leveling in retail vs classic part 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- here is a more 'accurate" comparison. some individuals in the comments felt that i was not representing either properly. here ya go =D
just thought i would make a comparison. leveling in hardcore classic has been a learning curve after playing retail for so many years lol
What should i compare in classic/wotlk/retail next?
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pvp bgs world and arena, dungeons, raiding, professions, gear progression while leveling, acquiring gear at endgame, pet companion/mount collection
@@ez6791 a lot to explore here, I like
Mage rotation
Retail: "I accidentally pulled ten mobs instead of 5 now I will have to heal"
Vanilla/classic: "I pulled one too many mobs, I guess I'll die now"
I pulled two mobs i guess i die now
Retail: ''And I'll fully heal myself with an uninterrupted one second heal.''
@@Pavignon I thought we have passive healing abilities?
It's because you're not meant to be playing content from 3 expansions ago, so the leveling experience from 1-50 is watered down and hastened so that you quickly reach the level cap. You're supposed to be leveling in the current expansion from 60-70, which is absolutely just like Classic in terms of difficulty especially in the endgame.
@@Midnight_Metro thats actually max level cope, do you want him to make a video where he picks shadowlands in the 1-50 content and steam rolled it as well? he had to make a part two to prove idiots like you wrong
How inconvenient that they make you dismount to kill all those mobs. I thought retail was easier than that.
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I play classic for world leveling, the challenge and the adventure and retail for the dungeons and pvp. You have to enjoy both in their own ways, because they are two different experiences.
Classic : you play a mortal vs gods
Retail : you play a god vs mortals
Then they should probably quit writing the game as a mortal versus gods. It's so boring when the game wasn't DESIGNED to be played the way it actually plays.
@@godominus9222You have to understand that game does not represent true story, well, retail somewhat does (only because there were few narratives in shadowlands that tells you as a player are hero, but that's how it always were, it's just ignorant players' negative opinions), but in the past you ventured vs old gods for example and yet in the books it never tells that, in books it tells that horde and alliance worked together to kill world threat, wether it be old golds or legion or lich king. My point is and advice to never treat WoW game like a true representation of lore, because you will always have false perception.
in retail as prot warrior with full heirloom and enchants u can actually pull entire map and u will not die.
in classic you fight against bosses. in retail the boss is you
@Akatsxki you cannot solo yourself. oh wait...
Doesn't get much better in end game content - th-cam.com/video/z3QImwiDg7g/w-d-xo.html
Retail is a joke
@Akatsxki Long live the king rextroy, showcasing blizzard bullshit since the dawn of time
Retail mindset. Get levled as fast as possible. Then run the same dungeon over and over ad fast as you can. What a terrible philosophy. The world is the game. It should be difficult, with adventure and mystery, and community.
Okay so what do you have to say about the classic degens who sit in Deadmines/SFK/RFC/Scarlet Monastery/Maraduan/ZF/Scholo/and Strat all day?
@@Cawhi They are also failing to play the game. But that shouldn't surprise me with retail mindset.
@@cattysplatplaying the game how you enjoy it is failing? there's a billion ways to play retail. Obviously the newer content only caters to M+ grinders and PVPers but there's still plenty to do. Both vanilla and retail are fun, they're just not the same game, but they are both games and you should play games however you have fun with them
@@hunterlepage retail is trash quit coping
@@Metalwrath2 womp womp
Dead serious that was some 10/10 micro-management skills on that Vanilla druid clip. I had 10x more fun watching that 60 sec combat scenario than I did leveling 70 - 85 in Cata this past week.
"As you can see my health bar actually did move but it was nothing more than an inconvenience for the thicc daddy druid..." 💀💀💀
Retail feels like a free mobile game.....
We've gone way too far with the easy mode leveling
Nah.
I prefer the pay $60 and skip to endgame method.
@@wikipediaintellectual7088where you then buy Gold with real money to pay carries in Arena, Raids and M+. Great game, 10/10
@@wikipediaintellectual7088 100%, I’d pay $200 to skip leveling, actually skip the whole game altogether
@@alexconstas9634 if you give me $300 you wont have to play ever again bb
@@zwojack7285
I don't bother with carries.
I just casually do questlines and random bgs.
Retail quest: champion you have to activate the buttons, but first come meet me at the top of the mountain and listen to my story
Main reason classic lvling feels alive imo
Just an fyi - the vanilla classic is even harder cause roots don’t work inside and you cannot root multiple mobs.
And i currently play boomie on hardcore. If i pull more than 2 mobs - i need to run away asap. And i am 30+
Good point. The main thing i am doing in wow currently is playing hardcore. I hopped on wotlk “classic” because i had a character there already and didn’t want to level another to suicide. In making this video i totally forgot about the root in caves thing along with having extra abilities since it was wrath classic. I thought its the same game until you get to tbc/wrath but not quite. I do feel the clip still captures the power difference between classic/ wotlk classic at least compared to retail.
