To answer a question I keep getting : why not measure how much comes out then add the same amount? If there's a leak somewhere then the amount that comes out will be the wrong amount to add. And yes the car should be running for 15-20 min while checking fluid level
The mech a nic even if you use the dipstick method and try to get the fluid back to the same level it was before you changed it, a leaking transmission that has lost fluid will not have an accurate level of the fluid if you go back to that same mark. And since you're using a dipstick without the correct markings from the factory, what does it matter if you are checking the fluid at the proper temperature? You have no reference point to measure the level of fluid at whether you are at the right temperature or not. Am I missing something? It seems like the only way to do this properly with a leaking transmission is to somewhere find the data that tells you how many quarts should come out when you remove the drain plug. Otherwise, the only way to put the right amount of fluid back in is if you have a dipstick with a transmission that is not leaking, or you save every bit of fluid that you drain out with a transmission that is not leaking and you put the exact same amount of fluid in and make sure that the new fluid has acclimated to the exact same temperature the old fluid was at when you measure both.
@@TortureBot On the side of the trany there is a plug that you remove. It's called the overflow plug. You add fluid until it runs out of the overflow plug. Shift the car from park, reverse and drive a couple times. You then have to connect a scanner and get into the trany module and get the trany up to temp but not to hot. The ideal range is between 95 and 115° f. This is Important because the fluid is highly effected by temperature. The level is correct when you have it in that temp range and you have only droplets of trans fluid coming from the overflow plug hole while the engine is idling in park.
I have seen it printed pretty much exactly like you are stating here. But I still feel confident saying that if you put the same amount of fluid back in and you have let both the old and new fluid acclimate in the same environment when you are measuring the amount to put back in, that you will have no problems. Some people might not have a scan tool to take the proper temperature. And now someone is going to comment, "then you should be having a professional do it!" Well, not everyone is going to pay a professional to do something. No offense to you, the process you described sounds perfect, but I think the idea I described would work fine.
TortureBot I think replacing exactly what came out with new fluid is perfectly fine and far less time consuming but only if you no the history of the vehicle. I have to do it the way the service manual explains because I don’t no who has been touching the car but if it were my own I’d do it the way you explained.
@@Gregg0112 yes, if you know for sure it's not been leaking, and nobody has serviced the tranny and possibly messed up the amount in it. I tried to get the Nissan dealership to drain and replace the CVT fluid in my wife's Rogue, after she let it go well over 100K miles, and they said since the fluid looked dark, it wasn't a good idea, as it would then start having problems. I'm like, wasn't that only the case with traditional automatic transmissions??? Where small particles from wear were helping the tranny not slip, and upon replacing, the tranny would start slipping?
After adding the fluid you're supposed to let the cvt warm up to about 116°-120° . Then while running remove that 14mm bolt (on the trans next to the transmission oil pan) and it will remove any excess fluid from the cvt. Take it from a 5 year Nissan tech🤙
That's assuming that there's too much fluid inside the transmission? Is that correct? And if no fluid comes out, should you add more until you get fluid coming out? Just confirming.
im in fear. my 09 is almost at 105k. i asked at 80k if my tranny needed a lube job 😏 but i was sold that lifetime fluid bullshit lie and went on my way but now u got me thinkin my fluid looks like fuckin soda
I decided to roll the dice with a CVT and so far I'm happy. My Sentra had over 180K without a transmission problem and so far my Rogue has done well. Changing fluids is the key.
It is a dice roll. My dad had an 08 Altima with a CVT and made it 160,000 miles on the original fluid and not a single hiccup when he sold it. On the other hand my sister also had an 08 with the CVT and only got about 90,000 before hers failed.
I rolled the dice got lucky with daughter's new 09 Sentra with 170,000 (3) trans drain & fill 85000, 120,000 & 170,000. My son's 2011 Cube bad dice roll changed trans fluid at 85,000 failed at 106,000 was drivable rumbling noise while driving. Never again anything CVT!!
@@themechanic6117 guess I'm lucky then with almost 190k km on my 08 Altima. I believe the CVT was warrantied over 180k. Maybe I'm on borrowed time - I had fluid 'checkers' with Consult @ 160 and it hadn't reached 'end of life'.
I got my CVT fluid and screen changed at 50k. I met a guy there that does it every 30K. That's 300 bucks every 30K to keep that stinking tranny from frying. But yea, fluids can never be too clean. I dont get why anyone would think it is a lifelong fluid. The manual in my 2017 clearly stated change CVT every 60K and your DOT 4 brake fluid every 20K. These fluids cook and degrade rather quickly it seems
For those with real dip stick. Don't forget that the transmission fluid level has to be measured at normal operating temperature. ATF expends quiet a lot when it warms up. In the video he is marking a reference point so if old and new fluids were at the same temperature, he should be at the correct level.
In this case, the fluid is actually known as NS3. These transmissions use a very different and specific type of fluid and after market fluid will cause failure. These valve bodys and chain assembly's see you to 809-900 psi for gearing. Normal ATF fluid actually crystalizes due to the extreme heat of a cvt. And yes you are correct this fluid expands much more than regular ATF so temperature in is very important!
Just changed the fluid and filter my 2012 Altima with 119 thousand miles it. The magnets in the pan were cover with fine metal shavings. So I would definitely be changing the filter everytime you change the fluid. Mine held 6 quarts.
I leased a 2015 altima for uber, for two years, the car had 55k miles when I got it. Turned in with 181k miles and NO problems with the transmission. Also no service done to the trans, I knew I wss pass due, but it ran.
The new method of using an overflow bolt rather than a dipstick is actually easier and more fool proof. All you have to do is: drain fluid, pour in the recommended amount of fluid/same as you drained, and run the car in park for ~15 minutes(longer if it's cold out). Take the overflow bolt out and wait till it slows to a trickle. Put the bolt back in and you're done. No squinting to read a dipstick. I've done it in my driveway with a pair of wood ramps I made. Most driveways are on a slight incline, so when the front wheels are on a ramp the car is actually level. Obviously you should check with a level and make sure the car is facing the right way.
Just an FYI that many Nissan owners question "Who makes NS2, NS3 NIssan oil? Well, the short answer to that is NS2 was made by a company named SOPUS and NS3 is made by IDEMITSU. The only visual difference is the dye colorants used to fake consumers into thinking it's better. In my findings I found AMSOIL to be far superior than Nissans and it's NS2-NS3 compatible.
I just changed my 2015 Altima @65k miles. I pumped and refilled 3 quarts, and then done again the same pump and refill after two weeks driving. My NS3 fluid parts no. 999MP-CV0NS3, and seen like more deep green than blue.
Done partial fluid changes every 30k on my maxima, complete fluid replacement at 100K by letting the fluid squirt out into container quart at a time until it flowed clean. At 130k and still pulls strong and works as it should. CVT are great daily driver. Much smoother than any geared auto or manual.
Yes, Symbiote215 is absolutely correct. In addition, with the overflow plug removed and car running.... shift the car thru the gears, resting on each gear for five seconds. Do this a few times....when the overflow stops dripping (at 113 degrees by the way...) you're done. The torque converter holds a lot of the fluid, and that is why Nissan does a double-flush.... thus the $300 tab for them doing the work. I have a 2015 Altima 3.5SL.... just did this work, at 50000 miles.
hondatrix I would be afraid that it would get too hot at the end of the dipstick and pollute the transmission fluid with the remnants of the white paint.
I just did mine on my 1987 Lincoln Contintal (Fox Body) with the FORD AOD drained all 7 quarts and the fluid pan gaskets and filter was 60.00 and the fluid Mercon Type F 20.00 for Motercraft Ford took only 1/2 hour do mine also had drain plug on the side of the pain for easy removal. I change mine every two years.
Just a suggestion for the drain plug gasket if you don't have a spare. The copper gasket needs to be soft, so you can anneal it if you have a torch, (propane, map or acetylene), heat up the copper ring cherry red but not too much as it could melt, and then quench with water. You will notice now you can easily bend it and it's original flexible properties are restored.
Well done this is a text book video no non-sense, no loud music, no selfie and Very informitive :) a dipstick from a 2009-2012 will work just the stick its the same.So no guessing
changing it isn't bad. changed my 2012 rogues fluid at 87k miles about a year ago. now at 92k and it's still running smooth. before the change it was slipping. previous owner had it serviced at the dealer and they definitely didnt change fluid, just top it off. I bought OEM fluid through Amazon.
There was a time where I was a factory trained Nissan tech; there's not a damned thing "non serviceable" about that CVT fluid, but I will note that you should use a scan tool to see what the fluid temp is when you set the fluid level. It needs to be at operating temp after going through every shifter position while the engine is running, and there's a fill port that screws into the hole for the drain plug that hooks up to a hand pump, and it just so happens to also allow you to just fill it and drain the excess without needing the dipstick in the first place. You really, really shouldn't be filling from the dipstick hole. Also, make sure to make the distinction between NS-2 and NS-3.
