2016 GMC Sierra Denali HD vs 2002 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD Mashup Review - Old vs New Ep.1

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  • @dougjohnsonbushcraftandbjj5561
    @dougjohnsonbushcraftandbjj5561 7 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    I'll keep my 2003. Reminds me of a better world.

    • @majesticow8508
      @majesticow8508 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes

    • @Jackthedog928
      @Jackthedog928 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My 02 6.0 gasser makes me so dang happy.

  • @1Randomsailor
    @1Randomsailor 8 ปีที่แล้ว +607

    Let's hear it for the older trucks!

    • @joshs6405
      @joshs6405 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      👍

    • @flight2k5
      @flight2k5 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +tom dickey you're one of them huh?

    • @350toocute
      @350toocute 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      +tom dickey I`m with you..ican`t stand the newer trucks.There just big and bulky for nothing..I have an 2001 Ls Chevy Blazer..It`s body style blows aaway any newer truck body style..

    • @1Randomsailor
      @1Randomsailor 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      +350toocute Agreed! Old trucks rule!

    • @flight2k5
      @flight2k5 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      350toocute HAHHAAh whatever truck someone has is always the last of the real trucks Funny how 2001 trucks are now being touted as real trucks. In 16 years the 2016 models will be the last of the real truce. You guys are funny.

  • @ordinaryJeff
    @ordinaryJeff 8 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    And here I am still pondering 'upgrading' to the "old" truck.

    • @Celtics20
      @Celtics20 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      ordinaryJeff that’s diesel trucks for you 💰 💰 💰

  • @House-pg5lb
    @House-pg5lb 8 ปีที่แล้ว +255

    Hmmmm...let's see...I paid $7,200 cash for my 02 Duramax, which had a straight pipe, duramaxtuner controller, and enough power to pull down my house. Not to mention it had flawless interior and exterior. I added a $200 touch screen stereo with navigation, and some cheap Kicker speakers. For the $60,000 difference in price, I'm ok with not having heated and cooled leather seats.

    • @rockytopin7949
      @rockytopin7949 7 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      $7200 is an absolute steal on that truck. Around here they are all $11k +

    • @MrHawkhead11
      @MrHawkhead11 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      6011 House r

    • @axtra92
      @axtra92 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who cares if you have straight pipe?

    • @axtra92
      @axtra92 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Island Mike are you really this stupid?

    • @KevinWilliams19723
      @KevinWilliams19723 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can have heated/cooled seats with a $75 kit, so you can have those too for cheap.

  • @chevyon37s
    @chevyon37s 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Makes me miss my dad's '01 duramax. He had 356,000mi on it when he traded for a new one in 2016. Constantly got 17mpg around town unloaded, and 21 on the highway and often towed at or above max GVWR.

  • @nightfury6836
    @nightfury6836 8 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Love that 02 Silverado guys!!! That's when trucks were simply trucks. NOT overpriced rolling luxury homes with bells & whistles we did't need or want...

    • @blackchevy4756
      @blackchevy4756 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      A brand new truck back in 2002 was less than 30k, and that was a very reasonable price for everybody.

    • @ucsasinkings8296
      @ucsasinkings8296 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@blackchevy4756 no it wasn't why do people always say that 😂 my 2002 was 78k I've still got the dealer receipt my 02 duramax cost 38k because it had been bought once and brought back with 2000 miles

    • @mynikki19811
      @mynikki19811 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A truck you can go to work in. Work all day getting dirty and climb in and drive home. If you buy $60,000+ truck you are going to not want to get it dirty. I miss work trucks.

    • @brownbarbie9572
      @brownbarbie9572 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Back in 2003, my uncle bought his 2003 GMC sierra 3500hd slt crew cab 4x4 with lb7 duramax for like $36000. In 2020, a new 2020 gmc sierra slt 3500hd diesel will cost you $60,000.

    • @MrPAULONEAL
      @MrPAULONEAL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ucsasinkings8296 $38,000 in 2002 is equivalent to $55,949.56 today.

  • @danielfred16
    @danielfred16 8 ปีที่แล้ว +221

    funny how mr. truck reacted on riding on Andres truck. "im a cowboy who wears hats and boots but hate getting dirty"

    • @timothyleger4385
      @timothyleger4385 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      danielfred16 !
      Someone ought to tell MR. TRUCK that hats, vests, and boots does not make you a cowboy !!
      Ole Conway Twitty song "DON'T CALL HIM A COWBOY TILL YOU SEE HIM RIDE !" 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😁😉👍✌

    • @mega-hb4re
      @mega-hb4re 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah he's a pus..

    • @hsanc72598
      @hsanc72598 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He ain't no damn country boy for sure.

    • @oillease1881
      @oillease1881 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Here in west Texas the cowboys normally wear tuxeodo's, top hats, white gloves and spats. Never a piece of cowshit or dust anywhere to be found on them. When they get in at night, they don their silk pj's and robes.....sit down to a "dinner" of foi de gras and the finest champagne. Their horses float off the ground since they can't tolerate dirt either. This guy is a piece of work.

