Bronze Age Chariot Warriors: The Sintashta Culture
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- The people of the Sintashta culture were Bronze Age chariot warriors of the Northern steppes. A people who changed the world.
Highly patriarchal and warlike, they were also bronze workers who built huge fortified settlements like Arkaim east of the Ural mountains. They invented the chariot and bred the best horses the world had ever seen.
But where did they come from? And what happened to them?
This is the story of the Sintashta culture.
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00:00 What is the Sintashta culture?
03:35 Origins of the Sintashta culture
07:23 Sintashta fortified settlements
11:30 What happened to the Sintashta culture?
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Will there be a God of bronze book 3 also could you do bronze age cultures in Southeast Asia
I hope you cover this group-region again. I'm fascinated by the Steppes, b/c I didn't have any knowledge of this unique region until adulthood. The only name I knew was Genghis Khan, but just the name. In the US scool systems, we get very little expsure to Asian history and culture. So, it still has the effect of novelty.
I know I'd love you books, but I'm on the tightest budget for the next couple of years paying of debt. I might have to wedge something in though. This is my favorite genre.
Dan, i would love to see one on the Maritime Archaic culture along the northeast American coast and possible connections to the maritime cultures of the Mediterranean, and western Europe. Also, have you considered the work of Robert Sepher?
This would be a very political and controversial subject in the Indian subcontinent. Do we have more material on the migration to South-East ? In the sub-continent, the nationalists prefer to say that migration happened from India, not to India. They have a point. Where can we trace evidence of actual migration happening ?
How much could a small group of people in Steppes contribute to 1.5 billion population two thousand years later ? Maybe 5% , or 30% of the population ? What is it. Why is it that Iran only has a fraction of India's population today ? Did most of them prefer to migrate east to India-Pakistan region over Iran, I mean look at the population difference, or did Alexander took away most of Iran's population potential ? I wish I had the answer.
But then again, who would not want to settle in India because it had and still has one of the most fertile lands. And the links are obvious - the Sanskrit language has roots to the regions you showed. Its a mystery.
Facial reconstructions of Sintashtans meant that they looked European, keeping in mind that they spoke a language that is the ancestor of Persian and Hindi. Astonishing.
european facial features are also the same as Iranians and neighboring places like India, they share ancestry.
@@mjolninja9358i am an Indian and i don't think they look similar to Indian at all... Iranians I can agree are somewhat similar but europians are not at all
We sexed the natives and lost the european appearance😎
@@pinkyfinger9851North Indian upper castes look similar to Europeans
Keep in mind, Sanskrit and Lithuanian are nearly identical languages. The Indo European expansion was very quick, it's why Lithuanian, latin, and ancient Greek are so similar to Sanskrit.
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Thank you!
@@DanDavisHistory you as well Dan! I love your content and hope you continue doing what your doing! Huge fan!
I wholeheartedly agree.
Same here
Of all the historical youtubers very few talk about the bronze age and fewer still talk about anything outside of the ancient Mediterranean. Before I watched Dan davis I had no idea how diverse and fascinating the cultures of Northern Europe are.
Excellent video. The prehistoric steppe cultures have had an enormous impact on history, but they're only ever referenced briefly in most World History books.
Thank you.
So soon... we forget.
Written references mostly come from the cultures that a group of steppe raiders attack in years when drought drives them off their land. Furious desperate people can only ever be seen as dirty barbarians.
Because writers of history books only care about cities and empires.
Well, some settled civilizations, like BMAC or Helmend clearly had enormous impact on the world history. But we don't know anything about them at all.
That was a fascinating documentary. The fact that all modern horses are descended from the steppe warriors' horses was amazing
, not only the horses women too ha ha ha too many gurus in india but none solves indian problem only complicate it
@@robertolang9684 Lol
@@robertolang9684 The word 'guru' means teacher. How could you except teachers to solve problems of a country which even the politicians aren't able to solve? 😂
@@Raito-kun01 when i talk about gurus you know that i'm refering to that religious gurus that manipulate peoples mindes and lives , and it is not in india even in western world but in a lesser manipulative way , just that cold down you know its true, democracy in a country with very very big population is not easy
You realize a guy saying it on YT doesn't make it a fact, right?
Hey Dan. As I watched the end of the video with the split between the Iranian and Vedic cultures from the Andronovo culture and it made me wonder about something I've thought about for a long while now. It's namely from their beliefs and how they seemed to be opposite of each other.
The devas from the Hindu tradition were considered akin to angels, whereas in the Iranian tradition they were evil spirits and I suspect it's from there that we get the word "devil." Likewise, ashuras in Hindu mythology were considered a form of rage-filled demon while Ahura Mazda is the supreme benevolent deity in the Iranian Zoroastrian religion.
My guess was that before the split the two cultures were unified, but by around 1600 BCE there was a "schism" that caused the two cultures to split and antagonize each other ever since. Can you make a video delving into this? I'd love to see your findings on this!
