These towers used to be used in the early days of the game, but now there are so many towers there isn't a point. I remember the first Christmas event and the best tower was juggernaut. Laser Gunner and Artillery were very good options.
Back on launch a year ago before warship. Juggernaut and Rail gunner were peak. Any tower was usable. And Laser gunner was considered the pinnacle of a starting tower. John has addressed the issue. And has stated it will be fixed, hopefully around the teased Nightmare update. as someone who owns ever single tower event or not event. It just feels odd having such a selection yet only around 3 - 4 of them that truly stand out in power over the others.
Sniper was peak but stopped being used when op stuff came out, and mine layer got overshadowed by the golden version. Laser gunner got replace by golden ranger, and the same goes for juggernaut.
I think the mine layer is the only tower that was power creeped, as every other tower fills it’s own niche other than mine layer, as it’s just objectively worse than it’s golden version.
they should've made golden mine layer be much more focused on bosses instead of just being a better version of mine layer by just making it have a primary target damage, so the enemy that stepped on the mine would be dealt the same 1500 damage but the splash would do like barely anything like 200 damage or smth
It was a good tower for being the only tower to not have to struggle with anyone with lazer resistance (because the zombies didn't have it back then) and to reveal stealth zombies unit ghost showed up
mine layer was just powercreeped out of existence. not even needed for boss damage anymore due to other towers getting buffed and lots more dps options, and so many other towers can ignore explosive resistance which removed most of its use in endless while gold mine layer does pretty much everything better and can attack far range.
Power creep this, power creep that... Can't we just let this stupid term die? It gets shot around as a silver bullet to every tower argument and it's annoying as all hell.
I also find it funny how I saw no one give a dang about minelayer and golden minelayer until NoL made a video saying G. mine is power creep Take that with a grain of salt, as it might just be a me thing, but does everyone just follow what the youtuber says? Does everyone only believe what youtubers think?
@@dracoledraconoligist pretty sure Nol fans would believe him but eh mine layer is still useful if well u don’t have g minelayer and can still do good on endless.
As an old player...back in the day for early game the ONLY good option we had was laser gunner, and that was only changed when granger and slammer stuff came out, and believe me I got so tired of using laser gunner very fast...atleast there are even more cost efficient mid-late game towers now like mobster that add variety
Patrol Boat can literally get you far on endless with hidden supports like Ghost and Sniper and you're good to go at any game mode. It's just literally a mini Warship.
@@Zellnoobtbh it's the best early game tower for expert and can be used at mid to late game when spammed and with HD support, people seem to have forgotten the patrol+sniper solo expert mode.
I beat all impossible maps on expert trio with minelayer being an mvp, baseplate you could say it was slammer or cryo blaster but on deserted it was mine layer
One Problem with Laser Gunner is that he attacks with laser as his name says, and one major problem is that when endless mode came out it introduced Laser resistance and since the Laser Gunner attacks with only Laser and he doesn't get to ignore Laser resistance at all, it makes him really unreliable against Laser resistance enemies. Even Tower Battles and Halloween Event had Laser resistance with Tower Battles having only Hidden Enemies and Boss 3 with Laser resistance, but Halloween didn't have enemies with heavy Laser resistance. But i remember in the early times with only the 4 main modes Laser Gunner was super reliable.
Yeah, TXN has been used in a lot of strats just because if the extra 10% dmg boost, but flame trooper is much better applying the dmg increase against normal enemies. The only difference is that Toxicnator applies the dmg boost to bosses while flame trooper doesnt
@@UserIsGlassed Adding the targetting limiter just broke this tower's kneecaps. Like, flametrooper doesn't have a targeting limit and can apply damage vulnerabilities to any tower. Why not just remove the targeting limiter at this point?
Well I am not surprised, these towers are mainly used by newer players (lvl 0- 60) and not by higher level players. We call it PROGGRESION, I know scary concept. Also with Artilery, you can make a knock-off warship with those but on land. Oh yeah and toxicator is still used alot tbh. John when buffing Patrol so people use it: I GAVE IT EVERYTHING EXEPT HIDDEN DETECTION WHAT MORE COULD THEY WANT? Me: Just give it hidden detection so the name actually makes sense. Patrol boat is cracked, first REAL DPS tower I bought and it can carry you, only if you play on water maps and bring some anti stealth with you.
