Mind Body Quantum Mechanics, Stuart Alan Kauffman
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ม.ค. 2017
- Neurobiologists believe the mind brain system is and must be classical physics. For many, at some complexity, consciousness arises. This could be correct but faces what I will call the Stalemate: Such a mind can at most witness the world but, due to the causal closure of classical physics, cannot act upon that world. Such a consciousness must be merely epiphenomenal.
Quantum biology is exploding, showing that quantum effects can and do arise at body temperature. Quantum mechanics allows a partially quantum mind to have ACAUSAL consequences
for the “meat” of the brain, thus solving the Stalemate and answering the problem posed by Descartes’ Res cogitans and Res extensa: i.e. the Stalemate. Our human capacity to choose, in turn, demands that the present could have been different, thus the truth of counterfactual claims. If quantum measurement is indeterministic and real, quantum mechanics and measurement allow the present to be different. I shall discuss these issues and the newly discovered Poised Realm, hovering reversibly between quantum and “classical” behaviors, as a new basis both for the mind body system and a new class of constructable and evolvable
“computers” which are not algorithmic, Trans Turing.
Stuart Alan Kauffman
M.D., Theoretical Biologist, Complex Systems Researcher, The Institute for Systems Biology, Seattle
Stuart Alan Kauffman is an American theoretical biologist and complex systems researcher who studies the origin of life on Earth. Kauffman graduated from Dartmouth in 1960, was awarded the BA (Hons) by Oxford University (where he was a Marshall Scholar) in 1963, and completed a medical degree (MD) at the University of California, San Francisco in 1968. After completing his residency in Emergency Medicine, he moved into developmental genetics of the fruitfly, holding appointments first at the University of Chicago, National Cancer Institute, then at the University of Pennsylvania, where he served as Professor of Biochemistry and Biophysics.
What does Kauffman think he is on MSM?
Consciousness is fundamental. Mind emerges with quantum events. We have three bodies: causal body (thoughtrons); Astral body (energy) Physical body (elemental; matter).We know a little about electromagnetism, but absolutely nothing about magnetism. There is so much we don’t know, to assume there is no Universal Intelligence in which we share is premature. .
guys, im tired of learning all this, bring on the mushrooms
Get an education. No one supports dumb wits. Why are you tired? Because you did not study at school (your choice) and now in adult life you are unable to follow and unable to earn enough (right or right?)
Where can I find proof of quantum experimental results?
I find it disturbing those who promote peace and unity are so divisive and narrow minded.
Stuart Hammeroff destroyed Max Tegmark in a debate about OrchOR.
paulwillisorg Which trained and experienced physicist, mathematician or philosopher made that appreciation?
@@raresmircea Tegmark himself. Listen to the debate.
Nothing new here, he is attempting to explain the brain system via materialistic means, but it remains an open question.Could it be that neither the physics of the classical or quantum be an adequate or capable disciplines in explaining the mind. Borrowing on the incompleteness theorem, these systems of knowledge will always be incomplete in the exploration and the understanding of mind and body, something other then physical sciences is required..
Stuart Kauffman
Quantum Biology
one cannot predict billiard balls, they are chaotic
Circular reasoning: By assuming that the system is entirely sufficient, he is presupposing that there is no other dynamic acting on the system, which is precisely what he wants to conclude.
I don't notice circular reasoning. Can you elaborate? I get the feeling you are conflating 'causality circuit' (Bateson) with "causality closure" ?
What's wrong with no free will?
Possibly nothing LOL. Discussed here: www.egodeath.com/BlockUnivVsCausalChainDeterminism.htm
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Gratidão, Professor!
Can anyone put this in simple term summary for me? Aka. Dumb it down
That was it being dumbed down.
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Let me help. The premises of physics is you are a zombie (for real). You hallucinate you have free will as in choice. You are nothing but a biological "robot". The above lecture states that you do have free will! Your life matters! That is because you have choice. But how can we know you have choice? Because of quantum theory. He explains that.
@@marytsmith6762 thanks for the summary m8, since the other person won't thank you
Excellent - thanks
Excellent mature adult insights into history and relevance for today. Thanks very much Stuart. Hopeful content as well. Best to you!