Xerxes ordered the destruction of shrines and banned worship of devas. So any schism happened prior to that. Also it looks like it was broader then just a vedic-avestan schism. So the schism either happened early and slow or spread like a wild steppe fire just prior to Xerxes.
The nordic pantheon is named aesir, while the baltic/lithuanian use dievaite. Like in Perkun dievaite(their thunder god) or dievaite sventa(holy goddess). And as I understand both the baltic and germanic tribes are descendants of the corded ware.
You could probably find even more examples among the Indo-Iranian/Indo-European.
And in the end it could just be a cultural disagreement early on among IE about the glass is half empty/full 😂
One alternative explanation is that the two categories of supernatural beings underwent a "holiness swap". It's not uncommon for a culture to essentially forget whether something exceedingly sacred or taboo is one or the other and consequently switch its association. For example, cows are initially seen as unclean and thus unusable for sacrifice, but over time their unsacrificeable status become an arbitrary rule. Then, when someone is trying to explain the rule, they reason that cows cannot be sacrificed because they are to precious and sacred to kill.
I could imagine a similar thing happening in proto-iranian/sanskrit culture. Asuras are initially sacred to the point that they cannlt be talked about outside of the temole/sacrifices. Devas, on the other hand, are appeased with sacrifices. Eventually people reason that this is because Devas are good/normal gods and Asuras are evil.
That could be a more organic process than a schism. Then again, the two theories can both be true too.
No it was zorastrian effect. In proto indo iranic stage both devas and asuras were good being. Zorastrian does not goes against devas of veda but devas of proto iranian.
@@pripegalapobedonosni3324 exactly bro once they all following vedic religion bt time by time things gona change
X2 😎👍
By the way, just recently a reconstrution of Sintashta chariot was made by a team of researchers from Russia. Also, a couple years ago another team from Greece reconstructed a Sintashta bow. Both are quite complex. Especially interesting that Sintashta chariots are mostly wooden, and wood is a scarce resource in steppe. Also for some elements they used moose antlers - also not the most typical resource in steppe.
Thank you yes I read these papers and made contact with a great researcher named Ivan Semyan. He offered to answer my questions and talk about his work which includes not only chariot reconstruction but also a Sintashta bow reconstruction.
There is some evidence to suggest - and we may well find more evidence in future - that the swift two wheeled chariot developed in the Abashevo culture of the forest-steppe zone. Perhaps in conjunction with the Poltavka culture.
@@DanDavisHistory well, Sintashta people probably came to southern Ural with some sort of a chariot, since in their new lands they, as you said in the video, were in a state of constant warfare. But the fact that they still used expensive materials for chariots for at least a century truly amazes me. Maybe it can even be interpreted as a presence of stable economic relationships with other regions and cultures.
Wood is not scarce resource in the Urals. You can come and see...
Wait, American Moose or European Moose? 🤔
@@DanDavisHistory Aren't some academics lovely? You can ask them anything, they'll chat for as long as you need, and they're more than happy to give you access to their paywalled research! Never been turned down yet! 😎👍🏻
You've filled in a gap of my mental map of prehistory. Thanks for posting this it must have taken a lot to make it.
The intro was amazing. So sad your books are not available in Poland. The video is great, as allways. Greetings and salutations.
Thank you very much.
Yeah the intro - wow.
What happened to it? Seems that beautiful intro part has been removed.
@@AJKecsk ikr, glad it's still on odysee
I loved this one as well. You never rabble on mindlessly. You always stay on the core of the subject
Absolutely brilliant work. As an armchair historian, i love the journey into a previously unknown time and culture/s. Especially when they are revealed to be part of the foundation upon which so much was built. Outstanding.
Thank you.
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Aryans never came from outside India it's fake story, the people who live in India are called Aryans. There's no Aryan invasion theory.
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Dan, I just want to thank you for your very enlightening and educational videos. You have opened up an area of history that I previously thought was of little importance in the Steppe region, but I have now come to realize just how enormous an impact these waves of destructive creation have had on the world.
indeed, i'm a arab but for my dismay i could not found any Arab dna on me but Caucasus sintasha androvo , wtf, how that can be possible , yes they created a destructive , creation that average genetic steppe dna in today humans are only 15% gees the hunther gaters , so long ago still left more DNA imprint how can that be possible ? something is not matching up in here better invent another one more convincing
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Aryans never came from outside India it's fake story, the people who live in India are called Aryans. There's no Aryan invasion theory.
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@@KManjunath-eg4gqdoesn't matter how many times you reply on various comments its not going to make your comment any more true. Get a grip. Some of you Indians have the same DNA as Europeans deal with it.
I just ordered your three "Gods of Bronze" novels and can't wait to read them! Love your channel!
Thank you, I hope you enjoy the stories.
We're with you all the way Dan. Keep making history
Thank you.