Mine layer in front is actually good, place a few 2-5 mine layer in front of the map on expert from wave31 to 40 these bois gonna deal like 100k+ damage sometime 200k+ which is crazy
I dont think laser gunner and patrol boat are that outclassed but i do believe they could use a buff, as in useful for early to mid game players but later dont get used as much by late game players unless they wanna try something, or it's their favorite tower.
This could have been way longer but i decided that the comment was too long and shortened it, also patrol boat definitely one of my favorite towers in the game.
1:30 today, I had a dream where I was using top path Laser Gunner (which the UI was showing as bottom path for some reason) for some sort of weird setup. I don't even use that tower much and I have not played TDX in a while as well, so that was either a vision of me watching this video or my brain running out of stuff to show.
Toxicator is a really OP tower. Possibly best splash tower to get before warship. And in John video where he did elite you can see why its so good. And keep in mind! That it got buffed. What i mean with buffed is that now you can get stealth on level 4 top path while it used to be 5.
Do you remember the armored+toxicnator expert solo strat where they used toxicnator as the main dps tower at late game, just like in tds alot of people don't use towers till a strategy that requires these towers comes out.
I would swap artillery out with patrol boat, artillery is still used by lot of people on really any maps, its somewhat good against bosses too and can seriously deal a lot of damage with it having no pierce cap unlike other towers and ignore explosive resistance. Top is still useful for hoards and don't forget that artillery, unlike a lot of late game and high damage towers, CAN be buffed and healed. This even made it useful during the recent chapter 3 nightmare mode, skyhawk being used as a wall. Overrall patrol boat is really mediocure since it can't be placed on many maps, no recent event maps have water on them and maps that do have water on them, people don't play them very much.
Man I remember me and my friends using laser gunner in the early game of expert, we used to use it so much while grinding on danger beach to get me warship
Juggernaut's biggest weakness imo is it's the low range for it's price (bottom path) it has *18 RANGE* OPERATOR BOTTOM PATH GETS OUTRANGED BY 1 *GOD DAMN OPERATOR HAS ALMOST THE SAME RANGE AS A LATEGAME TOWER*
It's not that they are not used, but people use the others for grinding, these towers are actually good + support, people just underestimate them, all towers are useful just good on their way. And most people does not know what powercreep and tower being op btw.
I got a tip to remove CapCut. Make sure to smaller your gameplay. Then cut out the part to make it fullscreen and remove the watermark :) that’s what I do
Sniper is an amazing tower for early-mid with Ok Support and damage for Late game Reason is that sniper has lots of range, It's able to take down stragglers and deal enough damage to one shot some early game enemies. Problem is that the dps on Late game is very meh, Late game expects you to have alot of dps with a good amount of hp, Sniper is neither of those, and like counteriser said, It lacks crowd control, But why are you playing a tower defense game without crowd control towers. I have not used mine layer yet, But i imagine it would be a good straggler killer/boss killer with the only problem is their slow attack and incompetent users. I don't have cryo ranger (sadge) but i imagine it would be a good single target freezer able to keep up with faster enemies Toxinator actually deals a decent amount of damage, I haven't used it extensively but i can tell this tower has great early-mid game potential (If people arent incompetent that is) Laser gunner is... Uhh.. lets say i don't like it.. Sure its a good dps tower for Early-mid-late game... You... Don't really need a crazy amount of dps for early (unless bosses) and it gets outclassed in late game, so it's just amazing in mid-game... Again i must suck at this but... Arty is fun to use, Recommend only placing one Skyhawk, but I once you get it, You sweep house against any enemy with hp lower than 2000 and its controlled (Bonus points for the hp and explosive resistance)
Me personally, i would say that grenadier and ONLY SOMEWHAT railgunner are also overlooked, as me personally, i NEVER used them, matter of fact, i didnt even buy grenadier yet, i low-key forgot he exists until the Xmas event started, because he's pretty useful in the event. But in a normal mode like expert for example, I'd rather just use: either flame trooper for AOE or slammer for the stun, grenadier is just really outclassed in my opinion. As for railgunner, i never really went "damn i wish i had railgunner equiped right now" i know that its a decent tower, however i literally never found a situation where i would need him outside of the Halloween event to deal with the flying enemies, but still, XWM did a better job at that 😅 Although railgunner is a good single target damage dealer, and a sub DPS option, I'd still rather use any other sub DPS option as its way more reliable, like the helicopter or XWM turret in endless.
