Hayley, consider buying a $200 handheld radio for just this situation. It could also come in handy in flight after a radio or electrical failure, or on the ground after a forced landing with no cell service. They are cheap insurance. Just make sure you keep it charged.
Something that would help you out with the battery drain is switch all of your lighting to LED. The old halogen lights take a lot of power whereas the LED's have minimal drain on a battery. Plus, LED's are brighter and really look badass!!!!!
Thanks for sharing this. I've had this happen was well some time back in a Cherokee I had. I'm glad you mentioned this as a checklist item as I've seen people not validate low idle at the end of the run up sequence, another point to add to that, if you're in a carbureted plane, do it with the carb heat on as that can be a standard landing check list item as well.
An expensive lesson learned (relatively) cheap! Also, respect for owning up to it, even using the dread term 'pilot error', learning from the incident and sharing it!
I'm glad to hear that you have been able to sort out the problem which resulted in the engine cutting out. I suggest you treat it as a wake up call to start going over all the aircraft systems for potential failure points. The fact is that the suggested time to failure/replacement is a rough guide only and is likely to be arrived at by guestimating quite a number of inherently variable factors. Rubber degrades over time, likely affected by temperature and humidity or even just the presence of air. Plastics too break down when exposed to UV light and atmosphere. Different metals will react when in proximity to one another due to electrolytic action. Aluminium, (the major component of aircraft airframes, of course), is a nightmare in this regard. Many electronic components will break down over time and any electrical connections can suffer from the effects of moisture leading to intermittent or permanent breakdown. All components can suffer from the long term effects of repeated stress which result in damage or failure but what might not be so obvious is the potential of failure as a result of variation in manufacturing process, a cast component placed near an open doorway as it cools down resulting in the component cooling faster than it should, leading to porosity/voids and a loss of designed strength in say just a small area, It all looks fine until one day the component is subject to just a little more stress than it can take. Commercial aircraft get regular checks of course but if I am not mistaken private aircraft are a bit less stringent. Either way I would feel it prudent to swap out any aging systems to be on the safe side. Swap out any fasteners or components you don't know the history of. Any links or fasteners on control surfaces... Not trying to be your grandma here just hoping for you avoid any other problems which could crop up out of the blue. Best wishes Hayley.
AGREED, a real bummer when you miss out on a big trip due to maintenance. I missed out on Bahamas last year, after lots of planning. But it all worked out fine this year; I just got back from that adventure last week. It is so much fun when all airplane parts work as they're supposed to. 😉
TBO is not only like 2000hrs or 12 years first arrive. Your fuel system need o-ring replacement. Note: check your divider on top , pump and electric fuel pump for leak. Normaly they leak one ofter the other.
Hayley, Great video. Thank you for the insight. I will be getting with my A&P to run a leak test on my throttle body. Thank you for sharing. Cheers! Blue Skies... Faithfully, James
@@FlywithHayley, did you notice any idling issues on other flights prior to the engine cut off on video? Curious if the issues gave some hints that it was getting ready to fail. $1,900 including labor doesn't seem bad at all in the airplane ownership world. Thanks for sharing and hope you get the Oregon trip rescheduled.
When I worked on copy machines back in the day, we had a term similar to the one you used, "Operator Error" 😁😁 I don't have a plane, but my baby also requires lots of expensive maintenance and repairs, which indeed is half the fun! 🤗🤗 (or so I tell myself haha) Great vid, thanks for sharing!
I'm sure this will be fuel for the fire in the 'mechanical vs EFI' debate. Here's a throttle body with no TPS or MAF sensors that just works....until it doesn't.
Thank you for your video's Hayley I thoroughly enjoy them and learn something new on each one. I do have two brief questions, there is talk all the time about fuel pump & waypoints. I understand the purpose of each, but my question is why, do you turn off the fuel pump does the engine not need it for fuel delivery? And waypoints what makes up a waypoint, are they radio transmitters on the ground?
I’m glad you enjoy them and learn new things! Generally aircraft have 2 fuel pumps, the electric one is turned on for takeoff and landing for redundancy and waypoints can be GPS locations or even physical landmarks
I mean let's think safety first. If you had shut off your lights and avionics master, you'd have been sitting dark on the runway with no way to contact tower. Honestly, I think the better option was keeping the lights illuminated so tower and landing traffic behind you could see you. IDK maybe I'm missing something but I think you did well to leave things powered up.
