Golf Irons Redefined - Are We All Just Buying Into a MYTH?
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- Are you looking for a golf review of the latest Cleveland Halo XL Full Face Irons? In this video, we will test the performance and quality of these golf clubs and compare them with other brands.
We will also explore the myth behind the redefinition of golf irons and whether they are worth your money. Watch this video to learn more about Cleveland Golf and its innovative products.
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I recently bought a set of Cobra T-rails for the wife (who refuses to practice and get any better or faster). Of course I had to try them out myself when they showed up. I have to describe the feeling of first hitting them as very similar to the first time I sat on a bidet - utterly delightful! So much fun to hit.
A bidet connoisseur I salute u
Damn I gotta try a bidet
It will change your life ....@@kakimotoK20
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Would like to see a comparison between the Halo XL, Cobra T-Rails, Wilson Launch Pads & Tour Edge Hot Launch.
No difference beside the Price 😊
Have been playing the cleveland hb turbo irons ever since your review. I play off a 7 and constantly get questioned by fellow golfers about my choice! No regrets yet!!
I've been interested in these clubs since the HB Turbo's and I keep checking for a used set on ebay just to have around for fun but because they've held their value so well I still haven't been able to get a set. Kudos to Cleveland for being unapologetic in their quest to give golf what it needs rather than just what sells.
I love them, purchased my set last year. In my youth I was a 4.5 hdc, now play to 10 or 12. The divots are a just beyond, you can get real steep and still have a shallow divot. I lost maybe 1/2 club in length but am 100% hitting the ball solid, you can still move the ball but not as much regular clubs. They are just easy to hit and I wish I had made the change years ago. I'm 62 with some health issues so everything helps but I can still shoot in the 70s low 80s as a weekend golfer.
Hi, can i ask, do they make it harder to hit the ball well out of the rough (as the bigger head has more grass to force itself through)?
I agree. Many golfers, even senior golfers, play to their ego. They refuse to move up a tee box or game a max game improvement iron. I started playing the Cleveland HBs when they first cameout, maybe 12-13 years ago, updated about 6 years ago to Launcher HB, senior flex and still game them today. These are the same concept, maybe more tech. In my late 60s and not getting any longer
but still can enjoy the game with help.
I agree. I play with a lot of seniors and these really should be standard for most with that swing speed. I wouldn't care one bit about using clubs like these. My biggest problem is that I'm 6'3" and have good swing speed. The lofts being so strong on the clubs like these just makes the majority of the set pretty useless on most courses. I would seriously consider it if they offered a style of clubs like these with an option for lofts that didn't mean hitting an 8 iron over 200 yards.
I’m a disabled golfer and have been using senior flex clubs… I’m ok with the 4 and will have that as my driving iron…I just couldn’t get on with the feel. (Launcher hb) And at my slow speed I really get similar distances with forged irons. I just get such a better flight with irons. It could very well be the shafts. Off rack.
I have the Cleveland launcher Halo irons for 2 season, they have helped me improve my game. I'm 68 years old with arthritis in my hands, these irons helped me enjoy golf again by having fewer miss hits and giving me a little more distance, great product!
As a Canadian living on the Atlantic coast, I am very jealous of your winter.
Wife just bought set ( last years model). Hits them, higher, farther, more accurately and is having more FUN! Perfect result!
I bought the prior generation at the beginning of last summer. Got 6-SW (7 clubs) for $575. Once you get over the look and sound, they are just super fun to play. I don’t get to play very often anymore and they are just what I needed. ⛳️
They are great. My wife has a set
I don’t struggle to hit irons but as a 4 handicap at 52 I will be looking at these types of clubs when I next need clubs. I currently play 4 hybrids.
