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raiding as spriest in retail vs classic

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 พ.ค. 2023
  • started playing shadow priest on wrath, and remembered how much more complicated they had made it on retail. hope you enjoy
    A lot of people wanted me to continue the series, but in order to i will have to use clips from other people, as i do not have every class max on vanilla/wrath/retail. Do you guys think this is an okay way to continue? I figured it might be ok if i credit the people involved, as it is kind of the norm in wow community to react andy to other peoples content already
    credit for clips used
    Tempr: / @temprtv
    JacklgoeTv: / @jackigoetv
    DannyGaminGnC: / @dannygamingnc
    Kirbstomp: / @kirbstomp8041

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  • @Ross_2312
    @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว +176

    A lot of people wanted me to continue the series, but in order to do so, i will have to use clips from other people, as i do not have every class max on vanilla/wrath/retail. Do you guys think this is an okay way to continue? I figured it might be ok if i credit the people involved, as it is kind of the norm in wow community to react andy to other peoples content already. I appreciate all of the support on my recent videos, especially in this series. I am not a very skilled video editor/creator, i started making pvp montages for fun. With the recent support i have been working to learn and improve, any advice on how to go about that would be appreciated.
    Any other suggestions for this series/other videos you would like to see feel free to let me know. I only recently started up wow again, playing hardcore classic, but have been dabbling a bit on retail and recently wrath. Wrath has been the most fun, if you would like to see any content from those let me know.

    • @mcnultygaming
      @mcnultygaming ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yeah dude, just ask the video takers permission should be fine

    • @ramaron
      @ramaron ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think it's fine, you don't just copy and past their video, but use the clip to create something new + most WoW player would probably find your video hilarious anyway

    • @Heron11177
      @Heron11177 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It would be awesome to compare to other expansions, other classics

    • @ilbertipt
      @ilbertipt ปีที่แล้ว

      Legion DH vs Retail DH is unbelievable

    • @PeaceJaime123
      @PeaceJaime123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is amazing

  • @ddenozor
    @ddenozor ปีที่แล้ว +821

    I like how in both damage meters, they are at bottom.

    • @ihalia
      @ihalia ปีที่แล้ว +41

      i dunno about wrath but in DF, you can't judge a dps on their 20 seconds opener with bl/pot/PIs. Kazzara (the boss fight in df) is a 5minutes+ fight pure st. Trust me when i say that the dmg metter will be completely different from what u see on the opener once the boss dies. I'm a ret paladin and at the opener I hardly do 160k dps while everyone else is doing 300k. At the end of the fight though, I'll finish with 110-120 whe everyone else will be at 100-110. SP is like ret, they have sustain ST dmg, not burst like most specs.

    • @riddert4966
      @riddert4966 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Spriest strong af in DF atm tho lol

    • @Overflowinng
      @Overflowinng ปีที่แล้ว +2

      both?
      only in wrath

    • @stevenhuang9169
      @stevenhuang9169 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Spriest is T1 in Ulduar now, I don't know what u talking about

    • @buttsmcgee50
      @buttsmcgee50 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ihalia no you don't. Ret is fucking garbage on ST.

  • @bosssavage3325
    @bosssavage3325 ปีที่แล้ว +241

    The best part of this is they’re both on the bottom of the dps meter

    • @Ayayron_e3
      @Ayayron_e3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To be fair the guy playing classic was clipping flay like a mf..

    • @shadowpriest2574
      @shadowpriest2574 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ayayron_e3 pretty sure that is what you are supposed to do tho.

    • @Ayayron_e3
      @Ayayron_e3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shadowpriest2574 you're supposed to clip at the tick of the 2nd damage tick of flay unless you know it's beneficial to use a whole flay. This guy is not doing any of that.

    • @shadowpriest2574
      @shadowpriest2574 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ayayron_e3 Why is it beneficial to clip at the second tick?

    • @Ayayron_e3
      @Ayayron_e3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shadowpriest2574 because you don't ever really want to flay all 3 ticks, just 2 and recast. It works out to you doing more dps than doing 3 and losing time waiting for the 1st tick on the 2nd flay

  • @ghozter1
    @ghozter1 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Lmao, I don't think anything can beat the clips of the guy sweating his ass off smashing keys vs the just vibing singing Payphone 😂

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Agreed, didn’t necessarily want to copy paste the same thing so tried to do this one a little different. I would like to bring back those two in future if i have a good enough idea for it

    • @Kenji-117
      @Kenji-117 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Halondrus melees vs ranges in comparison LMAOOO

    • @biigsmokee
      @biigsmokee หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Ross_2312it's exactly the same thing though but with worse clips lol

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@biigsmokee 😂

  • @jonwahlstrm478
    @jonwahlstrm478 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Wrath leaves you enough mental space to sing and have a good time, clear winner 🔨

    • @chukky1124
      @chukky1124 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      so does retail lol... wrath is just to relaxe and not look for a challenge. were many get the satisfaction of pushing your limits. everyone has fun in their own way...

