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I love you videos. Keep going on. Im waiting for more DF Retro content. And some other technical analysis, maybe Rocket League on Switch, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and some PS VR content too. Nice videos again.
How strange for a Japanese game to have a full options menu on console, when on PC Japanese titles are notorious for having a severe lack of them. Oh, it is on PC as well. Still, the point stands.
William Fenton Last I checked they're PS4 fanboys over there, no joke they love the Playstation over there so it's not surprising to see them favour Playstation over other platforms.
I don't like Star Ocean very much but I do respect the availability of these settings. I would like to see these settings in all games on all platforms
It's an OLD game ffs. Who cares if it offers 2009 PC options, lol. The ONLY reason it does is because it's OLD and they tested the console and found they could run it at 2009 PC settings, so they put the options in. They most definitely will NOT be offering PC settings in modern games. Bravo PS4, you can match a 2009 PC, lmao.
Dude, Star Ocean: Second Story on PS1 and Til The End of Time on PS2 are easily some of my favorite early RPGs. I get why it's not for everyone though!
adamaj The game requires a GTX960 (fairly high-end 2015 card) and an i5 4670 (very high-end 2013 CPU) to run somewhat reliably at maxed settings on a PC. The PS4 is roughly matching a 2014 PC as is expected. You can't find a 2009 build that could run a game at unstable 60fps 4k with these shaders, especially since DX11 didn't even exist until 2011. There's no point bashing budget gaming machines--whether they're consoles or budget PCs--just because they're slightly behind. While they never live up to hype, they always slightly exceed reasonable expectations.
Wow, the pc vs console war is still going on? Must be the only thing people have to hang onto these days. Let it go kids, it's just video games. It's time to grow up.
A note for those wanting to play this one on that Steam Deck. Proton 7.0 just recently got updated and even though it’s listed as unsupported, it works perfectly fine now.
It's an OLD game ffs. Who cares if it offers 2009 PC options, lol. The ONLY reason it does is because it's OLD and they tested the console and found they could run it at 2009 PC settings, so they put the options in. They most definitely will NOT be offering PC settings in modern games. Bravo PS4, you can match a 2009 PC, lmao.
TRI-ACE!!!! OH PLEASE REMAKE/REMASTER VALKYRIE PROFILE 2!!! On a side note: I'm glad they remastered this game, and bumped up the quality! I really enjoyed this game.
I just started playing the game yesterday on the PS5 and it's amazing how well the PS3 remaster looks and performs on the PS5. I last played SO4 on PS3 in 2010 and I'm very impressed with how good the game looks 13 years later, at first glance you might think it's a current PS5 game. The only things that tri-ace could have improved would be antialiasing and an auto-save / quick-save function would have been nice. Unfortunately, the whole thing shows how good it would have been if Sony had developed a PS3 emulator for the PS5, then we could now play Metal Gear Solid 4, MotorStorm, Killzone and Resistance in a similar quality. It's also a pity that tri-ace's idea of implementing PC-like settings in a console game wasn't adopted by other developers. It would be nice to be able to play games like A Plague Tale Requiem on PS6 in the future at 120 FPS.
LOTDL Fanboy Actually..there is a reason.. its bcz of the optimization.. one of th best benefits of console gaming is you dont have to worry about the settings.. developers chose the best settings for you to provide the most stable experience they can..the extra optimiszation for a particular set of settings in turn allows games to run much better than they would if they ran on a pc with equivalent specs.. so while it seems beneficial to have these settings..trust me..console gaming is better off without it
I think that's what the default options are for, with the ability to change it tucked away in a settings tab. Someone can play the whole game and not even know the graphics options exist, but people who prefer a smoother experience, or someone who wants a higher resolution at 30fps are also catered to. That being said, when people do want to change these settings, constantly popping in and out to change things to make sure it's performant is a headache (to be fair this also applies to PC). Thats where presets come in. Nioh had a 'gameplay mode' and 'movie mode' which is a single flip of a switch to get both sides of the performance / graphics coin. That would make things a lot easier, with custom tweaking options hidden behind a drop down to avoid clutter. Maybe integrate this independent of resolution as well, for example performance mode at 1920 compared to 4k would dynamically change settings for best performance in relation to each respective resolution,
Steven Walther And thats why i think the recent trend of offering a quality and a high frame rate mode is good.. but dealing with all the setting is a little cumbersome.. im a pc gamer.. so i basically know how it feels.. you end up spending a lot of time tweaking the setting.. it takes you away from the gameplay experience.. so i still think consoles shouldn't have full fledged pc like graphics options.. but i could very well be wrong
DatGrunt It's okay to have an opinion.. but from my personal experinece..i can easily say its distracting.. and basically the puprose of console gaming is to simply plug and play.. not having to worry about these things is one of the reasons i have a console along with my pc
4years later and these kind of options are still not a standard. That's a shame. It's always great to see developers making these kind of options available.