Keep spreading propaganda
I am thrilled to have found your brilliant channel a few weeks ago. Your examination of history is fascinating. I have shared it with my son, and he is as impressed as I have been. Thank you for your hard work!
Thanks very much Brett, I'm glad you found us. Cheers.
Long live Dan, it's the first time I have ever seen someone acknowledge this part of history. you really made my day.
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Aryans never came from outside India it's fake story, the people who live in India are called Aryans. There's no Aryan invasion theory.
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@@KManjunath-eg4gqThis is verifiably false, the only ones who deny it are indians with an identity crisis, but they can't disprove the Aryan invasion overwhelmingly vast evidence. You were given your culture by the Aryans. There are no more aryans in india.
As a Pashtun/Afghan I'm a descendant of the Scythians 🐎🏹 love to all Aryan brothers and sisters around the world 🗺 ❤
hail the good old ppl
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Aryans never came from outside India it's fake story, the people who live in India are called Aryans. There's no Aryan invasion theory.
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@@KManjunath-eg4gq according bollywood graduate historians! Right! 😂
@@FarooqKhanx-mk5jv All living from Afganistan to Saudi Arabia all where worshipping idols before Islam was born. Means all were following Vedic culture. You can still find Indian god idols from turkey to Afghanistan.
@@FarooqKhanx-mk5jv he is South Indian they are Dravidians
I like the chariot wheels at 2 :42, Aluminum forks and rubber tires were all the rage back then. LOL I do love the channel
This is the best channel about ancient history of humankind. It is fascinating to see how humans migrated in bronze age. Well done!
You sir need to write a new series like Godborn. This is amazing stuff and there just isn’t enough fiction out there on Indo European origins. Yours really are the best fiction writing on PIE origins I’ve come across. About time you released a new one for fans like me!
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Aryans never came from outside India it's fake story, the people who live in India are called Aryans. There's no Aryan invasion theory.
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This was really good! You have a unique skill at humanizing ancient life for us.
Thank you Jeffrey
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As chariot warfare fan…this is such an interesting documentary. Amazing how much was going on outside of Summer, Akkad and Egypt.I would guess Hammurabi chariots to be like the reconstructed shown. Will watch again.
no need to watch bro , the indo european come from anatolia not from russia it is a bulshit
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@@KManjunath-eg4gqwhen u look at Indians you would jnow they are not aryan. They don’t have the physiological and racial make up. There social norms are uncivilised even compared to 4000 years ago.
Aryan invasion or migration theory was proved by genetics test now... Aryan are outsiders and Dravidians are original Indians... These aryan destroyed Indus Valley Dravidian people and killed male and take ladies thus with maternal genetics test this theory was proved...
Damn that intro gave me chills. Such beautiful storytelling
I've seen many professionelly made tv for a lot of money and by many people about these times your are focusing on and none came even close. Thanks, I really appreciate your work, always a highlight when a new one appears in my notifications
*YESSS, another video on the Proto Indo Iranians, the Sintashta. I subscribed, awesome work.*
Actually the Indo-Iranians should be called the Arya, as Indic Arya, Avestan Airya and Old Persian Ariya are all cognates, so the endonym Arya can be reconstructed to proto-Indo-Iranian with confidence. Another interesting fact, is how it seems the ancestors of the Avestan Aryans and Indo Aryans came into conflict with each other probably over sectarian issues. The gods of the Indo-Aryans are called Deva, whereas the demons of the Avestan Aryans are called Daiva. Likewise, the god in Avestan is the Ahura, whereas the demons of the Indo-Aryans are called Asura (in Iranian the s changed to h, e.g. sindu/hindu). Indo-Aryans gods are also found in the Mitanni inscription in Syria.
I meet many Iranians in the streets of kuwait, exactly look like the Brahmin priests of South Indian/keralite temples.
I was just going to write this comment but you've already said it ❤
Very well put
These euros take our culture for their egos, stop caring what these egomanicas think
@@lijopunnapra1683nah they look nothing similar to each other Indian pandits are also black
Excellent job. Lots of good data, and little speculation so common to historical works.
Fantastic work as always! Thank you so much for your efforts
Chariot is available in India at Sinauli dated back to 1800-2000 BC.
Sinauli is dated to 1865 - 1550 BC. The antenna swords suggests it was 1500 - 1000 BC. The vehicles at Sinauli were heavy, with solid wheels and copper sheets. They heavy and so could not have been pulled quickly by the small horses that were around back then and so were not war chariots.
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Aryans never came from outside India it's fake story, the people who live in India are called Aryans. There's no Aryan invasion theory.
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jai sriram@@KManjunath-eg4gq
@@DanDavisHistoryThey were 2 wheel chariots,and at that time Greece was making 4 wheel chariots which proves that we were technologically advanced and about the point made about them being heavy because of solid wheels, firstly, the wheels were not solid, they were decomposed making it hard to seperate organic matter and wood. Also there were swords and other things in it which proves that it was a war chariot.