Maintenance and monitoring are essential on an aircraft. It is the pilot’s responsibility to control this. Aeronautical friendships, kisses Ms. Dominique TEICHMANN
4:30 " When the mixture is set to idle " Correction - Idle cutoff. Hot starts - The next time you are operating the aircraft - set the throttle to idle and slowly pull back the mixture looking for the peak in rpm ( mixture rise ) . This sets the mixture at the optimum fuel flow setting for a hot engine. When you attempt to hot start the aircraft - put the mixture knob slightly rich of this position with the throttle just off idle. Boost / prime for 1- 2 seconds and start. Adjust technique as req. This is the most effective method of hot starting TCM fuel injected engines. Lycoming is a whole different creature.
Engine failure? I just pull over to the side of the road out of traffic and diagnose the issue at my leisure. Meanwhile, if you guys have troubles, you can always emergency land on my farm.
This was a nice presentation of an issue of great interest except the length of the sponsor pitch and your grammar! You should say "My mechanic and I..." not "Me and my mechanic...". Always refer to yourself after another person or list of persons referenced in the sentence.You have made this error in several videos. 😁
As an A&P student and PPL student, something to be aware of: From your previous video, I'm not sure about the time that elapsed between the jump start and your take-off. Just an FYI for anyone dealing with a flat battery - something my A&P mechanic instructor pointed out: "The battery reserve time varies depending on the aircraft type, battery capacity, and electrical load. As a general rule, a well-maintained aircraft battery can provide around 30-60 minutes of power after an alternator failure, assuming the battery is fully charged and the electrical load is moderate." (Brave / LEO AI search) With this in mind, be aware just because the airplane is running, it's strongly recommended that the alternator or battery charger be given some time to recharge the battery to replenish this reserve time, in the event of something like an alternator failing mid-flight. With this in mind, everyone should be aware just because the airplane is running, it's strongly recommended that the alternator or battery charger be given some time to recharge the battery to replenish this reserve time, in the event of something like an alternator failing mid-flight. My instructor has seen private aircraft that have been hand-propped leave the ground, only to have a complete electrical failure 10 minutes later. Thankfully they were able to land safely and of course the magnetos, independent of the alternator / battery circuits were able to keep the powerplant spinning. As always, thanks for the content! It's been inspiring and educational to watch all of your Diamond ferrying before starting my training in a DA40 XLS. As a flatlander, I'm also genuinely thankful for any weather information about mountain flying.
Consider an LSA. New and lean. So clean you can even do the annual yourself. You might even find one with a parachute although that might have its own issues
Hayley, consider buying a $200 handheld radio for just this situation. It could also come in handy in flight after a radio or electrical failure, or on the ground after a forced landing with no cell service. They are cheap insurance. Just make sure you keep it charged.
Something that would help you out with the battery drain is switch all of your lighting to LED. The old halogen lights take a lot of power whereas the LED's have minimal drain on a battery. Plus, LED's are brighter and really look badass!!!!!
will have to soon!!
And don’t aim at Whelen. Very expensive. Any led that fits your fitting can be placed, provided there’s no radio interference
Thanks for sharing this. I've had this happen was well some time back in a Cherokee I had. I'm glad you mentioned this as a checklist item as I've seen people not validate low idle at the end of the run up sequence, another point to add to that, if you're in a carbureted plane, do it with the carb heat on as that can be a standard landing check list item as well.
An expensive lesson learned (relatively) cheap! Also, respect for owning up to it, even using the dread term 'pilot error', learning from the incident and sharing it!
thanks I agree! It’s important to be able to call yourself out and learn from your mistakes, and yes in a (relatively) cheap way
And I’m sure Debi is happy to have her throttle body back! Thanks for sharing some of “the bad” and for the great explanation 🤗
Amen on the challenges of hot starting the io-520! Can be a absolute beast.
