Apple Tree Spraying - FIMCO 40 Gallon Sprayer
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- After 9 years of watching my apples get eaten by bugs, I am trying an organic solution. This is part one of a series of my attempts to control the dreaded plum curculio. I will be spraying my trees with Surround WP kaolin clay after the petals fall from the trees. I need to time the spray to avoid hitting my bees. In this part, I assemble my new FIMCO 40 gallon 3 point hitch sprayer and do a test spray with dormant oil. Part 2 will be the Surround application.
This is not an ad. I bought this sprayer at Zoro Tools and just want to say I was very impressed with their prices and unbelievably fast (free) shipping. Again... no affiliation. I just want to share the tip.
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It’s amazing how many things are out there just waiting to attack your fruit. Last year we got hit by cedar rust and Japanese beetles on our year old trees. This year we sprayed. After planting our own fruit trees I gained a lot more respect for what real farmers do.
Looking at getting apple trees... Looking forward to apple tree series!
Love the video, we're planning to put an orchard on our land this fall. Great timming
I’ve got a 1960 601 workmaster, I converted mine to 12 volt and put electronic ignition in it, a 50k volt coil, it starts on the first turn of the motor and runs so much smoother, the fire is weak in those old 6 volt systems! I bought a Fimco sprayer on wheels, I’m hoping it will spray far enough to get my trees done!
Love your little videos! You crack me up and I enjoy all of them. Thank you!
On our families farm we sprayed our fruit. We sprayed before the trees bloomed and immediately after they formed their fruit. We got little to no big damage.
If it were me I'd make the wand a bit longer if you had bigger trees.
What a sweet farm you have. One lotta ticket away myself-lol
It will be interesting to see how this works out. It's just clay. And used after the bees have finished pollinating.
It will work. It's the only organic solution to the plum curcolios.
Oh, I sure hope so. Clay! Go figure. It simply baffles me to see chemical companies pressure farmers to spray. And farmers know it is harmful to bees, continue to use chemicals while stating the need for pollination. It's a real big problem in Japan. I wish it would stop.
Stylet oil..... Thanksgiving, Christmas and Valentines Day here in North Carolina. Love the Bee videos.
Holy cow! that thing's enormous.
I'm an elderly lady looking for a spray for my apple trees
you got to be kidding me?!!!😡
Its good that you tell its not an ad and/or do when it is. There is different regulations worldwide when or how this has to be mentioned. Regulations range from "none" to "report it somewhere (like at the bottom of the description or hide it in small print in the last 0.5 seconds of the video" to "report it in the video/sound/media at the beginning/(repeat it) at the end" etc. Following the law of the least tolerant, mentioning it in the video upfront would make you compliant everywhere.
jo han As of now, I've never made a sponsored video.
And yet I've seen more "this is not an ad" warnings from you then from youtubers who do have sponsors :) Keep it up, I hope you do get some sponsors/projects at some time, because you are already compliant and I'd trust you'd tell me beforehand when you do :).
also, you can spray in the evening to avoid honey bees.
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Great video. Thank you!
im very happy you didnt put a nay nay joke in there when you said Whips
I'm too old to understand this reference.
dang i was really hoping to not have to spray my trees or use any kind of pesticides. Just got my bees last friday and my 11 fruit trees are blooming. I wont get fruit for a few more years cuz they're pretty young but still. Keep us updated on this! I would love to get a series on your fruit trees... and all farm stuff to be honest.
Surround is not a pesticide. It doesn't kill anything. It creates a physical barrier and then washes off. We're a few weeks away from blossom fall and the actual spraying, but I will document everything I do. Stay tuned.
How is the Fimco sprayer holding up?
I used it about 5 times for apples last year and it’s been in the garage since last summer. I’m about to start spraying again in the next week or so. For my use, I found the pump pretty weak... but I’m spraying pretty thick, sludgy clay/water mix. If it was just a standard watery spray, I’d think it would be fine. I’m looking into retrofitting a PTO pump onto it. The tank and hitch are great.
Great video thanks
I made a video a couple of weeks ago on Surround prep and spraying. Will upload it soon. But this season has been a near complete disaster. I timed the spraying perfectly for my sour cherries, apples and peaches. Rain has totally made this year pretty much worthless. I have curcolio damage on most of my apples and peaches. Hopefully I can salvage some but its really bad feeding damage. I think the trees have been too wet for too long, I went out today and saw a feeding curculio on an apple. It was covered in surround except for where it was feeding. They seemed to have left the sour cherries alone. The sweet cherries are a total lose because of brown rot. I timed it wrong on my initial spray.
