That fact that she refused to give it to him 2 1/2 months prior and still went back to her crying for help when Murray was fucking up in those last hours, ...that should tell you something.
They ( several doctors through the years, including Murray) should have never given him an anesthetic for sleep in the first place. It is beyond wreckless to do that, monitoring or not. It should have never had happened in the first place.
@@4evermichael88I know they wanted to help him but it has to be done safely. Michael created a web (with help) and got caught in the web. He depended on man instinct of God to help him. He needed a miracle.
I'm still not over the fact that Murray really gave him an anesthetic. I mean even if he begged for that crazy idea , you should've said NO and try to convince Michael that it will cause him a lot of damage or worse , death . But I think money was playing a big role here . Murray did anything Michael asked because I guess the payment was big . He didn't really care about the result ... I think Michael was exhausted and deprived from sleep and his mind maybe too tired so he just thought that he'd feel better after that , but it wasn't a solution . My mom suffers from insomnia for years , she only sleeps on sleeping pills basically she became addicted to it and sometimes even those doesn't work for her , but anesthetic?! I've never heard of such remedy, let alone having that at home . It's just crazy what was done to him .
Michael was a celebrity and had nobody around him to tell him no, but he was otherwise a garden variety junkie, sadly. The myriad other narcotics he'd been obtaining for years and years stopped working, and he did what drug addicts do when what we use stops working - we go to the next strongest thing. Today, I thank higher power that the next strongest thing for me brought be just short of death and into enough desparation that I became willing to go to any length for the precious gift of sobriety I've enjoyed since July 6th of 2004.
@@migbham1Yup hate to say it but you’re spot on. Michael was on a pedestal of celebrity very few ever obtain. Now in his defense what got him started on hard pills was the Pepsi accident through no fault of his own. Now the child accusations we can go back and forth on but we know that was another catalyst for him becoming a hardcore addict. He allegedly did have his sober periods but that’s years and years of taking literal handfuls of uppers, downers, opiates etc. Certain doctors would give him what he wanted because of his insane level of stardom. After decades of this, as you say…it stopped working so he went to something even more hardcore in anesthesia. It’s unfathomable to most of us but that was Mikes reality. It actually scares me to think of it. It’s some dark stuff.
I hope MJ listen to this woman. If he want to sleep quickly and be safe he just go to the hospital atleast he will be monitored and safe as well. But i think MJ dont like go to the hospital bcoz paparazzi is always around
That was not the reason he didn't go to the hospital. He knew that no hospital would have administered Propofol to help him sleep. It is NOT a sleep aid and you don't fall asleep from it. It makes you unconscious, which are two very different things.
Why do you think the doctor only did like 2 years, there is way more to this story. The doctor doesn't even say much about Michael Jackson in interviews.
@@whiteheart9218 Let's play a game. I will make a list of acts committed by Michael Jackson which led to his demise and you will make an attempt to prove me wrong. Nothing on my list will be from the tabloids, everything will be an acknowledged fact. Shall we play? Good. Let us begin. 1. While filming a Pepsi commercial, MJ's hair was set afire by the pyrotechnics. A spark got into his hair, came into contact with the chemicals and burnt his hair down to the scalp. Because of this accident, MJ became addicted to painkillers. It has been stated MJ did not want to do the commercial, but he did anyway. Whether he wanted to or not, he did, got injured and addicted to painkillers. 2. While going to an awards ceremony with Brooke Shields, MJ brought a 12 year old dwarf actor named Emmanuel Lewis and carried the child on his hip and had the child sit on his lap. What man carries a child and let's that child sit on his lap? People started looking at him differently after this incident. 3. On the "Victory Tour" MJ and his little boy friend Emmanuel Lewis travelled by private plane from city to city leaving Jackson's brothers to make their own way. This led to trouble between the brothers and Michael. 4. Michael Jackson has stated that he and Brooke Shields had a "loving relationship". Brooke Shields told MJ she did not want to marry him and Brooke Shields stated in an interview she and MJ were only friends. MJ lied and got caught in a lie. 5. Michael Jackson admitted to sleeping in the same bed with his little boy friends Macaulay Culkin and his brother Kiern. Why would a black man want to sleep in the same bed with two underage white boys? 6. For the duration of the "Bad" tour, Michael Jackson had underage boy James Safechuck with him every step of the way for 18 months. Why would a black man want to hang out with an underage child for 18 months and where were his parents? The list can go on and on. I'll stop here because you don't have the intelligence nor the courage to answer truthfully. Because of the aforementioned, people's opinion of MJ began to change and it reflected in his album sales. No go run along and play with your Michael Jackson dolls and jerk off.
