New Toyota GR Corolla owner hit with $42k Repair Bill with 500 mile ODO
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- New Toyota GR Corolla owner hit with $42k Repair Bill with 500 mile ODO
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"money shift" is not Toyotas fault, that's the shifters fault.... 🤦🙄
True, but 42k to replace a 4banger in a turbo shitbox?
@@apexcrazyful Crazy for sure, compared to. Toyota gas spring for 350euro makes me not surprised. In EU it's more common to source components 2ndhand even dealerships use crashed cars functional parts to save costs.
but why does the repair cost more than the retail price of the car?
@@scottmcshannon6821 Maybe same reason a Toyota oem gas spring for trunk door cost 350 Euro while the same spec from same factory cost 15 Euro? Or why a battery to a Ev can cost more than the value of the car? Its simple pure margin and sales tactics.
No way this is the whole story. He was thrashing the **** out of that car. I’m with Toyota on this one. But the repair cost is crazy.
The "synchros" wouldn't let you downshift that extreme. You'g hear and feel a bunch of grinding and never get into gear. Anyone that has driven a manual transmission in a performance car should know that. There is a whole bunch more to this story that we don't know about.
I drive a Toyota mpv, two months ago I complained about having difficulty to get into reverse gear, then the Toyota dealer representative asked the mechanic to check it. Result was suggesting to change the clutch.
Days after that the representative called me to confirm and managed to made schedule for the repair. After sometimes when it was too hot, the car had hiccups like on the acceleration when the gas pedal pushed to accelerate.
Then returned to be fixed and it was done. But when near the regular service time, it happened again the hiccups like acceleration.
Then regular service time came and I lodge the complain, so the representative in Toyota dealer told me that some engine's part needed to be replaced with the new ones which were the spark plugs.
But after somedays when the car became too hot it got that hiccups like acceleration symptoms again. What the heck is wrong with original Toyota dealer repairing their own original product 🧐
I expect all automakers to go through a brand reputation reset in the transition to EVs. Making a reliable gas powered car does not get you points in the EV world. Yet again another reason for the attempt to delay the transition.
There is no transition to EVs
EVs e less reliable than ice in practice. In theory, if you don't understand Electronics, software, the mechanical and thermal failure modes of electronics (especially batteries), charging(fueling) issues, etc then yeah, you think they're reliable. You all will see, soon enough that you've mostly been tricked in to temperamental, disposable vehicles.
Toyota driver is lying most likely. He raced the car and fckd up, that's why Toyota won't pay. One of them is recorded on TH-cam at least
That’s a lot more expensive than a battery replacement on a Tesla Model S. A report of a Model S, well over 8 years old, with battery failure costs £10,250 to fix.
Don’t ever own early teslas. The 12-16 years. Avoid avoid. Tesla still working out the bugs in the early days.
It depends on if you are looking for the most expensive shop in the country!
I saw a video from Finland. The videoblogger visited a shop where they repair EV batteries, and the owner said that the older Tesla batteries are easier to fix, so normally it costs about 1,000 euro.
A faulty battery, means normally that one or more cells are faulty, and in most cases they change a module. In a used battery they have to mount an equal used not faulty module.
It's not possible to mix new and used modules, or cells!
A second hand Tesla m3 battery costs about 4,000-4,500 euro, but it's more complicated to change modules in the newer Tesla batteries, which means the working hours rise, and they are quite expensive in most European countries.
I had a 2003 Tacoma with 270k on it. My 2019 Tacoma, I was at the dealer frequently. I've kept it 2 years and sold it for multiple reasons.
I support EV but honestly this is a quite biased opinion. Driver error destroyed engine doesn't prove Toyota is unreliable under normal operation.
Shouldn't there be a rev limiter or a governor to prevent this type of damage it shouldn't be that easy to blow a motor
@@amg3078 You don’t understand cars if you are say that. Shifting into a lower gear at high rpm, will mechanically make the engine rev beyond its maximum threshold. This being said a normal rev limiter either cuts fuel or air so it cannot rev any higher. If it is mechanically being revved to a high rpm there is nothing anyone can do about it. The only option would be to put a lock out on the gears but that would make driving a manual shit.
Not trying to be rude just giving information. Hope this helps.