Also dare I say ranger? For the most part ranger can deal with elite mode with supports and additional dps like juggernaut. He can’t kill the boss but kinda mops the floor with the normal enemy’s.
Shotgunner is really useful for the speedrun strats and patrol boats is a really powerful tower only limited by the maps and hiddens so it's usually supported by a hidden remover
@blockerton0 im saying that they don't need a buff. They're perfectly fine the way they are. Hell, patrol boat encourages having supports which adds alot to the strategy, and shotgunner can do a pretty hefty amount of dps despite costing around 450 gold
Everyone just stopped using top path toxic when it got nerfed Even though it's still really good ... I don't know why people overlook artillery or laser gunner. Both are still extremely good AND fun to use. Now someone out there wants to make the argument of "welll erm people overlook them becaushe there r better towersh" Imo, slammer, heli, and golden towers get boring as HELL to use after playing enough expert and using other towers besides the brain dead cheesy ones is a huge breath of fresh air
I would say patrol boat should be a part of this list as no one uses it beacuse its a water towers and it dosent have hidden detection the dps isint every good too and beacuse it has no hidden detection it cant be used as a early game tower or a mid or a late it also suffers from the fact that people dont know how to use it and it just gets thrown in the shadown and in reality it just a waste of a inventroy slot even tho it can help on maps like misleading pond but it still isnt good
You forgot the fact that these towers have straight up better versions of themselves Sniper < Laser Gunner Mine Layer < G Mine Layer Cryo Ranger < Cryo Heli and Cryo Blaster Laser Gunner < Gold Ranger Toxic is till good idk what you on about Artillery < Warship or Armored Factory
Bro me and a friend were duoing and he was soloing the frontline while I spammed minelayer but only maxed a few and yet when eradicator came we were about to lose the the a trillion mine layers sent his ass back the Cretaceous period
Sniper = Bro got one shot by ANYTHING That deal damage Riz- Mine layer = Still stay cause the MEME Cryo Ranger = She is to poor to be on a battlefield...Look at what happen to her in the event... Laser Gunner = From the goat Got replace to the trash to G ranger Where is him? I don't know alway G ranger went i ring Artillery = I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO"AIM" WHILE APEX PREDATOR IS GROOMING MY GOLDEN JUGGERNAUT Toxicnator = If the nerf didn't happen he will become the horde destroyer
tbh i still use laser gunner for non braindead expert runs. minelayer has always been a pretty bad tower, only used on release when many people didn't have any better towers. now it is too slow at everything, with its golden variant also being pretty much useless on expert (but it carries endless runs) it needs a complete rework tbh. sniper just needs a buff, i use it sometimes in elite/expert runs but it has awful ce on the early levels. bottom path is nice because it gives stealth reveal, but that's only useful in expert, but jammers also exist in expert so whenever you need to use it you can't. (the jammers are the worst thing in expert you either need to put a ghost in the back and remember to use the drone or get heli/warship) cryo ranger isn't overlooked 🛹atleast, it gets a fair bit of attention as the worst tower in the game. that being said, it's a good option if you want to get a 3-2 cryoranger to freeze some weaker bosses toxinator abilltiy is not just useful for bosses 🛹 it applies a entire 30% damage buff to standard enemies. this is really useful for those super buffed enemies in endless, and good against high health juggernauts in expert. the main problem is how useless the path without the ability is. you'd think they'd give it unlimited pierce, but it just ends up having slightly better cc with more drawn out effects, which is pretty bad for td games since it's all about optimizations once you've gotten everything nailed down. artillery just requires too much attention. it was a good pick for nightmare christmas and nightmare tb, but now it's really only good for elite. even then, skyhawk is too much of an investment when you're probably nearing plague doctor at that point.