Everything you mentioned about the dealership is right. They are there to make money from fixing cars they know it's hard to do by normal people. Car maintenance is a big business.
As someone who works at a Nissan dealership I can say when the CVTs first came out they where pretty reliable, it’s the one that Nissan added to fake shifts to is the ones that junk out super early if taken abuse Like right now there is a NV200 mini cargo van in service that needs a CVT rebuild after only 8,200 miles, because the driver just abuses the thing while carrying a ton of weight in the back, probably near the weight capacity
Zack Salvatore well the thing is only rated for less than 1500 pounds (that’s for passengers+cargo) you add a ladder rack 3 big ladders, 2 large men, a ton of junk in the back and hauling a trailer that can easily top the weight limit, So the belt snapped
satans master Nissan isn’t my employer, I just work at a dealership that can sell new Nissans And they barley pay me as it is, Trust me I do not like these stupid CVTs I wish Nissan would make a Duel clutch but unfortunately this is what they have
satans master sales numbers don’t affect me I get paid hourly This is just a temporary job so I can save up money to pay for my associate degree without taking out a loan so I could care less RN
'14 Rogue AWD w/new CVT design: At ~33K miles, I had dealer do the drain/fill of new fluid. At ~68K miles I did this again. Very worthwhile doing this. Price was not too bad and then the dealer had a record of it being done. Why ~30K mile intervals? Because of past Nissan CVT issues and the dealer recommended doing it every 30K mile as they have seen "issues" with people who waited till ~60K miles to do the drain/fill. I'm now at 82K miles and she is running/driving great. At the first transmission service, I had them replace the center diff and rear diff fluid as well with Mobil 1 synthetic gear lube. Likely won't do that again till after 100K miles.
Not sure where you got that information from exactly but it is most definitely serviceable and as a matter of fact, in the owners manual itself it lists the recommended flush interval and states explicitly, if you do not perform the flush service the transmission will fail
kenabi ; I have to disagree. The quality of cars has never been better and 100K is nothing for a car built after 2000. Even many cars from the 90’s will easily last longer. Cars from the 80’s especially American cars would fail at 100K. My 1986 Mustang GT had to be completely rebuilt after 100K. The paint didn’t even last ten years. Yes, I wash and wax my cars here in NJ all the time.
Philip Rosenthale 100K mile rebuild???? What were you doing to that poor car? My mother’s 03 Toyota is approaching 300K miles with just basic maintenance. My Altima is approaching 110K miles without a single issue (including the infamous CVT). Arguably, older cars should be lasting way longer than modern cars on the road due to how they were built.
In nissan’s defense it may be a lifetime fluid. They know the lifetime isn’t that long haha. My frontier is a “sealed” transmission. One 10mm bolt releases the dipstick. Nissan logic so go figure.
Nothing wrong with reusing those copper washers several times. The copper is meant to be crushed into the tiny imperfections between the bolt and the pan, and it can do so several times before it's too beat up to seal again.
I have a 203 Nissan Altima with the 3.5 V6 and I’m at 192,000 miles. The CVT transmission on my car runs great and very smooth and the transmission fluid has never been changed. I drive for Uber full time so my car definitely gets put through the wear and tear. I think after seeing how easy it was to replace the transmission fluid I may do mine soon, it can’t hurt, since I’m trying to get at least 350k out of this car.
Sho right brother I have the same 2015 altima I changed my fluid at 30k, didn't care if good or bad I dont want my trans to breakdown on me am already at 58k Miles am gonna change it again at 60k mikes
I subscribed after "AINT NOBODY GOT TIME FOR THAT" lol.. just got a 2017 nissan altima so im aware of the cvt and i wanna make sure im on top of this shit lol
I am gonna try my MityVac next time I service my friend's high mileage Altima. And I use Valvoline or Castrol CVT fluid. I bought a 2012(?) CVT dipstick off EBAY for like $12. Oh yeah, I hate that CVT fluid tube. I put the plug in 180* out. It ain't going nowhere. Thanks for all your great videos!
Thank you very much for the 2013 Nissan Altima CVT transmission fluid drain & fill video. You did a great job, and the information you provided was invaluable. Cheers!
My 2010 didn't have a drain valve. Had to take the pan off. I just measured what came out and put the same amount back in. Seems to always be about 5 1/2 quarts.
Same thing with Ford. I was told by the dealer that they don't even change transmission filters anymore. I couldn't believe it. I went ahead and changed mine anyway.
@@danc1197 yes but that common sense commodity is in short supply with a bunch of drivers. Some are lucky to even find the gas door! That's why I am teaching my daughter how to do basic maintenance on her truck.
You are so right the dealership wants you going back. I have11,1000 mi and never changed it now I have to replace the Pressure control solenoid B hope it don't cost an arm and leg. Wish you were in NM sure would pay you to change my transmission oil :) 2017 Altima And thank you for showing the video You made it look easy but it's not, I'm sure.
Castrol 06811-6PK Transmax ATF Black CVT Transmission Fluid - 1 Quart, (Pack of 6) www.amazon.com/dp/B00T96Q956/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_aRsmCb3JJ0PJM I’ve used this in my Suzuki Kizashi for the last 60,000 miles (same CVT as the Nissan). Only difference is it’s dyed red. Looks like amazon might be out of stock at the moment.
That was actually pretty cheap total price for the fluid, compared to other sources. Yeah it's a ton of $$ but that's just the way it is. NS 2 fluid is way less. DO NOT accidentally buy the wrong stuff.
Yeah Nissan NS2 is retarded expensive. I went with Aisin NS2 because its the same and made by them who make transmissions. Have 3k on a change now and running good. Before that 180k with no changes.
Volkswagen tried to pull this "Lifetime Fluid" bullshit on me years ago with my '02 manual Jetta. Been changing it myself ever since and still runs like a champ.
Very good you just changed almost 1/2 of the fluid .Overfilling Nissan Cvts is the biggest overheating problem cause we see,Nissan has published service bulletins addressing this.Temperature when filling is important .I worked for a Nissan dealer for 25 yrs. and rarely is a cvt replaced for cash ,Almost always warranty or good will.
When I can't properly read a dip stick because the fluid is too clear, there are 2 things I try. Use my finger form the upper area and slide down to see where the fluid starts. This is the quickie way. Or I put the end of the dipstick on a paper towel. The reading will be obvious. But loved your video. I cannot stand the filler plug. And why they make CVT fluid changes so complicated is crazy. I think they want the dealers to get more work. But it's my dang car, right?
You won't belive how much dirt and metalic "grease" was inside my tranny pan at 36k. If you change fluid now you will drastically extend the transmission life. Buy synthetic Amsoil fluid, which is simply the best. Good luck!
not sure if you know this but the recommendation to not change transmission fluid is due to EPA Regulations. The fluid change intervals go against their total carbon footprint on a per car basis, so manufactures try to limit these items to save on their total points against them with EPA
I have a Honda Civic Hybrid with a CVT. It started shuttering every time I started from a dead stop. The dealer changed the fluid for just over $100. The shutter went away and 10,000 miles later it hasn't returned.
Lee Elliott my 2004 maxima has over 270,000 miles with no fluid change... drain.. or flush and changes buttery smooth in any situation or weather and it's a regular 5 speed!
Your video was excellent, all good vital information, well done. My mach is one who says it's a sealed unit, no need to change the fluid. But I'm going to request it on my coming service. Thank you very much.
I would put something down that dip-stick tube just to see what color the fluid is. Then IF you get the dealer or someone else to change it, check the color when you get it back. If it looks the same you can bet they didn't do the work.
On the CVTs I have owned, I always have the fluid changed at 60,000. I don't tow or do any heavy duty driving like a lot of city or stop and go, so I think 60,000 is perfect. If I was towing, or in taxi service, I would have the fluid changed at 30,000. The dealer charges around $250 for the change, but at 60,000 miles, it's well worth it.
Thats part of the failure problem , i have a Rogue it takes 8.6 quarts for complete change. You really need to do 2 chnages to get all the old stuff out. CVT's i wish they had a full flush service.
You can still find them in the junk yard I think its 2007-2012 all models the same. They also fit. Nissan didnt think about outsmarting me. They always try to give the customer cheap ass parts
In my case that would work but since I'm making a video to help others I had to take in account for people who have transmission leaks. At that point the fluid that comes out would not be the amount that needs to go in... if that makes sense to you.