I pray more devs look at this release and let the user decide what settings they want on or off and become the new standard with their menus. More 60 fps game too! - a non console user
It's really nice to see a developer implement PC settings in a console title. Hopefully this becomes the norm in the coming future. Doesn't hurt to have options. Awesome video DF!
No. I hope this doesn’t become the norm. It’s ridiculous. The hardware is fixed, there is no reason for graphics toggles. Optimise and balance the experience. Consoles are consoles. Plus & Play. No fuss. Not ‘tweak graphics settings for half an hour’. Maximum games should have are the menu toggles for resolution/frame rate priority. And hopefully those things vanish when next gen systems ship.
It kind of already is happening with many console games offering more options then what they got in the past but this is the first time I've seen a game offer the full PC set of options.
BORK MORK Are you? It takes seconds to tweak, yes. And then off you go to play the game to see if the frame rate is stable.. does the game provide a frame rate counter? How can we gauge the impact on a console. This means trial and error, tweak, test... tweak some more. Did draw distance just cause that frame drop in combat? Or was it textures. It’s not a PC. And consoles are flying far too close to PC territory that they are shedding everything that sets them apart. Having options is fine. But these kinds of settings are designed for *variable* hardware configurations. Not fixed ones. If a setting doesn’t work well on the console then it’s NEVER going to work well -so whys it there?
lilDeviant You can still have plug-play and an bigger options menu for the visuals. With people who dont care for settings they can play it with the default visual settings while people who wanna better frame rate or a better picture they can tweek the game a bit.
I mean to be fair to everyone (at least on the Xbox side of things) what exclusives have come out besides Forza Horizon 7 worth looking at. On the Nintendo side of things all you have is xenoblade 2 (they've already looked at odyssey). The switch at least has the advantage of being a handheld console running full console titles on a 7 in. device last and current gen, so current gen ports are far more interesting to look at. Sigh My point is Digital Foundary isn't pandering, it just happens to be what has came out.
The real pizza boy Really enjoying the PC focused content, DF. Keep it up Really enjoying the XboxOne focused content, DF. Keep it up Really enjoying the XboxOneX focused content, DF. Keep it up Really enjoying the Nintendo Switch focused content, DF. Keep it up Really enjoying the multi format comparison focused content, DF. Keep it up Really enjoying a boringly repetitive little parrot in the comments, The Real Pizza Boy... Keep it up!
I think it's good that these kinds are options are available for console games. Now if they can only release an on disc compilation of the original 4 Star Ocean games for the PS4... ... Star Ocean First Departure, Star Ocean Second Evolution, Star Ocean Til the End of Time, Star Ocean The Last Hope
Revolutionary, in years to come all console games will be more dynamic like this in terms of settings. As a pc gamer and a ps4 Pro owner i honestly think rise of the tomb raider on ps4 Pro at 4k looked better than my pc ultra settings at 1080p and I preferred it on console. Pc gaming can be a faff sometimes, consoles nine times out of ten is just a much smoother overall experience
Great video as always! It's pretty cool seeing these kind of options on consoles. While I don't need 60 fps it's nice to have the option on consoles for once.
I love it; I personally tried playing the xbox 360 version, and never got too far due to massive frame drops and movement being horrific. I now have it on my ps4 pro, and it's not only more enjoyable, but being able to pick out whatever settings I want, at whatever time I want, is just simply amazing. My first thoughts when I saw all of the different options as well were similar to yours: "Wow, it's like a pc game!". It adds customization, and caters to both players who want performance, as well as players who want stunning visuals.
On 4k with shadow buffer on 4x, camera blur and depth of field off, and medium on the character display distance setting, I still get stable performance so far. I'm still early in the game, and very rarely do I get stuttering, mostly during cutscenes when it does happen. I have only had it happen 3 times so far. And I haven't had that blindside problem at all. Overall I'm very happy with this remaster. And I'm happy they gave us the extra options.