Toxicnator should get a passive debuff for enemies like how flametrooper works. especially top path, like reducing their resistances, slowing them, or anything that debuffs enemies
Toxicnators top path nerf sucks ! from being able toe hit unlimted zombies to hardly any...and like yeah alot of these towers are just simpily outclassed lazer gunner was goated but Golden Ranger/Jugg are so much better
Which tower do you think is overlooked? also patrol boat would be part of this list but I have something else for it in the next video
Artillery
I think laser gunner is the most over looked. It’s just only good in expert
Shotgunner
Patrol Boat
Zed, after that 5k cost placement nerf.
These towers used to be used in the early days of the game, but now there are so many towers there isn't a point. I remember the first Christmas event and the best tower was juggernaut. Laser Gunner and Artillery were very good options.
In 2023 Christmas event railgunner was meta
@@Maksmaks-2305for nightmare mode i used jugg more than rail but for normal rail was better
Back on launch a year ago before warship. Juggernaut and Rail gunner were peak. Any tower was usable. And Laser gunner was considered the pinnacle of a starting tower. John has addressed the issue. And has stated it will be fixed, hopefully around the teased Nightmare update. as someone who owns ever single tower event or not event. It just feels odd having such a selection yet only around 3 - 4 of them that truly stand out in power over the others.
@@ramyadalwasif2527 idk i was able to win nightmare only with rail
Sniper was peak but stopped being used when op stuff came out, and mine layer got overshadowed by the golden version. Laser gunner got replace by golden ranger, and the same goes for juggernaut.
juggernaut still good but yeah g.jug is better
I think the mine layer is the only tower that was power creeped, as every other tower fills it’s own niche other than mine layer, as it’s just objectively worse than it’s golden version.
they should've made golden mine layer be much more focused on bosses instead of just being a better version of mine layer by just making it have a primary target damage, so the enemy that stepped on the mine would be dealt the same 1500 damage but the splash would do like barely anything like 200 damage or smth
@@RagingKade you have never user him i see
juggernaut and mine never got replaced, mine is still used in strats
Laser Gunner when it was at its prime was so peak.
It was a good tower for being the only tower to not have to struggle with anyone with lazer resistance (because the zombies didn't have it back then) and to reveal stealth zombies unit ghost showed up
@@MartinCruz-cv7ve Yep! It only started losing its popularity ever since laser resistance got introduced.
Remember when we used to place Artillery to handle Elite Grenadiers?
@@infoplayer1303 I still do
I never imagined laser gunner to be overlooked nowadays,it was the must have unit before
mine layer was just powercreeped out of existence. not even needed for boss damage anymore due to other towers getting buffed and lots more dps options, and so many other towers can ignore explosive resistance which removed most of its use in endless while gold mine layer does pretty much everything better and can attack far range.
@@tank67132 eh it’s still useful against assailants in endless even if u have g mine layer. Mine layer can still be used.
@@EEEE-u2e If you're below level 80, sure.
Power creep this, power creep that...
Can't we just let this stupid term die? It gets shot around as a silver bullet to every tower argument and it's annoying as all hell.
I also find it funny how I saw no one give a dang about minelayer and golden minelayer until NoL made a video saying G. mine is power creep
Take that with a grain of salt, as it might just be a me thing, but does everyone just follow what the youtuber says? Does everyone only believe what youtubers think?
@@dracoledraconoligist pretty sure Nol fans would believe him but eh mine layer is still useful if well u don’t have g minelayer and can still do good on endless.
Save these towers from the dead
As an old player...back in the day for early game the ONLY good option we had was laser gunner, and that was only changed when granger and slammer stuff came out, and believe me I got so tired of using laser gunner very fast...atleast there are even more cost efficient mid-late game towers now like mobster that add variety
patrol boat is so forgotten even he forgets it
there’s a reason why I didn’t say it in this video
that’s for next video :d
Patrol Boat can literally get you far on endless with hidden supports like Ghost and Sniper and you're good to go at any game mode. It's just literally a mini Warship.