@@themechanic6117 ...but some with leaks won't know, so measuring the fluid that comes out will let you know how much was lost in the (leaking) process. If you were at 90%+ capacity on the drain, I would call that good, but if the amount drained was less than 90%, then you know you have a leak, and some UV dye should be added to the fluid to help ID the leak point. The Nissan CVT was one reason we chose to go Mazda. I know all cars have issues, but I didn't want to be dissapointed with current Nissans after a flawless 12 yr ownership of an '04 pathfinder.
Sure that's acceptable but I'm also trying to make a quick diy video. If I went into every possible situation the video would be long and nobody would watch. I tried to make the video easy to follow
Never measure by the old fluid on how much comes out ,80k miles viscosity fluid breaks down and you will have bad reading or if you have leak and dont know or it leaks in coolant ,not a good idea to go from what's in already
Top tip for transmissions with no dipstick hole (Hondas, Acuras etc) Always always make sure you take the bolt out the filler hole before you drain the fluid. If it is seized your going to have a bad day.
If this car had a fill plug I would have included it in the video. That's a great tip but doesn't apply to this car .👍👍 appreciate your comment n watching
After the warranty period id off take your vehicle to a transmission shop for service. The dealer hires Tech's, they change parts, no knowledge or ability to diagnose anything.
Nissan claims to use lifetime fluids in all of their transmissions, the manual pretty much never states a fluid replacement is required. Obviously that isn't the case and it's a really good idea to change the fluid, especially for a CVT.from 2011-2015. Newer cvts are a lot more reliable but still not something I'd want in. My car.
Not only Nissan, the most manufacturers uses lifetime fluids. Volkswagen for example go down from liftime to 60k miles and later on to 30k miles on their shity doubleclutch transmassion.
@@Nismo3 I'm well aware was more specifically calling out Nissan because they still do it in some of their cars , specifically ones in the Infiniti lineup they are still using the the ancient 7-speed transmission from 2009 and don't claim any required service on the transmission. In reality the fluid should be changed every 60-70K miles. The VW DSG issue was very similar to the Nissan CVT problems though, not enough testing prior to releasing to mass market and plenty of issues as a result. Latest versions of the DSG are pretty reliable however so long as you service the regularly and at least those are responsive and usable in performance applications.
@ferkemall Yep did the fluid in my 2002 - 3.5 Altima at about 80K miles and It ran fine until 140k miles when I sold it last year. Pretty sure she will be on the road for another 2-3 years at least. Lol
Here is a quotation from the 2016 Nissan Service Guide: "For these vehicles with a CVT transmission, cube, Murano (except HEV), Altima, Altima Coupe, Juke, Maxima, Rogue, (except HEV), NV200, Sentra, Pathfinder (except HEV), Quest and Versa, replace the CVT fluid every 60,000 miles or request the dealer to inspect the fluid deterioration data using a CONSULT. If the deterioration data is more than 210000, replace the CVT fluid." (page 13)
Nissan sells a FLUID KIT for the car. Just did mine and it came with all new bolts for the pan including the drain plug and a new gasket, filter, and 5 quarts of Nissan fluid.
Yup, non serviceable cause they want you to buy a new car every few years. My cars transmission fluid is also non serviceable and it’s notorious for failing at 120k miles. I’ve always changed the fluid every 30k and currently my car has 160k and the transmission shifts nice and smooth.
MBNinja I wouldn’t be surprised if I’m the future, carmakers will make it so that ONLY dealers are able to open the hood and access the engine with a special key or passcode.
Quick tip, when pouring oil or transmission fluid from a quart sized bottle, the spout should be on top, this will help air get in properly and won't cause it to spill by having too much come out at once. If you look at the 6:25 mark, the bottle should be the other way around, the short side of the top of the bottle should be closest to the funnel. Great video, keep up the good work!
Lifetime fluid. Nissan means the lifetime of the "transmission" which isn't long. I change my 2013 Sentra and 17 Pathfinder every 25-30k. You have to use a scanner and make sure the car is level. Fluid came out black w/ 40k from new. Fluid temp very important when refilling as it goes with the correct level. Just my 2 cents.
@ferkemall Yes, in fact that's how you suppose to properly change the newer JATCO transmission fluid. Pump in through the bottom. I made mine out of a tool I found online and a cheap $8 fluid pump for quart containers. Plus you got to use a scan tool to measure the "fluid temp". Not that hard.
@@robertpsarudakis3474 what scan tool reads the fluid temp? I been meaning to get one since cars have drastically changed since the advent of OBD 2, but also don't want to spend a fortune.
@@jamesniece5203 there are many out there. Autel MaxiDas DS708 (very expensive). I'm cheap, so I found that the Launch Creator works very well. For under $200 (prob cheaper on eaby) it does all the complex data sets and readings. I wanted to see if my '13 Sentra transmission was running hot, (its not) to install a trans cooler. I also use this for our '17 Pathfinder to read the trans fluid temp prior to changing it. It's called a Launch Creader VII+ or VIII. Hope this helps!
This makes me want to change my mind about getting a 2013 maxima, I heard all Nissan cvt are bad but it could be just people not getting the fluid changed
Look back at my comment, had a altima for two years driving uber, got the car worth 55k miles, turned it in with 181k miles. No trans problems at all. Another part to the success is keeping the radiator coolant at the right freeze protection.
What you heard is exactly right, Nissan has the worst CVT in the market, so if it is not too late don't buy Nissan unless you like to spend your time reading about the horrible experiences of Nissan owners !!
Great video, I'll be doing my fluid change soon. My 15 Sentra has 74k miles and had the CVT replaced at the 45k mile mark. But my 31 yr old Volvo still has the oem trans (194k).
Well i bought a nissan pathfinder and love it but the cvts are pretty bad, dont know why they thought it was smart maybe because having more fuel economy would net more sales. But other than than nissans are very good cars, the engines produce good power but are very reliable, the transmissions that arnt cvts are generally long lasting. Infiniti was using 7 speeds when the nissan variants switched to cvts, switching a cvt for the 7speed would be in interest of longevity but lack some fuel economy. I love my pathfinder and would buy an xterra or frontier next, they did have "transmission issues" related to a failed radiator flooding the transmission with coolant(fixed since 2010) but an external cooler can be added easily on oldermodels if they didnt have the fix done. Since then these trucks are quite bulletproof and very reliable.
every ZF transmission has lifetime fluid as well(Lamborghini's, Chryslers, German cars).... So does GM/Ford's new 10 speed. It's not a Nissan thing, it's becoming an industry standard because dumbasses keep putting in Autozone ATF and ruining their transmissions.
Maybe Nissan's after Renault merger but anything before was pretty damn reliable plus the 370 and 350 and the Infiniti line in terms of the g37 and g35 share the same platform engine are also pretty reliable. That said the CVTs are a joke when it comes to Nissan I'm terms of reliability.
I have a 2016 Altima with 112K miles. Never changed CVT fluid but it had that Nissan periodic, but way more frequent lately, jump in the CVT that feels like someone let off the gas and right back on very quickly. Almost like an engine hesitation for less than 1 second. Happened about every 3-5 minutes of driving lately, but more often while cold. Decided before trading it in to do a CVT fluid change. Ended up draining 4 quarts and a couple ounces more. Replaced the same amount, then warmed it and assured it was full. Actually needed a few more ounces than what came out. After driving it for about 10 minutes, it has never done that hesitation thing again. And by hesitation, I mean at any speed from 30-65, for less than a second each event, but hard enough to feel. Now it is buttery smooth again and we have put over 200 miles on it since the fluid change. Problem solved. I used genuine Nissan NS-3 fluid.
Please help me sir I’m going through exactly what you just wrote about I’m ready to drive this fucking car into a creek I bought the car at 28,000 miles it has always felt as if the transmission was slipping took it to Nissan they replace the camshaft sensors stopped for about a month it’s to the point now Pedal to the metal goes when it wants to
@@glennmurphyjr5972 I'm not sure I can help once the transmission has problems. All I did was had momentary (less than 1 second at a time) losses of power that almost felt like lifting the gas and immediately back on. Nothing harsh, but all passengers felt it. That's when I did the fluid changes. It solved everything.
I change CVT fluid every 3yrs/36,000 miles. Have never had CVT issues on our Rogues. Interval is supposed to be 60,000 miles but you only get 5 quarts out on a pan drain so I go half that. 5qts. of NS2 at our local dealer is about $50. One of the Rogues pulls a 5x10 utility trailer several times a year with a ATV or large garden tractor on it and at 130,000 miles has never had CVT issues. I do know 2 people who had CVT "flushes" done on a Nissan and Toyota and both had transmission failures a while after ?
From what I see failure is random. People who don't take care can sometimes go forever and sometimes people who normally change the fluid have a trans fail
Matt Deluca my wife's 2011 Rogue has about 135,000. Tried to get CVT flushed at dealership at about 123,000 miles, and they didn't recommend it since she waited so long. Claimed it might cause problems. It appears to have a slight slip under heavy load/inclines at times.