I really hope graphic options become standard. With a lot of people (me included) that think aiming for 4k is a waste of resources, giving the player choices is the best for everyone in my opinion 😃
Honestly, i don't have a 4K TV or Monitor and i don't have plans in order to get one duo to the reason that i still see 1080p enough to enjoy my games, and even my own PS5 is hooked up to my native 1080p TV and i didn't upgrade that either so, maybe 4 years from now, i would consider doing that but, for now, i don't see the need to do so
Ultra HD is the best balance overall on pro. Looks fantastic and it still have good fps. It's way too choppy to use 4k. Depth of field can be skipped as well as camera blur(I actually dislike camera blur). Medium range for enemies is good enough and x4 shadows is actually pretty nice to have as well as seeing enviromental shadows on character models. Looks great!
As mentioned thou, if you want the fps to always be stable then go 1080. When there is a million effects on battle the game can struggle a little bit unless its 1080. This game was a little too ambitious for its time. Same thing with The Last Remnant
If I get out anything from video game comments sections on the internet, it's that everybody has different priorities when it comes to visual fidelity. Having graphics options in console games should be encouraged and rewarded.
Just got this game on the PlayStation Store at a discount (also got it on Steam and even got the original Xbox 360 version on the Microsoft Store). At version 1.03 running on the base PS4, the beginning of the game runs well at the top settings except for the character display distance, which I suspect is the only setting that taxes the CPU more than it does the GPU. I brought it down to "near" to reduce stuttering to the minimum. I'll see how it fares in more intensive areas.
There is. I scrolled the comments looking for someone to mention this. You can turn them off all together or set them on and off with the options button.
I'm actually glad they give you many options to play with so you can choose how to enjoy the game. :) Thanks so much for this video, it was very helpful. Also thank fucking god you can change the character portraits to classic. Lol
I don't know if this is the place to ask but, how does depth of field actually work and why is it such a demanding effect? I thought blurring stuff out would be easy.
I get the idea behind selecting framerate, graphics, or resolution. But it's a fixed set of hardware, with a specific amount of (V)RAM, so having texture options is stupid. As is selecting between different types of FXAA, and having all these options but only double buffering. I think three options is all that's needed. One that targets the highest/most stable performance. One that targets the highest resolution. And one that targets the greatest set of graphical effects. Just like MonHun World, only that game needs a framerate cap real bad.
you should have bothered to check the settings menu at the title screen. it allows you to disable the blindside animation. would've been nice to see a 2160p test with those animations disabled.
This is what we need on both the Pro and the X, we have powerful consoles and can't tweak the options like I can on my PC. This is a step in the right direction.
I have this physically on XBox360 and never got around to playing...in mood for it now. After watching this, to see if its worth getting as download remaster on my PS4 Pro or just pop in my ol R2D2 Xbox...I just realized is it playable on the PS5? I just got one a few weeks ago finally...this is such a good video, but I can't help wonder if 4k on with the blur/field of effect WOULDNT suffer on a PS5 compared to PS4 Pro. Anyone try it yet? I'm going to see if it's available for the 5 through PSN now.
I can confirm this game runs consistently with all settings max on PS5, IF you have character render distance set to "medium" instead of "max". Edit: The post-game dips sometimes. Turning off depth of field and lowering the resolution to 1440p makes it consistent again.
I think the options are welcomed it's not too complex either. So I like the idea of being able to run at 60fps at 1080p or even 1440p. I value fps over resolution.
im a sucker for last gen games ported to pc playing in 4k/60fps. vanquish on the pc is amazing and so will be okami hd. keep porting those old ps3/xbox 360/wii games to pc, they must be preserved and experienced in the best quality they can be.
Its an easy answer....Yes its great especially when there is constant complaining about not having the options. And its not a distraction once you either watch this video or figure out what works perfect for you to adjust accordingly before game play. The art design is beautiful so just at 1080p and a bit of AA the game looks perfect.
Is there any other games like this? i mean from other console they remake it into pc? I finished playing Star Ocean The Last Hope and its the best game i ever played!
I feel like not enough mention is given to the PC version. It's the first time a Star Ocean game has been released on PC. Back when I was a kid my friends and I used to play Star Ocean: Till the End of Time on PS2. We all loved it. Some years later and one of my friends got a PS3, the other got a 360 and I got a rather cheap PC which I could also use for doing homework and stuff. I haven't bothered with consoles since and I've always wanted something like this to come to PC. I've seen a few bugs but nothing game breaking (just need to limit the framerate to 60fps). I'm guessing a framerate comparison won't happen either. My PC gets 144fps at 1080p and I need to limit it to 60fps using software (game speeds up at higher framerates), but I get some occasional stutters in the game. Of course, I'm not using the same PC I used way back then.