    • @juanparra3122
      @juanparra3122 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      danielfred16 hahahahhahaha

  • @StreetSpeed717
    @StreetSpeed717 8 ปีที่แล้ว +399

    Exactly why I bought an 05

    • @thethrebestnoobs
      @thethrebestnoobs 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      love you're videos

    • @jared6361
      @jared6361 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Your videos are awesome!!

    • @mitchhouge8427
      @mitchhouge8427 8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      didnt expect to see you here

    • @tomfanshawe6947
      @tomfanshawe6947 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was thinking about your truck when I saw this.

    • @chuche721
      @chuche721 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dude your truck is better than the GMC

  • @mertz313
    @mertz313 8 ปีที่แล้ว +448

    That 2002 Silverado will probably outlast that 2016 though

    • @jessehart2411
      @jessehart2411 8 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      The engine isn't the same completely and older trucks were made better

    • @mertz313
      @mertz313 8 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Jesse Hart By older he means simpler. For instance, my uncle owns an old Silverado..That thing has a 4speed and it's very simplistic with a lot of the components made out of metal. As for my dad's newer Sierra, that thing is complicated af and plastic is everywhere lol. It's the build quality, son.

    • @ps3dethman1
      @ps3dethman1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Lb7’s (01-04) duramax’s had a huge issues with injectors failing and melting pistons.

    • @Bobbyjwmwb
      @Bobbyjwmwb 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Probably not

    • @hogroamer260
      @hogroamer260 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Sorry, like humans, life expectancy keeps going up.

  • @MusicLover-ti6zo
    @MusicLover-ti6zo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    That generation GM trucks are very reliable I still see many on the road today.

    • @connerbutler1077
      @connerbutler1077 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have a gas 4.3 v6 2002 Sierra with 215,000 miles stock engine and tranny definitely buying a duramax and my next truck.

    • @tltsw
      @tltsw 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Music Lover ummm actually they are very expensive to one do to engine design. The LLY was not reliable after about 140k do to injector and cp3 pressure pump problems.

    • @hunterbasselite6826
      @hunterbasselite6826 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      tlt40s&w 70 if you have a diesel , you egr delete and Dpf delete and efi live tune , its just what you do , and the LLY and LBZ and LB7 are all GREAT engines , without efi live tunes they will still last 250k without anything done , my LLY had a bully dog PG and a efi live tune , and I boughtbit at 230k miles and it has 360k miles now , runs like a charm still

    • @csmith6237
      @csmith6237 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Don't buy a diesel unless you have plenty of extra cash, just buy a vortec 6.0

    • @robertintexas
      @robertintexas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I've got the 6.0 gasoline version of that 2002. Mine is even the same color. I have the double cab 8' bed. It has 231,000 miles on it. Original engine and tranny. Best truck I've ever owned.

  • @ADVANCEDTECHTIPS
    @ADVANCEDTECHTIPS 8 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    What's worse:
    - lower emissions but higher fuel usage (GMC Sierra) or
    - higher emissions and lower fuel usage (2002 Chevy)
    What if they removed the emissions junk, and instead focused on improving fuel economy, meaning that the lower amount of fuel used will result in less pollution and therefor removing the need for the emissions equipment?

    • @takeadayofff
      @takeadayofff 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      1950s are long gone.

    • @antonioederlopezlopez7341
      @antonioederlopezlopez7341 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@takeadayofff sadly

    • @javaman2883
      @javaman2883 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      But increasing fuel economy means less taxes for the state, less profit for the companies...we'll push that off to a later year.

    • @Nostradamus_Order33
      @Nostradamus_Order33 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bodgy Aussie
      You can’t get something for nothing.

    • @2500hdx
      @2500hdx ปีที่แล้ว

      Amazing if people just used there God given brains

  • @MrJwh3000
    @MrJwh3000 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This was the best test of them all! I too own a 02 DMAX with 300,000 miles on it and it still pulls like a brand new truck! Thanks guys!

    • @rahulrane1658
      @rahulrane1658 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You probably do not have any of the emissions related problems. Do you use the regular diesel at pump or use some additives as well

    • @MrJwh3000
      @MrJwh3000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rahulrane1658 I have no government's emission regulated crap and my truck is straight piped from the factory. It's stock. I only add fuel additives to help the injectors stay clean. As beautiful as these new trucks are these days it's hard not buying one. Those prices keep me away.

  • @dieselmutt8865
    @dieselmutt8865 8 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    You are not "towing" the same weight but you are driving the same amount of weight down the road given both vehicles and the same trailer are being used in the test. The "gross combination weight" is the same.

  • @jfdb59
    @jfdb59 7 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    10 years from now that LB7 will be towing that LML to the shop (unless he deletes it).