I thought I was about to listen to dime science not politics!
Me too. I almost stopped watching this Video. It's hard to take him seriously with a opening like that. I come to this channel for expanding my information not to be hit with Political propaganda. I would like to caution everyone, It will be hard to reach nirvana and attain Enlightenment with our heads up our asses!
cope. i love political drama.
You didn't hear any science at all?
I sympathize on some of his political thinking, but a lot of his thinking and scholarship on the so called mind body problem is poor. The so called problem of physics is a strawman and a classical hack of scientific thinking. At the quantum level how disturbing would it be if the opposite were true and everything was 'predictable'? Should we then expect the man sitting on a throne in the clouds holding a scepter?
Please do not question his scholarship when you put forward nonsense! How dare you do that? How DARE YOU. [ What is your nonsense? You say "so called problem of physics". its not a strawman: its the contemporary and historical premises of physics based upon "Closed Causality" , and therefore that means you are a "zombie" (your mind is mere epiphenomenon). Do you understand? He is saying classical physics as incorrect and opening up room for you to have a mind (instead of being a zombie-idiot that others think you are because it is impossible to have free will if everything is deterministic, and causality is closed). Make sense?
@@marytsmith6762 Here is another view: www.egodeath.com/BlockUnivVsCausalChainDeterminism.htm
...ok I am commenting as I listen. I admit! . At 28min Kauffman spouts garbage about the quantum Zero Effect. Observation does not stop things from happening (eg. radioactive decay) it just can extend lifetimes arbitrarily long. One would need perfectly continuous measurement to reduce decay probability to zero, and that's not technically possible.
Its call Quantum Zeno Effect - not "Zero" and is a theory advanced by quite a few others. There is no 'garbage' about it. To date there has been no 'proof' that you exist (the mind). The proof is you are a zombie (an idiot - as in really, an idiot, as in really; I mean really, as in in reality, as in reality, really. But he is trying to save you by saying you are not a zombie idiot but you have free will and are therefore presumably able to be smart. Do you understand?
Bijou Smith It is Quantum Zeno effect. Pay attention.
One of the first things out of your mouth was a lie. End of video - because there is no way I can believe anything else you say. In fact, I probably know more about the subject than you do, because I do not proceed from falsehoods.
@N Silva how tolerant of dissenting opinions you are.
This guy thinks like I did 20+ years ago...except for the political crap in the beginning.
i love to start political flame wars
He called Trump out for calling Mexicans rapists. What is wrong with that?
oy vey, I'm going to be sick with all the Nazi comparisons. He has such a low opinion of his fellow Americans.
agree
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Disappointed in Kauffman for introducing his political opinions. Terrible mistake.
Why? He called Trump out for calling Mexicans rapists. What is wrong with that?
well... you can't really argue against the statement though.
Shut up you little nazi twirp
This speaker probably thinks Jan 6th was as bad as pearl harbor because he was alive during that time. His work is great , you just have to let his insulated bias's slide.
Quantum mechanics is from the Creator and the Creator will destroy you with your quantum mechanics drive you all crazy
He lost me off the start bashing Trump. His IQ and credibility just went out the window.
He called Trump out for calling Mexicans rapists. What is wrong with that?
Can't you trump fankids take any criticism on your supreme leader? I agree sometimes it can be a bit much but he is an absolute moron so he's kind of asking for it tbh
Cry bitch
I lost respect for him nearly completely for the unnecessary Trump nonsense. God damned politics.
You talk about being rational but you refuse to listen to a person on the merit of his ideas once you hear his politics. You don't care about knowledge, you only care about what sounds nice to you. For all the intelligence you think you have, it's wasted when you succumb to these stupid cognitive biases
His scientific ideas may be sound and he may indeed be an otherwise intelligent man, but this jerk lost me with his opening line demeaning anyone who may be supportive of Trump. Whatever he has to say can be found being said by others on TH-cam who are more thoughtful than to begin their videos so inflammatorily
lol
trump ftw
Keep your propaganda about ww2 and stick to the science part.
What an overwhelming load of bs