Probably not needed to have all the extra options. 4K was silly to target but I totally get that Sony was probably pressuring for it. I personally would like to trim it down to 4 options: High Resolution and Quality High Quality High Resolution and then the ability on-top of those modes to cap it at 30fps or 60fps
Yeah, this is the right way of doing things, but there are 3 major problems, there is an FPS counter? without it, how can I measure the impact of my settings? PS4 Pro don't support 2560x1440 output, so 2560x1440 option don't look like a good option, and why don't include an FPS cap setting?
Wouldn't it be advantageous to have option screens like this on consoles? Or like a simplified mode with presets like we have already, and then let players modify things as they choose? It's neat.
James: Shit Mike. We forgot to hide the graphics settings on the PS4 version and its the last day. Bob: Ah shit its our last day. Just roll with it. PR Department: Yasssssssssss!
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DigitalFoundry Big fan of your Work 😎
Awesome work guys, Would love more games on console to get more settings like this.
AND TO BE HONES the game already looked awsome on PS3 the "International Edition"
I love you videos. Keep going on. Im waiting for more DF Retro content.
And some other technical analysis, maybe Rocket League on Switch, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and some PS VR content too.
Nice videos again.
so 1080p is dead resolution now? how the game performs at PS4 pro at 1080p with max settings?
These settings are a blessing on PS5, making this PS4 release as good as if it were a native PS5 app.
How strange for a Japanese game to have a full options menu on console, when on PC Japanese titles are notorious for having a severe lack of them.
Oh, it is on PC as well. Still, the point stands.
kinda bizzare, right ?
William Fenton FF XIV does that too
William Fenton
Last I checked they're PS4 fanboys over there, no joke they love the Playstation over there so it's not surprising to see them favour Playstation over other platforms.
Jon made the point that it’s signature to triace
+Matheus Viana FF XIV is also a Japanese game.
I don't like Star Ocean very much but I do respect the availability of these settings. I would like to see these settings in all games on all platforms
It's an OLD game ffs. Who cares if it offers 2009 PC options, lol. The ONLY reason it does is because it's OLD and they tested the console and found they could run it at 2009 PC settings, so they put the options in. They most definitely will NOT be offering PC settings in modern games. Bravo PS4, you can match a 2009 PC, lmao.
Dude, Star Ocean: Second Story on PS1 and Til The End of Time on PS2 are easily some of my favorite early RPGs. I get why it's not for everyone though!
adamaj
The game requires a GTX960 (fairly high-end 2015 card) and an i5 4670 (very high-end 2013 CPU) to run somewhat reliably at maxed settings on a PC. The PS4 is roughly matching a 2014 PC as is expected. You can't find a 2009 build that could run a game at unstable 60fps 4k with these shaders, especially since DX11 didn't even exist until 2011.
There's no point bashing budget gaming machines--whether they're consoles or budget PCs--just because they're slightly behind. While they never live up to hype, they always slightly exceed reasonable expectations.
Wow, the pc vs console war is still going on? Must be the only thing people have to hang onto these days. Let it go kids, it's just video games. It's time to grow up.
Syuna
Yes, but you can't play uncharted, horizon zero dawn or new mario games on a pc and much more...
Next month Spiderman...
Never thought I'd see a Star Ocean game here, definitely one of my favorite RPG franchises.
Great job on covering the game John, loved it!
A note for those wanting to play this one on that Steam Deck. Proton 7.0 just recently got updated and even though it’s listed as unsupported, it works perfectly fine now.
I hope more devs will do this for their games on console
Admyr 6 and add a fps counter
GL it's more eassy for them to not do it.
It's an OLD game ffs. Who cares if it offers 2009 PC options, lol. The ONLY reason it does is because it's OLD and they tested the console and found they could run it at 2009 PC settings, so they put the options in. They most definitely will NOT be offering PC settings in modern games. Bravo PS4, you can match a 2009 PC, lmao.
adamaj do you copy and paste your comment on everyone's comments
Me too. All console games need this. Every possible option to get the most possible frame-rate and least possible input lag (incl. removing V-SYNC).
TRI-ACE!!!! OH PLEASE REMAKE/REMASTER VALKYRIE PROFILE 2!!!
On a side note: I'm glad they remastered this game, and bumped up the quality! I really enjoyed this game.
Now this remaster should be very interesting on PS5.
I've just completed it yesterday on PS5. 4K is 60 fps constantly. It's SO good!
@@themscloud with what settings?
I wish John would do a new video on the PS5. 🥰
I just started playing the game yesterday on the PS5 and it's amazing how well the PS3 remaster looks and performs on the PS5.