    • @brianiannarelli1168
      @brianiannarelli1168 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      you are definitely right about that

    • @AsianNIGMA
      @AsianNIGMA 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      jfdb59 typical guy who just wants a excuse to have a stupidly loud truck and roll coal

    • @KineticTaco
      @KineticTaco 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Logan Graham or a stupidly reliable truck for 1/4 of the price 🤺

  • @eric8354
    @eric8354 8 ปีที่แล้ว +357

    1999-2006 gmc and chevy trucks look so much better than the new ones

    • @joshs6405
      @joshs6405 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep.

    • @connerbutler1077
      @connerbutler1077 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      What about early 2007?

    • @joshs6405
      @joshs6405 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Dodge 318 Cummins They are great too.

    • @YungJackie22
      @YungJackie22 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah for sure

    • @kain452005
      @kain452005 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed!

  • @bradenreed1152
    @bradenreed1152 8 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    atta boy Andre! Real men keep the old trucks running! Hope to see more with that truck soon!

  • @captkirk6145
    @captkirk6145 8 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    I love the body style of the 2002

    • @MattMohsOutdoors
      @MattMohsOutdoors 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If like them if they didn't rust to shit

    • @leviemerick6736
      @leviemerick6736 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +MN IceFisherman I feel you. My dad has one and just this summer he spent a lot of money on putting in new rocker panels since the old ones rusted to shit, had the frame under coated after scaling off the rust and had the rocker as well as the door panels coated with that egg shell type stuff. Not sure what it's called. He's refusing to spend $60-$70K on a new truck.

    • @MattMohsOutdoors
      @MattMohsOutdoors 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Levi Emerick yeah I posted a video on my channel of are red Silverado you should watch it... It's sad

    • @andrewcastillo9558
      @andrewcastillo9558 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Matthew Mohs I got a 01 that's spotless with 139,000 miles lol.

    • @brownbarbie9572
      @brownbarbie9572 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup obs is better than the 2015 nbs.

  • @RyanWithAviators
    @RyanWithAviators 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am quite happy that they are doing old vs. new. This is what I like to see.

  • @larryspiller15
    @larryspiller15 8 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    I think it's more of the emissions thing holding the mileage back

    • @usMarinecuv902
      @usMarinecuv902 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Exactly

    • @dragonbutt
      @dragonbutt 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +larry Spiller It blows quite alot of minds when you tell people that emissions =/= mileage

    • @StyleGT
      @StyleGT 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +larry Spiller but the LML are better tuned!!!! give a chance and put efi live on that lb7

    • @robertpolkamp
      @robertpolkamp 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      exactly, diesel (semi)trucks were getting 8 mpg and the oil lobby harassed the EPA to choke the diesel with emissions under the guise of "saving the environment" needless to say we all lost fuel economy. I'm back to 5.5 loaded in the big truck. It's ALWAYS about the money.

    • @dragonbutt
      @dragonbutt 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Robert Polkamp
      Of course, those 8mpg days were back when people sort of accepted cabovers as being the most aerodynamic machines for the job (to the point that nasa even tested with it a bit), Those really, really long semi tractors are to blame too :P

  • @georgiafan6618
    @georgiafan6618 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had the exact same truck, an '02 Chevy Duramax - extra cab long bed. It was an early Duramax with 300hp and 500 ft. lbs of torque which was enormous back then. It was very reliable and comfortable. I constantly checked my side view mirrors because with the addition of a weight distributing hitch, I barely felt the trailer behind me. I added a tuner (chip) and picked up some more power and I still managed 18 mpg HWY with a 6" lift. Diesel is the way to go and the Duramax has a record of reliable service. Great video!

  • @Nordic_Mechanic
    @Nordic_Mechanic 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    better fuel mileage towing MORE weight . This why I keep my old 05 . Just a few things to fix it and it'll be as good as new, or better

    • @antonioederlopezlopez7341
      @antonioederlopezlopez7341 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That should be the idea of all cars, but we are not in the 60's sadly.

  • @1S1KC0DM4N
    @1S1KC0DM4N 8 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I'd honestly rather have the '02. Looks a lot better.

  • @MrMister1227
    @MrMister1227 8 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    Id rather get the 2002, be dept free=)

    • @jorgechavez9667
      @jorgechavez9667 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      lmao true that... 60k+ for extra gadgets.. I'll pass.

    • @closeddown3049
      @closeddown3049 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      MrMister1227 gico save 15 percent or more on your car insurance

    • @oliverdelgado6952
      @oliverdelgado6952 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes.. I'll take that 02 with no prob I'll pass on the newer bling bling truck.. I use my trucks for work

    • @deepsquat600
      @deepsquat600 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      yep spend $200 on a nice stereo $300 on speakers $300 on the sound insulation and have $1,000 worth of interior work done to fix the leather seats and put in new carpet boom it's pretty good shape and think of how much gasoline you could buy with the $45,000 you save

    • @txkingg
      @txkingg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dept? Department of free?

