Thing is critical headshot multipliers exist and kinda take the cake in the end up way more than the final 20x so it’s nice that non crits is an option though
simple математика: crit: if we have the 200 base dmg, 5x crit chance and 1200% by lethum 5 evolution(that works on crit, and in fact every bullet), we have 200x5x12=12000 no crit evolution 5: 200x20=4000 crit is still meta
it's not called a crit but it works like a crit, it looks like a crit and it even smells like a crit best part is it takes zero mod slot's/capacity and is stronger than regular crits
@@PepenMan problem with Overwhelming Attrition (the evolution that allows you to get 3 stacks of 400% buff on hit that is neither critical nor applies status) is the fact that the buff is additive while Devouring Attrition (the one that gives 50% chance of 2000% damage on hit that is not critical) is mutiplicative for base damage.
@@awtismmaxxing He means having to invest the ludicrous amount of time needed to increase a faction’s reputation to unlock the ability to get said weapon. Then I’m sure there’s some kind of grind involved, which sucks.
@@90snetworkproductions79 yes its actually really bad grind. You have to first level up the faction to 1 which isn't hard then you can get the weapon build it and do some challenges, then you need to level in the faction more which means daily standing limits and bad RNG for required parts to make the other 2 items and get to syndicate level 5. Then and only then can you actually max out the strength of this weapon. So at the minimum for anyone underneath MR20 is about 8 days of grinding at max standing and hope to RNG gods you get good enough RNG because you also need to find the little voidplumes which are supposedly guaranteed. That does not include this updates horrible system/server problems early on. Essentially Fortuna 2.0 with even worse syndicate leveling also including new stupid difficulty spikes. Im MR 26 and this crap gets ridiculous sometimes. Like random spikes in sending 3 Blitz Eximi who have the damage output to one tap Inaros with their explosives. I also personally think that the Laetum specifically needs a nerf because it is easily the strongest weapon in the game at the moment.
Ok, this is the 2nd video I was recommended from you in 2 days, the editing is nice but the dumb and fun builds are even better and I'm here for that because honestly, that's probably the main thing that keeps bringing me back to Warframe and the things you've made are way outside the box, I've gotta watch more
In every Mr. Zita Wup video, negative riven is not "negative" cuz it's so interesting. But today, negative one is NOT "negative" cuz it's useful. Oh, man.
@@XxDeathxX509 They doubled trolled us actually, with the 60 Eyes Effervo boss, because he forces red crits with one of his attacks even if you are using a negative crit build. it's a shame most people don't play that boss cuz it's hidden.
Go high crit build with data's whisper..force procs the 2000% plus doubles it ...weird but it works..I use it on demolists ...also seems to work with phemnor
Turns out you can actually get higher dps with one of the other options, because you only need a few shots that aren’t crit or status in order to get max damage stacks, and you can keep it up by landing another non crit/status shot every couple seconds. Then you can actually go for crit and status chance because you only need the rare hit to be non-crit/status, and that damage multiplier stacks with critical damage
As soon as I saw such a buff on these guns, I immediately realized that mr minus crete would cost space money and that ZITA would definitely release a video on this topic.
the third attrition upgrade is better then the non crit one , it also applies to all damage not a stand alone non crit or crit or status it also allows me to freely build my laetum which allows me to make it is strong as possible with a 5.o crit multiplier and a 64 precent crit chance and still be able to have my 400 precent damage boost stack by 3, if you compare both upgrades the third attrition mod on top of your base damage actuaLLY does more damage then the 2000 precent upgrade you currently have on
Yeah I use the 400% currently. It way outperforms the 2000%, while also being able to build crit is 65%. And even without a status build, this thing racks up status very quickly(if it doesn't kill the enemy first).
dude i spent 360k kuva for my phenmor riven i got on my own, funny thing is that i found out about the phenmor at the start of the game and KNEW i had to have it, luckily enough i got a riven for it lmao, now i can get 0.02% crit chance with the riven of -49% crit chance + the incarnon evolution of -10% crit chance, pretty sick
Would the primed heat mod make this even better instead of scorch or do you need the 60 / 60? Also if you happen to have a riven with cold, what would you swap frostbite for ?