Hi Mark, I shoot low 90s, only broke 90 last season as I'm new to the sport in the last couple of years. I swallowed my pride and added a 28 degree PXG hybrid to my bag. Although I didn't have to swallow for long when I started routinely sticking greens from 175 yards, where I couldn't do it b4 except by law of averages, lol. Totally changed my game. And I was getting compliments from my playing buddies on the shots. My next club is a 7i and I'm deadly with that at 150 yards. The high lofted hybrid changed my game and it looks great too. I'm putting a 31 degree into the rotation for this season if I feel like a low stress round or for a super early tee time when I'm rigid. Doing all this to take stress off longer approach shots in order to preserve my mental reserves for the short game this season, which is where I really need improvement in my scoring. I always have the option of swapping one of my set irons back in for any of the higher-lofted hybrids if I feel like it, so I've got max flexibility there. I am also ditching the fairway woods and going from driver to 19 or 22 degree hybrid as the next club in the bag, removing one more variable from my game (I'm way deadlier off the deck with a hybrid vs a fairway which I only hit well off a tee). Anyway, hoping to just really focus on 100 yards and in this season and drop strokes, my ego be damned! And I'm having a lot more fun with the higher lofted hybrid setup, all smiles after hitting them, no shanks! I'm sticking with this club strategy until I break 80 and until I have more time to practice the longer irons. In the meantime, I won't miss the stress on the course. Great review, glad you raised the idea to the masses.
I bought a set of these irons this year. I’m an early 50’s 14 handicap who hits the ball a long way, but seldom where I want to…previously. I decided that function is more important than form, so pulled the trigger buying these. What a difference. My handicap has dropped to an 8 and I’m having way more fun. Everyone who I play with, who have given my clubs a try have been wowed by how good they feel and how easy they are to hit. I can still hit high draws and low stingers when I need, so the notion that game improvement clubs can’t be cheaper is not applicable to me.
Great video, Mark. It is a design that I also believe, should be used by many more players.
As a PGA Teaching Professional myself, I’ve fitted many players with this design (Wilson Launchpad) and they have improved their scores markedly.
Another advantage is, how easy it is to chip with them. Especially 8, 9 and PW.
Always good content, Mark. And you're not wrong to suggest that an iron's functionality/performance should be our main criteria in buying a set of clubs; shooting our lowest scores is, after all, the object of the game. And yet, for some of us -- like me, who took up the game later in life -- if shooting lower scores was the only/primary goal of playing golf, I think the game would've proved too frustrating a long time ago, turning it from a most enjoyable hobby into a stressful slog. I am still trying to get better, and I still always carry my card-and-pencil and keep score, but I also seek out other forms of pleasure from golf, e.g., the prettiness and history and 'symmetry' of old Hogan Apex blades, 2-PW, in a pencil bag, and the thrill-and-great-feeling of sometimes hitting a forged iron right in the sweet post and watching it fly just as imagined, and the challenge of sweeping a 3-wood off the turf well enough to clear the pond up by the green and give me a very rare chance at eagle. So, while those Srixon zx4s that you play seem absolutely ideal (and I'd love to have a set, starting as you do with the 6 iron), the Cleveland Halo XLs are a bridge too far! They might turn an 88 into an 85, but that's simply not worth it to me.
I’m a little confused why so many are talking negative about these game changing irons . Normally very good golfers harping on about aesthetics. Let’s face it , mid -high handicap golfers want improvements, I’m not concerned regards looks . These new style hybrid irons can only be a positive.
I've got the tour edge version of these clubs. I swapped to some ping i200s and am running back to these big boys asap. The only reason I swapped was that on shorter clubs or punchier shots the graphite shafts I had felt too whippy.
Had a set of these brilliant Cleveland offer great products at sensible prices and the new range look fabulous. At the end of the day ditch your ego, enjoy your golf and play better by choosing equipment that works for you. Great video Mark and nice to see somebody offering sound advice to the mid/ high handicapper. Interesting most Pros one piece of advice for amateurs is to play within your capabilities and know your yardages for each club. These irons and the new Zipspeed XL launcher will help your game for sure.
Just bought these irons, game improvement massively for high handicappers like me they are a godsend, enjoying golf again :)
60 yr old 8 hcp, play the wilson launchpad 2, absolutely love them, extremely forgiving and such easy clubs to use. Really helped me to maintain my hcp as I lose a bit of distance as I get older, I would certainly recommend
Bought the 5 and 4 to fill in with my Ping G Max iron set. The 4 I added 2° of loft and 1.5" of length. Filled my gapping nicely
I've admitted defeat and parked my ego! 😮
Since returning to golf last summer after about a 5yr break and found out I just couldn't hit my custom fitted Titleist AP2's like I used to, I'd lost distance and became "directionally challenged"...
So I bit the bullet and picked up a set of the previous generation Launcher XL Halos (from 4-pw) with horror of horror .. graphite shafts from one of the online shops the winter sales..