  • @copyrightclaim3541
    @copyrightclaim3541 8 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Older one looks better, Looks more fierce (with the raised hood.), Chrome isn't everywhere on it and the front bumper isn't touching the ground.
    Sure for capabilities of the new one has the old one beat but as for looks the old one takes the cake.

    • @dennistv598
      @dennistv598 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Copyright Claim it maybe about the looks but it’s about what it can do buddy

    • @connorpusey5912
      @connorpusey5912 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Since when was chrome a bad thing? Classic cars are caked with it and that’s one of the things people love about them. Chrome is beautiful.

  • @bh8066
    @bh8066 7 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    That guy sounds like a dbag for not wanting to ride in a older "not new" truck. I would take that older one because that new one looks too flashy.

    • @georgeperkins4171
      @georgeperkins4171 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @olds767 probably cause the host has to be in the front and hes too fat to sit in the back seat. Not trolling, just he couldnt be comfortable.

  • @tylerboyer7824
    @tylerboyer7824 8 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    For a old truck it hauls some ass in towing and 0-60

  • @jeepcollector91
    @jeepcollector91 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Now think of the difference between the two in repair/maintenance cost after warranty runs out.

    • @jaaroakl2595
      @jaaroakl2595 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Woods Clan nice but jeep wood is right the more tech in a truck the more pofs there are

  • @leviemerick6736
    @leviemerick6736 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 2002 duramax trucks have always been my favorites. My dad has a 3500HD that has just over 106,000 miles so it has a while to go. Hasn't done any major work to it engine wise but over the summer we had to put some money into it. We cut out and replaced the old rocker panels since they rusted out and put new and stronger ones in. Then scaled 46 pounds of rust off of the frame and had it undercoated. Then had that eggshell type covering on the rocker and door panels. I don't know what that covering is called but it reminds me of it for some reason. I think some know what I'm talking about. My dad refuses to spend $60-$70K on a new truck and I don't blame him.

  • @jamesjarmon7383
    @jamesjarmon7383 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    OK guys, this is all you need to know. I run 13k miles a month in a 2002 dodge 2500HD. 6 speed, Cummins. I routinely pull a 30 foot Osprey long cabin on a 3 axle trailer, grossing 22k pounds total. I'm little Cummins gets 14.2 miles to the gallon between North Carolina and the Canadian border. I rolled the odometer over three years ago, and I'm now at 360k again. Id love to have a new truck, but I haven't found one that can top this old work horse.

    • @midtennturney
      @midtennturney 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rolled the odometer over and at 360 again!? You mean you've been past 360 once?

    • @jamesjarmon7383
      @jamesjarmon7383 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Ian Turney Yes, in 2004. I deliver boats. I bought this truck brand new, and have average 13k miles a month for 15 years with just a few breaks in the hardest part of winter. The body is about to rust away, but the engine and transmission are only about 40 percent warn according to the oil analysis. I run a low micron oil filter, and 3 stage fuel filters. keep it clean, and a diesel will run forever.

    • @midtennturney
      @midtennturney 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +James Jarmon Wow that's crazy. You usually only see miles like that on a Semi.

    • @midtennturney
      @midtennturney 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +James Jarmon Pretty sure you might be a record holder I know the world record for a car is like 3 mil but still.

    • @jamesjarmon7383
      @jamesjarmon7383 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Ian Turney Record for a car is like 6 million. Don't ask me how but some dude has a jaguar he's been tooling around in since the 60s. I paid dearly for this truck, and I've worked it hard. But I do all I can to maintain it. I just cant bring myself to pay 60k dollars for a new ram. The seats aren't even comfortable. It is kinda funny to see me pick up a 150k dollar Mastercraft wake-board boat at the dealer on a truck worth less than it's trailer. But I do it every week.

  • @gavinsteiling5571
    @gavinsteiling5571 8 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    You guys should do A 2016 cummins vs a 1st gen cummins

    • @kennethmaccourt7393
      @kennethmaccourt7393 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      that would be an awesome comparison! my first gen gets 20+ all day long! my 06 gets 15 if I'm lucky

    • @edwardpate6128
      @edwardpate6128 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Gavin Steiling My 2011 Cummins/Ram would get 21 on the highway all day long.

    • @kennethmaccourt7393
      @kennethmaccourt7393 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I forgot to mention I live at 8000 feet elevation...

    • @tscott3497
      @tscott3497 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      2016 would get 1mpg 1st 1000mpg

  • @mjbrome
    @mjbrome 8 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    do a 2002 8.1 against the 2002 diesel

  • @CACressida
    @CACressida 8 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Im not a GM fan and the GMT800 interior is made out of stale corn chips, but damn does that old truck look good. New vehicles are just getting extremely ugly.

  • @northerngunner2756
    @northerngunner2756 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is really interesting . I have a 2001 dodge 2500 V 10 and I would love to see how it stacks up to a new dodge 6.7 or even an older Chevy 8.1 litter .