@@_vap0r393bingo. Well stated. Also, it's a pretty bold statement to say Toyota is not a reliable brand. There's probablt 40+ years of data that says otherwise... Proud EV owner here, but it's obvious that Toyota is getting a lot of hate from some in the EV community because they are resistant to going EV.
I agree driver's fault but if damage to engine is that expensive shouldn't they just replace entire engine for a reasonable price ?
Absolutely agree!
Great video, I ordered a Model 3 performance white exterior black interior in Arizona, and it qualified for the $7,500 initiative 👍
Black interior in Arizona! Better get that tint.
Free money from other people is great
I nearly choked hearing “Dowgs bouls”… lol
That isn’t even discussing many other benefits of ev. Like home refueling and fuel cost.
I have two Toyotas for over a decade, so far I have had to do nothing but services, tyres that kind of thing.
The thing is, they have to dissasemble everything first. Then they have to repair or replace parts and dispose of old parts. Then retest everything. It's not a straight forward production line assembly. It's not that surprising it's more expensive.
The difference between this and EV battery replacement is the GR could break again at any time. An EV with a new battery is good for many years of service again.
The guy put it in the wrong gear, Toyota offered to pay for $32,000 of the repair.
@@justinr9753 But is could just break again. If he wants performance get a Hyundai IONIQ 5 N and cut the losses.
@@justinr9753Strange that the car didn't have an RPM limiter! I don't really understand.
@@leiflillandt1488 it probably does if you you rev it, but it's 4 wheels pushing the tiny motor that in a car that was going fast enough for 5th gear while being put into 3rd gear.
@@leiflillandt1488 money shift can overev becouse the wheels drive the engine
If you miss shift in a GR that hasn't even been broken in yet, that's a driver problem, not a Toyota problem.
Sounds like it was the guy's first time, and last time, driving a manual. 😂
I’m not a Toyota fan but this problem was caused by someone who made a mistake and wrecked his motor. 3000 rpm over the red line. Not Toyotas responsibility. Doing the wrong thing is not usually covered by warranty. Sad but true.
I wonder if comprehensive insurance covers this?
Commiserations to the owner.
An electric power plant is so much simpler.
this week's tesla competitor hit piece = (Toyota), last week mercedes
Meanwhile 98% of other media outlets are always posting hit piece after hit piece on Tesla. Glad there’s that 2% that aren’t part of the sheep mentality perpetuating the blind sheep hive mind like you.
I learned to drive on a standard shift 1969 Toyota Corona (not Corolla). It had shitty 4-wheel drum brakes that took turns pulling to the right and to the left under medium braking. However it was very reliable and had a great transmission with a solid feel. But let's talk about body roll....
Lucky you mine was a total piece of junk. Had to replace the transmission. The gearshift came out in my hand had to get my gf to put it back in.
how about model 3 wheel bearings
I can only imagine the damage done by that you have to replace the power train. That transmission would need to be rebuilt.
I know several people who own(ed) Corollas. They are happy with them, and the cars lasted a long time with few problems.
Have a feeling the older models are way more reliable than the new generation. Time will tell.
how is that toyota's fault when he money-shifted? Insurance doesn't cover idiocy
You don’t rev gas powered performance cars to redline first 1000 kms .
back in the early noughties I worked with a guy who bought a corolla sport model. he used to flog the living crap out of it, redlining around the carpark even, just redlined it everywhere. needless to say he blew the motor and actually had it replaced under warranty. this same guy, when there was only a few thousand kays on the clock had already worn out his tyres. anyway he had them replaced and proceeded to exit the tyre place and went round a bend on his brand new tyres, slid sideways into a gutter and put the car on its side.
Modern cars today are manufactured with the body dropping on to the chassis and motor assembly. When you go to a shop and they must replace the engine, they cannot simply reverse the manufacturing steps. It takes a lot of time to remove the engine and then work on it with even more specialized parts which may not be readily available in the country. One advantage of EVs is that they have far fewer parts in the drivetrain, and many of them are designed with common parts. For sure casting large pieces means that the body damage will be more difficult, but with robotic assembly, it is perhaps easier and better to just replace the car and then use the old one for repair parts.
I once purchase a new Toyota Solora and then noticed that the instermentation and other interior lighting was not ballenced. I have never seen this problem in any other car. I took it back to the dealer ship and they told me they could not fix it as they are all like that.