On other note, we had masterd the manufacturing of war chariots by then because of copper, gold and bronze was embossed in chariot and no person in their correct mind would do that if they haven't perfected the art, specially with these kind of materials. Also the way the sword was made, the process.
Please just get over about Europeans being aryans. They are not that great. They can't even make food and you want to make them great 😂.
@@KManjunath-eg4gqInvasion theory is wrong but it's the Aryans migrated and that has valid evidence .
This opening was amazing! Your content is top notch
These videos are such a welcome antidote to all the "peaceful diffusion" narratives that seem to be put about when it comes to the spread of ancient cultures.
I would add that we have few concrete ideas on the spread. As Dan also said, IMO trade was more popular than warfare. And the ones conducting warfare were more on a tribal level rather than on a civilizational level. Plus heavy warfare conducting cultures seem to have died of faster.
As with everything in life i believe answers must be more complex than an all conquering horde.
I've never heard about that narrative.
All evidence points to both warfare and trading.
And, when there is mass migration, there is usually mixing of the invading culture with the invaded one.
Maybe you're watching the wrong documentaries.
@@JustGrowingUp84 there is a big discussion going on especially in conservative Hindu communities that Aryan invasion was never a thing.. or that the Aryan people originated from the Indus valley civilization. Also you can see this discussion when looking at Anatolian farmer expansion. However, maybe it has some validity in that case
If you look at the scope of history, migration through trade and population growth drives most expansion. Warfare covers such a very small portion of any culture's history. Even if there is a massive war once a century per civilization, that still means you have 3-4 generations living in peace and doing their thing between each event.
War disrupts trade and population and thus halts expansion. Conquest and invasion is only a lead into a longer period of adjustment, trade, and migration.
You cant look at history through wars alone, it you do, you compress it and lose sight of it completely.
@@therationalcollection2999 yup. The nationalists over there also commonly believe that Sanskrit _was_ the original P-I-E language and not a daughter language. It's eye-rolling, but it's not unprecedented. They aren't the first group to use pseudoscientifically supported wishful thinking to shore up their ethnocentric worldview.
Wow that Steppes area is utterly beautiful! With the mountains and the curving river.
Already knowing most of this factology, I still really love these videos for they visualize maps, express life and feels of ancient people who even couldn't write. It really helps to get the FEEL of it - how it lived in space, time and human lifetimes. It's great to feel them as real people, who travelled, fought, communicated with other peoples etc, and not as bones and their shards.
Thank you that's exactly what I want to do.
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A video dedicated to the Andronovo cultures would be a great watch, absolutely loving these videos
Thank you very much. Yes I agree and Andronovo is on the list. I may do the BMAC first. And I'd like to do the Indus Valley Civilisation too.
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keep living in your dreams!!!
Great video as always.
You should do one on the bell beakers next.
Good job…. I absolutely love these type of channels .. stuff you’ll never see on tv…but absolutely should …
Thanks for another brilliant video. They really help to clarify the monumentally complex movements and developments of prehistory.
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Aryans never came from outside India it's fake story, the people who live in India are called Aryans. There's no Aryan invasion theory.
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@@KManjunath-eg4gq That's interesting is there an alternative story that you can put forward for discussion?
@@benndanny12 pls read satyarth prakash book written by swamy Dyananda Saraswati
I see a Dan Davis video and I click and watch without question
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It is something how many military innovations came from the steppes. Thank you for this great video. A good follow-up could be about the Mitanni, who took chariotry to the aristocracy, with their Maryannu caste being akin to Bronze Age knights.
@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 I wasn't talking about ancestry. I was talking about the evolution of chariotry and the chariot's role in ancient aristocracies. And castes came from peoples all over the world. The Mitanni had a chariot nobility and a hierarchical system with levied peasants at the bottom and the king with the ruling elite at the top. And everyone in each level of the heirarchy had rule of decorum to the others. Hence, a caste system.
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@@KManjunath-eg4gqyou could say that stringing it as "on the other hand" hypothesis BUT modern DNA testing of human remains in Archaeology finds of that period say....
"You were NOT the father's culture and people"
your ability to deliver high-quality content consistently is amazing!
I was just thinking and wondering when your next upload would be and lo and behold, Crom heard my brain's mutterings.
How do I even adequately thank you for this, Dan? The gears in my mind and imagination are set in motion each and every time I come upon your work and I’m so very grateful for it.
Thank you very much.
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Im waiting for this episodes like for nothing else in YT those days. Amazing voice amazing stories freaking amazing
Thank you very much.
Been waiting for this one. Amazing work! Cheers
Cheers brother.
Excited to watch later today!! Thanks so much, I know it will be awesome 🌟🌟🌟!!!
Thanks Olina, I hope you enjoy the video.
Dude, I'm fucking addicted to your videos. Binged thrm all in a week!
Remarkably well made video, I'd like to see you make a video about the Scythians as well. Greetings from Iran.