It sure can be!
very nice video THANKS ; nice how you showed the parts in use
I'm glad to hear that you have been able to sort out the problem which resulted in the engine cutting out. I suggest you treat it as a wake up call to start going over all the aircraft systems for potential failure points. The fact is that the suggested time to failure/replacement is a rough guide only and is likely to be arrived at by guestimating quite a number of inherently variable factors. Rubber degrades over time, likely affected by temperature and humidity or even just the presence of air. Plastics too break down when exposed to UV light and atmosphere. Different metals will react when in proximity to one another due to electrolytic action. Aluminium, (the major component of aircraft airframes, of course), is a nightmare in this regard. Many electronic components will break down over time and any electrical connections can suffer from the effects of moisture leading to intermittent or permanent breakdown. All components can suffer from the long term effects of repeated stress which result in damage or failure but what might not be so obvious is the potential of failure as a result of variation in manufacturing process, a cast component placed near an open doorway as it cools down resulting in the component cooling faster than it should, leading to porosity/voids and a loss of designed strength in say just a small area, It all looks fine until one day the component is subject to just a little more stress than it can take. Commercial aircraft get regular checks of course but if I am not mistaken private aircraft are a bit less stringent. Either way I would feel it prudent to swap out any aging systems to be on the safe side. Swap out any fasteners or components you don't know the history of. Any links or fasteners on control surfaces...
Not trying to be your grandma here just hoping for you avoid any other problems which could crop up out of the blue.
Best wishes Hayley.
Aura is the real deal! Highly recommend it! We love you Hayley, keep up the good work kiddo!
Thanks for the support!
AGREED, a real bummer when you miss out on a big trip due to maintenance. I missed out on Bahamas last year, after lots of planning. But it all worked out fine this year; I just got back from that adventure last week. It is so much fun when all airplane parts work as they're supposed to. 😉
$1900 was a deal compared to my audi turbo @$3000 . As we travel the wonderful world we must learn as we go . Cheers and Blessings
Excellent taste in background music.....THE BEST !!!
TBO is not only like 2000hrs or 12 years first arrive. Your fuel system need o-ring replacement. Note: check your divider on top , pump and electric fuel pump for leak. Normaly they leak one ofter the other.
Hayley,
Great video. Thank you for the insight. I will be getting with my A&P to run a leak test on my throttle body. Thank you for sharing.
Cheers!
Blue Skies...
Faithfully,
James
I’m glad it was helpful! Hopefully you don’t find a leak like I did 😊
@@FlywithHayley, did you notice any idling issues on other flights prior to the engine cut off on video? Curious if the issues gave some hints that it was getting ready to fail. $1,900 including labor doesn't seem bad at all in the airplane ownership world. Thanks for sharing and hope you get the Oregon trip rescheduled.
Love your videos Hayley
Hapoy Thankgiving to you, your family and Debi lol
Look forward to the next one!
Cheers from Dave from Ontario,
Canada ❤😊
Thanks! Happy Holidays!
Thanks for the follow up video, Haley.
Excellent debrief and systems review, thanks!
You said it life of a pilot. Be safe have fun😊
PS, don’t beat yourself up too much! I think handled the situation as well as you could have.
When I worked on copy machines back in the day, we had a term similar to the one you used, "Operator Error" 😁😁 I don't have a plane, but my baby also requires lots of expensive maintenance and repairs, which indeed is half the fun! 🤗🤗 (or so I tell myself haha) Great vid, thanks for sharing!
Thank GOD!!! Hope you have a wonderful Thanksgivings... Fly safe
I'm sure this will be fuel for the fire in the 'mechanical vs EFI' debate. Here's a throttle body with no TPS or MAF sensors that just works....until it doesn't.
0:35 high temp silicone to hold the cable ? Looks like something I would do on my car 😂😂
That’s typical.. just keeps it from rubbing and wearing. It’s not really “holding” it as much as it’s sticking it to prevent movement and vibrations
Happy Thanksgiving 🦃 to you and your family Thumbs up 👍 for all your hard work.
Happy Thanksgiving I am just glad your ok
Thanks Happy Thanksgiving!!
Yeah, that was scary out there on the runway in the dark.
Be happy be peaceful
🇳🇵Nepal kathmandu koteshwor from watching
Be careful Be strong
My man brain went to dark places whenever I heard the term "throttle body", but my pilot brain slapped the sh!t out of my man brain.
You’re lucky it all happened where it did when it did and how it did..
Happy flying
Thank you for your video's Hayley I thoroughly enjoy them and learn something new on each one. I do have two brief questions, there is talk all the time about fuel pump & waypoints. I understand the purpose of each, but my question is why, do you turn off the fuel pump does the engine not need it for fuel delivery? And waypoints what makes up a waypoint, are they radio transmitters on the ground?