Micheal had to much money... Leaches look beyond safety, they gambled... And micheal lost... His life. Propafol? How about weed, wine, ambient? No... You picked the most craziest shot on the shelf. And administered it! You killed him. Excitement of the dollar
That's the Christian bible. That's Paul. Talking to Timothy. BUT... Christ wouldn't have said that. But he did say you can't serve two masters... You can't serve both good and money. In other words... You can't be a slave to the "almighty" dollar. So similar but not quite the same. People should look closely at what Christ said because I think the point of the Bible is all the other people get it wrong. Women can't preech. Can't be gay etc. It's like JC didn't say all that. He'd be like you're missing the point ... Which is love. Love God with all your heart and your neighbor add yourself. And forgive others about as much as you would like to be forgiven. Ask forgiveness and you will be... Etc. No strict legalistic crap.
Awful that he was going through this. All he wanted was to sleep ans have someone watch him. Conrad pumped him full of bad drugs and failed to watch him. He got away with murder and he should still be in prison.
Why was he not taken to the hospital when one side of his body was hot and other half was cold so why the hell was he not taken to hospital then it’s always in my mind to this day 11 years on the thing with Annasetic propofol is it doesn’t give you proper REM sleep REM Sleep is what we need to be able to function properly he would not of even had trouble sleeping if he was not pushed In to 50 shows 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 poor man no wonder why he had trouble sleeping he knew he could not do 50 he could not do one show let alone 10 or 50 just heartbreaking I blame AEG Live they hired dr Conrad Murray and gave Michael Jackson no break
This is still very shocking to me because a surgeon wouldn’t give u surgery every day. So how could a friend think this stuff was safe. When I woke up from surgery with that stuff I slept off and on for 24 hours. I didn’t even need pain meds cause I was sleepy. That doctor could have used his license the right way and treated him for depression and Drug abuse. For years I thought he just died of taking a pain pill!
Jackson was introduced to Propofol in 1998 or 1999 by Dr Quinn during a dental procedure. He had trouble sleeping and asked Quinn for Propofol so he could sleep. Quinn rejected his request telling him it was too dangerous to be used without the proper medical equipment. Other doctors and nurses told Jackson the same thing but Jackson would not and did not listen to sage advice. Jackson didn't go to rehab because he was in denial of his addictions. Jackson could not be saved from Michael Jackson.
I knew Michael personally for years. What you said is the truth. He was a very stubborn man who was in denial about his addiction to pain medication. He never wanted to admit that he needed help. The propofol was for sleep for him, but it also made him high. He liked being high because it allowed him to escape from reality. He told me that himself. He said he felt like either way he was going to die. Whether he continued to abuse drugs or not!! Michael needed rehab and better Dr's. I tried to help him because I was raised by an addict. But Michael didn't want help or to hear he was an addict and he bit my head off. I love him more than anyone will ever know and him vice versa to me. But Michael was a stubborn jerk sometimes. He was murdered by others who were around him. But part of it was Michael's own stubborn denial!!
@@shronazam276 I read an article revealing Dr Quinn was first to Jackson Propofol. You present a valid counterpoint so I check it out. I find the article you spoke of. Quinn says one thing under oath and Ratner says something else and both could be true. Ratner more than likely gave Jackson Propofol before Quinn. Jackson more than likely didn't tell Quinn he had taken Propofol before if she didn't ask him. I cannot say 100% it's fact because I wasn't there; that's my hypothesis. Your post is greatly appreciated.
@@live2diedie2liveagain78 he did interviews where he talked about his relationship with Michael and how propofol came about..it's on TH-cam. And he even made a documentary about his life where he spoke about Michael also.
@@Beun007 I'm sorry, I used the wrong word. English is my third language. I meant that it is anyone's guess if he did it on purpose or not. I know Michael made these statements about believing he was going to be murdered, however he never used the word Illuminati. And besides from Michael's belief that there was a huge conspiracy against him to kill him and take his assets, there hasn't yet surfaced any actual proof of that. Not saying it isn't so, just saying that we don't know.
He had chronic insomnia for years. Stress caused it. As well as his pain medication addiction. I knew Michael personally for years. He and I both suffer from insomnia.
One of the symptoms of taking propofol and demerol especially for extended long periods of time ironically is insomnia. What was giving Michael Jackson "sleep" was creating his trouble with sleeping. When you have "doctors" and a camp who are more concerned with financial gain his death was inevitable. Michael Jackson premature death was unfortunately just a waiting game. He was a sitting duck. 😥😥😥.
