perfect condition? Pangaea Ultima would take approx. 250million years to complete, while plastic only has around 500 years until decomposition.
Nintendo logic. It's just a stylistic choice
@@flamsey Yes exactly, bravo someone finally said it👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃
Sparklium. It’s always Sparklium
Always is Sparklium Gunna.
@@flamsey it doesn't make sense because the food in the house should have rot maybe left again and maybe colonized many planets but this one with Sparklium was to dangerous but who still here explain the food maybe are about to leave but first make sure planning their clean-up
@@flamsey but first cure people which is easy but takes time for clean-up
@@skistorm739 because Nintendo Logic
Another theory: humans goofed up and messed up tge planet...maybe before they died or left for the hey pikmin planet, they trier to leave behind a legacy....the pikmin. They made pikmin and tge onions that could self replicate and make different versions of itself and thats why the onions seem natural but also mechanical.
Ummm….. Possibly…
This is the only thing that makes sense. Since there was a climate crisis, it's natural that humans would try to create something like the pikmin to restore balance in the environment, or as workers that aren't susceptible to the conditions that are dangerous to humans.The pikmin are clearly genetically engineered since they're incapable of surviving on their own.
But if humanity went away, why do some treasures not look old at alll? Like, carved pumpkins alone start rotting within a few days of being carved, and the one olimar finds is completely fresh.
Plus i dont know why the humans absolutely have to be extinct, I mean, they chould also just be off screen.
How big is the chance they would find a human in some random very small piece of a forest.
The treasures don't look old because Nintendo logic idk
@flamsey but that given with the recent trailers for the 4th game has me speculating...
1. Maybe they are dying out right now. Something went wrong, maybe an experiment went wrong that increased radiation levels and messed up the entire planet. And resulted in many creatures being mutated or new species being created. Some being tge plasm wraith and maybe even the pikmin.
2. The plasm wraith did this. It's stated that it could be a being beyond normal comprehension in pikmin 2. Maybe theres more of it out there? Maybe it wiped out much of life on earth and caused the rapid changes?
3. This isn't exactly like our earth. Maybe this earth works widely differently. And things could rapidly change or evolve and humans are just off screen. I mean, we see the stove is on inside the house. So unless the player turns it on or some other enemy or captain, then maybe humans are still alive. Begs the question though...how do they live like this? Wouldn't the governments radars pick up the ships that have been coming and going?
There’s been 5 games and no humans in Pikmin 4 you go into a house and there’s no humans. Also why does the treasure have to be old? The extinction could have been recent you goofy.
@@maximumforce8275 You know the Plasm Wraith is a foot tall at it tallest how could it cause humanity extinction
@@redbarxscarsclub2 I don’t believe the treasure is recent I believe It millions of years old and before you say anything
It’s clean and new because Nintendo logic
Whose to say they're extinct? The stuff they left behind is in relatively good condition
idk a lot of the food in pikmin 2 is in great condition sure but i mean, look at how everything is pushed deep underground
@@flamsey True but theirs also those simplistic structures like the walls you tears down and even the twig bridges that were in the first game that appear to have been built by someone, just look at the pikmin 4 trailer, all the stuff there is in good shape.
Whatever the case, it would be deadly if we got a to scale human or something as the final boss in Pikmin 4
@@digstrememcdingus1463 i mean mabye the human ecection dint happed relaly a long time along mabye a ist a recente event
@@alexanderdahms4001 I get what you mean but you really need to put more effort in spelling, that's the kind of thing people will tear you apart over in an argument. Also what is the motive of the creatures building said walls you have to break down and other obstacles? Is it to protect pikmin?
@@digstrememcdingus1463 mabye pikmin made them to close off predators
I mean they can draw showed in pikmin 3 and they can bulid so makes sens that they build the walls to defend them self
Either humans died out in the pikmin universe or left to a planet like earth
for a place with extinct humans, stuff havent decomposed yet and the house in pikmin 4 is in perfect condition
Stylistic choice obviously. Nintendo logic, yknow. Why would these humans leave bugs roaming around their house if they're apparently still around
@@flamsey That hand-waving is really weak. There's a fresh carved pumpkin and a sandcastle that hasn't collapsed. There's a phone left running that still has battery power in Pikmin 3.
Isn't it more likely to say that people leave bugs roaming around because of Nintendo logic? Especially since it (unlike the pristine condition of human objects) actually serves a game play purpose?
@@wegner7036 Yeah and you could wait a 100 days in Pikmin 4 and the castle still won't collapse
The pikmin did it
I thought that maybe PNF-404 is also Hey Pikmin planet
I think it would make more sense than them being different planets even though it is said that they are
I think
Colonization makes more sense. Olimar isn't stupid
@@flamsey Unless it was extremely recent, I'm not sure
Most species are the same and it would mean that they didn’t have time to evolve and I believe that some species (at least the Pikmin iirc) evolve really fast to fit their environment and every pikmin type we have in Hey Pikmin! we already knew of, I think it is unlikely that they evolve the same way on different planets even if they are in similar conditions
We don't really find any human remain
Or anything animal akin to what we have
Every species that we have seen across the games are not big
But maybe Hey Pikmin! is also simply not to be considered canon, it being on another planet would simply not be important as it could simply not exist in the main canon
But I don’t really like that option
@@Lazu__li It's a different planet, humanity colonized it after Earth collapsed and took some of the creatures from Earth to the new planet. Also, Ravaged Rustworks?
By the way the only time they mention a ton of creatures evolving in Pikmin is Olimar's notes for the Geographic Projection. That's it.
@@flamsey Word
Idk maybe they went extinct guz of ww4 I guess
pikmin 4 trailer ruining this theory:
PIKMIN 4 is not a prequel.