    • @donaldthomas5852
      @donaldthomas5852 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have a 2004 Chevy 3500 8.1 4x4. I will never get rid this truck 247,000 miles and it will pull as good as a new one. Update 9/18/2022 now the 3500 8.1 has 262,000 miles still running strong.

  • @joetiller1031
    @joetiller1031 8 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Who would pay 60k+ for a damn pickup truck be real people.

  • @Duey54
    @Duey54 8 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Who else notice that he left the gas cap open😂

  • @msclecarcrzy
    @msclecarcrzy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    The problem with new trucks is all the pollution control bullcrap! It affects fuel economy. And then there's the price. 70k for a truck is rediculous. Probably could get that 02 for under 10k.

    • @Meatwadk6
      @Meatwadk6 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd say used truck pricing varies greatly based on the area of the country. Here in Virigina, I'd expect to pay $15k+ for that 2002. I'd sell my 5.3 gas truck and buy a truck like Andre's if I could get one for $10k.

    • @AkioWasRight
      @AkioWasRight 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +msclecarcrzy I guess it depends on the truck and the area. Some clean Ford 7.3s are still going for over $20,000, which is just insane.

    • @msclecarcrzy
      @msclecarcrzy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +CoreyHendo I could have bought an 06' with 170,000 duramax 2 yrs ago for 15k. One owner. The truck was loaded too

    • @deaf2819
      @deaf2819 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      How much was the 02 new adjusted for inflation?

    • @Countryboy2206
      @Countryboy2206 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      roughly 35k in 2002. that would be 47k today.

  • @cvcc8083
    @cvcc8083 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It gets worst for the GMC. It requires DEF, which isn't too big of a deal, but it's still an added cost and a chore that Andre never sees with his Chevy. There's also the DPF, which regenerates every now and then, lowering overall MPG. Then there's the problem with emissions controls. All that emission crap is complicated, they diminish reliability, they reduce longevity, and it all can easily get very, very expensive to repair when it all starts failing.

    • @Maples01
      @Maples01 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The DEF when released often winds up becoming toxic ammonia, but hey, the EPA is happy

  • @sbt8r
    @sbt8r 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When dude said “thank you truck” as he slapped the dashboard. I’ve been there, man. LoL

  • @jonnyk2721
    @jonnyk2721 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i had an 05 chevy silverado. thing was a beauty. but then i drove it right into the grave. i miss that truck

  • @vjc8341
    @vjc8341 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love my 2006 Chevy 2500 HD. I plan on keeping it forever.

    • @takeadayofff
      @takeadayofff 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The coffin is already paid for, just need to buy a double plot :-)

  • @moaski
    @moaski 8 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    That's what diesel emissions equipment gets you... shitty mileage, more maintenance and more expense.

  • @dtm7909
    @dtm7909 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The man with no truck payment wins every time in my world .

  • @EngineeringGoneWrong
    @EngineeringGoneWrong 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    great video guys. you should do more of these!!!

  • @tiggfigg
    @tiggfigg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video makes me feel old. Also I am nostalgic for the 2002 GMCs

  • @jaeoaktrees1649
    @jaeoaktrees1649 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    nicee! I like these old vs new reviews can't wait to see more! good job guys! I like the older trucks front end idk why

  • @brandonduke1903
    @brandonduke1903 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the comparison videos old vs new! I have a first generation 1999 F350 Super Duty Dually crew cab with the 7.3 PowerStroke, I would love to see a comparison of the first generation Super Duty Diesel compared to the newest generation Super Duty Diesel. The 7.3 has been claimed to be the best PowerStroke engine to be put into a Super Duty. It would be great to see how far they have come over 17 years and 4 different PowerStroke engines.

  • @quadrunner2124
    @quadrunner2124 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is a really good drive-train test since the gross vehicle weight was the same. When actually towing the same load, the old truck would have done even better.

  • @zunigacarlos1991
    @zunigacarlos1991 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    im so glad you guys decided to do this new segment! one that has to be done is the old Colorado zr2 vs the trail boss!

  • @samir6523
    @samir6523 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Even though the 2016 is 14 years newer, I bet it will break down sooner.

  • @kenswitzer4133
    @kenswitzer4133 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bought my 02 in Feb 02. 1500hd 6.0 and still love it. Same color as this one. Great showing for the 02.

  • @robertfrench8933
    @robertfrench8933 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    After 14 years gm is still convinced wheels are square

  • @genefortney9133
    @genefortney9133 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep up the great work! I loved the comparing with the older trucks helps put things into perspective for us guys who drive older trucks. I drive 2006 Duramax regular cab no frills, so even lighter.

  • @00POWERSTROKEDIESEL
    @00POWERSTROKEDIESEL 8 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    Now for 7.3 vs 6.7

  • @wademckenney6858
    @wademckenney6858 8 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    i woild take the 02 way before the 16

    • @jacobh3594
      @jacobh3594 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Wade McKenney agreed

  • @LinusScrubTips
    @LinusScrubTips 8 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    I hate screen Gauges. Mechanical looks so much nicer.