    • @gmarley4402
      @gmarley4402 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@chukky1124 cope

    • @jointser1008
      @jointser1008 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@gmarley4402 he is right tho

    • @seanmurphy7953
      @seanmurphy7953 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chukky1124 that's why arena exists

    • @siegemakerYT
      @siegemakerYT ปีที่แล้ว

      That tends to be the opinion of people that didn't actually raid back then

  • @KingJerbear
    @KingJerbear ปีที่แล้ว +83

    As someone new to World of Warcraft (just tried out the game with the recent HC classic hype) I really love these videos. Retail looks fun too in it's own way but I just really enjoy the lack of gear and power in the classic game so far. Keep it up!

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thank you!! Retail is fun, I think all versions have things they do well. You should give it a try sometime if you get bored. Honestly lately wrath classic has been the most fun, after hopping between classic, wrath, and retail. I feel like wrath is a decent middle ground between the two, especially for a newer player. Im not one of those people who pick a side and hate the other, i like all things wow

    • @7128jml
      @7128jml ปีที่แล้ว +8

      If i could have classic experience with the retail graphics I'd love the game again

    • @macre8389
      @macre8389 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@7128jml but you can if you max out the video settings.

    • @aufkeinsten7883
      @aufkeinsten7883 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah I got kinda hyped for Classic HC but the end game is just so dead.. Once you've progressed mythic on retail the game just feels hella dull in the old expansions. I love this video series, but in all honesty if you put your mind to playing a class (like I did with SP for a while), the retail rotation really isn't INSANELY complex, it's just something that takes time to master, and I find that a lot of fun. Meanwhile, most top DPS classes in wrath (let alone classic lol) have like a 3 button rotation, bar Enha maybe.. It's unfortunate, as I really love the old expansions

  • @That_Man_Ski
    @That_Man_Ski ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I think you have a great idea in your head and you just need the resources for your idea to come out. I don’t mind watching other players clips as long as you keep that humor coming! 🎉

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you! I am working to improve quality I appreciate the feedback and support ♥️

  • @enigmabis.
    @enigmabis. ปีที่แล้ว +29

    looks like hes having more fun in classic

    • @billymays9296
      @billymays9296 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Depends on the player. I personally don't have any fun whatsoever if I'm not being challenged by the fights, which no fights before Cata ever did, and it didn't even start ramping up much by then either.
      I was raiding in TBC Classic as a Resto Shaman, never having to move and spamming 1-2 buttons over and over again, I quit after one raid because I nearly died of boredom.

    • @deenman23
      @deenman23 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      hes just more ''simple minded''

  • @user-kp1xm8zy3m
    @user-kp1xm8zy3m ปีที่แล้ว +7

    can't wait for someone to make a clip like this for elemental shamen retail lightning build vs classic

  • @shawning13
    @shawning13 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    i dont care what anyone says but i will die on the hill that legion shadow priest was the best RAID designed spec ever made. it did feel awful in open world content due to everything dying before voidform was of any real worth but man did surrender to madness feel amazing. nothing made my heart pump faster than doing xavius, high botanist, or honestly any fight with surrender to madness. hitting that sweet sweet 100 stacks along with the 3rd void torrent was truly special. i actually broke my naga side buttons because of how much i was spamming due to the insanely low GCD at the time. for high botanist on heroic i actually solo clutched the last 7% with vampiric embrace and dispersion with my VT doing 5-7mil crits a tick it really.
    something about the true high risk(insta death and no brez for 3 mins if executed wrong) and high reward(pretty much doing double the dps of 2nd place) of surrender to madness felt like heaven. i will say though i thoroughly enjoyed MoP and BFA spriest of a chill ramp up and consistent DPS as opposed to most classes who do 90% of their damage in their 20 sec burst window. although it was fun melting people with 3 orb mind flay insanity back in mop. shadowlands was decent and atleast we were pretty good AoE dps with searing nightmare/mindbender cleave along with nightfae making VF lower CD.