I have a Toyota Corolla with 33K on the clock and it’s already rusting out on the roof of the car. Not to mention the car sounds like a battle tank and the dealer keeps saying there is nothing wrong. So I’m guessing when warranty goes off I will finally find out what’s wrong with it? We will see…..
I can’t down shift into first gear unless I go below 20 mph. You could if you jam it into gear. That would destroy the transmission and engine.
I guarantee you he did not brake in the car properly and beat on it from day one because the ECM will show exactly how high the RPMs went!
There was once a time this held more true, back in the 90s when their cars were built and exported from Japan.
This obviously, isn't true anymore.
Theres a YT vid of someone on a track day blowing up the engine in the Yaris GR. They miss shifted, which sent the revs past the red line, blowing up the engine. Hardly Toyotas fault if people cannot gear shift.
If you see the Electric Viking praising Tesla and condemning Toyota, just know it’s all bullshit.
Sam can you do a story on Cybertruck problems just to demonstrate to the fan boys that all cars have problems. There's plenty of horror stories online for both EV and ICE vehicles having major problems and quite a number related to the Cybertruck. BTW, the manufacturer had no obligation in this case to do anything based upon what the driver did.
basically this $42k bill is to replace the engine. there is no way the 3 cylinder 1.6 turbo costs that much to make, this is just profiteering. id be surprised if the genuine cost of the motor with an honest margin tacked onto it was above $5k. fossil companies make their money this way, the "genuine" parts are offered at a comical markup. this is also true for motorcycles.
having said that, this car is cool. it's much different than any EV on sale today thus has no real competition in that sense, it weighs only 1300kg. the glaring weakness is the manual transmission, that makes it slower than it should be against for example a Golf R. but it's a quick and very agile car otherwise. overpriced though, but that's just the "enthusiast" car market for you.
Sounds like they’re wanting to replace parts that weren’t damaged. He should just go to an independent repairer. maybe he can find a wrecked car, one that’s been rear ended and get the engine out of that. I would have thought a modern car like the GR Yaris would not let you select the wrong gear. It’s easy enough to do in an older car.
how the heck would someone mis-shift driving stick??? new with paddle shifters maybe but with stick they can just stomp on the clutch if the engine starts to redline.
For performance driving they often just dump the clutch which if at high power not that bad becouse the power cut leaves enough time to shift but its so much worse if you miss a shift
The owner was abusing vehicle drag racing. Wide open throttle shifting with no delay in clutch engagement. This technique can be very advantageous, doubly so in a turbo car because it allows you to not lose boost between shifts. But if you downshift instead of upshift, or mess up the timing, you will exceed rpm limitations before you can disengage clutch.
It's common actually for manual (stick) shifting, especially if one attempts or is racing. If it's not something they are used to. Even seasoned Formula1 or rally drivers used to make a gearshift error (despite h-shift type gates) which would at times spin the car. However in most cases, the drivetrain or tyres can take it and the engine management protects from the resulting over-revving. Other times it's gearbox loss and like for the GR- Corolla person in discussion, it's a worst case engine totalled.
no car is perfect.
november 2022
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It's comma to deny warrantee claims due to racing
There's no warranty on a race track.
Stupid is, stupid does, but comon, 42 grand for a motor? Seriously?
Why buy any vehicle right now if you have a paid off running vehicle? Interest rates are through the roof, gas is not crazy expensive if you factor in having a paid off vehicle and no payments and full coverage insurance.
Warranty?
remember when the tesla model s came out. ....and they were breaking down
this is a case of operator error why would the warrant cover it thats not toyotas fault dont try and use the experience the experience of a bad driver to forward your cause
Any Toyota is a museum piece.
Most EVs depreciate by 50% after 3 years and the closest charging station to me is 40 miles away and is broken most of the time. Hertz is getting rid of their Tesla 3’s because the maintenance cost was more then traditional cars. I also think with all the bad news you keep seeing with EVs and Tesla we will see a worse bubble pop than the car industry in 2008. So I’m staying far away from them until all that is sorted out.
Still driving my 92 Corolla and people are forever wanting to buy it from me. Great cars.
Perhaps they are just being nice to you.
Is your name Scotty Kilmer? Do you have a famous TH-cam channel?