I had a Miter riven that does negative crit so much it created a so called "integer overflow" in programming terms that every shot is red crit. it kills absolutely everything level 150 in one shot. with its innate punch through and bounces off walls, it's hilariously deadly.
Me being so lucky to find a Phenmor riven randomly and rerolling it 30 times for a negative crit multishot and %dmg god roll LMAOOOO my rich clan leader estimated the value to 1k plat or smth
I played the angel of zariman quest and completed it easily and thought "oh this seems cool" so I tried a cascade bounty and couldn't kill the thrax because my amp isn't good. I can't be bothered to grind anything to get a better one, so looks like I'm not play again. :^)
i still dont understand why do they even have other options its like oh you want a 2000% crit with a 50% chance. or that same thing but 1200. or ammo efficiency ol
how do you feel that you did this on the laetum instead of the phenmor when even with this riven the third option on the laetum still is higher dps and raw damage
in fact even with a devouring attrition build you're probably not even getting the most dps out of that slot i mean like obviously if you were doing a riven for it -crit would be the best for dps but it would prevent you from doing the better option and it would still need its upsides to be good too (yours is because +grineer bane but still applies generally)
The second option multiples after everything else is done calculating, it's a 21 times increase in damage, the third option is just +1400% base damage, so no, it isn't in fact, "higher dps". The math checks out, if you don't believe me you can go see TheKengineer's video on this one. link: th-cam.com/video/A_lcDFcf47s/w-d-xo.html
Question. I've done all the quests, I've done all the star chart, I've done my first Kuva Lich. What's the point of playing now other than going for bigger numbers?
Well I haven't really been active in Warframe for a long time now, but for me I enjoyed collecting and trying out the new Warframes and Weapons and testing out random builds. It was even fun just to max stuff out and get my Mastery Rank up. But if you're the type of person who just wants to use the strongest Frame and strongest weapons to just giga smash through all the content then there's not much to do once you finish it. There's a common quote "Fashion Frame is endgame," and that's kinda what it is... looking cool and minmaxing your builds.
Wait what is that debouring attrittion? I havent played in a while now it seems to be a buff to the noncrit weapons or just one im not understanding that part if someone can explain to me please
We did it boys. Crits are no longer meta.
Thing is critical headshot multipliers exist and kinda take the cake in the end up way more than the final 20x so it’s nice that non crits is an option though
@@RossKyle95 so? Are you implying people in Warframe actually aim lol?
@@schmeat7609 😂 nah just pointing it out that’s all
simple математика:
crit: if we have the 200 base dmg, 5x crit chance and 1200% by lethum 5 evolution(that works on crit, and in fact every bullet), we have 200x5x12=12000
no crit evolution 5: 200x20=4000
crit is still meta
@@PepenMan The 1200% is additive unlike the 2000% bonus on non crit. No comparison at all.
Never did we ever think in WF that a non-criting is good, it still feels so off but sheer dmg these weapons put out are something lmao.
Monkey brain of seeing red is betrayed
TheKenginner did the math and it averages out to ~10-11x damage multiplier applied after all other buffs
it's not called a crit but it works like a crit, it looks like a crit and it even smells like a crit
best part is it takes zero mod slot's/capacity and is stronger than regular crits
Tell me you’ve never used the Phantasma without telling me you’ve never used the Phantasma.
@@PepenMan problem with Overwhelming Attrition (the evolution that allows you to get 3 stacks of 400% buff on hit that is neither critical nor applies status) is the fact that the buff is additive while Devouring Attrition (the one that gives 50% chance of 2000% damage on hit that is not critical) is mutiplicative for base damage.
300k Kuva
"The hardest choices require the strongest wills"
What did it cost?
Everything :
try 600,000 on a stug riven (185 rolls) or 1,200,000+ on a plague kripath riven (392 rolls)
@@banana_loaf dont gotta make it about yourself.
@@banana_loaf or 20,000,000 ...
@@h14G4. but we all know which crackhead out there actually dared to go for 20 million
Man If only I didn't have to play warframe to get this gun.
what
Kek
Same
@@awtismmaxxing He means having to invest the ludicrous amount of time needed to increase a faction’s reputation to unlock the ability to get said weapon. Then I’m sure there’s some kind of grind involved, which sucks.