    • @MrTreefrog98
      @MrTreefrog98 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You nailed the feeling of s2m. I have never practiced a rotation on a dummy so much to try to get a consistent third void torrent. So thrilling to play. So so so much fun

    • @bighouse581
      @bighouse581 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "Then you die. Horribly." Surrender was such a fun ability

    • @uogolnieniinni3631
      @uogolnieniinni3631 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      s2m was peak wow for me

    • @tekamer6566
      @tekamer6566 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Best design? no for sure not they were almost impossible to balance.
      Most fun ? YES YES YES.

    • @Sammysapphira
      @Sammysapphira 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      S2m was literally impossible to balance and broke the game. Your definition of "good design" is unbeleivably skewed.

  • @newergamer7974
    @newergamer7974 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Holy shit the icarly song gave me such a nostalgia hit wtf

  • @jonathanhawken
    @jonathanhawken หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    man early season 2 dragonflight shadowpriest was so fun with void eruption spec and 2min spoils trinket. god it was fun as fuck.

  • @Spanakopitaa
    @Spanakopitaa ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Dragonflight is actually a very nice game.

    • @quetz6335
      @quetz6335 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Too bad the combat feels horrible. Its become way too bloated and spammy and theres no real balance between classes/specs at all.

    • @chukky1124
      @chukky1124 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@quetz6335 there is a Nice balance in pve. and people that play retail love the Fast pace instead of the slow dreadfull wotlk playstyle. and i play both.. but there is no challenge to wotlk what so ever. 3 tactics per boss , the dungeons are not a challenge and the raids are easy as hell compared to retail. the combat feels waaay better then wotlk.

    • @KiiiiDFresH2oo9
      @KiiiiDFresH2oo9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@quetz6335 Actually, its better than ever tbh. Compare it to the last expansions...

    • @jointser1008
      @jointser1008 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@quetz6335 not all classes in retail are like this BM and fury are way more simple

    • @lawlestest
      @lawlestest ปีที่แล้ว +4

      it actually isn't.
      timeless isle 3.0 (zaralek caverns), same old same old... daily reps, worldquests, broken PVP with 2 classes still dominating, every class literally feels the same with some doing more damage where others don't do enough.
      but i guess blizz fans, WoW fans in particular, would eat shit off a golden plate for a 100$ pricetag if it's by blizz.

  • @shadowenergyAI
    @shadowenergyAI หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    opened video just to listen to maroon 5 payphone, instead got introduced to new songs as a bonus.

  • @TheSaltyAdmiral
    @TheSaltyAdmiral 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In all these memes, _one_ thing strikes me: The classic players are always having more fun.
    There might be a lesson in there somewhere.

    • @ZediaWoW
      @ZediaWoW หลายเดือนก่อน

      its pretty easy to cherry pick clips, my guild does nothing but sing and have a laugh on retail, but i can also easily find people malding on classic. just depends on what clips you pick

  • @jonathan13co
    @jonathan13co 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jokes aside that spriest retail rotations isn't even that bad. It flows very well and feels natural after playing the spec for a short amount of time. You always have something to cast, your rotation is spiced a little during execute phases and despite priests having very low mobility, you get just enough instant cast breaks to move where you need to. And also as usual they're OP af by the end of the expansion...

  • @TheOneWhoReportsForDuty
    @TheOneWhoReportsForDuty ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I heard “Void” said so often in one sentence that my brain half died for a sec

    • @endofexistence2149
      @endofexistence2149 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nothing he said on that opener was really hard. People really exaggerate wow spells and rotations. The game is old of course it's going to have more than a version of itself that was played over a decade ago.
      There are only a handful of specs in retail that have complicated openers. The rest just sound tedious but take like less than an hour of training to get down.
      All he did in the retail version was sound more wordy but as a shadow priest player myself the opener barely registers in my mind.
      You also have the option of not doing the pre pull cast since that's really only necessary for top guilds which noone in the comment section is a part of.
      In normal and heroic raiding you can get by just fine without doing the cutting edge stuff.

    • @TheOneWhoReportsForDuty
      @TheOneWhoReportsForDuty 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@endofexistence2149 When did I say the opener was hard?

  • @Blitzcomin
    @Blitzcomin ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this is why retail riding is more fun.