Bruh, been driving stick since I was driving illegally at 12 years old. Never money shifted lmao. Ridiculous repair bill, but hey, maybe he should learn to drive.
500 Miles? Doesnt this fall under warranty?
No. He money shifted a sports car. Thats user error.
I don't know a lot about mechanics but I would think that there would be a governor on the engine to limit the RPM and some sort of interlock to prevent shifting in a way that would destroy the transmission.
A rev limiter only prevents damage from pressing the accelerator pedal too far however if you force it from 4th gear to 1st gear instead of 3rd gear and let off the clutch for engine braking then you are either going to break the driveline or over speed the engine. On most transmissions if your traveling at highway speeds though you are really going to have to force the shifter to get it into 1st gear so a seasoned driver would automatically know just by that clue that he missed the gate for 3rd gear. You flat palm the shift from 4th to 3rd to help prevent this on most manual shifts.
This sounds like an inexperienced person driving a manual shift car like he stole it voiding the warranty.
Toyota though did jack up the price selling individual components rather than a long block with a turbo already on it.
At this point since it was obviously due to driver negligence he has to chose if he wants to take Toyota's offer of a $42,000 repair that they are going to eat $32,000 of getting him out the door for around $10,000 which makes it sound like they are willing to do the job for what the parts and labor actually costs them.
Best!
I was thinking more in terms of a computer controlled electronic (as opposed to Mechanical) interlock that would take into account the speed, the gears, and the engine RPM to prevent damage from experienced drivers.
@@richardnwilson You mean a new, more costly to own and more costly to maintain type of manual transmission? That is usually handled by ordering a paddle shifted automatic transmission and not a full manual and is not available on the GR Corolla.
The GR Corolla is a limited production Street and Track car that has a somewhat unique to it 3 cylinder 300 hp turbo charged engine and all wheel drive system only similar to the GR Yaris. It is designed for enthusiasts and circuit racing to compete with such as the Honda Civic Type R and Volkswagen Golf Type R.
Experienced drivers would be very unlikely to miss a shift from 4th to 3rd gear to end up forcing it into first. Even on my 2004 GM its almost impossible in normal street driving during the commute to work at the posted speed limits to redline and totally destroy an engine by missing a shift. This one melted a piston and had done such an extreme amount of damage due to the way he was horsing around and basically pedal to the metal hooliganing on a public street. He has a bigger problem and should count his blessings that he didn't get caught and lose his license.
Best!
I find it difficult to join the dots on this one.
I cant see an issue with Toyota's attitude regarding this. The driver admitted making a mistake. End of story. You abuse or misuse any vehicle, and you pay the price.
What? Wow.
He blew it up Dont blame the product .The car didnt shift its own gears.Dodo operator No sympathy
There should still be some kind of rev limiter or some kind of override this is 2024 there should be some Goodwill from the company not to charge the guy 42k
@amg3078 it's a track car. If you aren't a pro at driving manual then don't. Simple as. If you miss shifts don't own a standard. And yes. It will data log the event.
Batteries cost is what’s killing ev’s
Yeah. I'd buy then if batteries were under 5k. And lasted 10 years
buy a motor from a wreck. There should be some by now.
When you talk dollars is it $us or $ au?
There is just something about three pedal driving. Would I buy the GR Corolla? No, but I wouldn't pass up and old 5 or 6 speed convertible at the right price.
Less is more! One pedal driving is the new black
Guess he should have been paying better attention when shifting. He wanted the trill of a manual and the roar of...a toyota engine? Guess he got the trill he was looking for and a hugh exploding roar. Congratulations buddy.
If you don’t know how to shift don’t buy a manual 😂 prob goes to the pee sitting down too 😂. I have an 08 Corolla manual going strong at 220k miles paid $2k for it best car for the money ever
Well we like engines because they dont sound like vacuum cleaners and because speed isnt every thing
Ultimately the issue is a design fault by Toyota.
My MY2O13 Subaru has a warning if downshifting into a gear that will over rev the engine for the road speed. Whilst clutch still depressed you just select a higher gear, warning stops & you can let up the clutch. So the tech exists.
That Toyota didn’t incorporate a warning system like this or a physical lockout on a scenario that would cause catastrophic damage is poor engineering design & on them.