Thank you for these high quality videos. I love love love them. 🎉
I literally JUST finished your latest then got bummed because it was over and I'd have to wait for another. And....voila
Nice.
What a spectacular combination of thorough research, vivid narrative, charming accent and voice. Thanks, Dan!
its the narrative of bulshit , ya right
This aryan Dravidian theory is wrong... All Indians are descentants of Harappan Civilization and they still have a DNA identiy of 30% matching a harappan Skelton they found last year in haryana, India... The Indus valley or Harappan civilization is the oldest dated back to 8000 years..in fact the aryans didn't came from Europe, they left from Indus vallry to Europe around 4000-5000 years ago. The new proofs from Haryana Archeological site has many evidence that the world's first civilization evolved in India and later spread to elsewhere
@@enlightnedsoul4124 given that we share 98% of our genetic code with chimpanzees, how, exactly, would 30% Harappan DNA be impressive?
You missed mentioning the discovery of Sinauli chariot and horses, 2000BC, which make it a contemprory of Sintashta culture and not an off-shoot.
Also, the Vedas being as recent as 1500BC has long been disproven through multiple evidences, including internal archeo-astronomy evidences. These are much older, some upto 3000BC years.
No the Sinauli two-solid-wheeled ritual bullock cart is not a chariot. Also the radiocarbon dates from the site show it is c.1865 - 1550 BC. And the fact that the site produces antenna swords suggests that the dating is 1500 - 1000 BC. The crossover suggests Sinauli is c. 1500 BC.
Whatever the exact date, the solid wheeled cart (it is not a chariot nor are there horses) remains suggest it was pulled by cattle not horses.
@@DanDavisHistory I don't think those were bullock carts. Those clearly are chariots and the design (single pole yoke) suggests horses.
The later discoveries and carbon dating push the date beyond 2000BC. Please check on that.
There are clear sculptures from 2nd Century showing chariots with solid wheels. So, it is not correct to say that those cannot be chariots.
The style and shape of the yoke is one of the lines of evidence that shows it was for cattle not horses. Of course two bulls could pull carts, that was standard. And the solid wheels would have been too heavy for those early horses to pull quickly even a small cart like that at Sinauli. Chariots have spoked wheels, carts have solid wheels.
Again, look at the artefacts found there. Antenna hilted short swords do not date from 2000 BC.
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Actually, sculptures exists to show horse pulled solid wheel chariot. So, the conjecture that solid wheels are too heavy are just a conjecture.
Further, the yoke is clearly a single animal accommodating.
In any case, if Rig Veda, dated well before 3000BC mentions horses, chariots, clearly show those pre-existed the Shintashta.
Sculptures after 2000 years of horse breeding after the original Sintashta horse breed. Remember we now have DNA studies from ancient horses showing that it was the Sintashta breed that spread across the world after 2000 BC.
Also no one other than Hindu nationalists thinks the Rig Veda dates to 3000 BC, that's just something they made up so they can cling to the Out of India hypothesis despite the mountain of evidence to the contrary.
This was really interesting and informative. Thanks Dan.
Thanks for this one too. When you alluded so heavily to the Sintashta last week, I wondered if you were going to do a f/u.
Hey big history buff. I've been prowling TH-cam channels for decades. Your channel is some of the greatest work, and research I've ever seen please keep it up. 💯
When you mention Rig Veda refereeing something that appear to be connected to this culture of Shintashta, you are not considering the whole Rig Veda (and three other Vedas). Rig Veda also has rhymes referring to rising Sun from Sea in the East. Stepps is landlocked. There are also tales in Sanskrit about a sage named Agasthsya, who went east and engulfed water of the whole oceans
IMHO, the whole idea of people moved from stepps in Central Asia to Indian subcontinent could be misleading.
Recently, archeologists find 5000-7000 years old buried human remains and artifacts that include chariot, weapons, other items and edible remains. Chariots found display complex artwork.
Once examination and thorough analysis these findings completes, it may require us to rethink that actual migration may have occurred out of India into Iran, Central Asia and finally to Europe.
Also, while all languages northward of India has Indo-Aryan words at varied at random from region to region, Sanskrit as fully developed language has survived till today in India instead of in Stepps or Europe.
Indus valley civilization People's 👥 are south Indian People's only ~ Recent Excavation in Tamilnadu Keelzadi Excavation proofs are connecting Indus valley civilization ~ Like Jallikattu Symbols - Red black Pots are in both Indus valley and Tamilnadu ~ Even Tamizili (Oldest Tamil language)Symbols are Founded
Hello brother! India is a great nation that has and continues to give in full.
And it does not take anything away from you that the origen of that particular influence comes from outside.
Just found your videos quality content thanks for shining light on this interesting culture.
Thank you, welcome to the channel Matt.
Quite the lead-in! A BIG step up from leading a squad of mounted infantry!
Excellent video. I enjoyed it from the beginning to the end
Thanks Brian!