  • @markus1351
    @markus1351 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    the funny thing is,... even the wrath rotation is more complex than many DPS in other games

    • @josedavidmunozmartinez4722
      @josedavidmunozmartinez4722 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I mean, he did Wrath and not vanilla because Vanilla would have a maximum of... 0 buttons because Spriest would never get to raiding xD

  • @josedavidmunozmartinez4722
    @josedavidmunozmartinez4722 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I mean, you really should do a comparison between Hpaladin in Wrath versus Retail hahahah, that would be even more fun 😂😂😂

  • @pkuderov
    @pkuderov 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    well, honestly, I expected to see footage from Muqq's POV for the WotLK part. At that time he was a bit of a legend. In my case, he inspired me to take disc/shadow path for my first WoW character :)
    also, his POVs were a great promotion of the TukUI (ancestor of ElvUI and others) :)

  • @m.moonsie
    @m.moonsie ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am playing for fun. I don't need extra stressful events after logging out from work 🤣

  • @mcrbelieve3923
    @mcrbelieve3923 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    People should realize that retail rotation becomes simple after playing for a while, it's only overwhelming the few first times.
    Like, I can totally sing and talk about whatever while doing a very good rotation, the thing is when you add boss mechanics on top of that, that's where you need to be focused. (unless you did the boss 50 times ofc)

  • @svens.1871
    @svens.1871 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And the spriest in wrath was still more challenging than most other dps specs though

  • @driiifter
    @driiifter ปีที่แล้ว +12

    500 APM and a giga 7 head, A Beautiful Mind, Limitless, Good Will Hunting tier rotation, just to be bottom DPS by tank, nice. Reminds me of Unholy in the start of BFA.

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂

    • @miniman78910
      @miniman78910 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They aren't bottom or anywhere close to tanks. They are 8th or out 14 dps. The other classes just do more of their dps in the opener compared to shadow.

  • @rock_gamer_stig5188
    @rock_gamer_stig5188 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The SPriest in my guild was one of our top DPS for all of wrath lol

  • @sarxeye
    @sarxeye ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tbh as a casual gamer I realy like the wotlk sprirst gamestyle

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I used to try hard and wanted to be “the best.” These days i just don’t care, just want to relax and have a good time playing the game. You can still accomplish that on retail, but at the moment wrath is the most fun for me. I kind of go through phases though and jump around to different game versions.

  • @amandapelland
    @amandapelland ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I LOVE these videos. I laugh so much!

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoy them, anything you want to see next?

    • @amandapelland
      @amandapelland ปีที่แล้ว

      I would love to see other retail vs classic class videos, so incredibly funny because it's true!!

  • @phoenix7289
    @phoenix7289 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Now let's see Paul Allen's shadow priest... pre 7.1 Surrender to Madness Emerald Nightmare raid build 😎

    • @ivyr336
      @ivyr336 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      *plays through fire and flames at 200% speed*

  • @Unf0rget
    @Unf0rget ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Legit resent what's been happening to all my specs and classes since wod. These busy work class designs are just obnoxious.

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      True, i feel like spriest has been hit with it especially hard, I do think its in a "better" place then the past few expansions. I have not played it a ton, just recently started playing it again so can't really speak much on the retail side.

    • @jji7447
      @jji7447 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'll let you in on a little secret: most specs have an easy-mode version that does enuogh damage/healing for the majority of raiding/dungeon content. Leaves the player room to grow, but provides them with a less intensive rotation if they want to go that route.
      For shadow, swap the Void Eruption talent to Dark Ascension.

    • @Unf0rget
      @Unf0rget ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its not a matter of something being hard. Its the busy work and its on the specs I used to like. Either I hate what the class has become like warrior and shaman and/or what it is now is miserable and distant from its original play style like priest across holy and shadow. Those were my classes from vanilla to mop and every time I peek in on an xpack I just cant stomach the idea of how they play. Seeing shadow's talents was crushing in the dragonflight beta.

    • @billymays9296
      @billymays9296 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@Unf0rget nah this is not a good take. As a Retail player I can tell you that even in cata I'm bored when playing due to the slow gameplay and low apm of specs.

    • @Unf0rget
      @Unf0rget 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What do you mean? Cata is when you already have a button every global and haste affects gcd. Its also when button use still meant at least something and abilities had impact instead of doing tickle damage until cds.
      Cata is also when some specs were at their most involved like demology warlock. I am certain that I have loathed every iteration of priest and warrior since legion. When choosing between many nonsense buttons and few yet impactful ones I know where I stand. After being bored of wow for a few years I was surprised by how much returning to vanilla restored my enjoyment. Somehow basic ass raiding was much more fun than retail's min/max ladder.
      Also the main thing about retail isn't bad vs good. Its audience exchange. Retail left the original appeals of wow behind and with each xpack expanded the affected areas. Bit by bit extruding the original audience in exchange for people who like what the game is now. And mmos are so scarce that no alternative really exists. People who like retail aren't in the wrong. Developers are in the wrong for being blind to how they've shoved the game towards an entirely different mix of appeals in their relentless push to try and optimize convenience and player retention.