I seriously couldn't be happier with them, Obviously my playing partners took the proverbial for a few holes when I turned up with them on the first of their debut, then there was a massive silence as I was finding fairways with the 4 "iron" and hitting greens and dropping the ball to a stop on approaches and par 3's!
I've now bought the matching Smartsole 4 50° gap, 58° sand wedges and chipper since then.
Can't wait to see how they perform in the warmer weather now.
Bought these today. I was severely drawing every hit on Trackman until the fitter put in a heavier shaft. Was hitting straight with an ever so slight draw. Can’t wait to get them on the course. Thanks Mark!
How are they working out ?
@@Richkotite1 Love them. I do think I’ve lost some distance but definitely getting more acceptable height apex and accuracy. And my buddies haven’t made fun of them!
@@steveyoung9856 Thanks for the reply. I'm doing a Cleveland demo day this Saturday, so I am going to try em out. Looking forward.
I bought a set of these after watching a few videos. I had to go hit them first to see if I could get over my ego. The dispersion and performance made it an easy decision.
I went to the range the next day and I felt like a king hitting straight bombs with every club.
I am looking forward to dropping my handicap over the next year.
Been looking at Cleveland Launcher XL Halo irons for a long time and l just bought a set of them on sale now when this new version arrives. I am intrigued to play these and this video convinced me to be brave and go for it.
I have them also...and yes I think the main difference are that the groves are all over the club face on these new ones. Gimmick... I like the look of the old ones better. Seriously the clubface was already BIG on the old ones.
Have the older models and I'm very happy with them! 35 years old, 18hcp and been playing for 25 years!
Had actually thought of getting the Halos but couldn't find a good review and wanted to get my first new set and with just getting back into golf after 15yrs bought the Stix set. Regret it from the stand point of my strike still sucks so in turn I'm still looking for a close to 100 much less being able to break 100. Surely I understand these will not fix my swing but maybe would help getting height and length with irons. All that being said THANK YOU for showing us a genuine honest review.
I got mine last week and first weekend out, they were wonderful.
I really liked what you said previously about these irons. If clubmakers sat down and said starting from scratch with no preconceptions or biases what is the most effective design we can come up with to help golfers period. This is likely the result.
I've been playing a set of Wilson LP2s now for about a year and, being 74 now, they make the game easier for me. All I care about is the result for my game as my days of playing my old MacGregor MT irons are in the past. I only wish I'd had these irons 20 years ago.
I have not got these clubs but recently bought a second hand set of Cleveland HB Turbo irons 6-PW. Graphite senior shafts. Cost me £140. I thought my take might be useful to mid-high handicappers out there. Background, over the last ten years as an occasional golfer (Maybe 15-20 rounds a year), my handicap has varied between 14-24. During that time I was playing with Wilson pro staff graphite, regular shaft and then Caley steel shaft. I have a dodgy back due to many years playing in the front row. So, the middle section of my back doesn't do much and consequently my swing is restricted. I'm 59, but suspect my back is what you might call more senior. My back is about as flexible as a lead pipe. As a guide, a six iron used to go about 150 yards but over the last few years this has reduced so that my 6 iron was more like 135 to 140. I took some lessons and the feedback was that due to my restricted swing I was doing about as good as I could. Frustrating. So, having looked at various videos about hybrid sets, including this very useful one, I thought I would try the Cleveland Hybrid Turbo irons out. I got the graphite senior shafts. Just got back from the range. BIG improvement as follows: 6 iron now goes 165 as opposed to about 140. In terms of forgiveness, improvement. I was hitting them off the toe and the heel, but the variance was I would say about 10 yards width ways although of course some sacrifice on distance. In other words, if I hit the 6 iron well, it was accurate and going about 165, with a restricted swing. If I hit it badly, it was going about 150 with a 10 yard width variance. Good enough for me and that's with my first brief hit. I did consider the ego perspective of playing with hybrids. My conclusion, I'm not going to turn pro anytime soon. I play golf to have a nice relaxing round away from the other stresses of life. I think these hybrid irons are going to achieve that much more than if I continued with the Caley steel shaft irons. So, if like me, you are getting on a bit but want to hit accurately with reasonable distance, I would recommend. Put the ego aside. Actually at address, they don't look too much different until you get to the 6 iron and below. And even if they don't, so what? Most of my golfing pals use hybrids below 6 iron anyway. Hope this helps. Happy golf
Mr. Crossfield- Your "fade the ball" dance was quite impressive!