MarcsAdventures Sorry to hear that! I have a video shot but haven't edited it yet. I've done three sprays around the rain and things are way better than they ever were. Still a bunch of curculios and some damage, but not like the past few years with literally every apple having holes. I'm impressed that the rain doesn't totally wash off the surround. I need to do another round this weekend. I look forward to your video. Sorry about your fruit!
Glad to hear it! Surround does work. Yeah I have not sprayed in about a week and I still have lots on the trees even with torrential rains and constant dreary conditions. Under ideal conditions I can have near 100% protection. I think they claim about 80%? The name of the game is not total control but management when it comes to organic. I only had a brief moment to check the trees but what I was was pretty bad. Discouraging seeing those little bastards sitting on your fruit! LOL I will try to edit and upload soon. Been really busy with a bathroom remodel among other things. :)
Any update on your spraying plan. I am looking for how it has worked. (i have a 50 tree orchard and am looking for treatment equipment setups)
Hard to tell if the dormant oil actually does anything. As for the Surround clay treatment, I DID notice a reduction in plum circulios which are the worst pest we have. However, the Surround requires re-application every week or after any rain. So it was a grind trying to keep it on. After a couple years of struggling to stay ahead of the curculios I took some time off from spraying. I’m trying to find an alternative spray program. It is incredibly difficult to grow organic fruit at this scale, alone, with a million other things going on in life. If all I did was tend to the trees, I could probably get some good fruit out of them, but if you miss one treatment or have a bad year of pests, the crop is gone. Deer and porcupines have also become a big problem lately. The battle with nature never ends.
@@vinofarmBeen there, done that. I feel your pain. I stopped dormant oil spray because I didn't see a difference in my lot. I tried Surround. Too much work. I now spray once with insecticide after petal fall. It is the best compromise for me. The actual fruits don't see any spray. I get enough of a harvest for me and my family. Not close to perfect, but acceptable.
Anyone who thinks they can plant a lot of "anything" and have wonderful harvests without some sort of spray, well, they lack actual experience. You think apples are tough... try stone fruit. Every disease, bug, vermin, and varmint wants to destroy the trees or eat the fruit.
Bottom line... to get a decent harvest you will need to spray something. Find the sweet spot where you spray the least amount for an acceptable harvest.
The air we breathe has chemicals in it, but we still breathe it. Everything has platic micro particles in it, but we can't stop living because of it. We can control some things, so we do the best we can with what is available and keep on keepin on.
All the best in what works for you.
The problem is that most of us started these vineyards and orchards before TH-cam and we lacked experience and had no mentors.
@@doityourselflivinggardenin7986 I gave it about 12 years before realizing that I was not going to be an apple grower. The pests did not stop and a lot of the pest prevention just led to more issues. The final nail in the coffin was mice girdling the bases of all my trees over our extended winters. Before you realize you have a problem, the damage is already done. The only thing that grows here with zero insecticides or sprays are blueberries. Fencing keeps away the mammals. The birds do eat a lot, but leave way more than we can possibly harvest.
@@vinofarm I stabilized the apple trees. I use standard size trees, fences for each for 5 years, and 2' tall hardware cloth cages at the bottoms until the fence is removed. I then paint the trunk with a mix of white latex paint, water, and drywall spackling. The mice and rabbits don't like the spackling feel on their teeth. All trees must have all limbs above deer browsing height. I do this with ALL fruit trees now. Vineyards are fenced in electric or wire fencing. All young vines not behind chicken wire must have 2' hardware cloth bottoms for 4 years, after which they can be removed.
Keep grass away from tree trunks or you will get rot or pest problems that will eat the bark. There is a reason why orchards use Roundup around trees.
It is a real PITA, but I either do this or quit. Frankly, I am seriously considering dropping stone fruit. If I get a harvest of any size, it weakens the tree and the next year a disease will find it and kill it. I don't spray enough to thwart that and I have no intention of doing so. It is cheaper and easier to u-pick at a commercial orchard. If I need to use that much spray, my fruit will be no better than theirs.
All the best.
Hi ! For the grapes ever tried spray them with nutleaves ?
I just planted apple trees for the first time...this year. Do you only spray the dormant oil in spring, or do you also spray it in autumn after the apples are picked and the tree leaves have all fallen off? I know I won't be having apples for a few years so that I can let the tree grow (I will keep them culled), so should I be spraying the dormant oil at these early life stages on the apple trees, or only after they bear fruit for the first time?