  • @That_Man_Ski
    @That_Man_Ski ปีที่แล้ว +5

    😂 love this series!!

  • @MrMhtmht
    @MrMhtmht ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Retail is for the triple masked

  • @CJ24million
    @CJ24million ปีที่แล้ว +2

    why he singing the suite life of zack and cody LOOL

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was trying so hard to remember where it was from earlier, then taking a piss it came to me. Pretty sure its iCarly 🤣

  • @kadmodir
    @kadmodir ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Meanwhile fury warriors... R-R-R-RAMPAGE!!!

  • @awestrich2172
    @awestrich2172 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Once folks start expecting you to put a little conveyor belt of abilities on the screen, ima play something else

  • @gamonwillsaveus
    @gamonwillsaveus ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yo didn’t expect to see Danny’s Dakata the shadow priest to be in the vid lmao he’s actually a pretty good spriest especially in pvp

    • @notdn
      @notdn หลายเดือนก่อน

      huhh no lmao

  • @Matg1699
    @Matg1699 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Both are at the bottom of the dps chart, difference is, one of them is doing advanced C++ coding to create a new class just to enjoy the game while the other is drunk and grooving to music while not paying attention.

  • @hobgoblin9339
    @hobgoblin9339 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    explains that the retail rotation is literally 5 buttons. Boomers hear "retail" and immediately cant follow a 5 button rotation.

  • @prodobnoxious
    @prodobnoxious 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Second guy is me in retail on my paladin lmao

  • @Hjortur95
    @Hjortur95 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    isnt this just a 12 step button-by-button opener into keeping your dots rolling, mind blast cycling, and voidform on cooldown

  • @tobi3038
    @tobi3038 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wotlk ele sham best..
    Put down totems
    Pop heroism
    Lightning bolt and Lava burst...
    To infinity and beyond....😎

  • @isaachaywood9629
    @isaachaywood9629 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Too be fair though classic also has a lot of what I like to call "the bullshit" such as like clipping and stuff like that, like canceling your mind flay can be worth it or not worth it depending at what point in the cast you're at etc. definitely don't think its rotation is complicated, but if you don't know things like that you're gonna be trash at the class. and most classic classes have some form of "the bullshit" for example, resto druids 4 set from icc causes your rejuv to have a chance to copy over to a new target at random with a new rejuv, but the copy has a completely different spell id despite having the same name and doing the same thing, and it takes prio over your normal rejuvs in a weird way. The effect of that is that if you try to cast a new rejuv on someone who already has a copy of one on them, it just takes your mana and dosent put a new rejuv on. So if you aren't aware of this and don't get an addon of some kind or a weakaura to specifically display a different icon on health bars for the rejuv, you're just going to suck when you're blanket healing.

  • @rochellepaws
    @rochellepaws 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's ironically simpler and more mindless in retail since everyone just imports a weakaura and follows it without understanding anything about their spec.

  • @LoganH0076
    @LoganH0076 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The best part is that on retail you were still no where near the top dps lol

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Spriest been like that for a while i think. That was the #5 overall parse for the boss too lol

  • @aonirsplayground6224
    @aonirsplayground6224 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The issue with retail is and never was the engaging raiding experience, the surrounding part and the focus on everything to reach ONLY that ending of raiding or pvp is what kills it, wrath was showing the same signs however it was blinded by it being a progressive system and also the content of it being extremely lore heavy and liked.
    Basically have classic hardship of leveling skills, everything with some (if not all) combat mechanics of retail and you get a perfect game, no need to rush to max lvl feeling like its a chore to level and actually hard('ish) encounters making gear worthwhile endeveour.

  • @Mayhem554
    @Mayhem554 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shadow priest is one of the easier rdps specs in retail wow too, massively easier than firemage for example.

  • @christianclark9494
    @christianclark9494 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    *cries in arcane mage*

  • @davidfence6939
    @davidfence6939 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A reminder of why i came back to play Classic and not retail. Raiding was my escape nearly 2 decades ago. Why play some pointlessly over complicated BS when i wanf to relax?

  • @cs.esmaeili
    @cs.esmaeili 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    we need old days

    • @billymays9296
      @billymays9296 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Play Classic then

  • @jani14jani
    @jani14jani ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Guys I quit DF around the end of P1. I played outlaw rogue and as a casual player the APM of a outlaw rogue is too much. And to be honest have no desire to put in the time to master it properly.
    What are the easiest classes for a casual player in retail for p2?