So a relative has a 09 altima 2.5 with 240k. Never had transmission fluid change. Just had thermostats, catalytic, plugs and coils changed. What's the opposite of having a lemon?
I have a 08 with 165k on the clock. Original fluid in the CVT. I think the reason so many if these fail is people aren't used to the feel of a CVT and beat on them. If you're nice to it, it will last for you. I baby mine.
@@mark_r49 i drove it back and forth to college thats it!! Occassionally took it on a 4 hour drive to Houston. I dont drive over 65mph. I dont floor it. The car was junk. 2 months after purchase the rear breaks *drums* failed and would stick really bad. Had them replaced under warranty. At 23k miles the front left strut was leaking and had it replaced under warranty. The car was complete junk
An 09 coupe present here! Yes, the 09's have dipsticks however, it is very confusing to determine the proper level. It is not the same as the regular yellow oil dipstick reading lines. Please research about this specifically on TH-cam or forums before overfilling or underfilling.
I love my 2014 Altima and it's CVT transmission. I keep mine clean and also put a CVT additive in there as well. Honestly, Nissan Altima is the easiest vehicle I have ever changed out the fluid on. It's nothing to it.
The mech a nic to top it off, I had it at the dealer, I’m still under the 10 year 120k mile warranty on my 2010) they had it for 5 days, said it was fine, I took it back, put 30 miles on it and it failed. I suspected it coming. I’ll stick to Lexus or Acura for future vehicles
PartyUpLive I definitely agree. They repaired the transmission under warranty and it only lasted about 5,800 miles as earlier this month, I took it in for service and they replaced my entire transmission at 77,956 miles. Drives like never before but I’ll try to get rid of it soon before the new transmission can start acting up!
SBLACKW C I use either conventional or synthetic blend. As i don’t drive much so it’s cheaper to just do one of the two opposed to synthetic plus I hear (it’s unlikely but possible) that since synthetic is thinner, it can cause a car to burn oil if you switch over but Mainly just cheaper for me.
I think 14 or 15 and up the fluid level is set by a stand pipe recessed in the drain plug bung. You remove the drain plug, remove the stand pipe and the fluid will drain normally, reinstall the stand pipe, leaving the plug out and add 4.5 quarts, idle until operating temperature, continue adding fluid until it starts to run out again, reinstall drain plug and done
It's not serviceable people can't except that it don't matter how dirty it is the thicker it gets the more its gonna lube the belt in the trans! I have 288.000 on my 07 never changed the fluid still going bro car runs like a champ! So you got to be crazy if you doing this!
Forget about getting the fluid warm since this trick will work regardless. Use a 5 gallon white painter's bucket that also has quarts measured on the outside. Drain the transmission fluid into the painter's buckets and replace the same amount you drained in the bucket.
There is an overflow bolt that you are supposed to use when changing this fluid. I didn't see you use or even mention it. Its to the left of the transmission drain bolt and you are supposed to overfill it then start the engine and remove the overflow bolt wait till the overflow bolt stops dripping or slows and then put the bolt back in. That's how they change it without a dipstick and get the right level every time.
For Altima, do all you can to limit/ lower heat, includes minimum coolant-water ratio, 30k change both filters, best cvt fluid, seal the too-leaky cooling plenum, keep radiators clean...I found this to be enough for Mojave hard and hot conditions now 209k.
I had my Sentra trans fluid drained yesterday. They overfill it. Run all the gears and then drained some more. To take out as much of the dirty oil out
To answer a question I keep getting :
why not measure how much comes out then add the same amount? If there's a leak somewhere then the amount that comes out will be the wrong amount to add.
And yes the car should be running for 15-20 min while checking fluid level
The mech a nic even if you use the dipstick method and try to get the fluid back to the same level it was before you changed it, a leaking transmission that has lost fluid will not have an accurate level of the fluid if you go back to that same mark. And since you're using a dipstick without the correct markings from the factory, what does it matter if you are checking the fluid at the proper temperature? You have no reference point to measure the level of fluid at whether you are at the right temperature or not. Am I missing something? It seems like the only way to do this properly with a leaking transmission is to somewhere find the data that tells you how many quarts should come out when you remove the drain plug. Otherwise, the only way to put the right amount of fluid back in is if you have a dipstick with a transmission that is not leaking, or you save every bit of fluid that you drain out with a transmission that is not leaking and you put the exact same amount of fluid in and make sure that the new fluid has acclimated to the exact same temperature the old fluid was at when you measure both.
@@TortureBot On the side of the trany there is a plug that you remove. It's called the overflow plug. You add fluid until it runs out of the overflow plug. Shift the car from park, reverse and drive a couple times. You then have to connect a scanner and get into the trany module and get the trany up to temp but not to hot. The ideal range is between 95 and 115° f. This is Important because the fluid is highly effected by temperature. The level is correct when you have it in that temp range and you have only droplets of trans fluid coming from the overflow plug hole while the engine is idling in park.
I have seen it printed pretty much exactly like you are stating here. But I still feel confident saying that if you put the same amount of fluid back in and you have let both the old and new fluid acclimate in the same environment when you are measuring the amount to put back in, that you will have no problems. Some people might not have a scan tool to take the proper temperature. And now someone is going to comment, "then you should be having a professional do it!" Well, not everyone is going to pay a professional to do something. No offense to you, the process you described sounds perfect, but I think the idea I described would work fine.
TortureBot I think replacing exactly what came out with new fluid is perfectly fine and far less time consuming but only if you no the history of the vehicle. I have to do it the way the service manual explains because I don’t no who has been touching the car but if it were my own I’d do it the way you explained.
@@Gregg0112 yes, if you know for sure it's not been leaking, and nobody has serviced the tranny and possibly messed up the amount in it. I tried to get the Nissan dealership to drain and replace the CVT fluid in my wife's Rogue, after she let it go well over 100K miles, and they said since the fluid looked dark, it wasn't a good idea, as it would then start having problems. I'm like, wasn't that only the case with traditional automatic transmissions??? Where small particles from wear were helping the tranny not slip, and upon replacing, the tranny would start slipping?
After adding the fluid you're supposed to let the cvt warm up to about 116°-120° . Then while running remove that 14mm bolt (on the trans next to the transmission oil pan) and it will remove any excess fluid from the cvt.
Take it from a 5 year Nissan tech🤙
That's assuming that there's too much fluid inside the transmission? Is that correct? And if no fluid comes out, should you add more until you get fluid coming out? Just confirming.
@@ripnukem7622 correct
im in fear. my 09 is almost at 105k. i asked at 80k if my tranny needed a lube job 😏 but i was sold that lifetime fluid bullshit lie and went on my way but now u got me thinkin my fluid looks like fuckin soda
Would this be accurate for a 2014 versa as well?
@@bretearwood7027 I would say yes, every 60k seems to be when most cars need transmission fluid change.
I decided to roll the dice with a CVT and so far I'm happy. My Sentra had over 180K without a transmission problem and so far my Rogue has done well. Changing fluids is the key.
I just got a call from my girlfriends uncle that his 60k mile Altima has a cvt that's starting to fail... never ending with these things .
It is a dice roll. My dad had an 08 Altima with a CVT and made it 160,000 miles on the original fluid and not a single hiccup when he sold it. On the other hand my sister also had an 08 with the CVT and only got about 90,000 before hers failed.
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My 07 Altima lasted 195k with 60k drain and fills for the cvt. It started humming at 195k and I traded That bitch in lol.
I rolled the dice got lucky with daughter's new 09 Sentra with 170,000 (3) trans drain & fill 85000, 120,000 & 170,000. My son's 2011 Cube bad dice roll changed trans fluid at 85,000 failed at 106,000 was drivable rumbling noise while driving.
Never again anything CVT!!
Can never have too clean fluid. You're doing your best to keep that disaster of a transmission going. Cheers!
Thank you. These Nissan cvt are really a disaster waiting to happen. My friends Altima just like this one last 35k before it needed a new trans
@@themechanic6117 guess I'm lucky then with almost 190k km on my 08 Altima. I believe the CVT was warrantied over 180k. Maybe I'm on borrowed time - I had fluid 'checkers' with Consult @ 160 and it hadn't reached 'end of life'.
And in the process making sure their products keep selling 😂
I got my CVT fluid and screen changed at 50k. I met a guy there that does it every 30K. That's 300 bucks every 30K to keep that stinking tranny from frying. But yea, fluids can never be too clean.
I dont get why anyone would think it is a lifelong fluid. The manual in my 2017 clearly stated change CVT every 60K and your DOT 4 brake fluid every 20K. These fluids cook and degrade rather quickly it seems
Clean fluid? 50% of the dirty oil stays inside unless you flush, you pour 5 bottles of clean fluid and mixes with the nasty dirty oil
For those with real dip stick. Don't forget that the transmission fluid level has to be measured at normal operating temperature. ATF expends quiet a lot when it warms up. In the video he is marking a reference point so if old and new fluids were at the same temperature, he should be at the correct level.
great point
Or you can check the car manual. I believe they tell you how many quarts you may need. Do correct me if I'm wrong.