Scott Smith Dormant oil is sprayed when the tree is ‘dormant’ and when there is no danger of freezing temperatures. So a good time is late winter when the days warm up, but the buds have not started forming yet.
If you buy a DC-to-DC converter, you can turn that 6V into 12v with a converter and eliminate the battery at all. Just run the pump straight from this.
This is not a sponsored link, I just am providing this as an example of what to buy. If you want to delete this comment, I am okay with it. Just let me know that you at least saw it?
This here should work, provided the little electric pump doesn't draw too much current. I don't think it would, but I just don't know. I would do more research specifically on that though. But, I mean, at least it would be one less battery to go bad, and you could use it to put bright LED lights and stuff on it. Or a radio.
Or charge a drone battery. Or maybe a little air compressor to keep the tires just right pressure? Just a bunch of thoughts.
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Love the videos!
Thanks, Yes. I am aware of the converters. I just wanted to make the sprayer work and not fuss with wiring. Maybe I'll get adventurous and try doing this someday. I never have much luck when I start taking my tractor apart.
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Anybody know what was used in the past to spray apple trees in place of dormant oil?
I do and you all will be shocked
Hi Vino, how did it go last year? Are spraying surround this year too?
I did not do it last year because we had a really rainy spring. I may go back to it this year if conditions are right. It requires constant re-application after heavy rain. I just didn't have a good window to even start applying it last year.
Isn't it usual to add copper to the oil for ending winter treatments in the US?
I have heard of this, but I have not tried it yet.
Vino Farm until certains limits it is organic (in Europe). I do two treatments on our fruit trees (cherrys, peaches, Apples, etc) before and after the trees have flowers and it is effective against most types of fungus.
maybe it´s a scooter battery, which is maintenance-free.
Cool stuff. How many apple trees do you have? How long was the hose from the 40 gal tank to the sprayer?
bwakel310 This little orchard has 25 apples, 3 pears and a peach. Then there's 125 dwarf espalier apples in the 'vineyard' rows but they're not fruiting yet.
25' hose on the sprayer.
Vino Farm I’d love to some pictures/video of the trees you have espaliered! Are you just treating them like grapes, or some other structure?
When did you shot that video? Snow in May? (I'm living in the same climate zone, at 900mNN, yet no snow anymore)
Slugdog The snow was on April 19. It was gone the next day. We had freezing nights 5 days ago and it hit 87f yesterday. Weird weather.
We had around 87f 2 weeks ago, now we're back to 62f, I guess its a cold wind from Scandinavia. In funny years there'll be snow in June.
have you thought about spraying with neem?
I have used neem on vegetable plants. I know it is used on apple trees in certain situations. Not sure at the moment. I have not heard it being used on plum curculio, which is the giant problem.
It won't work on the PC. I tried it for a few seasons. They just laugh at you when you spray them with it. LOL
Not sure if that helps but when using any oil for spraying add some dish soap to dilute the oil so it wont stay on the surface of the water, continun the great work and congratz for your channel
Thanks for the advice!
Is that a 601 ?
Basically... It's a 641 Workmaster (1961)
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shoulda read jadam
You're going to need a bigger battery.
I don't know... I did the entire orchard on one charge... Sprayed about 30 gallons no problem. If it gets to be a hassle, others have suggested a converter to make my tractor work with the sprayer. THere's always a solution.
I have the previous version of this sprayer. The tank cracked recently and now the only replacement is the tank that you have. I'm leery of it since I had to significantly modify my sprayer to make it reliable for my use. What is your opinion now that you've had it for a while? th-cam.com/video/OQ5RCO-NGNc/w-d-xo.html
This is the 3rd video about this sprayer and you know what? NO ONE HAS SHOWN THE SPRAYER WORKING YET!!!!!!!!!!
Why are you making a video yapping on and NOT EVEN SHOWING THE SPRAYER SPRAYING!!!!!!
beeewarned Apparently you got all worked up and typed this whole comment out before you got to 5:50 in the video.
Or you could try to find a genetically modified apple tree resistant to specific diseases and those beetles, may be hard to find though and it would also take a long time to grow them. This is more of a "sustainable future" approach.
wolf forces There have been no fruit trees genetically bred to stop Plum Circulios. They have been the one pest organic apple growers have been fighting forever. From what I've read, Surround is the only solution.
Also, Surround is literally just clay. It's non toxic. It just makes the apples' surface scratchy and uncomfortable for the beetles. It washes right off by the time the apples are harvested.