@@90snetworkproductions79 yes its actually really bad grind. You have to first level up the faction to 1 which isn't hard then you can get the weapon build it and do some challenges, then you need to level in the faction more which means daily standing limits and bad RNG for required parts to make the other 2 items and get to syndicate level 5. Then and only then can you actually max out the strength of this weapon. So at the minimum for anyone underneath MR20 is about 8 days of grinding at max standing and hope to RNG gods you get good enough RNG because you also need to find the little voidplumes which are supposedly guaranteed.
That does not include this updates horrible system/server problems early on. Essentially Fortuna 2.0 with even worse syndicate leveling also including new stupid difficulty spikes.
Im MR 26 and this crap gets ridiculous sometimes. Like random spikes in sending 3 Blitz Eximi who have the damage output to one tap Inaros with their explosives.
I also personally think that the Laetum specifically needs a nerf because it is easily the strongest weapon in the game at the moment.
The firsts weapons where you want a Riven with negative critical. : ]
Ok, this is the 2nd video I was recommended from you in 2 days, the editing is nice but the dumb and fun builds are even better and I'm here for that because honestly, that's probably the main thing that keeps bringing me back to Warframe and the things you've made are way outside the box, I've gotta watch more
Man this is just carnage. Hope we get more weapons like this where we want weird stats. Great vid oh and the MIGHTY SEER is even stronger
Lotus : Change a plan.. stop killing them, i said STOP!!!
I think the best part is that the partial crit build is not only viable, it's arguably better.
In every Mr. Zita Wup video, negative riven is not "negative" cuz it's so interesting.
But today, negative one is NOT "negative" cuz it's useful. Oh, man.
after he put on the riven, if he used the plus status minus crit evolution, he would have negative crit chance if it calculated that
just he can't build it right ;DDDD
Bro, I thought I was the only one that crazy. Thanks God I'm not the only one who wants - crit chance!!!
when onkko said "energy spike" i felt that
Can't believe that they made ppl go for negative crit
At this point DE is just trolling us.
Ik im super late but they are lmao
@@XxDeathxX509 They doubled trolled us actually, with the 60 Eyes Effervo boss, because he forces red crits with one of his attacks even if you are using a negative crit build. it's a shame most people don't play that boss cuz it's hidden.
this weapon is painful to farm, im dead 💀 when I saw how much Voidplume Pinion i need to get the last evolution
The other day I unveiled a laetum riven with +status chance, +multishot and -crit chance but my laetum doesn't have it's 5th evolution yet xd
for that 9.5% crit chance it still crits more than most weapons that have way higher crit chance
Cavalero is my favourite Holdfast member, he's bold , he's brash, he's bout to kick some assssh and he's also HEAVY WEAPONS MAN
And he dibs our stuff.
Coming back to this game after so long an seeing this just makes me feel like I'm not playing the same game as everyone else
same. it's been few years and WF feels like a new game to me.
that perk on the shotgun is insane it procs the 50% for EVERY PELLET
when i finished the zariman quest i was like “thats it???”
Go high crit build with data's whisper..force procs the 2000% plus doubles it ...weird but it works..I use it on demolists ...also seems to work with phemnor
Turns out you can actually get higher dps with one of the other options, because you only need a few shots that aren’t crit or status in order to get max damage stacks, and you can keep it up by landing another non crit/status shot every couple seconds. Then you can actually go for crit and status chance because you only need the rare hit to be non-crit/status, and that damage multiplier stacks with critical damage
As soon as I saw such a buff on these guns, I immediately realized that mr minus crete would cost space money and that ZITA would definitely release a video on this topic.
the third attrition upgrade is better then the non crit one , it also applies to all damage not a stand alone non crit or crit or status it also allows me to freely build my laetum which allows me to make it is strong as possible with a 5.o crit multiplier and a 64 precent crit chance and still be able to have my 400 precent damage boost stack by 3, if you compare both upgrades the third attrition mod on top of your base damage actuaLLY does more damage then the 2000 precent upgrade you currently have on
Plus headshot crit multi bonus
Yeah I use the 400% currently. It way outperforms the 2000%, while also being able to build crit is 65%. And even without a status build, this thing racks up status very quickly(if it doesn't kill the enemy first).