OR...take the stalks away to confuse drivers OR have dime store suspension just to make more money for big boy Elon. Maybe the new versions of the 3 and Y will change my mind, but my previous experience was a ride that induced vertigo and nausea. Right now, for me, it is a decision between a 2025 RAV4 Prime versus a revised Model Y...and the RAV is winning. At least I know what the price will be in advance.
Go get em Sam
BS story. I have owned Toyotas for 20 years and NEVER had one in except for yearly maintenance. And..the company doesn't do dumb things such as having a toy blind spot monitor (or nione at all)
Click bate again Sam this story is totally drivers error and he miss shifted to 3rd instead of 5th so he was driving it hard as this indicates to me a GR corolla owner that he was travelling in excess of 130km/h not exactly cruising speeds, and I get it the gear box is crisp and has pretty short throughs but if this guy knew how to drive the thing he would have clutched in before any damage was done and another thing you failed to mention about the story is a lot of the cost is labour, you know the engine isn't that expensive when performance shops buy complete short blocks to modify for $6500. Also note I've had my GR corolla for about 9 months now with over 11000km great car only thing I'd put it down for would be tyre noise but it's still smother to drive then the Hilux it replaced and the wifes 2012 WRX practical and fun in one package
Looks like dods balls. Laugh, I laughed so hard I nearly, well you know.All true Sam, thanks for the laugh.
That "driver" needs to learn how to drive
EVs have max torque at all RPMs. ICE requires shifting to keep the engine operating in the limited torque band. That's too much work and no longer needed. Just buy EV and put the pedal to the medal, no shifting required.
Head gasket blowing 2 times in one ownership would be a sign to not repair it again, cannot believe you let it go 4 times before replacing the engine. That's madness Sam. Money shifting a brand new car is stupidity and not something I'd expect any car manufacturer would cover under warranty. Stupid people buy performance cars all the time, nothing new. Go Toyota!! Put that guy in his place!!
Yes EV's can be faster these days but damn changing tyres twice a year driving a heavier than needed car, the charging network is still abysmal compared to the fossil fuel network, for peace of mind motoring fossil fuel still rules. Waiting for a charge at a DC charger is also something most people are not accustomed to, it is inconvenient and waste of time. Swappable batteries should have been a staple for EV's but that's a missed opportunity now that will be most difficult to retrofit in production. When I bought my colt in 2009 I planned to keep it till it dies, and so far 15 years later it is still surviving and frugally drinking fossil fuel. Would I expect the same range from a fixed battery EV in 15 years time, or would I have to spend $$$$$ replacing the battery twice? There is not much logic in having all the controls on a touchscreen that can fail and render the whole system into limp mode. But sure, once I see an EV I like the design of and can see longevity in the purchase I will buy one. But for now, I would rather get the GR Corolla.
This story has a lot of holes.. lol
He should have gotten an automatic
Toyota is way behind Honda but they are in second place.
After owning a Toyota truck I switched to American trucks.... Because they could be repaired. With parts you could find at the auto store.... Inexpensively. The Toyota was great and still things started breaking..... And it wasn't all that long either....
I had head gasket go on a Toyota as well, due to a staple they used in the construction of the head gasket that eventually rusted out. . ....
But the biggest problem with Toyotas is you can't use anything but OEM parts..... Nothing else will actually work.....
I love Toyotas but let's face it: performance is electric.
In a straight line. Wet corners are a different matter
Longevity is more important than performance
Dumbest comment I've ever read in TH-cam history.
even this is a owner error a little help from toyota is not gonna break their banks..cut the cost lower help them as your customer win their loyalty even more
but these days, its your fault so pay 42k for it more than the price of a new car and we dont give a flying crap..we at toyota earn billions we want all the money
Any tesla will will overheat in the track while GR carola will keep on going. EVs ate boring, minus the Ionic 5 N which looks fun to drive.
Combustions engines are inherently complicated, full of moving parts. After decades of R&D and billions of dollars they are reasonably reliable now, although like this car, they can snap when pushed hard. However compared to the efficiency and reliability of brushless electric motors they are not even in the same league. When I think of all the money I have poured into fixing and maintaining shit combustion engines over the last 30 years, I won't miss them at all. And before someone mentions batteries being the weakness in EV's, do your research, Chinese LFP batteries will now outlast the car, they are getting a million km's in Chinese taxis.