Your heart American your face Aryan your mouth leftist your 😅😅😅😅
Will there be a book based on this, then? I’ve just read the first two installments of your Gods of Bronze series. Inhaled them, one might say. You did an excellent job. I can’t wait to see what sort of tale you will spin from this material.
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Thanks for drawing attention to this old video, I don't think I would have noticed it otherwise
This is great informative video, glad i found your channel :)
Thank you, I'm glad too.
This is pure gold, keep up the good work. You deserve much more fame :D
Just wonderful video of high historical quality. It is very difficult to find a really good material for Corded Ware culture and its descendants, especially about Sintashta culture (the "mother" of Indo-Aryans)... I've never seen such intersting videos made with a soul and deep knowledge. Thanx a lot!!!
More like "father of indo aryans". Also, modern Indians and Iranians on average only have around 10-15% Sintasha ancestry.
I just finished God born.
I feel compelled to tell you that it is very powerfully written and it is exactly the sort of thing we need in this day and age.
Thank you very much, so pleased to hear it.
As an American it always blows me away when I hear things like “shintashta only existed for a mere 3 or 4 hundred years “ when my country is still younger than that.
We are still babies in the grand scale of history.
You always teach me something new, Dan! Maybe the technologies used in warfare have changed a lot, but the reason behind it has not. It's always about protecting resources, and where possible, expanding your territory and influence. Well done!
Aryans never came out of india the people who livein india are called Aryans.
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How do you make such high quality, well researched videos so quickly?
Thanks. I work all day and all night every day. I'll need to slow down eventually.
@@DanDavisHistory yes, please don’t burn yourself out, I enjoy your content too much
I planned to look for a follow-up video about the horses, and it was tacked on to the end!
Another brilliant video Dan.
Thank you Steve
Wow, amazing story to start the video City Building Nomadic Cultures are the transitory point between Nomadic and early City building Civilizations. Their contribution to Human History is under related or covered a lot. Just because they left behind not might cities and records that does not take anything away from them.
While reading Gods of Bronze, I’m also listening to The Horse, the Wheel and Language on my work commute. Absolutely fascinating, almost obsessive topic. Dan, have you run across any info on the wooden Sintashta chariot museum reconstruction you show here? The kurgan burial chariot remains seem more like a wooden frame, over which a hide or leather suspended platform, like later (Egyptian, Celtic, etc.) chariots had. Seems like that would explain the fact that only the frame seems to have survived in a recognizable form. On the other hand, perhaps they used a species of wood for the frames/axles that was more rot-resistant and the thinner boards of the floor and sides were of wood that didn’t last as long in the ground. I haven’t found much on the specifics of how the chariot was constructed or what informed the decisions of whoever built the reconstruction.
Yes there are questions around the designs due to issues of preservation. Oftentimes only the wheels are left or even only the marks in the ground indicating where the wheels were and so giving the width of the chariot and no further information.
Some people have experimented with reconstructions based on the evidence. One specialist is named Ivan Semyan and he has an instagram account with a few snapped photos of reconstructions. Unfortunately a lot of the published info is exclusively in Russian so yes it is hard to know what the current thinking is.
@@DanDavisHistory Thanks for the Sayman reference. I'll check that out. I think I'll also look up an email address for David Anthony and see if he'd find the time for a response with his thoughts on the topic. His book so far references the width of chariots, wheel size, number of spokes, etc., but no mention of how the platform or box was made. He seems to have spent a lot of time studying Russian sources, so he probably has at least a hypothesis.
My own current hypothesis is that the platforms were not planks. Lumber milling was done in the bronze age, but since building with hyde-lashed poles probably predated lumber carpentry, the earliest chariots were probably built this way. Hide suspension platforms would have offered not only better shock absorbing properties, but would also have been cheaper to make and easier to maintain than milled lumber planks.
I'm 'nerding out' on this for two reasons; I'm a life-long woodworker and furniture maker and would love to build an accurate early Indo European chariot. Second, I'm also a police composite artist and an illustrator. For my own enjoyment, I'm working on an artistic representation of a steppe chariot team in combat, and I want to get the chariot right. I've painted the chariot to look like the Arkaim museum reconstruction, but the all-lumber box just doesn't seem to make sense.
Amazing video. I had no idea that all domesticated horses were from sintashta. That's one of the coolest facts I've ever heard.
@@zzzzz653 sounds like you just don't like the steppe theory. Probably because of some racial reason I imagine. Your name sounds indian so I imagine that's where your angst about it originates. Most indian's hate nomadic steppe herder theory.
The proof that all horses come from sintashta might not be a proven fact, but other things are. For example there were no horses in india until steppe herders brought them. Genetically you probably have ancestors that were steppe herders, especially if you're from northwest india. I know the disdain for the theory is born of indian nationalism, which is something I fully support, but I don't understand why steppe theory is bad for indian nationalism.
@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 you realize horses aren't native to the Indus valley right? They're native to the steppes. I want you to imagine how horses could have ended up moving from the steppes to the Indus valley.