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Prob bm hunter for ranged, mele maybe fury warrior, but they are high apm but you aren’t hitting lot of different buttons

    • @jani14jani
      @jani14jani ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Ross_2312 Thanks! I dusted of my 70lv warrior. Fury seems nice, yes it's pretty high apm (but not nearly as high as outlaw) and I have less buttons to press. Basically just zug-zug and use cooldowns.

    • @aufkeinsten7883
      @aufkeinsten7883 ปีที่แล้ว

      My guy, Sub was better from ~mid P1 anyways and before it was only VERY slightly worse, noticable only in ~21+ keys x)

    • @billymays9296
      @billymays9296 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jani14janithere aren't "phases" in Retail, there are Seasons.

  • @TemprTV
    @TemprTV ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LMFAO this vid was hilarious

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey! I wasn’t sure how to contact you as far as using your content, i hope you dont mind. I have your channel linked in the description. Started playing shadow priest after letting mine collect dust since legion, and your channel has helped me out a lot.

    • @TemprTV
      @TemprTV ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ross_2312 yeah you're totally fine, feel free to use my stuff whenever if something else comes across like this! but I'm glad I've been able to help out even a little bit, thats the goal!

  • @tegg7017
    @tegg7017 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seems actually free

  • @Zola_cero
    @Zola_cero ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love how you have to do all those things in retail and you are doing about 50-75% dmg of top dps

    • @Allihuge
      @Allihuge ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love how you say that based on 30 sec of a 4-5 min fight ...

  • @ZapatosVibes
    @ZapatosVibes 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Should have been vanilla era, even better xD

  • @Cybrok
    @Cybrok ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Arcane

  • @Another_Dusk
    @Another_Dusk 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    DOT master

  • @Pablochette98
    @Pablochette98 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thanks god for paladins

  • @jontopham2742
    @jontopham2742 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shadow priest still have a challenging asymmetrical rotation regardless

    • @aufkeinsten7883
      @aufkeinsten7883 ปีที่แล้ว

      You talking about wrath? Because that shit is anything but challenging mate..

    • @jontopham2742
      @jontopham2742 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aufkeinsten7883 I actually forgot I never played shadow in wrath I switched classes that xpack was hard in bc tho

    • @siedaification
      @siedaification ปีที่แล้ว

      People say it’s not challenging and then do absolutely shiteeeee damage. Spriest rotation is not ez if you are doing it correctly fam

  • @Urothewarrior
    @Urothewarrior ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dakata!!

  • @tomasiarity
    @tomasiarity 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Retail aint so bad compared to other classes: Keep DoTs up, keep big spells on cooldown, use procs and use filler spell. The usual, really.

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I have been playing a bit of both, retail really isnt that crazy. At the time i made this video though, i hadn’t played retail in a while and it was a bit overwhelming trying something besides my main (survival hunter).

  • @vizziiiiob
    @vizziiiiob หลายเดือนก่อน

    The most complex class and build to play with, in era. No raid is completed without one

  • @thevlaka
    @thevlaka ปีที่แล้ว

    3 buttons vs 82178764 buttons

  • @minoxiis3419
    @minoxiis3419 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is why I use hekili

  • @guttiyy
    @guttiyy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Masterpiece🎉

  • @Mukulukku
    @Mukulukku ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Also, everything in retail now feels like a super saiyan poppin off. For some reason, the straight forward rotations from wrath feel more impactful and satisfying to me.

    • @vicsterX
      @vicsterX ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you pat yourself at the back while typing this?

    • @Mukulukku
      @Mukulukku ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vicsterX nope, just stating my opinion. Do you pat yourself at the back for your comment now?

  • @Azrael79a
    @Azrael79a ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've never tried Shadow since Legion, but it really is hard to find a 'simple' DPS class or spec now days. Closest I can find is like Arcane Mage and Destro Lock, but I don't play dps-only classes seriously. I originally thought Ret would be simple and easy, but it still feels kinda complicated to me. I usually just end up tanking as Prot either way. No matter what class or spec I play though, I usually have nearly 3 full bars of abilities I need to have ready and on hand. Which is honestly ridiculous lol. It's fine if that's your main, but I have 1 of every class plus an extra DK and I've only been able to figure out 1 spec on most of them. Sometimes I level up a new character just to learn a spec from scratch lol.

    • @EdgeyStyle
      @EdgeyStyle ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Play hunter bm or MM and you'll see what easy really looks like

    • @Azrael79a
      @Azrael79a ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EdgeyStyle BM is pretty simple, but probably the most buttonmashy ranged dps in the game lol. Practically like playing a melee class. I should level up another hunter as MM. I have all my 70's on one server and then my BM hunter on another, but they're like conjoined servers so it's not worth server transferring lmfao. I just don't feel like switching from one server to the other every time I wanna play them.