That doctor did definitely kill him. When they were in call with 911 they said lay him on the floor and they didnt do it. The paramedic testified that he saw Murray laying Michael on the floor when they arrived. Feels so much like this is a setup. He was killed. Murray is a doctor and should know to do CPR on hard surface not in the bed! Poor Michael💔just heartbreaking
What fucking angers me was why he wasn’t shocked back to life with these electrical irons that they use if someone goes in to cardiac arrest and that there was so much fucking about so the Ambulance wasn’t called right away bastards 😤😢
Conrad should've had a defibulator at the premsis for a start and then it could've started straight away while waiting for paramedics. Gross negligence
That fact that she refused to give it to him 2 1/2 months prior and still went back to her crying for help when Murray was fucking up in those last hours, ...that should tell you something.
Its sad , he couldnt sleep, so he needed something to knock him out, but to be monitored, Dr Murray was not there monitoring , on the phone chatting
Murray was only bothered about his own life. the amount of other doctors jackson could have had that would not have let him down
Crisis actors.
This nurse is lying as is his doctor Murray!
They ( several doctors through the years, including Murray) should have never given him an anesthetic for sleep in the first place. It is beyond wreckless to do that, monitoring or not. It should have never had happened in the first place.
@@4evermichael88I know they wanted to help him but it has to be done safely. Michael created a web (with help) and got caught in the web. He depended on man instinct of God to help him. He needed a miracle.
I'm still not over the fact that Murray really gave him an anesthetic. I mean even if he begged for that crazy idea , you should've said NO and try to convince Michael that it will cause him a lot of damage or worse , death . But I think money was playing a big role here . Murray did anything Michael asked because I guess the payment was big . He didn't really care about the result ... I think Michael was exhausted and deprived from sleep and his mind maybe too tired so he just thought that he'd feel better after that , but it wasn't a solution . My mom suffers from insomnia for years , she only sleeps on sleeping pills basically she became addicted to it and sometimes even those doesn't work for her , but anesthetic?! I've never heard of such remedy, let alone having that at home . It's just crazy what was done to him .
Michael was a celebrity and had nobody around him to tell him no, but he was otherwise a garden variety junkie, sadly. The myriad other narcotics he'd been obtaining for years and years stopped working, and he did what drug addicts do when what we use stops working - we go to the next strongest thing. Today, I thank higher power that the next strongest thing for me brought be just short of death and into enough desparation that I became willing to go to any length for the precious gift of sobriety I've enjoyed since July 6th of 2004.
@@migbham1Yup hate to say it but you’re spot on. Michael was on a pedestal of celebrity very few ever obtain. Now in his defense what got him started on hard pills was the Pepsi accident through no fault of his own. Now the child accusations we can go back and forth on but we know that was another catalyst for him becoming a hardcore addict. He allegedly did have his sober periods but that’s years and years of taking literal handfuls of uppers, downers, opiates etc. Certain doctors would give him what he wanted because of his insane level of stardom. After decades of this, as you say…it stopped working so he went to something even more hardcore in anesthesia. It’s unfathomable to most of us but that was Mikes reality. It actually scares me to think of it. It’s some dark stuff.
Micheal should have listened to her cause he asked her for it and she told him micheal if you take this you may never wake up from it
MJ didn't take the advice of the people that actually cared about him. No one could save a man from HIMSELF.
I hope MJ listen to this woman. If he want to sleep quickly and be safe he just go to the hospital atleast he will be monitored and safe as well. But i think MJ dont like go to the hospital bcoz paparazzi is always around
That was not the reason he didn't go to the hospital. He knew that no hospital would have administered Propofol to help him sleep. It is NOT a sleep aid and you don't fall asleep from it. It makes you unconscious, which are two very different things.
@@4evermichael88 yea they use that for surgery
Why is no one investigating? there were a group of people behind this.
Why do you think the doctor only did like 2 years, there is way more to this story. The doctor doesn't even say much about Michael Jackson in interviews.
@@007amy-n1b before he died MICHAEL exposed sony
@@andria8279 i know i watch TH-cam too, i noticed when they want control or expose things when they have a huge fan basethey die.
Poor guy couldn’t sleep bc of the stress and hates he got from the media for dumbest reasons
MJ brought his troubles on himself.
@@thedarkstranger963 shut up Karen
@@whiteheart9218 Let's play a game. I will make a list of acts committed by Michael Jackson which led to his demise and you will make an attempt to prove me wrong. Nothing on my list will be from the tabloids, everything will be an acknowledged fact. Shall we play? Good. Let us begin.