In this case, the fluid is actually known as NS3. These transmissions use a very different and specific type of fluid and after market fluid will cause failure. These valve bodys and chain assembly's see you to 809-900 psi for gearing. Normal ATF fluid actually crystalizes due to the extreme heat of a cvt. And yes you are correct this fluid expands much more than regular ATF so temperature in is very important!
measure cold with cold or hot with hot.
I agree, but with mechanics (like you) sharing your knowledge with us helps give us confidence, so we can tackle the job and save $$$
You are correct that dealerships are solely profit driven. Great review.
Just changed the fluid and filter my 2012 Altima with 119 thousand miles it. The magnets in the pan were cover with fine metal shavings. So I would definitely be changing the filter everytime you change the fluid. Mine held 6 quarts.
For sure, the pan should be dropped and filter changed at initial and every other fluid change. It's not hard to do.
2010 Altima. Flushed CVT every 30k. Probably excessive, but no issues. CVT is smooth as butter at 110k miles.
Austin Melendez is it 4 cyl or v6?
212,000 miles on my V6 CVT no issues
Buy a transmission cooler
How much does it hold after a drain we have a 2010 as well
I leased a 2015 altima for uber, for two years, the car had 55k miles when I got it. Turned in with 181k miles and NO problems with the transmission. Also no service done to the trans, I knew I wss pass due, but it ran.
The new method of using an overflow bolt rather than a dipstick is actually easier and more fool proof.
All you have to do is: drain fluid, pour in the recommended amount of fluid/same as you drained, and run the car in park for ~15 minutes(longer if it's cold out). Take the overflow bolt out and wait till it slows to a trickle. Put the bolt back in and you're done. No squinting to read a dipstick.
I've done it in my driveway with a pair of wood ramps I made. Most driveways are on a slight incline, so when the front wheels are on a ramp the car is actually level. Obviously you should check with a level and make sure the car is facing the right way.
I change my transition oil on the transmission at 114,000 miles 😂 when it started slipping 😭 but it work now my transmission feels like new
Lucky you
Is ya cvt still running ?
Just an FYI that many Nissan owners question "Who makes NS2, NS3 NIssan oil? Well, the short answer to that is NS2 was made by a company named SOPUS and NS3 is made by IDEMITSU. The only visual difference is the dye colorants used to fake consumers into thinking it's better. In my findings I found AMSOIL to be far superior than Nissans and it's NS2-NS3 compatible.
My wife got a 2009 Nissan Altima 2.5 her car is at 151,000 plus and got no problems with it never change trans fluid is holding up pretty good
I just changed my 2015 Altima @65k miles. I pumped and refilled 3 quarts, and then done again the same pump and refill after two weeks driving. My NS3 fluid parts no. 999MP-CV0NS3, and seen like more deep green than blue.
I've used Castrol NS-3 cvt fluid. Knock on wood but no problems atm. Changed fluid at 60k. Currently a little over 75k
Done partial fluid changes every 30k on my maxima, complete fluid replacement at 100K by letting the fluid squirt out into container quart at a time until it flowed clean. At 130k and still pulls strong and works as it should. CVT are great daily driver. Much smoother than any geared auto or manual.
Don't think I've ever heard a TH-camr say " give it a thumbs down" if you don't like the video....
I'm confident in the work I do, but you can't please everyone.
I hear it every day
Yes, Symbiote215 is absolutely correct. In addition, with the overflow plug removed and car running.... shift the car thru the gears, resting on each gear
for five seconds. Do this a few times....when the overflow stops dripping (at 113 degrees by the way...) you're done. The torque converter holds a lot of
the fluid, and that is why Nissan does a double-flush.... thus the $300 tab for them doing the work. I have a 2015 Altima 3.5SL.... just did this work, at 50000 miles.
Here's a Top Tip, paint the dipstick end white...
hondatrix I would be afraid that it would get too hot at the end of the dipstick and pollute the transmission fluid with the remnants of the white paint.
I just did mine on my 1987 Lincoln Contintal (Fox Body) with the FORD AOD drained all 7 quarts and the fluid pan gaskets and filter was 60.00 and the fluid Mercon Type F 20.00 for Motercraft Ford took only 1/2 hour do mine also had drain plug on the side of the pain for easy removal. I change mine every two years.
Just a suggestion for the drain plug gasket if you don't have a spare. The copper gasket needs to be soft, so you can anneal it if you have a torch, (propane, map or acetylene), heat up the copper ring cherry red but not too much as it could melt, and then quench with water. You will notice now you can easily bend it and it's original flexible properties are restored.
Well done this is a text book video no non-sense, no loud music, no selfie and Very informitive :) a dipstick from a 2009-2012 will work just the stick its the same.So no guessing
Thanks for helping us Nissan owners.
No problem, thanks for watching
Ugh I have 2015 rogue that I just paid off. It had 60k miles on it and I plan to change the fluid ASAP.
changing it isn't bad. changed my 2012 rogues fluid at 87k miles about a year ago. now at 92k and it's still running smooth. before the change it was slipping. previous owner had it serviced at the dealer and they definitely didnt change fluid, just top it off. I bought OEM fluid through Amazon.
There was a time where I was a factory trained Nissan tech; there's not a damned thing "non serviceable" about that CVT fluid, but I will note that you should use a scan tool to see what the fluid temp is when you set the fluid level. It needs to be at operating temp after going through every shifter position while the engine is running, and there's a fill port that screws into the hole for the drain plug that hooks up to a hand pump, and it just so happens to also allow you to just fill it and drain the excess without needing the dipstick in the first place. You really, really shouldn't be filling from the dipstick hole. Also, make sure to make the distinction between NS-2 and NS-3.
@John Smithy I just found the service manual for the 2012 CVT Versa and tell to fill it thru that fill hole, doesnt say to use the dip stick hole
So what does a 2007 Altima need? NS2 or NS3?
Everything you mentioned about the dealership is right. They are there to make money from fixing cars they know it's hard to do by normal people. Car maintenance is a big business.
As someone who works at a Nissan dealership I can say when the CVTs first came out they where pretty reliable, it’s the one that Nissan added to fake shifts to is the ones that junk out super early if taken abuse
Like right now there is a NV200 mini cargo van in service that needs a CVT rebuild after only 8,200 miles, because the driver just abuses the thing while carrying a ton of weight in the back, probably near the weight capacity
Alex's Customs I don’t give a shit what the driver was doing. No new vehicle with 8200 miles on it should their transmission going out PERIOD
My friends Altima lasted 32k 😂
Zack Salvatore well the thing is only rated for less than 1500 pounds (that’s for passengers+cargo) you add a ladder rack 3 big ladders, 2 large men, a ton of junk in the back and hauling a trailer that can easily top the weight limit,
So the belt snapped
satans master Nissan isn’t my employer, I just work at a dealership that can sell new Nissans
And they barley pay me as it is,
Trust me I do not like these stupid CVTs I wish Nissan would make a Duel clutch but unfortunately this is what they have
satans master sales numbers don’t affect me I get paid hourly
This is just a temporary job so I can save up money to pay for my associate degree without taking out a loan so I could care less RN
'14 Rogue AWD w/new CVT design: At ~33K miles, I had dealer do the drain/fill of new fluid. At ~68K miles I did this again. Very worthwhile doing this. Price was not too bad and then the dealer had a record of it being done. Why ~30K mile intervals? Because of past Nissan CVT issues and the dealer recommended doing it every 30K mile as they have seen "issues" with people who waited till ~60K miles to do the drain/fill. I'm now at 82K miles and she is running/driving great. At the first transmission service, I had them replace the center diff and rear diff fluid as well with Mobil 1 synthetic gear lube. Likely won't do that again till after 100K miles.
Washer fluid and transmission fluid look the same :-) Great video.
I wonder if it's the same fluid and they just pour it into different containers 😂lol jk
Not sure where you got that information from exactly but it is most definitely serviceable and as a matter of fact, in the owners manual itself it lists the recommended flush interval and states explicitly, if you do not perform the flush service the transmission will fail
these days companies consider lifetime to be 100k, roughly. so by that metric, it is 'lifetime' fluid.
just more ways to get money out of people.
kenabi ; I have to disagree. The quality of cars has never been better and 100K is nothing for a car built after 2000. Even many cars from the 90’s will easily last longer. Cars from the 80’s especially American cars would fail at 100K. My 1986 Mustang GT had to be completely rebuilt after 100K. The paint didn’t even last ten years. Yes, I wash and wax my cars here in NJ all the time.