dude i spent 360k kuva for my phenmor riven i got on my own, funny thing is that i found out about the phenmor at the start of the game and KNEW i had to have it, luckily enough i got a riven for it lmao, now i can get 0.02% crit chance with the riven of -49% crit chance + the incarnon evolution of -10% crit chance, pretty sick
Man I love your channel, hope you keep on making these amazing meme guns
*meanwhile the music is bopping aka dancing while your weapon farming screams yeet*
I’m glad the new weapons are actually good and not just garbage mastery fodder and can be used for other endgame content
you mean long endurance runs because Warframe has no endgame lol
@@theunhingedgamer3762 it has endgame sp eidolon hunts sp kuva zariman bounties ect
@@dontassociate oh god sp eidolon exists? sounds like cancer
Hespar has entered the chat😢
This is essentially gives it 50% CC, 20x CD. Objectively stronger than even 100% CC with normal crit damage.
the intro with xqc killed me
Oh right. why the hell did I put crit chance mod in this one. completely forgot about 2000% damage.
This is why I love warframe it is the only game where it lets you be over powered
woah that incarnon weapon charge meter is so polarizing when i see it. it looks so old after the 3rd incarnon crosshair change on dante unbound
2019-2021: Red Number Meta - 2022: White Number Meta
This video is filled with a lot of NEGATIVITY
My incarnon mode barely lasts lol? Is it cuz i got too much fire rate? Or am i missing smth?
There it is. The thing that we all have been waiting for.
Did you try your riven along with the evolution that brings the base crust down to 10%
Would the primed heat mod make this even better instead of scorch or do you need the 60 / 60? Also if you happen to have a riven with cold, what would you swap frostbite for ?
My favorite part about this gun is that it’s incarnom form is a pair of birds
Ha! Laetum alt-fire go BRRRRRR!
Jeez, it's like you are slicing Melted Vobi butter!
I had a Miter riven that does negative crit so much it created a so called "integer overflow" in programming terms that every shot is red crit. it kills absolutely everything level 150 in one shot. with its innate punch through and bounces off walls, it's hilariously deadly.
cap
Ah yes. The point-and-click adventure build.
bro your videos are fricking awesome,, it make me want to play warframe again
Got a multishot, heat, reload speed and negative crit chance riven for the felarx, super strong
Great video as always, Mr. Wup, but I'd be interested in the name of that skin at 0:57 and where I can get it.
De Nas Pistol skin from Baro Ki'Teer. Came out in March I believe. Strangely enough there's no mention of it on the wiki.
I saw another youtuber recommending crit stats on the Laetum like a mong
Good to see you still know how to read
Other perk with a Crit build is better dps wise :) (or it was on release idk if they tweaked anything)
@@jyynn nah
2:46 yes or course, NOW you are telling that, don't you? I hope they nerf a lot the laetum to see if you still make fun of it like this... Pff
2:47 As all things should be.
Wth this is one of the best things I have witnessed
A finaly REAL tridolon wepon :)) geez OMGGGGG
yeah, Dat Laetum, man. it's so gooood! but what about the other one that is damaging but stacks? I would love a better side by side.
2:06 Holy shit! I need this weapon :P
for a second I thought the music was Death Row from Payday and now I wish it was
I being lucky, 3 rivens of that badboy😌
Now all it takes to ruin the fun is your friendly neighborhood Harrow.
Saving this vid to (eventually) have an extremely op weapon from an op TH-camr
i bet he had the steel path modifier off when he was in simulachrome
Me : dam strong gun
Also Me : Swaps back to Kuva Nukor
Me being so lucky to find a Phenmor riven randomly and rerolling it 30 times for a negative crit multishot and %dmg god roll LMAOOOO my rich clan leader estimated the value to 1k plat or smth
i wouldnt wanna go full non crit with laetum, crit ver is still quite fine
Think of that damage on the weapon, but add mesa's shooting galery and chroma's Vex armor fury buff.
I lol'd :D
Have to get my riven on -cc aswell ^^, damn time to farm ku(r)va!