1. While filming a Pepsi commercial, MJ's hair was set afire by the pyrotechnics. A spark got into his hair, came into contact with the chemicals and burnt his hair down to the scalp. Because of this accident, MJ became addicted to painkillers. It has been stated MJ did not want to do the commercial, but he did anyway. Whether he wanted to or not, he did, got injured and addicted to painkillers.
2. While going to an awards ceremony with Brooke Shields, MJ brought a 12 year old dwarf actor named Emmanuel Lewis and carried the child on his hip and had the child sit on his lap. What man carries a child and let's that child sit on his lap? People started looking at him differently after this incident.
3. On the "Victory Tour" MJ and his little boy friend Emmanuel Lewis travelled by private plane from city to city leaving Jackson's brothers to make their own way. This led to trouble between the brothers and Michael.
4. Michael Jackson has stated that he and Brooke Shields had a "loving relationship". Brooke Shields told MJ she did not want to marry him and Brooke Shields stated in an interview she and MJ were only friends. MJ lied and got caught in a lie.
5. Michael Jackson admitted to sleeping in the same bed with his little boy friends Macaulay Culkin and his brother Kiern. Why would a black man want to sleep in the same bed with two underage white boys?
6. For the duration of the "Bad" tour, Michael Jackson had underage boy James Safechuck with him every step of the way for 18 months. Why would a black man want to hang out with an underage child for 18 months and where were his parents?
The list can go on and on. I'll stop here because you don't have the intelligence nor the courage to answer truthfully. Because of the aforementioned, people's opinion of MJ began to change and it reflected in his album sales. No go run along and play with your Michael Jackson dolls and jerk off.
Micheal had to much money... Leaches look beyond safety, they gambled... And micheal lost... His life. Propafol? How about weed, wine, ambient?
No... You picked the most craziest shot on the shelf. And administered it! You killed him. Excitement of the dollar
Wow good point
this all happens because of money 😭😭😭 "the love of money is the root of all evil" micheal jackson-
rip mj❤😗 i love u
That's the Christian bible. That's Paul. Talking to Timothy. BUT... Christ wouldn't have said that. But he did say you can't serve two masters... You can't serve both good and money. In other words... You can't be a slave to the "almighty" dollar. So similar but not quite the same. People should look closely at what Christ said because I think the point of the Bible is all the other people get it wrong. Women can't preech. Can't be gay etc. It's like JC didn't say all that. He'd be like you're missing the point ... Which is love. Love God with all your heart and your neighbor add yourself. And forgive others about as much as you would like to be forgiven. Ask forgiveness and you will be... Etc. No strict legalistic crap.
And MJ's drug addiction was not a problem to you?
Why did he .never thought about getting help for his addiction? No. He wanted what he wanted. Rich guy.
@@victormkhaliphi2778 Right? Dr. Murray never gave him a drug for which he didn't ask and pay.
Money is evil. Will have you believe you are invisible. 😭😥😢😢
Awful that he was going through this. All he wanted was to sleep ans have someone watch him. Conrad pumped him full of bad drugs and failed to watch him. He got away with murder and he should still be in prison.
Why was he not taken to the hospital when one side of his body was hot and other half was cold so why the hell was he not taken to hospital then it’s always in my mind to this day 11 years on the thing with Annasetic propofol is it doesn’t give you proper REM sleep REM Sleep is what we need to be able to function properly he would not of even had trouble sleeping if he was not pushed In to 50 shows 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 poor man no wonder why he had trouble sleeping he knew he could not do 50 he could not do one show let alone 10 or 50 just heartbreaking I blame AEG Live they hired dr Conrad Murray and gave Michael Jackson no break
It doesn't give you either rem sleep or nrem sleep. Propofol doesn't make you sleep at all, it makes you unconscious
That’s not true. AEG was worried about him... Also Michael want Dr Murray. It’s 100% Murray’s fault
This is still very shocking to me because a surgeon wouldn’t give u surgery every day. So how could a friend think this stuff was safe. When I woke up from surgery with that stuff I slept off and on for 24 hours. I didn’t even need pain meds cause I was sleepy. That doctor could have used his license the right way and treated him for depression and Drug abuse. For years I thought he just died of taking a pain pill!
1 word. Greed.
safe to use an entire gram of propofol infused every day of his life. has this type of use ever been tested?