I’ve gone to these kind of clubs a half dozen times in the past but always end up back in distance players irons. I think before the filled cavity irons came along, these were great, but now not so much.
I’m here for the giggles…but, I love the conversation around these irons. Yes… I’ll admit, I am all about soothing that ego on the golf course. That said, I think that if I just wanted to have some fun on a course and I didn’t have my own set I’d totally give them a shot. I’d absolutely love it if I saw a tour player game these…. Thanks for the review Mark! LOVE IT!!!
I've been gaming these since the last version came out. I'm older with a slower swing speed due to some injuries and these irons make it easier. The 5 iron punch is a goto shot from the woods every time. Recently I started using the Callaway Max ball and having a blast. I'll take any advantage that tech will give!
I have a set of Launchers from 5 or 6 years ago . I’ve never been comfortable using them, it’s time to go back with a more traditional looking club.
Guy Canada 🇨🇦
Cleveland have been releasing irons in this style since 2008, and I can't imagine why more golfers don't use them. The first two playing partners I came across who used them (around 2010) both said the only problem they had was getting used to hitting the ball 1/2 club farther than they had been hitting it. I bought a set of the Cleveland Altitude Irons (released in the 2000-teens) 7 years ago for an old senior friend as a parting gift, when I retired and moved south for year-round golf.
Had an old set of these too get me through a confidence crisis. The looks didn't bother me. Switched back to a CB with more traditional lofts now. I'm not into all the latest jacked lofts 👍
Well that’s too bad because you’re missing out I play off 5 my course is 6900 yards from the blue tee’s and 7200 from the black I switched from traditional forged cavity backs to ping G430 and couldn’t be happier close to 2 clubs longer love the jacked lofts
While older in nature of manufacture, I game a set of Cobra Transition S hybrids and I also game a set of Cleveland HiBore hybrids I custom built. You are correct it is an ego thing, I had to realize that for me I was older, had come out of some severe health issues and I wasn’t the golfer I used to be in the past. I would definitely game these clubs. Last year I switched to a set of of Taylormade Burner Plus irons and suffered all year in accuracy and distance. Will probably be switching back to my Cleveland HiBores which are fit to me. The down side on these for me would be price! Great video!
I'm an older guy I drive the ball pretty well but that second shot....oy! just awful. A few weeks ago i told my playing buddy I think it's time to go to hybrid irons...so I knew about the XL halos so I'm looking on Clevelands website and there is a demo day about 40 minutes away so I signed up. I talked with the Cleveland rep, and i start hitting the Halo XL PW. I like it, shots are going up straight...he takes it back changes the shaft to a senior then hands me the 7. After a few swings he changes heads (Lie) and all shots went up into the air. Really nice feeling. I ordered them, I am trying them tomorrow. Had them on the range on Wednesday. Really like them. I just took the pitching wedge and some balls behind my place and practiced some chips. Feel super easy to chip with the PW. I'll let everyone know tomorrow.
I have a blended set and I do miss the feeling that I used to get from my old forged 5 iron when I really flushed it. I might get more help from an iron like this, but not sure I want to give up that lovely feeling you get from a softer club face when it’s properly hit.
Love these irons. I play a single handicap and would definitely consider getting myself a set of these. They just look like so much fun. It was good to see Mark that you could play knock down shots with the club and punch it under trees, I live in a high wind area that can ruin your score. That was the question that I had, and you just answered it. Thanks
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Wave Transmission at Impact
When the clubhead strikes the ball, some energy is reflected back into the shaft while some is transmitted to the ball:
The relative impedance of the clubhead and ball affects energy transfer
A stiffer shaft may transmit energy more efficiently
However, the extremely brief impact duration (less than 1 millisecond) limits the shaft's influence
While shaft flex waves are a complex phenomenon, their practical impact on performance is still debated. For most golfers, proper shaft fitting based on swing speed, tempo, and feel is more important than the nuanced physics of wave propagation.
Thanks Mark once more for your no-nonsense approach. A full set sounds too much to me, I always think these models will not give you enough feedback on your hits to adjust the next. But your consistency in 'are you allowing yourself the help you really need?' storytelling did make me get a 5-hybrid and the famous Crossy wedge, two of the best gear decisions I ever made. I was wondering, is there a maximum weight to clubheads in regulations? These Halo's appear to be heavy(ish) to my eye.