    • @MidShipCivic
      @MidShipCivic 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +LinusScrubTips The main gauges are physical dip shit.

    • @LinusScrubTips
      @LinusScrubTips 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MidShipCivic k? Why does that matter?

    • @LinusScrubTips
      @LinusScrubTips 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      MidShipCivic Oil pressure, Temp, Fuel, and Voltage are all on a screen. My 99's are all mechanical. Even my dad's 2012 are mechanical.

    • @MidShipCivic
      @MidShipCivic 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LinusScrubTips who gives a shit about your pet peeves, you care about physical moving dials big deal... they will wear out eventually and show inaccuracies can you take less energy & less space to operate like a digital displace?
      Nope.

    • @LinusScrubTips
      @LinusScrubTips 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      MidShipCivic You're so fucking salty lol.

  • @eaglevision505
    @eaglevision505 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for creating and posting this video. It was a lot of fun.
    What happened to the engine tuning Andre was doing to his truck a year or two ago?

  • @LittleMikeStarCraft
    @LittleMikeStarCraft 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Older truck looks soo much better than the new one.

  • @nickkapelan6094
    @nickkapelan6094 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Andre, nice comparison, you should do the Ike gauntlet with your duramax. Most of us have trucks like yours from this era and it would be interesting to compare towing capability and fuel economy of new vs old. I appreciate all your videos, thanks.

  • @headcas620
    @headcas620 8 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Old truck is better. No emissions and luxury bullshit.

    • @BMWciE
      @BMWciE 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol u just can't afford a 2016

    • @BMWciE
      @BMWciE 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol u just can't afford a 2016

    • @BMWciE
      @BMWciE 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol u just can't afford ANY 2016 model and you can't get a loan.

    • @headcas620
      @headcas620 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      a bad ass You don't know me. No i can't afford a 70k truck but even if I could I wouldn't buy one. A truck is tool to be used and abused.Therefore there's no point in having all these luxury features.

    • @jaaroakl2595
      @jaaroakl2595 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +headcas620 It aint a truck if its luxury im a square body chevy fan and i dont like the luxury stuff in my truck if you cant feel or hear that truck in the cab its not a truck to me

  • @emi123nem
    @emi123nem 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was pretty cool ! You guys should include the Ike gauntlet test too. That will really show if the extra hp , transmission and 15 years of tech are at work.

  • @robertpolkamp
    @robertpolkamp 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    LB7 truck values just went up by 20%

    • @Motomadman43
      @Motomadman43 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That is not unbelievable. Been watching older HD diesel truck values for years. They hold their own. I blame the post 2007 emissions to blame. Just my observation. Figure inflation rate of our US dollar and some people are asking more of their 2006s than they were new. Feel free to prove me wrong- I'm not the best at math!

  • @dylandownard209
    @dylandownard209 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just picked up a Duramax a couple months ago, 03 lb7 sierra slt with every feature available, efi live with 5 tunes, 4" straight pipe, edge cts2 insight, fass 165 with a sump, 180k on the odo. Love the thing, no emissions bs, way cheaper than a new truck, and built like a tank. Recently started burning oil at idle though, gotta figure that out.

  • @jamesross350
    @jamesross350 8 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    you guys do know the towing on that new GMC is somewhere around 17,900 not 13,000lbs

    • @TFLtruck
      @TFLtruck  8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      +James Ross It depends on the truck configuration. This is a crew cab 4x4 with a short bed. The rating goes to 13,900 lbs.

    • @jamesross350
      @jamesross350 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +The Fast Lane Truck very correct I was thinking about fifth wheel towing. My mistake. This test was bumper pull.

    • @semidemiurge
      @semidemiurge 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +James Ross That is what I was thinking as well. I have a 2012 extended cab w 8' bed and it is 17,900 or thereabouts iirc.

    • @thivakarsaravanamuthu4744
      @thivakarsaravanamuthu4744 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +The Fast Lane Truck It doesn't seem right because Mr. Truck floored it in the beginning of the IKE GULTEN while Andre took his Time with out flooring it and Andre used cruise control so he got better gas mileage unlike Mr. Truck he didn't use cruise control
      Please do a retry to make it fair

    • @Thermool
      @Thermool 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 2002 was likely tow rated under the older system. The 2016 is under a new rating system. I forget both their names however, but I wonder what the 2002 would rate under the new system.

  • @The400exboyz
    @The400exboyz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video guys! Really liked the comparison between the old and the new. I would like too see the same with the other brands. And when are we going to see the 2002 duramax take on the Ike Gauntlet?

  • @captainchaos7706
    @captainchaos7706 8 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Colorado vs s10

  • @thelongdaysofwheeling124
    @thelongdaysofwheeling124 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At the end of the day, it was the same overall weight going down the road other than Kent's body weight. I think that says a lot about the old truck as far as MPG. Of course the new truck will tow more but as far as the test, pretty accurate in my mind.

  • @BeachJedi101
    @BeachJedi101 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Before I watch I bet these 2 are actually very close.