I'm well aware that Indians are in denial about the invasion, but there's so much evidence for it that I'm not willing to entertain your denial. I mean even going off just the genetic evidence in the modern population of northern India there's more than enough evidence to prove it.
Great video, thanks! I just want to add one idea that came to my mind when watching your video. It is how important for the development of these early cultures was the combination of different landscapes in which they lived. They had access to both the steppes (mobility, prosperity through livestock) and the forests (wood, occasional refuge from attacks). Plus, there are major rivers in the Pontic-Caspian Steppe, which is also helpful for obvious reasons. And the diversity of landscapes may also foster greater mental flexibility, though it's only my guess.
It's always interesting to me how advanced these cultures seem judging by their level of advancement in metalworking, building and erecting walls, towers and settlements but also at the same time didn't have saddles for the horses without which they couldn't live. It's a strange mix of advanced yet primitive that makes it so interesting to me.
Well that was somewhat explained they had chariots and could throw spears farther than on horseback. Mongols shot arrows off horseback that's why they used saddles. Chariots are arguably more complex than a saddle. Chariots and carts are arguably more comfortable but yeah higher maintenance
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Great video. You may remember me.
I love your channel. Great videos.
Another great video. I learn new information that might end up in a RPG campaign later.
very nice and informative video! I love learning more about the indo-european cultures!
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serious research. Very impressive. Big fan.
Always learning! Thank you 🙏!
I'm an archaeologist and I am forwarding this video to a graduate student who is doing her thesis on the origin of horse warfare in the Near East. It is an excellent introduction to Central Asian origins of horse warfare.
Thanks very much. I also have a video about the origins of horse warfare.
Thank you. The lack of written records highlight the considerable unknown. It is appreciated that you note what is known and reasonable implications. Would love to see their artwork, but they didn't have much time for that; their art is that speartip/axe/horse husbandry. Hadn't heard of that mass grave. Samhain, thank you and much appreciated.
This aryan Dravidian theory is wrong... All Indians are descentants of Harappan Civilization and they still have a DNA identiy of 30% matching a harappan Skelton they found last year in haryana, India... The Indus valley or Harappan civilization is the oldest dated back to 8000 years..in fact the aryans didn't came from Europe, they left from Indus vallry to Europe around 4000-5000 years ago. The new proofs from Haryana Archeological site has many evidence that the world's first civilization evolved in India and later spread to elsewhere
BMAC (Bactria Margiana Complex) is an extremely important point before Indo-Iranians become the Iranians and Indians. BMAC was a prior advanced civilization that Andronovo would have fused with, at some point. That combination is what gives rise to Indo-Iranians.
Yes gave rise to the Iranic people whereas the Indo-Aryans fused with IVC
@@DigoronKavkaz Yes, and IVC is maybe a misnomer because IVC also had a city called Shortugai, near the modern city of Kunduz in Afghanistan. It is in Tajikistan and northern Afghanistan, where this fusion of Indo-Aryan and IVC probably began.
Nice documentary on a fascinating people I knew nothing about!
Those settlements are incredibly cool. I imagine them spreading, as each settlement gets overcrowded a group of them continues on to found a new one.
I wish I learned about these cultures in my college history class over 40 years ago. Nice video.
Thank you.
@@DanDavisHistory You're welcome.
This aryan Dravidian theory is wrong... All Indians are descentants of Harappan Civilization and they still have a DNA identiy of 30% matching a harappan Skelton they found last year in haryana, India... The Indus valley or Harappan civilization is the oldest dated back to 8000 years..
@@enlightnedsoul4124 I know it now. When I was in college, my history book, History Past & Present, said that the Ayrans invaded India and toppled the Harrapan, then known as the Indus Valley Civilization.
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Excellent video as always, Mr. Davis!
Cheers!
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@@KManjunath-eg4gq Of course… there’s no Y-chromosomal, autosomal, physical-anthropological, historical, linguistic, archaeological, comparative mythological, cultural, or zoological evidence to indicate that…
When are you people going to wake up to reality?
Central Asia played a huge role in our past. Cannabis was first consumed in the foothills of the Tien Shan. If you take a summer stroll in Almaty you'll no doubt notice massive buds welcoming you to the many parks and green spaces in and around the city. Not many rastas yet!😅
Special Thanks for showing plates of the structures of the Sintashta buildings and the plate showing their names(in Cyrilic script...useful anyway)☆Thank You for doing your best & sharing. If there is peace research can continue.
Hey man, your videos are exceptional. Can’t believe I’m just now finding your channel. Love from Virginia, USA!
Thank you
Goddamn it how did you make another video? I haven't finished a video in two months. No just kidding, I'm excited to see another video from you. This is the first comprehensive description of Sintashta I've seen. Kudos to you for making this.
Thanks bro.
Get busy bro, I need my dopamine receptors satisfied with genetic analysis 😉
@@YoungChunds I've been working on a video for three weeks on the Bohemia ancient DNA study. I'm in the last stages. By a hope and a prayer I'll have it done this week.