First of all, you are my favorite go of TH-camr great videos all around! My question is: as I am a sweeper and do not take a lot of divots, would these irons balloon too much maybe? What do you think?
I got them for this reason. I am sweeper as well. I was told these would suit me better.
I have had my Cleveland hibore turbos for years, they are brilliant, im 60 and official handicap is 5. Any amateur not playing the most forgiving clubs is costing themselves several shots every round. My 4 iron with the roll and bowl is a weapon. I have 4 iron through dual wedge everyclub is easy to hit
I play some Taylormade Gloire max game improvement irons and have a 9 handicap. They are easy to hit, straight and long. They allow me to hit all the shots I want to and give me all the help I need. Don’t be afraid to hit larger irons people! They make golf fun!
I play off 12 and use the Cleveland Launcher HB Turbo irons.
Unless you're a seriously good player who is looking to be able move your irons either way, then use a hybrid iron set.
If you don't you're putting your ego before your score.
I have been intrigued by this type of Cleveland irons ever since the first generation came out and I had the opportunity to try them and really liked them, even the looks. Problem is that were I live (Central Europe), it is next to impossible to get them with anything other than senior flex graphite shafts, and my swing speed is still a little too fast for those. I hit them very high and short, which is not a good thing on the very windy courses in my area.
The problem i would have with these is not ego, but that i tend to hit irons high. I have a feeling these would come down with snow on them.
They just remind me of the 1996 Callaway Big Bertha irons that were so poplar ,( I actually just sold my original set to a kid at the golf course I work at and he loves them ) The top line is thick and with fat soles and easy to hit .
I actually took them out just before I sold them and played very well with them !
I'll be honest, the only thing iffy thing about these new ones are the low spin numbers. I play the previous Halo's and my 8i goes closer to a reading of 6800-7200 when I did my only ever gap test. I like some spin, its my friend.
I currenty have the same Cleveland irons I boight back in the 80's. My irons are Cleveland VAS Offset Irons. I remember one guy told me they look like garden tools. But I loved them then and still love them now. I have had my VAS Irons for im thinking 40 years now, (or more). I know I bought them the first year they hit the market. They have seen alot of golf.
By the way, I'm 69 now, a Senior Golfer.
But my long Irons have not been my go to's. I feel very confident with my tight lies 3 , 5 and 7 fairway woods. I have been thinking of a change in my bag, removing my long Irons in favor of some more fairway woods to replace my 3,4,5. Something like fairway woods 9, 11, and 13. After seeing these new Cleveland "Fat Boys", I wondering if these might fit the bill. I am going to try them as I like there design.
One thing I do know is Cleveland , in my opinion, make a great set of irons and always seems to push the envelope beyond triditional blade irons. You just won't know a Cleveland until you swing one.
I have a set of these, they rock! I tried several other expensive set of player's irons and got tired of only hitting 1/5 good shots. It is now 4/5 with the Clevelands. Most people don't even look at your clubs, and I rarely do either. I've played entire rounds with a stranger on the same cart, and couldn't tell you after what brand of irons they had. IMO it's far more embarrassing to have a $1200+ set of beautiful players irons and suck ass with them, than to have these in the bag and hit good shots. The score card doesn't know what club you used, and who cares what some weekend hack struggling to break 90 thinks... Now, if you have these and still suck, then sure, might as well carry some that are prettier so you can pose with them. ;)
I'm still using my original set of Adams A2 OS. Similar in many ways. IMO the Cleveland Halos are well worth the money.
I have Mizuno Hot Metals, the 4,5 and 6 are the hot metal HL, which are awesome and easy to hit. only problem I have had, it's a different swing with them compared to a regular shaped iron, it's all in my head I know, just takes getting used too. off the tee, they bomb down the fairway
I use them and love them...
I can hit hybrids, but I consistently fat the oversized super game improvement irons. So, I carry 3 hybrids - 4 (22*), 5(25*) & 6 (28*) - and start my irons with a 7 iron (30.5*).