I last played SO4 on PS3 in 2010 and I'm very impressed with how good the game looks 13 years later, at first glance you might think it's a current PS5 game.
The only things that tri-ace could have improved would be antialiasing and an auto-save / quick-save function would have been nice.
Unfortunately, the whole thing shows how good it would have been if Sony had developed a PS3 emulator for the PS5, then we could now play Metal Gear Solid 4, MotorStorm, Killzone and Resistance in a similar quality.
It's also a pity that tri-ace's idea of implementing PC-like settings in a console game wasn't adopted by other developers. It would be nice to be able to play games like A Plague Tale Requiem on PS6 in the future at 120 FPS.
@@mrc247 it wasn't on ps3
@@bensmith5288 Of course, the game is also available on the PS3.
Remember nights after college blasting and grinding through this on 360, a truly underated gem.
More developers should do this. There is no reason to not give us the options.
LOTDL Fanboy Actually..there is a reason.. its bcz of the optimization.. one of th best benefits of console gaming is you dont have to worry about the settings.. developers chose the best settings for you to provide the most stable experience they can..the extra optimiszation for a particular set of settings in turn allows games to run much better than they would if they ran on a pc with equivalent specs.. so while it seems beneficial to have these settings..trust me..console gaming is better off without it
I think that's what the default options are for, with the ability to change it tucked away in a settings tab. Someone can play the whole game and not even know the graphics options exist, but people who prefer a smoother experience, or someone who wants a higher resolution at 30fps are also catered to.
That being said, when people do want to change these settings, constantly popping in and out to change things to make sure it's performant is a headache (to be fair this also applies to PC). Thats where presets come in. Nioh had a 'gameplay mode' and 'movie mode' which is a single flip of a switch to get both sides of the performance / graphics coin. That would make things a lot easier, with custom tweaking options hidden behind a drop down to avoid clutter. Maybe integrate this independent of resolution as well, for example performance mode at 1920 compared to 4k would dynamically change settings for best performance in relation to each respective resolution,
Steven Walther And thats why i think the recent trend of offering a quality and a high frame rate mode is good.. but dealing with all the setting is a little cumbersome.. im a pc gamer.. so i basically know how it feels.. you end up spending a lot of time tweaking the setting.. it takes you away from the gameplay experience.. so i still think consoles shouldn't have full fledged pc like graphics options.. but i could very well be wrong
Tweaking takes a minute or so at most. Its not rocket science.
DatGrunt It's okay to have an opinion.. but from my personal experinece..i can easily say its distracting.. and basically the puprose of console gaming is to simply plug and play.. not having to worry about these things is one of the reasons i have a console along with my pc
4years later and these kind of options are still not a standard. That's a shame. It's always great to see developers making these kind of options available.
I love this option! This is how you satisfy everyone
I want 4K remaster of Star Ocean: Till the End of Time.
A update graphic of 3 and would be the best star ocean ever
@UnknownEX honestly the shitty dub is one of my favorite aspects of that game. Also cliffs voice is perfect
I pray more devs look at this release and let the user decide what settings they want on or off and become the new standard with their menus. More 60 fps game too! - a non console user
More games should have this as an optional thing! It gives freedom to players to choose how they want to see their game
That's a pretty ironic thing for you to say
Jun Kurosu How so? God gifted us with free will, so it's actually not ironic at all.
So cute..to think that you have free will
Please explain how we don't?
It's really nice to see a developer implement PC settings in a console title. Hopefully this becomes the norm in the coming future. Doesn't hurt to have options. Awesome video DF!
No. I hope this doesn’t become the norm. It’s ridiculous. The hardware is fixed, there is no reason for graphics toggles. Optimise and balance the experience.
Consoles are consoles. Plus & Play. No fuss. Not ‘tweak graphics settings for half an hour’.
Maximum games should have are the menu toggles for resolution/frame rate priority. And hopefully those things vanish when next gen systems ship.
It kind of already is happening with many console games offering more options then what they got in the past but this is the first time I've seen a game offer the full PC set of options.
lilDeviant
"tweak graphics settings for half an hour"
Are you actually an infant? Tweaking graphics settings takes like 1-2 minutes.
BORK MORK Are you? It takes seconds to tweak, yes. And then off you go to play the game to see if the frame rate is stable.. does the game provide a frame rate counter? How can we gauge the impact on a console. This means trial and error, tweak, test... tweak some more. Did draw distance just cause that frame drop in combat? Or was it textures.