@@Ross_2312 yeah + in classic wrath(expansion) spells costs like 5x less than in vanilla. at lvl 1 as druid in vanilla u can just cast 3 wraths(spell) or sth before gooing oom
its about almost all spells in the game+ in wrath(exp) u have stronger talents, and some other stuff that makes game easier - but still in wrath(exp) u got the old feeling while leveling, while on retail its just joke its like playingsingle player game on mode 10x easier than easiest . wow is too hard for new players... but not in terms of combat but just wide range of systems/world and every expansion they just nerf(making it easier) leveling xD its like wtf
@@gimothunt ya i noticed on wrath i was having a lot harder time ooming. I have played a lot of hc classic lately and the difference was very noticeable.
Bro you captured the classic feeling really well in this one Part 2 was a banger. Do some raid comparisons that would be pretty good. Retail you can go kill old raid content by yourself that is impossible with out reckoning bug in classic.
these are fun vids bro. A few comparison vid ideas could be a either Rare/elite spawn between retail and classic. You could also do inventory space/management and another really good one would be travel. A wild difference imo is even just flight paths. pretty sure Pre-cata was 330% while post cata flight path speed is like 430 or something.
Great ideas, thank you! Flight paths especially is interesting, have not really considered the speed difference, but i know vanilla feels slooooow
elite mobs in retail barely exist. A lot of people still don't even know this but elite quests were removed in TBC in the old world at least, so you very rarely come across any elites at all
@@neattricks7678 Yeah they are for sure far inbetween but you can still find them on most quests that require some vehicle for a quest. or a group of npc to help you such is the case in almost all of BFA zones. Giant dinos or Giant like Naga things? the funny thing i have found is 100% a level 10 can just singlehandedly kill them by himself if they have ant bit of self heal. Really sad tho to see It was always cool running into the elite quest mobs in classic like The big game beasts of STV - or BEss when you first hit Stonetalon.
@@TheShalestorm yeah, now that you mention it I remember that the newer expansions changed it up a bit and now elites are almost the same as regular mobs, so they could make them a bit more common again. MoP had a great series of elites that dropped what would become 'toys' as many of them were a challenge to solo.
@@neattricks7678 TRUEEE - TBH i am still to this day a proud fan of MoP. Dont get me wrong i riffed on it hard on release like "lol kunfu panda bro" but god MoP had some banger zones, people actually world pvp'd outside of the two major cities in pandaland cus they were so close, Rare farming was fun then and most you could repeat over and over. And yeah the Elites for toys and stuff was kinda banger too. + it was some of the best pvp i can remember. Mostly had a bad rap at the time due to Pandas and Pretty sure thats when they brought out Battle pets so it just got the stigma of kunfu panda, and pokemon.
Funny looking back tho it was actually some of the best wow retail had to offer. least we finally got some classic :D
They should drastically buff mobs in retail WoW so that they more difficult and dangerous like in Classic, but also substantially buff the amount of XP they give so that the total time to level is still the same.
That would encourage mob grinding as the best leveling method. Which is not a great experience for the players.
@@ForOne814 Or they could just buff mobs & buff quest experience accordingly. The game is braindead until you step foot into a Mythic+ and theres no reason it should be like that.
@@Xfacta12482mythic plus is braindead lol. The only content in the game that isn't braindead is 2400+ rated PvP
@@Xfacta12482 then it'll take 2 hours to level.
They need to do a Cataclysm 2.0
New quests/storylines in EK and Kalimdor, and rebalance those so people can reach lvl 60, or maybe even 70 there. Leave the other zones as options just like they work right now with Chromie Time.
So doing this they can rebalance not just how much xp mobs and quests give, but also how hard they are. How hard the new quests gotta be. Make it so you gotta actualy travel like vanilla, but now we got mounts at earlier levels so it wont be as bad as it was back then. Make this and everybody will come back if you could have a leveling experience as it was in vanilla. A very rich leveling experience that felt like an adventure.
The problem atm for leveling from 1 to 60, is not so much how easy to kill mobs is, but the fact quests don't send you travel to places, You get the quest here, and the mobs you need to kill are 10 yars in front of you. You kill them, turn quest, and advance 40 yards to the next square...
I remember, just to name 1 example, this quest in the Hinterlands to save a baby gryphon. You go all the way to Dustmallow Marsh, then to Zul'Farrak for a necklage, then you take that to a mage in Blasted Lands so he can use it to chanel his spell to find the Gryphon, which is all the way back in the Hinterlands. THAT felt like a fucking adventure.
They were gnoll match for the thicc daddy Druid
whats funny is this isnt even fast lvling either you can get to 60 in about a day with RDF spam maybe less if your a tank/healer and if you got timewalking you can walk out with basically a full bag of gear
you think that is crazy then you havnt seen the level 10 twink dungeon boosters pulling the whole instance at once and their hp bar not moving
Lmao i have never heard of that wow
@@Ross_2312 make a level 10 mw monk and q a tbc dungeon with boa gear and lifestealing enchant onna 2h boa staff
people who like classic and even more so for hardcore seem to play FOR the leveling experience where retail leveling experience is a burden you have to trudge through to get to the 'real' game.
now add HC, you feel the adrenaline when pulling 2 mobs
Levelling is a legit exciting challenge in classic. Massively more so with hardcore. Retail it is simply a slow tedious grind, if you died it was because something broke with the scaling.