  • @romanmuzychenko172
    @romanmuzychenko172 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    grate video guys i was waiting when they would have old trucks on the show, i had exact same truck as Andre before trading for 2004.5 and still have it with 276k miles on it .

  • @scottwilkins
    @scottwilkins 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    GM's tend to get better MPG as they age too...

    • @darkerthenblack4334
      @darkerthenblack4334 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      that's all cars....they should have put 5000-10000 on the new one.

    • @sheltonlindsey7965
      @sheltonlindsey7965 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      my 90 gmc sierra can do 23 mpg

    • @joanherrst590
      @joanherrst590 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I average 16mpg in 02 silverado 5.3 with 230,000 miles and running strong for another 100,000 if the frame and body dont rot apart first. Runs like new!

  • @TILLEYJS
    @TILLEYJS 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my 05 2500 HD. Just spent $2500 getting rocker panel rust repaired/replaced. Got 250k miles. Towed about 80-120k of those miles(10-14k pound camper). Probably spent 10-15k deleting, replacing front end parts, and an alternator. Original fuel injectors. Deleted at 120k miles. Love it.
    Bought it in Jan 2007 for 28000. Blows my mind that you can't get a base model F150 for that price now. I'll be keeping it until the wheels fall off.

  • @CAMAROFAN45
    @CAMAROFAN45 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    hey tfl truck you guys should do the chevy 6.0L V8's same years apart as these trucks

  • @TIm7981
    @TIm7981 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I drive a 1987 27ft motorhome as a daily driver and have zero electronic features and have zero issues driving anywhere with it... no back up camera as i have mirrors and a neck,

  • @adamm6837
    @adamm6837 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My old 97 still kicking with 250k

  • @catfishmudflap
    @catfishmudflap 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I haven't watched the whole video yet, but, I already like Andre's truck better. This fun.

  • @Jonathan-tb6fm
    @Jonathan-tb6fm 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Old Silverado 👍🏻 any one can like new trucks but for that price it's way too much.

  • @LT3Fluffy
    @LT3Fluffy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't get enough of my 2003 8.1 2500. Tows a 2 horse trailer and gear at 8% grade. I thought the temp gauges were stuck 😂

  • @westifer9
    @westifer9 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Let's see the 02 do the Ike gauntlet!

  • @jaybones3459
    @jaybones3459 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this test guys! I was one who requested an old vs new. My point in this video is with the cost comparison to both trucks. Alot of cash separates the two trucks. Andre will do the same work while having more money left for whatever it is your towing. Boats cars campers ect.....

  • @huntguy3831
    @huntguy3831 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love how ken tries to act all country but won't ride in a "old" truck. 2002 is not a old truck by any means and it did everything his new one could do which is the best part.

    • @AustinHarmon1994
      @AustinHarmon1994 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No kidding. I wouldn't even call early 90s old. What I drive is old.. 1969 Chevy Custom/20.

    • @SilverStarHeggisist
      @SilverStarHeggisist 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      he'd have shit himself if he was made to ride in my 82 K30...
      does it have AC... um no
      does it have power windows... no
      does it have cruise control... nope
      does it have heated seats... *laughing*
      so what does it have a solid steel brush guard and lift kit and military 37 inch tires... I can go place that GMC Would shit itself trying to get to.

    • @huntguy3831
      @huntguy3831 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Austin Harmon ***** I fell y'all. I have a 88 k1500. It might be old but I'd rather have it then that new truck. You could take a truck like mine and build it how you want for what they want for these new trucks. It's ridiculous what they want for these new trucks.

  • @tristanhigby8939
    @tristanhigby8939 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this video, it shows just what older trucks can do, I'd like to see a video on the generations of Chevy pickups I've witnessed 80s chevys (1500) pull the new chevys that were the 3500 with no problem 80s generation against a 90s generation with a present generation even if you put in a 2000 generation too that would be great to see

  • @bradenconrad8390
    @bradenconrad8390 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love the body style of my 05

  • @MilsurpMikeChannel
    @MilsurpMikeChannel 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I miss my old 2001 Dirty Max... but replacing injectors every 50K miles got too expensive. I did tow 8K lbs from KC to Tulsa and back, and it never shifted down once in the Flint Hills... I was pretty impressed.

  • @cpufreak101
    @cpufreak101 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    no matter what you'd probably never sell me on the new one, reason being, isn't it like $60 grand? because last night i found a '95 in texas for just a little over $300, had no rust at all, though i do wonder why it is so cheap

  • @shawnsessa8730
    @shawnsessa8730 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    The most fun tfl video I've watched so far!

  • @evanwarren3528
    @evanwarren3528 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The dpf regen cycles waste a lot of fuel.

  • @tremeloco
    @tremeloco 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The REAL reason Andre's truck won. @ 7:42
    The GCWR was 300lbs less. LOL Love 'ya Mr. Truck!

  • @takodaehlin2689
    @takodaehlin2689 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That DEF is killing the newer trucks with fuel economy.