I've recently started golfing again after a dozen rounds total in the past 30 years, and zero the last 6. Being a researcher by nature, I dipped into YT and reviews pretty hard before buying a set. I ended up with the reiteration of these from 2 years ago. I got a good deal on all 9 clubs (3 wedges, 4-9i). Most of that was based on your reviews and explanation, which were spot on. I had no idea where I'd be with my swing, or what kind of slice/hook/etc. I would have. Having these in the bag took away a lot of that worry, and they proved to be very helpful. I figured I would game them until I got back in the swing of things (pun intended), then switch to blades again after my confidence could be restored. I took 10-15% off what my distance would've been back in the day, and just swung freely. It was fairly accurate, and I could feel the forgiveness with toes and such. The only downfall is distance that is lost by loft. I used to be a high hitter with my irons (normal blades). These go even higher, and so much so that the wind played havoc with them on some of my shots. All in all it was a good first round of 100 off the backs, stroke play, and no mulligans. I see no reason to not have these in the bag permanently. Thanks again for this good video, as well as the previous reviews.
If these were out before I bought my PXG irons I definitely would have given these a shot... Iron play is definitely my weakness
I returned to golf after a 35 year break, after a few months, I found the Cleveland Launcher irons. I bought a set and my handicap came down 5 shots that summer.
The next season, I got a deal on the new Launcher Halo XL and dropped another 5 shots. So easy to hit, so forgiving off a range of lies, long enough to compete with equivalent players. A great investment. Golf is hard. Why make it harder just to assuage your ego? Your ego does fine when you start winning a few competitions.
Love this style of club. My wife plays them. These spin numbers look lower than previously
Would like to see you review something along the lines of the Eleven or Lazrus hybrid irons. Thanks for the great information Sir.
Bought last year’s Halo XL’s based on your comments and love them.
I like these and the Wilson Launch pad :-). longest iron in my bag 7 iron 6 to 4 hybrid
Got the clevelabd hb hybrid irons from 2017 amazing clubs soft feel off the face so easy to hit these need to tried graphite shafts on these
Mark, I've been following you for a long time. I really enjoy your trips abroad with your pals. Any chance you will be resuming these trips any time soon?
I tried these during an iron fitting and they are good on the launch monitor. I found but they “feel” heavy for me, if that’s overall weight or swing weight I’m not sure but didn’t overly like that.
It’s funny you spoke of blending with a players wedge, I actually have smart sole wedges and wouldn’t trade them out, absolutely love them. They are really encouraging to engage that sole and the higher and softer landing chip shots are a breeze now.
I ended up with Cobra 5 & 6 hybrids, then 6-PW Cleveland launcher XL and smart sole wedges and chipper. I would say the best bag I’ve ever played with, really happy with all clubs.
Love mine 4-PW.
I’ve got the Cleveland Launcher HB Turbo irons and love them, so much so I’ve added to the original set with the DW wedge and the 4 iron (which is easier to hit than my old Titleist rescue). My question is are these newer irons worth upgrading to?
I most definitely would improve my score with game improvement irons. I feel I wouldn't improve my skills though. I'm not that bothered about my score . I get much more satisfaction from sweet strike and shot shape. Might only get a few a found but boy it's nice when it happens .
Great video mark! I game the rife RX4 hybrid irons, does make my performance better without question.
What a great detailed review. I’m going to try those out. Thanks for the video.
I LOVE my Cleveland. I put the 6iron (which i use as my 5iron) to bridge to my hybrids. I average 184 carry, 4800 spin.. and have so much confidence over the ball compared to my Wilson CB 5i. Works a treat!!! I’m holding it on greens and can’t do that with the Wilson 5i.
Hmmm. I wonder who to thank for that? #CrossfieldCirca2019 👏🏻🎉Keep preaching, brotha!
If more of us used irons for performance instead of looks, our scores would improve. Something I need to look at when I buy new irons this year.
I’d play these as a 12 HCP and all in for forgiveness and disregard looks IF.. there’s reduced offset (as my bad shot is a hook), AND I’m able to keep my distance gaps at 86mph 7 iron swing speed of 170 yards. So absolutely keep the forgiveness but not at the expense of hook and power lofts
I think these would suit me. A couple of years back I let the pro talk me out of getting a set of the rather similar Wilson Launchpads, on the grounds that there was no resale value on them when compared to a proper set of forgiving irons (Ping G410). I wonder if I could find a cheap second hand set now?
I just bought an entire set of Halo XLs (Driver, 3W, 3+HyWood, 4H, 5i-9i, PW, AW, SW and a Smart Sole 58*) from a pre-owned site. Crazy deal and super happy with the purchase.