    • @xadamx94
      @xadamx94 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      arcane really is not simple in DF. shadwolands was ass but it was peak arcane gameplay tbh

  • @creeperkop1441
    @creeperkop1441 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    name of song ?

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its the icarly theme song

  • @JohnSmith-wx5fl
    @JohnSmith-wx5fl 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yeah but, who looks like they are having more fun?

  • @romanbloomfield9066
    @romanbloomfield9066 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clipping mind flay is the whole reason I love classic spriest. Opens up a lot of skill expression on how well you can clip

  • @n3v3r1s4
    @n3v3r1s4 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    just 😂

  • @mateukole5660
    @mateukole5660 ปีที่แล้ว

    Legit question - is casting full mindflay before applying swp actually dps increase? Back in original wrath the theorycrafting formula was 2 ticks of mindflay to get 5 stacks and then swp.

    • @skyamerico
      @skyamerico ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it is 2 ticks of mindflay, the video is just the simple version for noobies, there is another video with the advanced rotation.

    • @siedaification
      @siedaification ปีที่แล้ว

      As a spriest main, this intro is wrong since t8 4 piece. Your opener is really… mind blast, VT, DP, full tick mind flay, swp, mind blast into word:death, then flay away. If you only do a 2 tick mind flay you have a second of downtime before your 2nd mind blast comes up, instead of it being seemless

    • @ShoesOnTheFeet
      @ShoesOnTheFeet ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@siedaification nah, there is no reason to do a full mind flay. You need 5 stacks of shadow weaving and 2 tick mf is enough for that. On short fights or fights were your target will die fast you can actually put up swp before mindflay and it is a small dps upgrade.

    • @xXTDCXxCaboose
      @xXTDCXxCaboose 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The True Wrath Opener:
      1.Prepot
      2.Mindblast (pre pull)
      3.Shadowfiend
      4.HyperSpeed Accelerators
      5.Vamp Touch
      6.Devouring Plague
      7.Mind Flay 2-tic
      8.Shadow Word: Pain
      9.Inner Fire+Mind Flay 3-tic

  • @Warpgatez
    @Warpgatez ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fucking love it lol.

  • @MikeKey91
    @MikeKey91 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm confused - so what is the complex game version now?

    • @______-nh7ib
      @______-nh7ib 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Retail (dragon flight)

  • @jfklmk13447
    @jfklmk13447 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hahaha love this

  • @sierraj7480
    @sierraj7480 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lol this is easy mode. You gotta look at monk rotation 😂

  • @Buskyb
    @Buskyb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the spriest in classic, tbc the most but i cant stand spriest in retail

  • @1978chrono
    @1978chrono ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i find shadow priest way more fun than mages atm

    • @xadamx94
      @xadamx94 ปีที่แล้ว

      mages are just clunky right now. kinda like tbc

  • @CUSTER69420
    @CUSTER69420 ปีที่แล้ว

    is it just me or did i hear a raze boombot at 1:42 lol

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว

      probably, the video of the guy singing was from a valorant video lmao!

  • @MrInSahne
    @MrInSahne ปีที่แล้ว

    Soundtrack on the beginning?

  • @filipl4567
    @filipl4567 ปีที่แล้ว

    what wa/addon show you prio list at top?

  • @xXShakenXx
    @xXShakenXx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The most unrealistic thing about this is getting accepted into a classic raid as an spriest.

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have had no issues myself

  • @5aiv.
    @5aiv. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i'm not doing all that

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂

  • @user-zn1db9fe5w
    @user-zn1db9fe5w 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:31 and he is last in dps ranking...

  • @msk5992
    @msk5992 ปีที่แล้ว

    who is singing on the 2nd one o.o

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว

      Jackgloetv its in description

  • @seanmurphy7953
    @seanmurphy7953 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    One guy is stressed out trying to make his hourly wage, and the other is off of work chillin with his friends having a good time. There is a clear winner here

    • @chukky1124
      @chukky1124 ปีที่แล้ว

      why stressed out ? ... i play shadow priest and if you know the rotation its piss easy... its harder to play wotlk since people act like its the hardest game these days while the raids and dungeons are easy as hell... i play both and have more fun in retail for the reason stated above...