This is why i think hybrids are nonsense x2. I always buy used, and the only thing sucks is that electric cars are not depreshiating at all. If someone says electric car depreshiates, he is full of shit.
Well yes, it’s silly to buy a new car but certainly even more an ICE, and even more a performance car: buy that used.
Now, if you have to buy a new car, a Toyota Corolla is not a bad choice, but a performance model is. Corolla + Performance = excuse me? 😂
LOL So owner breaks it and now Toyota is unreliable ?? LMAO STOP it.
Tesla out here getting the pedal stuck and they're "reliable" lol.
roger that, I'll take Toyota off the list
Ev cope about toyota- the most reliable and best resale car brand vs tesla one of the worst 😂
One knucklehead destroys a new, performance car by thrashing it before the car was broken in and Toyotas are not reliable anymore. What a crock of bull crap.
So you are basically saying that if your driving skills suck buy a Tesla ?
The manual transmission have lock out 🔒 to prevent that but I guess Toyota does not have that
A old 90’s ford truck had a manual lock out lol 😂 but Toyota. Even mustang have lock out 🔒
Tak! 😂
Sam, buying a car for many is a personal thing. Let people buy what they want & stop paying out on them for the choices they make. EVs are transitioning & will be mainstream in the future. China has to build its brand. It's geopolitical activities are not helping.
Latest Electrak “Tesla’s head of Cybertruck manufacturing has left the company. It’s unclear if he was involved in yet another round of layoffs or if he left on his own accord.” The Elon Musk clearance continues.
@love.ev.s Mercedes have just launched the EV G Wagon which is four motors so it can’t compete with Mercedes and Land Rover at the expensive end of the market, or the established American brands at the basic end of the market. Might be the reason he has left, there is no indication did he walk or was he pushed. Musk is being quite forceful on whom he is keeping but it is scaring the hell out of the market because they are yet to see clearly the objective of the exercise. A lot is riding on the launch of the taxi in August.
Tesla any day 😊
Would feel safer dealing with Toyota than Tesla if something goes wrong with a new car and Toyota has many more runs on the reliability board compared to Tesla and other EVs and most other car brands.
ev's aren't always reliable either.
so who pushing the propaganda.
This is what I have been saying for ages, the main reason to go EV is to get rid of complicated engine and gearbox and all the expensive maintenance, not the difference in price between petrol and electricity. So far I have never seen an EV stranded by the side of the road......
The problem is price. And battery replacement.
remember when the model s had water intrusion problems
remember when the model s had to refitted with protective battery shields
remember when teslas displays were failing
Lieoyta was a reliable brand in 2005 not now it's a basket case as all they do is pay their interest repayments on $230billion PLUS and spend the rest of their money on propaganda. The corolla GR isn't even a fast/Quick car my Holden astra VXR 2015 (first owner only 26,000kms on it) if you know how to drive manual properly is quicker I have run my friend's corolla GR mixing drivers my VXR is quicker. His corolla GR has been in and out of the workshop for the past 1yr or 2years with one problem after another. BTW the Holden astra VXR is not reliable either but its expected i have had minor issues as its not driven much. personal experience i will buy a 2024 Chinese car over any 2024 Japanese, German or USA (USA cars have always been dog sht) car any day.
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I had sn Opel Kadett which I tortured...never had a single issue with it. Sold it for no good reason at all.
Why on earth you would buy a Toyota manual in this day and age is beyond me. My Toyota hybrid has cost me 2 x traction battery replacements in 9 years, with total cost 1,900 dollars. Plus about 10 oil changes, total cost $150. Fuel saved over 9 years: $40,000.
When a Polestar 2 costs the same as a Camry Hybrid, I'll buy a Polestar 2.
When people buy a performance car, they usually prioritize performance, not the fuel economy. If you’re worried about fuel economy, you shouldn’t buy a performance car.
We are all waiting for this mythical car to turn up.I really don't want to wait 2.5 years to get one.The Chinese would make a killing if they had a Camry killer with near immediate delivery.
Haha, is this some joke. Those electric teslas fall apart left and right. Charging in the US is a fucking nightmare. EV battery tech is trash.
Tesla advertiser
Cheers mate
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