I played the angel of zariman quest and completed it easily and thought "oh this seems cool" so I tried a cascade bounty and couldn't kill the thrax because my amp isn't good. I can't be bothered to grind anything to get a better one, so looks like I'm not play again. :^)
Well, it's not like grinding for an amp is hard. You can always get carried by randoms
Replacing mote with a 1-1-1 amp is extremely easy, OP, and not really worth leaving over.
Warframes literaly a calamity
I havent played warframe since that one quest "rap tap tap" ... id love to play this weapon but id have so much catching up to do
When a pistol is also a machine gun and sniper rifle
When you can carry acceltra as secondary
i still dont understand why do they even have other options its like oh you want a 2000% crit with a 50% chance. or that same thing but 1200. or ammo efficiency ol
crit laetum is back on the menu boys 😈
how do you feel that you did this on the laetum instead of the phenmor when even with this riven the third option on the laetum still is higher dps and raw damage
like srsly you shouldve stayed on the dual crit or +status +firerate u poor thing
in fact even with a devouring attrition build you're probably not even getting the most dps out of that slot i mean like obviously if you were doing a riven for it -crit would be the best for dps but it would prevent you from doing the better option and it would still need its upsides to be good too (yours is because +grineer bane but still applies generally)
He's a meme channel sum mf put years of effort into memes plus he's having fun that's the most important
@@SneakybeakyScrub yea the dual crit deals high damage too but i chose negative crit for making video content :)
The second option multiples after everything else is done calculating, it's a 21 times increase in damage, the third option is just +1400% base damage, so no, it isn't in fact, "higher dps".
The math checks out, if you don't believe me you can go see TheKengineer's video on this one.
link: th-cam.com/video/A_lcDFcf47s/w-d-xo.html
Now I am looking forward to the phenmor video
Had a guy trying to sell me that same crit chance and damage laetum riv for like 1k, called the dude insane.
That's it, im starting this game again
I Got a heart attack in my kidneys from laughter XD
Can I please know what you used to pull enemies like that? I'm kinda new to the game
Void snare, a vazarin focus ability
Yes but crit or non crit for laetum? Cuz I use non crit on phenmor and crit on laetum
how long did it take to do this
BRUTALITYYYYYY RIVEN
MY RIVEN HAVE +MULTI + DAMAGE +HEAT -Cc opppppppp steel
No joke my brother just did this exact same thing but got the crit chance to .5
Question.
I've done all the quests, I've done all the star chart, I've done my first Kuva Lich.
What's the point of playing now other than going for bigger numbers?
Well I haven't really been active in Warframe for a long time now, but for me I enjoyed collecting and trying out the new Warframes and Weapons and testing out random builds. It was even fun just to max stuff out and get my Mastery Rank up. But if you're the type of person who just wants to use the strongest Frame and strongest weapons to just giga smash through all the content then there's not much to do once you finish it. There's a common quote "Fashion Frame is endgame," and that's kinda what it is... looking cool and minmaxing your builds.
@@KingJerbear Thanks for the reply! I'm not really into that, personally, but it was a real fun experience so I'm not upset.
Steel path?
great, now you made me want to get this thing
Hahahahaha the amber joke at the end WUP!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
i need to get the Laetum and that negative crit riven mod i might get alot more negative crit when i do it
Me: this weapon is amazing
DE: it is time to nerf weapon
*Aaaaaaaah*
Nerfed critical chance
@@noitibaku8808 to 90% base
So you have 45% chance to crit without it being yellow?
Now I see why crit Laetum is better
Wait what is that debouring attrittion? I havent played in a while now it seems to be a buff to the noncrit weapons or just one im not understanding that part if someone can explain to me please
That Cavalero bit was😂
If only we can get it down to 0.1%
After video is done: it’s rerolling time!
I have 140 rolls on my phenmor riven and legitimately didn't get -crit chance ONCE
Warframe is a balance game. Says no one EVER!
Inaros with eclipse MY BOY!
I have a -59% crit riven but could only get down to 8.8% crit. Not sure why.
Wtf your renders are super smooth damn can you tell me them
Bro trust me , try it with xata's whyspper , you literally one shot the demolyst , and deal millions ans millions of damage
Is this nerfed or still going good?
What mod did u put in ur exilus slot?
Steady Hands