Philip Rosenthale 100K mile rebuild???? What were you doing to that poor car? My mother’s 03 Toyota is approaching 300K miles with just basic maintenance. My Altima is approaching 110K miles without a single issue (including the infamous CVT). Arguably, older cars should be lasting way longer than modern cars on the road due to how they were built.
But a lot of transmissions don't make it that far. Some are lucky to see 60,000 miles. It is just sad!!
Exactly
Lifetime fluid. What could possibly go wrong??
Nothing at all ...according to Nissan 😂👍
They know the transmission won't last very long anyway.
In nissan’s defense it may be a lifetime fluid. They know the lifetime isn’t that long haha. My frontier is a “sealed” transmission. One 10mm bolt releases the dipstick. Nissan logic so go figure.
Didn’t do the fluid change on my 2016 Altima transmission failed at 85k miles. Cost me 6k to replace.
@@sdvten This! Nissan doesn't make quality products and screws over its customers.
Nothing wrong with reusing those copper washers several times. The copper is meant to be crushed into the tiny imperfections between the bolt and the pan, and it can do so several times before it's too beat up to seal again.
I reuse them with no problem
I have a 203 Nissan Altima with the 3.5 V6 and I’m at 192,000 miles. The CVT transmission on my car runs great and very smooth and the transmission fluid has never been changed. I drive for Uber full time so my car definitely gets put through the wear and tear. I think after seeing how easy it was to replace the transmission fluid I may do mine soon, it can’t hurt, since I’m trying to get at least 350k out of this car.
That's some good miles you've gotten out of your cvt !
Doesn’t the 2003 V6 Altima have a traditional automatic though?
@@TylerAngelier The 2003 Altima was available with a 4 speed auto or 5 speed manual.
He meant to put 2013
Yeah sorry guys, typing on my iPad can be challenging at best. I meant to say I have a 2013 V6 Altima.
Sho right brother I have the same 2015 altima I changed my fluid at 30k, didn't care if good or bad I dont want my trans to breakdown on me am already at 58k Miles am gonna change it again at 60k mikes
Got a 2016 it's milage is 34,468 I think I should have it changed as well along with the spark plugs
@@user-yl8vc9zp3f spark plugs not necessarily but cvt fluid definitely
How many quarts did you need?
I subscribed after "AINT NOBODY GOT TIME FOR THAT" lol.. just got a 2017 nissan altima so im aware of the cvt and i wanna make sure im on top of this shit lol
😂👍 thanks , I appreciate it
when the lifetime of a vehicle these days mean the warranty period.
what an era we live in
Just got my fluid..thanks gonna do myself and save 200 bucks
I took my 13 Altima for a CVT fluid flush $330. Next time I’m doing It myself thanks !
That's a hefty bill. $100 came from fluids
It's $600 At the dealer where I bought the car.
I am gonna try my MityVac next time I service my friend's high mileage Altima. And I use Valvoline or Castrol CVT fluid. I bought a 2012(?) CVT dipstick off EBAY for like $12. Oh yeah, I hate that CVT fluid tube. I put the plug in 180* out. It ain't going nowhere. Thanks for all your great videos!
Thanks for dropping a comment
Thank you very much for the 2013 Nissan Altima CVT transmission fluid drain & fill video. You did a great job, and the information you provided was invaluable. Cheers!
Thank you 👍
My 2010 didn't have a drain valve. Had to take the pan off. I just measured what came out and put the same amount back in. Seems to always be about 5 1/2 quarts.
Same thing with Ford. I was told by the dealer that they don't even change transmission filters anymore. I couldn't believe it. I went ahead and changed mine anyway.
Yes because the more that fail the more they sell. Good job 👍
@@themechanic6117 I keep my stuff forever! Not one of my cars/trucks has less than 100k on the odometer! You have to maintain your stuff.
Filters were made to be replaced, thats why they can be removed. Anybody that can drive a car should have enough sense to know that.
@@danc1197 yes but that common sense commodity is in short supply with a bunch of drivers. Some are lucky to even find the gas door! That's why I am teaching my daughter how to do basic maintenance on her truck.
Nissan ALtima 2016 does not have tranny filter on the CVT
You are so right the dealership wants you going back. I have11,1000 mi and never changed it now I have to replace the Pressure control solenoid B hope it don't cost an arm and leg. Wish you were in NM sure would pay you to change my transmission oil :) 2017 Altima And thank you for showing the video You made it look easy but it's not, I'm sure.
I think that tranny fluid might be made from actual dinosaur blood Holy shit that was expensive.
Great video. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Yeah it's stupid expensive 😢 hopefully the fluid for my Nissan is much cheaper since I can get it from AutoZone.thanks for watching
Castrol 06811-6PK Transmax ATF Black CVT Transmission Fluid - 1 Quart, (Pack of 6) www.amazon.com/dp/B00T96Q956/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_aRsmCb3JJ0PJM
I’ve used this in my Suzuki Kizashi for the last 60,000 miles (same CVT as the Nissan). Only difference is it’s dyed red. Looks like amazon might be out of stock at the moment.
That was actually pretty cheap total price for the fluid, compared to other sources. Yeah it's a ton of $$ but that's just the way it is. NS 2 fluid is way less. DO NOT accidentally buy the wrong stuff.
a lot cheaper than a new CVT ($4000) installed
Yeah Nissan NS2 is retarded expensive. I went with Aisin NS2 because its the same and made by them who make transmissions. Have 3k on a change now and running good. Before that 180k with no changes.
he knows what he is talking about very good job
Volkswagen tried to pull this "Lifetime Fluid" bullshit on me years ago with my '02 manual Jetta. Been changing it myself ever since and still runs like a champ.
Very good you just changed almost 1/2 of the fluid .Overfilling Nissan Cvts is the biggest overheating problem cause we see,Nissan has published service bulletins addressing this.Temperature when filling is important .I worked for a Nissan dealer for 25 yrs. and rarely is a cvt replaced for cash ,Almost always warranty or good will.
It's what the dealer said it takes for a change and that's what it took.
My Nissan altima has been overheating So I changed it fluid it is 100 degrees outside so it's really hot this summer
When I can't properly read a dip stick because the fluid is too clear, there are 2 things I try. Use my finger form the upper area and slide down to see where the fluid starts. This is the quickie way. Or I put the end of the dipstick on a paper towel. The reading will be obvious. But loved your video. I cannot stand the filler plug. And why they make CVT fluid changes so complicated is crazy. I think they want the dealers to get more work. But it's my dang car, right?
Thanks for the tips, yes it's crazy how they're making these cars nowadays
You won't belive how much dirt and metalic "grease" was inside my tranny pan at 36k.
If you change fluid now you will drastically extend the transmission life. Buy synthetic Amsoil fluid, which is simply the best.
Good luck!
You sir are a Patriot and a Gentleman!!!
not sure if you know this but the recommendation to not change transmission fluid is due to EPA Regulations. The fluid change intervals go against their total carbon footprint on a per car basis, so manufactures try to limit these items to save on their total points against them with EPA
CARB---California air research board. F---K THEM.
I have a Honda Civic Hybrid with a CVT. It started shuttering every time I started from a dead stop. The dealer changed the fluid for just over $100. The shutter went away and 10,000 miles later it hasn't returned.
Great! Some people aren't so lucky
You are lucky my Nissan dealer charges $399
Lee Elliott my 2004 maxima has over 270,000 miles with no fluid change... drain.. or flush and changes buttery smooth in any situation or weather and it's a regular 5 speed!
Nice video. I have a 09 Altima with 165k mi and never changed the CVT fluid. No problems so far, but I’m definitely a lucky case
Sure are,hopefully it keeps on going 👍
Take a trip of 500 mile and then you go find out if you transmission running good after that
@@IPHONEhn504 plz. dont jinx my car LOL i like having no car payments right now... haha
Pro-Amateur my friend traveled way more than that from dc to Miami and he didn’t break down
@@IPHONEhn504 Absolutely right lol
I've used the Castrol cvt fluid instead of that expensive Nissan fluid and car is running the same
Your video was excellent, all good vital information, well done. My mach is one who says it's a sealed unit, no need to change the fluid. But I'm going to request it on my coming service. Thank you very much.
did you get it done? i'm at 138k miles, 2010 nissan altima, never done a transmission fluid change
I would put something down that dip-stick tube just to see what color the fluid is. Then IF you get the dealer or someone else to change it, check the color when you get it back. If it looks the same you can bet they didn't do the work.
Great idea
Nice vid man I learned some things from this
On the CVTs I have owned, I always have the fluid changed at 60,000. I don't tow or do any heavy duty driving like a lot of city or stop and go, so I think 60,000 is perfect. If I was towing, or in taxi service, I would have the fluid changed at 30,000. The dealer charges around $250 for the change, but at 60,000 miles, it's well worth it.