I loved the launcher Hb turbos from a good few years ago. And I have just ordered the XL launcher halo version from 2020 as an upgrade. These look very similar but I think with just stronger lifts and full face grooves?
How do they compair to Wilson launchpads or ping 430
Driver 10 degree loft, the 5-6 degrees or 8 degrees between clubs. Up to 60 degrees. That gives you, 8-10 clubs max plus a putter, for a full set.
I tried the older version of these. I hit the ball well but couldn’t feel where on the face I was striking the ball. It makes it hard to adjust and know what is going on, so I changed back to a more standard iron. Decent clubs, just didn’t give me the feedback I needed.
What feedback are you looking for though mate.
Unless you're able to adjust your swing/set up etc if you hit a few off the toe, what good is the feedback?
I use hybrid irons and get all the feedback I need.
@@user-lq6os6bd5b I can feel if I hit more on the toe, heel, high or low on the face. That was much harder to discern with these clubs. I am a 10 handicap but getting older. Was just hoping to see if they were easier to hit, and they definitely were, but without the feel I can drift off center strike and not be aware enough to adjust. I realize for a higher handicap it might not matter and they don’t know their swing well enough and just want forgiveness. In that case, these are perfect.
@@user-lq6os6bd5b I can tell the difference between high or low on the face, toe and heel. These felt like a bit of a sledgehammer. It’s not a bad thing, I think they are super beneficial and great clubs. I do understand how to adjust my setup and swing to get results, but also many higher handicaps don’t, and these are perfect clubs for them, just not me.
This is just a suggestion, it would be better if you let a high handicap use those clubs and then vlog it.. we all know your a good golfer
I would agree completely. Would like to see a 20+ handicapper play these and show improvement 👍🏼
mark appreciate if you might do an update on one length irons. sterling, cobra, etc.
I'm a single handicap golfer, but since I'm now 74 I put the previous version XL Halo Launcher irons in the bag, although I sometimes play my older TaylorMade irons as well. The XL Halos, though, are incredibly forgiving, especially in damp, winter conditions in the U.S. Midwest (when we can play ; )
These have 8gram weights at the grip end of the shaft. I'm wondering if these really make any difference, as 8grams doesn't seem that one can really feel that. A heavier grip would seem to accomplish the same thing.
I bought the cobra T rails 4-sw
But have now changed to driver 5,7,9 fwy woods and 8 - lw PXG 0211 dc irons better for me
I am playing the halo irons
I do like them a lot
First second hand set I ever owned was a set of browning irons that were very similar to these
If I ever get another set will be these or very like
They do look like fun I play Callaway apex and I like them but I don’t always have a perfect strike. I blend in to hybrids at 4 but I would like to play a round with them.
Just a question, with the counter balance weights, can we still install our Shot Scope tags in these?
I can't speak for this particular model, but when I bought a Cleveland Launcher Hy-Wood, the Shotscope tag would NOT screw all the way inside, and snapped off while inside my golf bag.
Thank you!@@joeperez3520
Do you believe there’s any meaningful difference between these and the prior version? Most of the spec looks the same, aside from the full-face, so curious if that provides any significant improvements to toe shots?
If you have the others for me you are good to go. 👍
These seem noticeably lower spinning than the previous version Launcher Halo XL. Any comparison between the two?
I have Callaway X20 irons from 2008, now I'm a little older, rounder and less flexible would you advise that it is time for me to try something a little more helpful like these?
These have a market prob more for beginners or seniors but if I got to a stage where I had to use them I would need some convincing
Just continues new club designs.
Clearly the thing about a set of golf clubs are clubs of varied lofts.
From driver to putter.
Probably can make sets that are all generally one length , have same swing, and have clubs with have lifts that maybe are 5-6 degree or more difference. Probably would bring the number of clubs in an average set down to 10, including a “driver” and “putter”. Weird, but could be the future trend.
6 iron is now my top iron, should have done it sooner
just a question where can you get fit for srixon and cleveland iron golf clubs in the south west of england?
Still game my old Halo hybrid, haven't found an easier club to hit yet.
I’m a 10 handicap and I play game improvement irons! The best flight, easiest to hit clubs I’ve ever played. Mis hits are almost nonexistent with them! I’m also 50 and serious plan on switching over to something like this when I’m ready to upgrade in a couple of years. We’re not pros, so we shouldn’t be playing with pro equipment!
Mark another brilliant video
Excellent review!