She knew he was on it tooooo
Jackson was introduced to Propofol in 1998 or 1999 by Dr Quinn during a dental procedure. He had trouble sleeping and asked Quinn for Propofol so he could sleep. Quinn rejected his request telling him it was too dangerous to be used without the proper medical equipment. Other doctors and nurses told Jackson the same thing but Jackson would not and did not listen to sage advice. Jackson didn't go to rehab because he was in denial of his addictions. Jackson could not be saved from Michael Jackson.
I knew Michael personally for years. What you said is the truth. He was a very stubborn man who was in denial about his addiction to pain medication. He never wanted to admit that he needed help. The propofol was for sleep for him, but it also made him high. He liked being high because it allowed him to escape from reality. He told me that himself. He said he felt like either way he was going to die. Whether he continued to abuse drugs or not!! Michael needed rehab and better Dr's. I tried to help him because I was raised by an addict. But Michael didn't want help or to hear he was an addict and he bit my head off. I love him more than anyone will ever know and him vice versa to me. But Michael was a stubborn jerk sometimes. He was murdered by others who were around him. But part of it was Michael's own stubborn denial!!
@@elizabethjones7735 who are you though?
He was introduced to propofol in 1995 before the HBO one night show by dr. Ratner.
@@shronazam276 I read an article revealing Dr Quinn was first to Jackson Propofol. You present a valid counterpoint so I check it out. I find the article you spoke of. Quinn says one thing under oath and Ratner says something else and both could be true. Ratner more than likely gave Jackson Propofol before Quinn. Jackson more than likely didn't tell Quinn he had taken Propofol before if she didn't ask him.
I cannot say 100% it's fact because I wasn't there; that's my hypothesis. Your post is greatly appreciated.
@@live2diedie2liveagain78 he did interviews where he talked about his relationship with Michael and how propofol came about..it's on TH-cam.
And he even made a documentary about his life where he spoke about Michael also.
he trusted this nurse lot htan any
In other words: Murray killed MJ, right?
The media did...
Yes. Probably unwillingly, but yes
@@4evermichael88 probably unwillingly??? MJ himself already expected to be killed by the illumination!
@@Beun007 I'm sorry, I used the wrong word. English is my third language. I meant that it is anyone's guess if he did it on purpose or not. I know Michael made these statements about believing he was going to be murdered, however he never used the word Illuminati. And besides from Michael's belief that there was a huge conspiracy against him to kill him and take his assets, there hasn't yet surfaced any actual proof of that. Not saying it isn't so, just saying that we don't know.
Why did he have trouble sleeping?
long shows
@@paigeandcedsister and also stress!
Sunshine_ Blue_Skies and hatestorm from media
He had chronic insomnia for years. Stress caused it. As well as his pain medication addiction. I knew Michael personally for years. He and I both suffer from insomnia.
One of the symptoms of taking propofol and demerol especially for extended long periods of time ironically is insomnia. What was giving Michael Jackson "sleep" was creating his trouble with sleeping. When you have "doctors" and a camp who are more concerned with financial gain his death was inevitable. Michael Jackson premature death was unfortunately just a waiting game. He was a sitting duck. 😥😥😥.
You knew he was on it then or before not and cold
The doctor failed him they all killed him RIP mj
That doctor did definitely kill him. When they were in call with 911 they said lay him on the floor and they didnt do it. The paramedic testified that he saw Murray laying Michael on the floor when they arrived. Feels so much like this is a setup. He was killed. Murray is a doctor and should know to do CPR on hard surface not in the bed!
Poor Michael💔just heartbreaking
He took antidepression tablet
No propofol is a sleeping aid used for surgeries!
As well, you mean.
He was dieing that Dam Doctor Murry never better then to let Mj leg to long in bed he should call 911.
What fucking angers me was why he wasn’t shocked back to life with these electrical irons that they use if someone goes in to cardiac arrest and that there was so much fucking about so the Ambulance wasn’t called right away bastards 😤😢
Conrad should've had a defibulator at the premsis for a start and then it could've started straight away while waiting for paramedics. Gross negligence
Why didn’t he just take melentonin pills for sleep
because he needed something much stronger
@@franci.f. What I've noticed is that he had pretty severe nutrient imbalances not only poor nutrition causes that but also stress.
@@kristuti1 i understand. This is pretty sad. He was the owner of the world and he had stress. Then better to live a modest but happy life.
Because they didn’t work. Michael had chronic insomnia, for years.
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F******g mad altogether....for alllll his vast wealth and global noteriety, this GUY was a dumpster fire of a human being.
What does that mean?
Why don't we put you in his place and see how well you'd fare?