Can you do video on changing the CVT transmission fluid on a 2017 Toyota Corolla?
If i get a customer that wants that done I will 👍
Thats part of the failure problem , i have a Rogue it takes 8.6 quarts for complete change. You really need to do 2 chnages to get all the old stuff out. CVT's i wish they had a full flush service.
Thank god my 08 altima had a drain plug and dipstick.
You can still find them in the junk yard I think its 2007-2012 all models the same. They also fit. Nissan didnt think about outsmarting me.
They always try to give the customer cheap ass parts
Yo, i appreciate the video. Had a broken axel so I lost some fluid in replacing it. This helped a lot
Glad it helped you
instead of mesuring with dip stick why not measure the drained fluid?
In my case that would work but since I'm making a video to help others I had to take in account for people who have transmission leaks. At that point the fluid that comes out would not be the amount that needs to go in... if that makes sense to you.
@@themechanic6117 ...but some with leaks won't know, so measuring the fluid that comes out will let you know how much was lost in the (leaking) process. If you were at 90%+ capacity on the drain, I would call that good, but if the amount drained was less than 90%, then you know you have a leak, and some UV dye should be added to the fluid to help ID the leak point. The Nissan CVT was one reason we chose to go Mazda. I know all cars have issues, but I didn't want to be dissapointed with current Nissans after a flawless 12 yr ownership of an '04 pathfinder.
Sure that's acceptable but I'm also trying to make a quick diy video. If I went into every possible situation the video would be long and nobody would watch. I tried to make the video easy to follow
Never measure by the old fluid on how much comes out ,80k miles viscosity fluid breaks down and you will have bad reading or if you have leak and dont know or it leaks in coolant ,not a good idea to go from what's in already
@@pilot2020 leaking will cause innacurate readings but viscosity is just the thickness of the fluid. The volume doesn't change as the viscosity does.
Top tip for transmissions with no dipstick hole (Hondas, Acuras etc)
Always always make sure you take the bolt out the filler hole before you drain the fluid. If it is seized your going to have a bad day.
If this car had a fill plug I would have included it in the video. That's a great tip but doesn't apply to this car .👍👍 appreciate your comment n watching
@@themechanic6117 no disrespect at all to your video. Very informative. I just talk from (in)experience 😁
Non taken lol and I agree with you👍
After the warranty period id off take your vehicle to a transmission shop for service. The dealer hires Tech's, they change parts, no knowledge or ability to diagnose anything.
I have 2015 Nissan Altima 3.5 with 106k and it’s running perfect no problems at all
How many times have you flushed the transmission oil?
Should i change mine? Just got the car i have no mechanic records on the car.
Nissan Altima 2013 2.5 it has over 147k
Yes you should
@@themechanic6117 already got it. I just brought 5q ns-3 with the copper ring
brodrdude - how is it hold up ?
@@carlosesparzavazquez4753 its good m8 its at 162k miles now and holding strong
Hell yeah I gave you a thumbs up. Great video, thanks!
Nissan claims to use lifetime fluids in all of their transmissions, the manual pretty much never states a fluid replacement is required.
Obviously that isn't the case and it's a really good idea to change the fluid, especially for a CVT.from 2011-2015.
Newer cvts are a lot more reliable but still not something I'd want in. My car.
Not only Nissan, the most manufacturers uses lifetime fluids. Volkswagen for example go down from liftime to 60k miles and later on to 30k miles on their shity doubleclutch transmassion.
@@Nismo3 I'm well aware was more specifically calling out Nissan because they still do it in some of their cars , specifically ones in the Infiniti lineup they are still using the the ancient 7-speed transmission from 2009 and don't claim any required service on the transmission.
In reality the fluid should be changed every 60-70K miles.
The VW DSG issue was very similar to the Nissan CVT problems though, not enough testing prior to releasing to mass market and plenty of issues as a result.
Latest versions of the DSG are pretty reliable however so long as you service the regularly and at least those are responsive and usable in performance applications.
@ferkemall Yep did the fluid in my 2002 - 3.5 Altima at about 80K miles and It ran fine until 140k miles when I sold it last year.
Pretty sure she will be on the road for another 2-3 years at least. Lol
Here is a quotation from the 2016 Nissan Service Guide: "For these vehicles with a CVT
transmission, cube, Murano (except HEV), Altima, Altima Coupe, Juke, Maxima, Rogue, (except HEV), NV200, Sentra, Pathfinder (except HEV), Quest and Versa, replace the CVT fluid every 60,000 miles or request the dealer to inspect the fluid deterioration data using a CONSULT. If the deterioration data is more than 210000, replace the CVT fluid." (page 13)
No the Nissan's newer CVT is not more reliable at all, i know what i am talking about, my Maxima is 2016, and had to change the CVT at 87000 KMS.
Nissan sells a FLUID KIT for the car. Just did mine and it came with all new bolts for the pan including the drain plug and a new gasket, filter, and 5 quarts of Nissan fluid.
Interesting.didnt know about that
Yup, non serviceable cause they want you to buy a new car every few years. My cars transmission fluid is also non serviceable and it’s notorious for failing at 120k miles. I’ve always changed the fluid every 30k and currently my car has 160k and the transmission shifts nice and smooth.
Exactly, they want to sell cars. They're not made to last
Do you change it yourself? And yes, I never believe Lifetime anything if it involves parts that traditionally needed routine maintenance.
MBNinja I wouldn’t be surprised if I’m the future, carmakers will make it so that ONLY dealers are able to open the hood and access the engine with a special key or passcode.
Quick tip, when pouring oil or transmission fluid from a quart sized bottle, the spout should be on top, this will help air get in properly and won't cause it to spill by having too much come out at once. If you look at the 6:25 mark, the bottle should be the other way around, the short side of the top of the bottle should be closest to the funnel. Great video, keep up the good work!
Lifetime fluid. Nissan means the lifetime of the "transmission" which isn't long. I change my 2013 Sentra and 17 Pathfinder every 25-30k. You have to use a scanner and make sure the car is level. Fluid came out black w/ 40k from new. Fluid temp very important when refilling as it goes with the correct level. Just my 2 cents.
Thank you for the info and commenting 👍
@ferkemall Yes, in fact that's how you suppose to properly change the newer JATCO transmission fluid. Pump in through the bottom. I made mine out of a tool I found online and a cheap $8 fluid pump for quart containers. Plus you got to use a scan tool to measure the "fluid temp". Not that hard.
@@robertpsarudakis3474 what scan tool reads the fluid temp? I been meaning to get one since cars have drastically changed since the advent of OBD 2, but also don't want to spend a fortune.
@@jamesniece5203 there are many out there. Autel MaxiDas DS708 (very expensive). I'm cheap, so I found that the Launch Creator works very well. For under $200 (prob cheaper on eaby) it does all the complex data sets and readings. I wanted to see if my '13 Sentra transmission was running hot, (its not) to install a trans cooler. I also use this for our '17 Pathfinder to read the trans fluid temp prior to changing it. It's called a Launch Creader VII+ or VIII. Hope this helps!
How is your pathfinder?
This makes me want to change my mind about getting a 2013 maxima, I heard all Nissan cvt are bad but it could be just people not getting the fluid changed
Look back at my comment, had a altima for two years driving uber, got the car worth 55k miles, turned it in with 181k miles. No trans problems at all. Another part to the success is keeping the radiator coolant at the right freeze protection.
keving52002 how you do that ?
What you heard is exactly right, Nissan has the worst CVT in the market, so if it is not too late don't buy Nissan unless you like to spend your time reading about the horrible experiences of Nissan owners !!
I change the transmission fluid every 2 years on cvts.
Idtelos How many miles on your CVTs? No problems?
@@39Hundred , Should of mentioned, every 2 years or 20k miles, whichever comes first. 80k miles on CVT and going fine.
Great video, I'll be doing my fluid change soon. My 15 Sentra has 74k miles and had the CVT replaced at the 45k mile mark. But my 31 yr old Volvo still has the oem trans (194k).
Tri State Rideshare if that is all the mileage you put on a car in 31 years, let me know when you get ready to sell one of your used vehicles!
this is why you don't buy a Nissan EVER... this is a money grab from Nissan...
That goes for anything with a cvt really.
Well i bought a nissan pathfinder and love it but the cvts are pretty bad, dont know why they thought it was smart maybe because having more fuel economy would net more sales. But other than than nissans are very good cars, the engines produce good power but are very reliable, the transmissions that arnt cvts are generally long lasting. Infiniti was using 7 speeds when the nissan variants switched to cvts, switching a cvt for the 7speed would be in interest of longevity but lack some fuel economy.