Too bad it doesn't have hidden detection which makes it useless on most parts of the game.
patrol boat is actually insanely good but you barely can see his full potentional because there's not many maps with water for patrol boat
@@Zellnoobtbh it's the best early game tower for expert and can be used at mid to late game when spammed and with HD support, people seem to have forgotten the patrol+sniper solo expert mode.
I beat all impossible maps on expert trio with minelayer being an mvp, baseplate you could say it was slammer or cryo blaster but on deserted it was mine layer
One Problem with Laser Gunner is that he attacks with laser as his name says, and one major problem is that when endless mode came out it introduced Laser resistance and since the Laser Gunner attacks with only Laser and he doesn't get to ignore Laser resistance at all, it makes him really unreliable against Laser resistance enemies. Even Tower Battles and Halloween Event had Laser resistance with Tower Battles having only Hidden Enemies and Boss 3 with Laser resistance, but Halloween didn't have enemies with heavy Laser resistance. But i remember in the early times with only the 4 main modes Laser Gunner was super reliable.
golden laser gunner gonna be wild when it releases-
Ive seen constant use of toxicnator for its bottom path tho?
Yeah, TXN has been used in a lot of strats just because if the extra 10% dmg boost, but flame trooper is much better applying the dmg increase against normal enemies. The only difference is that Toxicnator applies the dmg boost to bosses while flame trooper doesnt
@@UserIsGlassed Adding the targetting limiter just broke this tower's kneecaps. Like, flametrooper doesn't have a targeting limit and can apply damage vulnerabilities to any tower. Why not just remove the targeting limiter at this point?
@@mariustan9275what do you expect bro? It bypass all resistence it's already too op 🤦🏻♂️
@@bendysama1728ranger also bypasses all resistances on the bottom path, and ranger isn’t exactly overpowered
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Well I am not surprised, these towers are mainly used by newer players (lvl 0- 60) and not by higher level players. We call it PROGGRESION, I know scary concept. Also with Artilery, you can make a knock-off warship with those but on land. Oh yeah and toxicator is still used alot tbh.
John when buffing Patrol so people use it: I GAVE IT EVERYTHING EXEPT HIDDEN DETECTION WHAT MORE COULD THEY WANT?
Me: Just give it hidden detection so the name actually makes sense.
Patrol boat is cracked, first REAL DPS tower I bought and it can carry you, only if you play on water maps and bring some anti stealth with you.
toxinator got gutted by the nerf to its enemy hits
yeah and now we have flametrooper
Mine layer in front is actually good, place a few 2-5 mine layer in front of the map on expert from wave31 to 40 these bois gonna deal like 100k+ damage sometime 200k+ which is crazy
I dont think laser gunner and patrol boat are that outclassed but i do believe they could use a buff, as in useful for early to mid game players but later dont get used as much by late game players unless they wanna try something, or it's their favorite tower.
This could have been way longer but i decided that the comment was too long and shortened it, also patrol boat definitely one of my favorite towers in the game.
Or if u just wanna play with a ramdom balanced loadout
@@snowcube_steel with patrol boat, all they need to do is give it hidden detection on the later levels such as level 4s.
1:30 today, I had a dream where I was using top path Laser Gunner (which the UI was showing as bottom path for some reason) for some sort of weird setup. I don't even use that tower much and I have not played TDX in a while as well, so that was either a vision of me watching this video or my brain running out of stuff to show.
even in dream we still grinding
I dreamt about TDX aswell bro 😭 except it was more focused on a UI update that never existed
i remember when railgunner first came out and being so surprised at how expensive he was to buy, today i already got golden juggernaut
good times
toxicnator stacks, making it good for everything but bosses on long maps
sniper can solo expert with mine layer (still)
if would be cool if top path mind layer could mines faster nd have an ability like spike storm >]
Toxicator is a really OP tower. Possibly best splash tower to get before warship. And in John video where he did elite you can see why its so good. And keep in mind! That it got buffed. What i mean with buffed is that now you can get stealth on level 4 top path while it used to be 5.