I’m glad you enjoy them and learn new things! Generally aircraft have 2 fuel pumps, the electric one is turned on for takeoff and landing for redundancy and waypoints can be GPS locations or even physical landmarks
Great video but I gotta say, I love the avocado in the background. In a few months it will be $10 per avocado 😢🎸
Any more ferry trips in the near future? Happy Thanksgiving!
I mean let's think safety first. If you had shut off your lights and avionics master, you'd have been sitting dark on the runway with no way to contact tower. Honestly, I think the better option was keeping the lights illuminated so tower and landing traffic behind you could see you. IDK maybe I'm missing something but I think you did well to leave things powered up.
Yeah that occurred to me as well. With other traffic in the area the last thing I would have wanted was to lose comms.
HAPPY THANKSGIVING
Happy holidays! 🥳
Maintenance and monitoring are essential on an aircraft. It is the pilot’s responsibility to control this.
Aeronautical friendships, kisses
Ms. Dominique TEICHMANN
Haley, Is there a process to make donations
Hey I'm 58 years old, just like Debbie!
4:30 " When the mixture is set to idle " Correction - Idle cutoff.
Hot starts -
The next time you are operating the aircraft - set the throttle to idle and slowly pull back the mixture looking for the peak in rpm ( mixture rise ) .
This sets the mixture at the optimum fuel flow setting for a hot engine.
When you attempt to hot start the aircraft - put the mixture knob slightly rich of this position with the throttle just off idle.
Boost / prime for 1- 2 seconds and start. Adjust technique as req. This is the most effective method of hot starting TCM fuel injected engines.
Lycoming is a whole different creature.
Do you have family that fly and that's how you got into it or are you the only one? When did you feel that you wanted to start flying ?
Less commercial please. That sucks. Glad you found the issue. Good luck in further flying. 😊
She could go "ad free" if people like you would chip in and pay for her maintenance cost !!
Which engine do you have?
Engine failure? I just pull over to the side of the road out of traffic and diagnose the issue at my leisure. Meanwhile, if you guys have troubles, you can always emergency land on my farm.
Are you aloud to do your own repairs? I’m sure we could save a lot of money but I’m not sure of the legalities.
Not yet no! You need to be licensed - I’d like to get mine someday
Lesson learned…all it takes is airspeed and money to fly…
Why not rent a plane for your trip
Ditch the carb, to much finagling
I like your throttle body ;)
This was a nice presentation of an issue of great interest except the length of the sponsor pitch and your grammar! You should say "My mechanic and I..." not "Me and my mechanic...". Always refer to yourself after another person or list of persons referenced in the sentence.You have made this error in several videos. 😁
As an A&P student and PPL student, something to be aware of: From your previous video, I'm not sure about the time that elapsed between the jump start and your take-off. Just an FYI for anyone dealing with a flat battery - something my A&P mechanic instructor pointed out:
"The battery reserve time varies depending on the aircraft type, battery capacity, and electrical load. As a general rule, a well-maintained aircraft battery can provide around 30-60 minutes of power after an alternator failure, assuming the battery is fully charged and the electrical load is moderate." (Brave / LEO AI search)
With this in mind, be aware just because the airplane is running, it's strongly recommended that the alternator or battery charger be given some time to recharge the battery to replenish this reserve time, in the event of something like an alternator failing mid-flight. With this in mind, everyone should be aware just because the airplane is running, it's strongly recommended that the alternator or battery charger be given some time to recharge the battery to replenish this reserve time, in the event of something like an alternator failing mid-flight. My instructor has seen private aircraft that have been hand-propped leave the ground, only to have a complete electrical failure 10 minutes later. Thankfully they were able to land safely and of course the magnetos, independent of the alternator / battery circuits were able to keep the powerplant spinning.
As always, thanks for the content! It's been inspiring and educational to watch all of your Diamond ferrying before starting my training in a DA40 XLS. As a flatlander, I'm also genuinely thankful for any weather information about mountain flying.
I think the issue here was cranking power. You'll get 30-60 minutes of battery with a typical electrical load, which is not cranking the engine.
@@Bluenoser613 Agreed, but I was referencing something from the previous video, they needed to jump start the plane before getting back up in the air.
Woah WHO (what country) is responsible for this largest data breach in HISTORY?? is the real question. We need that answer
Like they say, caca happens
Dog damn grow up you can say shit
Consider an LSA. New and lean. So clean you can even do the annual yourself. You might even find one with a parachute although that might have its own issues