I love my pathfinder and would buy an xterra or frontier next, they did have "transmission issues" related to a failed radiator flooding the transmission with coolant(fixed since 2010) but an external cooler can be added easily on oldermodels if they didnt have the fix done. Since then these trucks are quite bulletproof and very reliable.
every ZF transmission has lifetime fluid as well(Lamborghini's, Chryslers, German cars).... So does GM/Ford's new 10 speed. It's not a Nissan thing, it's becoming an industry standard because dumbasses keep putting in Autozone ATF and ruining their transmissions.
Maybe Nissan's after Renault merger but anything before was pretty damn reliable plus the 370 and 350 and the Infiniti line in terms of the g37 and g35 share the same platform engine are also pretty reliable. That said the CVTs are a joke when it comes to Nissan I'm terms of reliability.
I have a 2016 Altima with 112K miles. Never changed CVT fluid but it had that Nissan periodic, but way more frequent lately, jump in the CVT that feels like someone let off the gas and right back on very quickly. Almost like an engine hesitation for less than 1 second. Happened about every 3-5 minutes of driving lately, but more often while cold. Decided before trading it in to do a CVT fluid change. Ended up draining 4 quarts and a couple ounces more. Replaced the same amount, then warmed it and assured it was full. Actually needed a few more ounces than what came out. After driving it for about 10 minutes, it has never done that hesitation thing again. And by hesitation, I mean at any speed from 30-65, for less than a second each event, but hard enough to feel. Now it is buttery smooth again and we have put over 200 miles on it since the fluid change. Problem solved. I used genuine Nissan NS-3 fluid.
Please help me sir I’m going through exactly what you just wrote about I’m ready to drive this fucking car into a creek I bought the car at 28,000 miles it has always felt as if the transmission was slipping took it to Nissan they replace the camshaft sensors stopped for about a month it’s to the point now Pedal to the metal goes when it wants to
@@glennmurphyjr5972 I'm not sure I can help once the transmission has problems. All I did was had momentary (less than 1 second at a time) losses of power that almost felt like lifting the gas and immediately back on. Nothing harsh, but all passengers felt it. That's when I did the fluid changes. It solved everything.
There is no magic fix for these transmissions.once they start having problems its time for a new trans
Yeah that no dipstick thing pissed me off
Great video by the way. I just want to add that new transmission filter would go nice with that new oil.
I don't think these cvt trans use filters 👍
I change CVT fluid every 3yrs/36,000 miles. Have never had CVT issues on our Rogues. Interval is supposed to be 60,000 miles but you only get 5 quarts out on a pan drain so I go half that. 5qts. of NS2 at our local dealer is about $50. One of the Rogues pulls a 5x10 utility trailer several times a year with a ATV or large garden tractor on it and at 130,000 miles has never had CVT issues. I do know 2 people who had CVT "flushes" done on a Nissan and Toyota and both had transmission failures a while after ?
From what I see failure is random. People who don't take care can sometimes go forever and sometimes people who normally change the fluid have a trans fail
I say after 120000 miles don't change it
Matt Deluca my wife's 2011 Rogue has about 135,000. Tried to get CVT flushed at dealership at about 123,000 miles, and they didn't recommend it since she waited so long. Claimed it might cause problems. It appears to have a slight slip under heavy load/inclines at times.
Enjoying your informative videos. Stay safe!
So a relative has a 09 altima 2.5 with 240k. Never had transmission fluid change. Just had thermostats, catalytic, plugs and coils changed. What's the opposite of having a lemon?
Apparently it's hit or miss(a lot more miss 😅)
The opposite of having a lemon is called having luck...
A unicorn lol
I have a 08 with 165k on the clock. Original fluid in the CVT. I think the reason so many if these fail is people aren't used to the feel of a CVT and beat on them. If you're nice to it, it will last for you. I baby mine.
Rick S sell it while you can still get some decent money for it lol
Adding to my "watch later" as my wife has this same car.
I just measure the old fluid then replace.
Thanks for showing the process and sharing your reasoning!
My 13 sentras transmission failed at 105 and i changed the fluid at 45k and at 80k . I will never buy another nissan ever junk cars
My friends cvt Altima failed at 35k. That's crazy! I'm not a fan of these things either.
How hard did you drive the car that you had it fail at 35k?
@@mark_r49 i drove it back and forth to college thats it!! Occassionally took it on a 4 hour drive to Houston. I dont drive over 65mph. I dont floor it. The car was junk. 2 months after purchase the rear breaks *drums* failed and would stick really bad. Had them replaced under warranty. At 23k miles the front left strut was leaking and had it replaced under warranty. The car was complete junk
He drove it normally ...
They are hit or miss. They can be garbage and last 30-60K or I have seen some go 150K.
Castrol have a replacement oil for the nissan ns2 & ns3. The main difference is the color. Very good reviews about this oil.
They are good and much less than scammed Nissan's.
The 2012 Altimas have trans dipsticks. Hopefully helps someone
An 09 coupe present here! Yes, the 09's have dipsticks however, it is very confusing to determine the proper level. It is not the same as the regular yellow oil dipstick reading lines. Please research about this specifically on TH-cam or forums before overfilling or underfilling.
I love my 2014 Altima and it's CVT transmission. I keep mine clean and also put a CVT additive in there as well. Honestly, Nissan Altima is the easiest vehicle I have ever changed out the fluid on. It's nothing to it.
Which additive do you recommend?
Changed mine every 30k at the dealer and mine still failed at 72,084 miles. Smh
That sucks. Yeah these cvt do suck
The mech a nic to top it off, I had it at the dealer, I’m still under the 10 year 120k mile warranty on my 2010) they had it for 5 days, said it was fine, I took it back, put 30 miles on it and it failed. I suspected it coming. I’ll stick to Lexus or Acura for future vehicles
@@zero2sixty244 wow that sucks. yeah, I'd stay away from Nissan too after an experience like that.
PartyUpLive I definitely agree. They repaired the transmission under warranty and it only lasted about 5,800 miles as earlier this month, I took it in for service and they replaced my entire transmission at 77,956 miles. Drives like never before but I’ll try to get rid of it soon before the new transmission can start acting up!
SBLACKW C I use either conventional or synthetic blend. As i don’t drive much so it’s cheaper to just do one of the two opposed to synthetic plus I hear (it’s unlikely but possible) that since synthetic is thinner, it can cause a car to burn oil if you switch over but Mainly just cheaper for me.
I think 14 or 15 and up the fluid level is set by a stand pipe recessed in the drain plug bung. You remove the drain plug, remove the stand pipe and the fluid will drain normally, reinstall the stand pipe, leaving the plug out and add 4.5 quarts, idle until operating temperature, continue adding fluid until it starts to run out again, reinstall drain plug and done
Can you use a different transmission fluid brand?
I wouldn't. The trans fluid is cheap compared to if your trans goes bad from using the wrong fluid.
I don't advice you to buy aftermarket oil if you want to protect the most expensive part in your car just use original fluid.
Yes, Castrol CVT fluid is excellent and it's what I use, Just double check that it fits the specs for your vehicle.
NO IT WILL ROYALLY FUCK your VEHICLE
Robert Mathews okay yeah but you probably decreased the life of it smh just own li probably 10$ more dollars
It's not serviceable people can't except that it don't matter how dirty it is the thicker it gets the more its gonna lube the belt in the trans! I have 288.000 on my 07 never changed the fluid still going bro car runs like a champ! So you got to be crazy if you doing this!
another way is to just add the same amount of fluid that came out :)
Assuming your trans fluid isn't leaking. I mentioned that in the video.
@@themechanic6117 what about the car's manual, cant you find it there exactly how much fluid it takes?
Forget about getting the fluid warm since this trick will work regardless.
Use a 5 gallon white painter's bucket that also has quarts measured on the outside. Drain the transmission fluid into the painter's buckets and replace the same amount you drained in the bucket.
What if someone's trans has a leak, then the amount that comes out is incorrect . It's why I didn't mention this method in the video
Worst technology of transmission ever. CVT NOT RELIABLE AT ALL
It's the R&D from that manufacturer that makes the difference. Honda is known for having some crappy transmissions and so is nissan.
There is an overflow bolt that you are supposed to use when changing this fluid. I didn't see you use or even mention it. Its to the left of the transmission drain bolt and you are supposed to overfill it then start the engine and remove the overflow bolt wait till the overflow bolt stops dripping or slows and then put the bolt back in. That's how they change it without a dipstick and get the right level every time.
You're right. Other people have mentioned that
For Altima, do all you can to limit/ lower heat, includes minimum coolant-water ratio, 30k change both filters, best cvt fluid, seal the too-leaky cooling plenum, keep radiators clean...I found this to be enough for Mojave hard and hot conditions now 209k.
I had my Sentra trans fluid drained yesterday. They overfill it. Run all the gears and then drained some more. To take out as much of the dirty oil out