Do you remember the armored+toxicnator expert solo strat where they used toxicnator as the main dps tower at late game, just like in tds alot of people don't use towers till a strategy that requires these towers comes out.
I would swap artillery out with patrol boat, artillery is still used by lot of people on really any maps, its somewhat good against bosses too and can seriously deal a lot of damage with it having no pierce cap unlike other towers and ignore explosive resistance. Top is still useful for hoards and don't forget that artillery, unlike a lot of late game and high damage towers, CAN be buffed and healed. This even made it useful during the recent chapter 3 nightmare mode, skyhawk being used as a wall. Overrall patrol boat is really mediocure since it can't be placed on many maps, no recent event maps have water on them and maps that do have water on them, people don't play them very much.
Mine layer deserves it's place right now. He's at most C tier, and he is only good in impossible maps.
Missile trooper is rarely used nowadays aswell and it's really good for elite and intermediate too
I hate his face
Man I remember me and my friends using laser gunner in the early game of expert, we used to use it so much while grinding on danger beach to get me warship
Juggernaut's biggest weakness imo is it's the low range for it's price (bottom path)
it has *18 RANGE*
OPERATOR BOTTOM PATH GETS OUTRANGED BY 1
*GOD DAMN OPERATOR HAS ALMOST THE SAME RANGE AS A LATEGAME TOWER*
Edj :
Edj... commander....
It's not that they are not used, but people use the others for grinding, these towers are actually good + support, people just underestimate them, all towers are useful just good on their way.
And most people does not know what powercreep and tower being op btw.
I still use the sniper tower to beat expert mode sometimes cuz it's fun to use
So I think I would take out toxic Nader because it’s very useful in endless mode because of the 10+ damage to bosses
toxic might be more popular today if not for that big nerf it got which made it damage only like 14 enemies i think before the nerf it was infinite
These were left out cuz of inconvenience, sluggish and low cos efficiency
I hope John eventually returns to them and buffs them back to the spotlight
I got a tip to remove CapCut. Make sure to smaller your gameplay. Then cut out the part to make it fullscreen and remove the watermark :) that’s what I do
Sniper is an amazing tower for early-mid with Ok Support and damage for Late game
Reason is that sniper has lots of range, It's able to take down stragglers and deal enough damage to one shot some early game enemies.
Problem is that the dps on Late game is very meh, Late game expects you to have alot of dps with a good amount of hp, Sniper is neither of those, and like counteriser said, It lacks crowd control, But why are you playing a tower defense game without crowd control towers.
I have not used mine layer yet, But i imagine it would be a good straggler killer/boss killer with the only problem is their slow attack and incompetent users.
I don't have cryo ranger (sadge) but i imagine it would be a good single target freezer able to keep up with faster enemies
Toxinator actually deals a decent amount of damage, I haven't used it extensively but i can tell this tower has great early-mid game potential (If people arent incompetent that is)
Laser gunner is... Uhh.. lets say i don't like it..
Sure its a good dps tower for Early-mid-late game... You... Don't really need a crazy amount of dps for early (unless bosses) and it gets outclassed in late game, so it's just amazing in mid-game... Again i must suck at this but...
Arty is fun to use, Recommend only placing one Skyhawk, but I once you get it, You sweep house against any enemy with hp lower than 2000 and its controlled (Bonus points for the hp and explosive resistance)
Me personally, i would say that grenadier and ONLY SOMEWHAT railgunner are also overlooked, as me personally, i NEVER used them, matter of fact, i didnt even buy grenadier yet, i low-key forgot he exists until the Xmas event started, because he's pretty useful in the event. But in a normal mode like expert for example, I'd rather just use: either flame trooper for AOE or slammer for the stun, grenadier is just really outclassed in my opinion.
As for railgunner, i never really went "damn i wish i had railgunner equiped right now" i know that its a decent tower, however i literally never found a situation where i would need him outside of the Halloween event to deal with the flying enemies, but still, XWM did a better job at that 😅 Although railgunner is a good single target damage dealer, and a sub DPS option, I'd still rather use any other sub DPS option as its way more reliable, like the helicopter or XWM turret in endless.