It’s not a PC. And consoles are flying far too close to PC territory that they are shedding everything that sets them apart.
Having options is fine. But these kinds of settings are designed for *variable* hardware configurations. Not fixed ones. If a setting doesn’t work well on the console then it’s NEVER going to work well -so whys it there?
lilDeviant You can still have plug-play and an bigger options menu for the visuals.
With people who dont care for settings they can play it with the default visual settings while people who wanna better frame rate or a better picture they can tweek the game a bit.
Really enjoying the Playstation focused content, DF. Keep it up.
Oh great you are back
I mean to be fair to everyone (at least on the Xbox side of things) what exclusives have come out besides Forza Horizon 7 worth looking at. On the Nintendo side of things all you have is xenoblade 2 (they've already looked at odyssey). The switch at least has the advantage of being a handheld console running full console titles on a 7 in. device last and current gen, so current gen ports are far more interesting to look at.
Sigh My point is Digital Foundary isn't pandering, it just happens to be what has came out.
The real pizza boy
Really enjoying the PC focused content, DF. Keep it up
Really enjoying the XboxOne focused content, DF. Keep it up
Really enjoying the XboxOneX focused content, DF. Keep it up
Really enjoying the Nintendo Switch focused content, DF. Keep it up
Really enjoying the multi format comparison focused content, DF. Keep it up
Really enjoying a boringly repetitive little parrot in the comments, The Real Pizza Boy...
Keep it up!
I feel like he's playing into the joke.
Finally blurring the lines between pc and console.
This is pretty cool for a remaster neat stuff.
Every game should have settings like this. We should have the freedom to play games how we like it. We're buying the game not the
creators
ScumbagOkami get a pc
then get a pc...
zarif PC or console it shouldn't matter.
I think it's good that these kinds are options are available for console games.
Now if they can only release an on disc compilation of the original 4 Star Ocean games for the PS4...
... Star Ocean First Departure, Star Ocean Second Evolution, Star Ocean Til the End of Time, Star Ocean The Last Hope
Love how the PS5 is able to brute force this game via backwards compatibility and attains 60fps at 4K with all settings max.
It runs great with every option on in 4K on ps5.
Awesome
Revolutionary, in years to come all console games will be more dynamic like this in terms of settings. As a pc gamer and a ps4 Pro owner i honestly think rise of the tomb raider on ps4 Pro at 4k looked better than my pc ultra settings at 1080p and I preferred it on console. Pc gaming can be a faff sometimes, consoles nine times out of ten is just a much smoother overall experience
Would be cool to see DF revist this on the PS5
Gonna replay this on PS5, guess you can run with max settings on that.
Yep
My cousin told me that the blind side effect still stutters on ps5 a little bit with full options. Ill have to judge for myself though when I get one.
Great video as always! It's pretty cool seeing these kind of options on consoles. While I don't need 60 fps it's nice to have the option on consoles for once.
Any test on if the PS5 fixes 60fps max settings?
Now the The Last Hope to be played with no complaints.
I love it; I personally tried playing the xbox 360 version, and never got too far due to massive frame drops and movement being horrific. I now have it on my ps4 pro, and it's not only more enjoyable, but being able to pick out whatever settings I want, at whatever time I want, is just simply amazing. My first thoughts when I saw all of the different options as well were similar to yours: "Wow, it's like a pc game!". It adds customization, and caters to both players who want performance, as well as players who want stunning visuals.
Even though the pro can't hit 60fps with everything maxed, a future PS console may be able to so it's great that these options exist.
& that console is the PS5 🙌
I would definitely love to see these settings in other games and hopefully if this remaster sells well we will get Lost Odyssey as well
Some special effects on ps4 are missing. Like edge's, myuria's and arumat's normal attack effects are missing. Hoping for an update
finally video settings on consoles ! I don't have a current gen one but good for you guys (and us on pc too, we'll get better ports that way too)
I'd love to see this game analyzed for the PS5. I bet it performs well!
I like these options honestly. Letting us choose how we want to play the game.
Wow what a great release from Triace, I’m definitely picking up this one.
SETTING Recommendations you mentioned just made this channel very valuable. Like Nintendo Power valuable.
Guy can anyone help me out? Is this game digital only on the PS4 or did it have a physical release?
Digital only
@@armaansandhu3206 Aw man that sucks but thanks for the answer!
Been playing on PS5 runs flawlessly with every set to on and max resolution
I'd like to see how this game performs on the highest settings on the PS5.
i tested it on ps5 on max settings and ran at a rock solid 60fps with no more framedrops
@@Epilogic I'm definitely looking forward to running this on my PS5. I know it's beautiful.