@@ario4795 Yeah that's not what google says. Plus even if that were how you pronounce it, I would refuse to pronounce it that way. I refuse to look like a fool pronouncing things that go against basic English phonology rules.
@@ario4795 Yes I just figured that out not too long ago. B-hole. That was clever. Sorry man I actually take the pronunciation errors seriously. Not because I want to always get it right but because it is frustrating. So that's why I was salty.
Brilliantly done. Again. Thank you.
Cheers mate.
Wow! I lived here all my life and did't know about this. Very interesting.
Dan I love when you drop a lesson , I love your channel, thanks for letting us be part of how you wrote your books, but me personally I love your TH-cam channel, history how it should be, fantastic and I just want to tell you thanks because some people don't buy books but they have you on TH-cam so they are told the historical truth , Dan I love your work brilliant. Great stuff
Thanks Sean, appreciate it mate.
@@DanDavisHistory I love your work and your books fantastic. I love the history.
Hands down the best most informative channel on YT nowadays!
This is my first time seeing it and yes it’s very good so far. Another great channel on TH-cam is Robert Sepher -he’s an anthropologist who breaks down some great stuff. He uses DNA haplo groups and does a great job of explaining the spread of humans- not the “ everyone came out of Africa “ which has lots of proof against but is still pushed. He also talks about the “ Aryan culture “ which is where the word Iran comes from. Not many people want to hear the truth about the origin of peoples. Much love to all
@@SirLeDoux Dude, I love Sepehr! He's the reason I became an anthropologist and discovered channels like Survive The Jive and Dan Davis! You definitely are on the right path to knowledge, my friend. Never let the world guilt you into denying your ancestry and heritage. We are living in horrendous times when our sons and daughters are told to hate themselves for their European culture. But the good news is our hope is growing and more and more people are waking up to this nasty propaganda. Stay strong and hold onto your culture! Never lose your smile.
As always, great job.
Just found your channel. Brilliant stuff
I love that an Iranic culture is getting attention, often times the old European Iranic cultures are overlooked in the west :(
Hinduism is one of the iranian religion
@@Akash11898 Zorastrianism is a sub-branch of Hinduism from India.
@@infinite5795 no, it developed seperately but retained the same roots as hinduism. Zoroastrianism and hinduism stem from the same core traditions and beliefs
Indo aryans were their ancestrers
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Its clear from comments section that many of us Indians want only the "Out of India theory" (OIT) and see AMT as a European conspiracy. Anyone who disagrees even with counter evidence is slandered in the most un-Hindu manner. Interestingly, when the same foreign historians unearthed and praised Indus Valley Civilization, deciphered Brahmi script, made Sanskrit/Buddhism/Yoga/Indian Temple architecture popular, we loved it!! No questions asked!!
It’s an interesting display of narcissistic "we are better than you / we are victims" bipolar attitude. They want to see what they believe rather than believe what they see.
Science says mixed race happens when mammals of purer race (नस्ल या जाति) mingle. Same thing can be seen by pet lovers (eg. Interbreeding between different types (race if you will) of dogs). But for these OIT supporters, reverse is true. Aryans in Steppes region were created from Mixed race Indians (Aryans + natives) who travelled to Steppes. Go figure!!
Lol.
None denied that there was invasions and mixing of other people😂😂. Anyone who has studied genetics will not be stupid and say there is a pure connotation of "race".The genetic record shows that there is a continuity in Indian genes way upto 2000 years when Greeks came. This inaccuracy is what is being contested. India itselfs is a compilation of various races before it integrated and mixed heavily.
Plus the script isn't deciphered. Our land is a land which has a deep deep sense of history. So, it's ludicrous to say that foreigners found our civilization and if they weren't there we wouldn't have found it.
@@PradhanmantriBruhh There is plenty of evidence. And there is something known as Occam's razor too. However if one is obsessed with only proving "we are oldest and most superior civilization", instead of understanding history as it happened with an open mind, there is no point. No wonder such narrow minded indian historians have been isolated around the world (not just western countries) and are not able to publish any such lies in international journals. Be happy and stay blessed.
@@VijayKumarIITSrExecutive Don't put your head in things that you don't understand. You cannot apply such stupid principles in fields especially in genetics because it's a complicated mixture. Therefore to formulate a model that fits the accurate historical narrative is important and often a difficult task considering the immense vastness in Indian genetics.
My advice is just stick to what you know. Leave the rest to others.
No wonder this OIT theory has not been published in any peer reviewed international journal and is just a political ideology.
PS: Watch this video from World of Antiquity's Dr. David Miano, historian, debunking Abhijit Chavda's OIT claims: When did SANSKRIT appear in India? | The GENETIC Evidence ((th-cam.com/video/NQX5LlJ7YXg/w-d-xo.html)
The landscape at 0:7:18 is very impressive !