Remember when we use Ranger in Intermediate?
I think one of the reasons not much people use mine layer is because of it being outclassed by its golden variant
I just hate it because they look ugly
Laser gunner was the best early game tower option until golden ranger and slammer came to the game
I use all these towers (besides cyro and artillery) because I think some of the worst towers are some of the most fun towers.
Also dare I say ranger? For the most part ranger can deal with elite mode with supports and additional dps like juggernaut. He can’t kill the boss but kinda mops the floor with the normal enemy’s.
idk why, but the thumbnail looks cool.
shotgunner and patrol boat aswell, even though shotgunner is used frequently in strats not many players use it outside of them
Shotgunner is really useful for the speedrun strats and patrol boats is a really powerful tower only limited by the maps and hiddens so it's usually supported by a hidden remover
@theunknown479 i dont think you read my comment
@blockerton0 im saying that they don't need a buff. They're perfectly fine the way they are. Hell, patrol boat encourages having supports which adds alot to the strategy, and shotgunner can do a pretty hefty amount of dps despite costing around 450 gold
sniper was so peak on chapter 3 halloween when i didn’t own xwm or juggernaut
Max bottom path artillery just Cook's expert swarm after wave 30
This is true i used to use these towers now i use op towers like warship, attack helicopter, golden towers or event towers like relic
Bro i use toxic for ability laser gunner for stun and mine layer top path spam its so op
Still seeing people use artillery in the Christmas nightmare mode
I use artillery, and also toxicnator, im the level 95 guy who doesn't have golden jugg or any of the golden trio because im lazy
Laser gunner the second g ranger came
Everyone just stopped using top path toxic when it got nerfed
Even though it's still really good
...
I don't know why people overlook artillery or laser gunner. Both are still extremely good AND fun to use.
Now someone out there wants to make the argument of "welll erm people overlook them becaushe there r better towersh"
Imo, slammer, heli, and golden towers get boring as HELL to use after playing enough expert and using other towers besides the brain dead cheesy ones is a huge breath of fresh air
Laser gunner was nerfed to death by endless mode.
I say that missile trooper is outclassed
Like the video but i do want to add that sniper can solo expert solo but yeah it is forgotten
powercreep deniers when all of these towers use to be considered good (cryo ranger doesn't exist)
What about cyro copter now against the current ice towers. If it wasn't a event tower then other ice towers would be cooked
You can use mine layer on Christmas map only on nightmare mode
I used to use these for expert, idk why
I would say patrol boat should be a part of this list as no one uses it beacuse its a water towers and it dosent have hidden detection the dps isint every good too and beacuse it has no hidden detection it cant be used as a early game tower or a mid or a late it also suffers from the fact that people dont know how to use it and it just gets thrown in the shadown and in reality it just a waste of a inventroy slot even tho it can help on maps like misleading pond but it still isnt good
The old towers are just ganna get out classed by the new ones every tower you mentioned was meta but now fell due to newer towers
The CapCut watermark 😭
lmao I saw you doing the dance at the end i aint even know it was you bro 😭😭🙏🙏
You forgot the fact that these towers have straight up better versions of themselves
Sniper < Laser Gunner
Mine Layer < G Mine Layer
Cryo Ranger < Cryo Heli and Cryo Blaster
Laser Gunner < Gold Ranger
Toxic is till good idk what you on about
Artillery < Warship or Armored Factory
i use sniper for the neko skin
grenadier , maybe missle trooper
Artillery and Laser Gunner my goats🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Honestly i cant just dont know how to use golden ranger while know how to use everything else
I use artillery just because I like indirect fire support.