  • @carlkey9136
    @carlkey9136 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also owned an 02 duramax. My question would be do you know if a regen cycle was present during the tow portion of the '16? That could also significantly impact fuel mileage ratings between the two. Great video. Thoroughly enjoyed.

  • @benjaminmorgan6208
    @benjaminmorgan6208 8 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    lol $67k.....

    • @Danzilly
      @Danzilly 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      +Benjamin Morgan That's why I'm keeping my 04 2500 6.0L 312,000 miles. Belts, Hoses ,brakes ,tires, and oil changes is way better than a 800 a month truck payment!

    • @benjaminmorgan6208
      @benjaminmorgan6208 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      $800 is a house payment for me with Taxes and home owners insurance lol.My inner Dave Ramsey is having a heart attack just thinking about it.

    • @sdfarmer2012
      @sdfarmer2012 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Someone is getting the shaft my 2015.5 denali duramax was only $57k.

  • @Jessehermansonphotography
    @Jessehermansonphotography 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The diesel prices just made me cry… (2022)

  • @SuperLabonte43
    @SuperLabonte43 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Most of the MPG difference was due to the emissions control stuff, not just extra power

    • @AustenARW
      @AustenARW 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +blake woolam Agreed.

    • @delwynlehman8264
      @delwynlehman8264 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +blake woolam . u said it. thats why i have an lb7

  • @Dunki113
    @Dunki113 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To be honest, yes the older truck did better on mileage but the new truck having almost 100 more horsepower and was only a little more thirsty is pretty impressive, I like Silverados/Sierras from all ranges except the new ones coming, the look just doesn't cut it for me (I prefer dodge myself personally) but the new Silverados/Sierras come with so much extra goodies that make a long drive much more bearable, I would honestly like to have either one if I was in the market for a Silverado/Sierra

  • @TheCarCrazyGuy
    @TheCarCrazyGuy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Emme Hall is not on your channel anymore?

    • @TFLtruck
      @TFLtruck  8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +scterka No, Emme is working with CNET and other projects now.

    • @TheCarCrazyGuy
      @TheCarCrazyGuy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +The Fast Lane Truck Awww, I miss her pretty face here. Best of luck to her.

    • @George-sy8jw
      @George-sy8jw 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +scterka are you serious?

    • @TheCarCrazyGuy
      @TheCarCrazyGuy 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +George about??

    • @occckid123
      @occckid123 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +George he's been under a rock. it's ok...

  • @dre04mach
    @dre04mach 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would be cool to see a comparison of the 2 pulling the same trailer - say a 30ft travel trailer (bumper or 5th). Curious if the weight advantage of the old truck would mean even more mpgs... :)

  • @BassGuitarGuy128
    @BassGuitarGuy128 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why do GM products get uglier every redesign? I thought cars were supposed to progress, not regress, in how good the design is. Every redesign makes the old design look better by comparison.

  • @dun3232
    @dun3232 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love my 2002 LT 2500hd 6.0 gas engine heated leather seats black on black. Bought it new in 2002 was going to buy a new one can't do it at 150000 miles still runs strong. to many problems with the new trucks.

  • @8supdude
    @8supdude 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    2002 with only 160,000???🤯

    • @oliverdelgado6952
      @oliverdelgado6952 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      And no rust

    • @fransiscoh9450
      @fransiscoh9450 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mines is a 2005 with 220,000🤣 no rust tho so and it’s still running strong

    • @moparcharger8642
      @moparcharger8642 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      2002 ,240k miles

    • @masterofepic02
      @masterofepic02 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got my 05 Sierra a year ago with right under 50k

    • @javaman2883
      @javaman2883 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My 1996 only has 126k. But I figured out long ago, with the MPG of big trucks/Suburbans it is cheaper to get a used fuel-efficient car for a daily driver and pay insurance on two vehicles. then to feed a big truck as a daily driver. At least for the miles I drive.

  • @Audios81
    @Audios81 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Marked differences in noise levels. My grandparents had a 1996 Chevy 2500 Diesel, was so loud. They then got a 2001 GMC Sierra 2500HD with the 8.1L V8. Was so quiet and smooth in comparison. My Nana hated how loud the diesels were back them. But towing a '42 5th wheeler we got about 4mpg lol

  • @frankmagana1408
    @frankmagana1408 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    A russian owning a Chevy truck. US-Russian relations have come a long way

    • @davidcd396
      @davidcd396 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Frank Magana Ok, let's see an American buy a modern Russian truck now.

    • @DementedButtHole
      @DementedButtHole 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's also an IT genius who lends his expertise to a US company :)

    • @frankmagana1408
      @frankmagana1408 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Bradley Vaillancourt no theyre not lmao. Ask me how i know(my dad used to have one)

  • @bohemialite6371
    @bohemialite6371 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the old guy buys almost $100,000 truck and doesn't fix his teeth come on people fix your teeth hit by a truck LOL