    • @seanmurphy7953
      @seanmurphy7953 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chukky1124 wotlk is hard because people act like it's hard? Wut

    • @jointser1008
      @jointser1008 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@seanmurphy7953 even ulduar HC isn't hard, however your "hourly wage" is inaccurate it isn't shadowlands anymore there is no such thing like chores

    • @seanmurphy7953
      @seanmurphy7953 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jointser1008 dps rotations like this and 20 boss mechanics a fight say otherwise

    • @jointser1008
      @jointser1008 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seanmurphy7953 except this guy was doing mythic. aberrus NHC is quite simple and 2 bosses are almost tank and spank. the rotastion depends on what you play if you play frost mage in retail then all what you have to do is pressing frostbolt until icy touch or brainfreeze proccs use the proccs and repeat.

  • @alex132788
    @alex132788 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    isn't the 2nd one disc?

  • @grimmjowthepantera
    @grimmjowthepantera ปีที่แล้ว

    Rotation addons are the biggest shit ever ...... from 1-70 i learn my rotation ez .

  • @user-zx6rf4ob8b
    @user-zx6rf4ob8b 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is that shadow priest retail naowh weakaura?

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Im not sure, the retail shadow priest footage was courtesy of tempr his channel is in the description

  • @Syleion
    @Syleion ปีที่แล้ว

    can someone explain, how the hell did demo lock have 300k dps ? I play destro but if someone can teach me to deal as much dps as demo on video, i would gladly try it :D

    • @jji7447
      @jji7447 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not going to be a constant 300k, not even close. He spiked that high early due to Potion+trinkets along with his Demoic Tyrant and probably Nether portal. (Also likely a Power Infusion, Demo is a good target for it.)
      Most specs can/will spike really high on pull or shortly after, since you have everything stacked up all at once. Cooldowns, potions, trinkets, bloodlust, ect.

    • @kohlicoide2258
      @kohlicoide2258 ปีที่แล้ว

      Demo has a extrem strong burst opener (just like unholy) but both Drops after 1 minute on the same lvl just like other dds. Both are actually at the moment "It is way more importent to master your opener then your rotation." (Unholy Main)

  • @Baltr
    @Baltr ปีที่แล้ว

    and then you get t10 4p and you just remove mind blast out of your rotation lmao

  • @psychoangel887
    @psychoangel887 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    and both are doing legit 0 dmg

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Both patches that they were playing in this video spriests were like bottom dps 😂 but when are they not?

  • @LewReviews
    @LewReviews ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am going to say it people can get angry upset it's fine but this is the truth. Wow is more fun when playing half afk 😂 having music on or a second screen and farming is half of wow and having a ez rotation in raids is just way better for the average player who wants to have fun with friends and chill out.

    • @jointser1008
      @jointser1008 ปีที่แล้ว

      You don't have to min max if you play casual tho

  • @thew1ngman
    @thew1ngman ปีที่แล้ว

    Retail isn't hard. It really just boils down to Use damage cooldowns > Use procs > apply dots > use filler. Its just faster paced. If you're trying to min-max an opener, its just a set rotation you need to follow then revert to maintenance.
    Retail is just faster paced but its very mindless.

  • @davidsawyers8754
    @davidsawyers8754 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love how the classic Andy players are so happy to play the game and the retail players are super stiff neck trying to max everything player.

    • @Sammysapphira
      @Sammysapphira 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's ironic because classic players are the biggest spergs in the world. Have you never seen a world buff train to clear content that dies in 20 seconds?

  • @ToastedBread68
    @ToastedBread68 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You don't have to complicate retail that much. Shadow isn't hard to play at a high level. Unless you're an idiot who just wants to get that gold parse every fight, your damage as shadow will be fine. Just keep everything on cooldown and don't cap insanity. That's it. Shit's easy.

  • @AlexCoombes123
    @AlexCoombes123 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tips for spriest. Just use hekili for like 2 weeks. Get your muscle memory in and watch your name rise to the top of the meters. Pew pew.

  • @Deadmeatsz
    @Deadmeatsz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The retail nerds min-maxed the fun out of every aspect of WoW, killing any form of deviation from the meta.

    • @MoonPoxX
      @MoonPoxX 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tell me you've never played retail without actually telling me you've never played retail.

    • @Deadmeatsz
      @Deadmeatsz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MoonPoxX tell me you are a young meta slave with no experience of games prior to mid 2010s without telling me you are one: the comment 😂

  • @healyourgutguy
    @healyourgutguy ปีที่แล้ว

    lol wotlk spriest is not a walk in the park either lol getting those mindflay ticks optimized.

  • @momchilkrumov3170
    @momchilkrumov3170 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait, Dakata sold his char?

    • @J0baka
      @J0baka ปีที่แล้ว

      No dw, he just layered another webcam over dakatas footage

  • @danielkarlsson397
    @danielkarlsson397 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Retails is too easy!" Right.....