This is legitimate useful in my opinion. I love having these choices for my console games!
Saw this pop up on my timeline again, and it has me wondering if this game would be able to play at 4K max settings on PS5 without any hitches
It plays wonderful on PS5
@@Zenzuu I actually got a PS5 a few months ago, thanks for the reminder to try it out xD
Congrats on getting the PS5. 😄 Enjoy the game buddy. I literally just finished this on PS5 not that long ago. @@HybridAngelZero
i hope the slowdown for blindsiding has bean corrected for the pc release as well as the outer problems he mentioned.
DF revist on PS5?
On 4k with shadow buffer on 4x, camera blur and depth of field off, and medium on the character display distance setting, I still get stable performance so far.
I'm still early in the game, and very rarely do I get stuttering, mostly during cutscenes when it does happen. I have only had it happen 3 times so far.
And I haven't had that blindside problem at all. Overall I'm very happy with this remaster. And I'm happy they gave us the extra options.
By stable, I mean no stuttering. I don't know how to measure it the way you did, though. Lol
It's a port from the 360 version? Does that mean it misses the extra content from the PS3 version?
I really hope graphic options become standard. With a lot of people (me included) that think aiming for 4k is a waste of resources, giving the player choices is the best for everyone in my opinion 😃
Honestly, i don't have a 4K TV or Monitor and i don't have plans in order to get one duo to the reason that i still see 1080p enough to enjoy my games, and even my own PS5 is hooked up to my native 1080p TV and i didn't upgrade that either
so, maybe 4 years from now, i would consider doing that but, for now, i don't see the need to do so
It’s a good thing they did these settings cause it’s great on ps5 now
I know nobody else will ever do this... but everybody should do this
you i want more games to be like this it gives you a way to play a game the way you want it to run and look.
Ultra HD is the best balance overall on pro. Looks fantastic and it still have good fps. It's way too choppy to use 4k. Depth of field can be skipped as well as camera blur(I actually dislike camera blur). Medium range for enemies is good enough and x4 shadows is actually pretty nice to have as well as seeing enviromental shadows on character models. Looks great!
As mentioned thou, if you want the fps to always be stable then go 1080. When there is a million effects on battle the game can struggle a little bit unless its 1080.
This game was a little too ambitious for its time. Same thing with The Last Remnant
If I get out anything from video game comments sections on the internet, it's that everybody has different priorities when it comes to visual fidelity. Having graphics options in console games should be encouraged and rewarded.
Nice video, as always
First time in console,it's good to see that options in consoles.
They should have added an 30/60 fps option!
Great in-depth video.
Just got this game on the PlayStation Store at a discount (also got it on Steam and even got the original Xbox 360 version on the Microsoft Store).
At version 1.03 running on the base PS4, the beginning of the game runs well at the top settings except for the character display distance, which I suspect is the only setting that taxes the CPU more than it does the GPU. I brought it down to "near" to reduce stuttering to the minimum. I'll see how it fares in more intensive areas.
This needs a re-test on next gen consoles.
Every game should be like this.
Resonance of fate remaster was amazing, I really want to See valkyrie profile 2 to get the zodiac age treatment from Square...
I would love to see Valkyrie Profile make a come back.
Great to see a console game offers options,
I'm sure there is an option to remove blindside animations, I'll check later.
There is. I scrolled the comments looking for someone to mention this. You can turn them off all together or set them on and off with the options button.
I'm actually glad they give you many options to play with so you can choose how to enjoy the game. :) Thanks so much for this video, it was very helpful. Also thank fucking god you can change the character portraits to classic. Lol
I love the fact that this game came to PC. Amazing!
I don't know if this is the place to ask but, how does depth of field actually work and why is it such a demanding effect? I thought blurring stuff out would be easy.
Loved this one SO4 was my favourite SO game.
I love you Tri-Ace and please do Star Ocean 6 proper justice! Maze of Tribulations theme fk yesss
I get the idea behind selecting framerate, graphics, or resolution. But it's a fixed set of hardware, with a specific amount of (V)RAM, so having texture options is stupid. As is selecting between different types of FXAA, and having all these options but only double buffering.
I think three options is all that's needed. One that targets the highest/most stable performance. One that targets the highest resolution. And one that targets the greatest set of graphical effects. Just like MonHun World, only that game needs a framerate cap real bad.
you should have bothered to check the settings menu at the title screen. it allows you to disable the blindside animation. would've been nice to see a 2160p test with those animations disabled.