Laser gunner my beloved
Counteriser should oil up
Remeber when if you had lazer gunner you were classified a pro
Challenge, Try using 6 of those Towers to win Expert
Toxicnator is my guy tho I always use him because xwm and heli dont get buffed
Bro me and a friend were duoing and he was soloing the frontline while I spammed minelayer but only maxed a few and yet when eradicator came we were about to lose the the a trillion mine layers sent his ass back the Cretaceous period
There’s a reason why they are overlooked🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫
Cryo blaster is i guess kind of forgotten i dont see much people use it
It's still a good tower, cryo ranger on the other hand...
ngl I don't use cyro ranger because cyro blaster is better in almost every way
i own everything in the game yet i still use toxicnator for multiplayer endless mode lol
Missile trooper is also forgotten
mine layer just get outclassed by g mine g mine just better than normal mine in EVERY way
Gotta love how the main reason no one uses these is that they are outclassed. GOTTA LOVE POWER CREEP, AM I RIGHT?
there is NO powercreep, powercreep is NOT a tdx problem, ok maybe exept mine layer
@Friend15739 ok then i will be very happy to wait for you to use jugg over gjugg
@@Friend15739 also if we aren’t comparing ranger to granger then why the f are we comparing mine layer to golden mine layer?
@@Adax_11 cuz golden ranger is to different from ranger, its better to compare ranger with operator
@@Friend15739 all i hear is excuses because you watched that one video, stfu.
atleast toxicnator is still used in endless
Next forgotten map
Sometimes...uh...sometimes...overlooked.
Sniper = Bro got one shot by ANYTHING That deal damage
Riz- Mine layer = Still stay cause the MEME
Cryo Ranger = She is to poor to be on a battlefield...Look at what happen to her in the event...
Laser Gunner = From the goat Got replace to the trash to G ranger Where is him? I don't know alway G ranger went i ring
Artillery = I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO"AIM" WHILE APEX PREDATOR IS GROOMING MY GOLDEN JUGGERNAUT
Toxicnator = If the nerf didn't happen he will become the horde destroyer
All towers who are below age of 18 will take 200% extra dmg from apex predator
My pattern recognition brain the moment i read, "from the, to the"
how is toxicnator forgotten its ability is still cracked
tbh i still use laser gunner for non braindead expert runs. minelayer has always been a pretty bad tower, only used on release when many people didn't have any better towers. now it is too slow at everything, with its golden variant also being pretty much useless on expert (but it carries endless runs) it needs a complete rework tbh.
sniper just needs a buff, i use it sometimes in elite/expert runs but it has awful ce on the early levels. bottom path is nice because it gives stealth reveal, but that's only useful in expert, but jammers also exist in expert so whenever you need to use it you can't. (the jammers are the worst thing in expert you either need to put a ghost in the back and remember to use the drone or get heli/warship)
cryo ranger isn't overlooked 🛹atleast, it gets a fair bit of attention as the worst tower in the game. that being said, it's a good option if you want to get a 3-2 cryoranger to freeze some weaker bosses
toxinator abilltiy is not just useful for bosses 🛹 it applies a entire 30% damage buff to standard enemies. this is really useful for those super buffed enemies in endless, and good against high health juggernauts in expert. the main problem is how useless the path without the ability is. you'd think they'd give it unlimited pierce, but it just ends up having slightly better cc with more drawn out effects, which is pretty bad for td games since it's all about optimizations once you've gotten everything nailed down.
artillery just requires too much attention. it was a good pick for nightmare christmas and nightmare tb, but now it's really only good for elite. even then, skyhawk is too much of an investment when you're probably nearing plague doctor at that point.
Toxicnator should get a passive debuff for enemies like how flametrooper works. especially top path, like reducing their resistances, slowing them, or anything that debuffs enemies
I only use artillery for expert mode
Artillery kinda fell off for me, just cuz of heli and warship but it is still very good, just no one uses them 😕
Sniper is still good idk why they say that it sucks
we all know the best tower is substitute commander :3
I think lasergunner tower is good
Hot take warship he got overlooked cause by heli
Ngl cryo blaster could be also cuz cryo Heli is stronger
laser gunner fell off so hard i feel bad
laser gunner was def most overlooked for real for real he literally fell off so hard
I use my goat toxicnator on every game i do
Toxinator is good for bosses and thats it 😢
Lg was the most drippiest tower
i do use LG on expert
Toxicnators top path nerf sucks ! from being able toe hit unlimted zombies to hardly any...and like yeah alot of these towers are just simpily outclassed
lazer gunner was goated but Golden Ranger/Jugg are so much better