This is what we need on both the Pro and the X, we have powerful consoles and can't tweak the options like I can on my PC. This is a step in the right direction.
I have this physically on XBox360 and never got around to playing...in mood for it now. After watching this, to see if its worth getting as download remaster on my PS4 Pro or just pop in my ol R2D2 Xbox...I just realized is it playable on the PS5? I just got one a few weeks ago finally...this is such a good video, but I can't help wonder if 4k on with the blur/field of effect WOULDNT suffer on a PS5 compared to PS4 Pro. Anyone try it yet? I'm going to see if it's available for the 5 through PSN now.
Old comment but I'm trying it right now. Let me know if you're still curious
I can confirm this game runs consistently with all settings max on PS5, IF you have character render distance set to "medium" instead of "max".
Edit: The post-game dips sometimes. Turning off depth of field and lowering the resolution to 1440p makes it consistent again.
have the game both on steam and ps5.
was planning to play on ps5 but thank you about the post game. I will play on steam.
We are nearing 2018, yet still some games tend to use a duble buffered vertical synchronization. Any ideas on why?
I think the options are welcomed it's not too complex either. So I like the idea of being able to run at 60fps at 1080p or even 1440p. I value fps over resolution.
im a sucker for last gen games ported to pc playing in 4k/60fps. vanquish on the pc is amazing and so will be okami hd. keep porting those old ps3/xbox 360/wii games to pc, they must be preserved and experienced in the best quality they can be.
these extra settings stuff should be the future of Remasters on consoles from now on.
Where is Nioh PC video ?
The only issue the game has that it does not have proper keyboard and mouse support.
They add mouse and keyboard support last Monday with a patch
Yea true. I did not even know that until now. I stopped playing a week ago because I was planning to buy gamepad later to play it
why cant i find this game on amazon for ps4
Digital only on PSN store
Its an easy answer....Yes its great especially when there is constant complaining about not having the options. And its not a distraction once you either watch this video or figure out what works perfect for you to adjust accordingly before game play. The art design is beautiful so just at 1080p and a bit of AA the game looks perfect.
I think the availability of settings is good, especially if you can crank everything up to max with 60 fps at 1080.
Is there any other games like this? i mean from other console they remake it into pc? I finished playing Star Ocean The Last Hope and its the best game i ever played!
I feel like not enough mention is given to the PC version. It's the first time a Star Ocean game has been released on PC. Back when I was a kid my friends and I used to play Star Ocean: Till the End of Time on PS2. We all loved it. Some years later and one of my friends got a PS3, the other got a 360 and I got a rather cheap PC which I could also use for doing homework and stuff. I haven't bothered with consoles since and I've always wanted something like this to come to PC. I've seen a few bugs but nothing game breaking (just need to limit the framerate to 60fps).
I'm guessing a framerate comparison won't happen either. My PC gets 144fps at 1080p and I need to limit it to 60fps using software (game speeds up at higher framerates), but I get some occasional stutters in the game.
Of course, I'm not using the same PC I used way back then.
Why does this game look better than Star Ocean 5? @_@
I find it unlikely that someone watching this video will dislike the ability to switch between different settings.
Probably not needed to have all the extra options.
4K was silly to target but I totally get that Sony was probably pressuring for it.
I personally would like to trim it down to 4 options:
High Resolution and Quality
High Quality
High Resolution
and then the ability on-top of those modes to cap it at 30fps or 60fps
What's the racing game shown at the beginning?
I can't wait to see how this runs on PS5.
It runs very good. 60 fps with everything maxed and 4K resolution :)
This is good to teach those on consoles how on PC games you have graphical options. Just in case they might not know or be aware of.
i'm impressed with this port
Man that video compression..
Yeah, this is the right way of doing things, but there are 3 major problems, there is an FPS counter? without it, how can I measure the impact of my settings? PS4 Pro don't support 2560x1440 output, so 2560x1440 option don't look like a good option, and why don't include an FPS cap setting?
Watching this video at 240p, can't see the difference
The 360 version was amazing in my eyes
This needs to be done on all console games, push it.
I enjoy the 1080@60, 4k@30 option on pro/oneX, that's all.
Wouldn't it be advantageous to have option screens like this on consoles? Or like a simplified mode with presets like we have already, and then let players modify things as they choose? It's neat.
James: Shit Mike. We forgot to hide the graphics settings on the PS4 version and its the last day.
Bob: Ah shit its our last day. Just roll with it.
PR Department: Yasssssssssss!
What settings should I use if I'm on a PRO and using a 1080p tv?