Retail isn't even fun anymore, i already feel more connected to my dwarf warrior in classic compared to my other chars on retail. I feel bored on max level
Damn, you master that Tauren druid !
Retail wow is one of the only games people pay more to not have to play the game…
Ignorant comment from someone who played retail far enough to only enjoy world quests and normal dungeons lol
@@sincityprime nah I played up until bfa and tell me why my comment is ignorant when you can purchase a boost to skip a large portion of the game
@@jrwar12 How large of a portion? Do people spend more time leveling up a character than they do endgame content? It sounds like you personally hit max level and then find another class to start over and do it again.
@@sincityprime I don’t play retail anymore at all so no I don’t do that. I understand retail is all about endgame which is my point the levelling is so bad and so pointless people pay to skip it.
@@jrwar12 Classic is about the endgame too. People want to get their epic mount. Attunements for dungeons & raids. Getting that BiS gear for your class. Working on that legendary for your guild. I understand you don’t play this way in classic but a lot of people do. Check your trade chat next time your in game. People will keep offering boosts if people keep paying for it. Anything to get to that endgame.
Most accurate part is the 5min walk back to your corpse, lol good ol' days
I love how many people think retail sucks or Vanilla. But doesn't think paying $15 a month on a 20 year old game sucks. Both have problems, vanilla is a walking simulator until 20 which takes a decent time if it's not the only game you play. Also you can buy gold, blizzard doesn't care about their fanbase like they claim. "What you guys don't have phones?" Activision is actively ruining this company
I quit wow for about 6 months and have started up maybe 2 months ago. At first i was playing hardcore vanilla where you delete your char if you die. I have been playing a bit of retail and wotlk and i dont really feel like going back. Like you saif the walking simulator where i just auto shot on my hunter is starting to get boring especially after hopping on those two versions.
@@Ross_2312 very much so, I think if blizzard put in effort they could make a great MMO again. I am honestly thinking of trying HC just for that feeling of actually valuing your character. once you get starfall on your Druid you just pop your heals run in Starfall, hurricane and you can pull 10+ mobs. Druids are the best
Always preferred pre-Cata WoW since you have to actually learn how to use you abilities and manage aggro ranges if you want to be efficient with sub-par gear. The amount of quests that were just hard enough to complete solo if you were careful felt great early on. Like the game is actually making you use the fundamentals while you slowly acquire more versatility and power. Each class having interesting ways each ability interacts that you learn how to optimize as you fit them into your rotation. Not perfect, but definitely more engaging moment to moment.
I don't remember much from my experience in Cata onwards because it just blends together (your toon being the blender oftentimes). Meanwhile in Vanilla > WotLK I'm barely making enough money to buy my abilities and level my professions if I don't run the occassional dungeon or do the harder non-dungeon quests solo. I do think the additional inns, flightpaths, etc. made Cata onwards less annoying to travel around in, but they changed so much design wise that the levelling just felt empty.
Lol at that comment. In Classic the only advantage you get while leveling is finding a wand for your spell caster which is like a 0.04% drop. Retail is a joke.
Heh (-_-)
Don't get me wrong, at level 10, the scaling system turns everything in your favor, but at level 35-69, such a number of mobs will kill you if you don't kite them or press your buttons well
True, tbh in retail you get less powerful when you level
@@Ross_2312 And that is exactly the problem with retail leveling, at first you two shot mobs, then you 10 shot them, then you 20 shot them, then you gotta kite them shoot them 100 times and then maybe you kill them, but you're supposed to be getting stronger as a character, but you're killing everything slower?? and sure Im overexagerating a little bit, but thats what its like.
Retail mirroring society. Short attention spans, love of loud noises and flashy colors/actions. Coming out of the gate able to take on as many mobs as you want makes little sense, but clearly people like it.
Try Mythic Plus or a Heroic raid. Classic just shamelessly wastes your time. Retail lets you play the game.
Today almost died in this cave on Hardcore, because pooled 3 mobs as sham.
Stay safe brother. I have died an embarrassing amount of times.. Currently 16 and playing a lot more cautious/slow.
retail just doesn't feel rewarding at all. i play classic (wotlk - because balancing and northrend
The graphics look much worse than in classic. Why did they do all this?
They really do. Looks even more cartoony and too friendly, like all the character designs, they put dwarves and tauren on some soy diet. Even the voice acting like that dumb*ss blue dragon razzlef*ck or whatever. The big baddie sounds less menacing than the enemies in disney princess stories. And the friendly dragons are just scaled furries. Its terrible
@@coldcrush5921 exactly this. Too sad..
The next Blizzard thing..."Oh, so you guys wished retail was hard again? Ok, that will be $60 pls"
Haha, I laughed pretty loudly out loud when I heard you say you died and had a 4 minute runback while filiming this LMFAO
Theres leveling in retail?
I thought you could only get a max lvl via paying money
tbh, the damage is too high, the mobs don't hit hard enough, and also the mana regens wayyy too fast/mana costs are too low at lower levels in retail.
Also it's weird from lvl 1-10 because you hit like a fucking truck with your initial spells, but once you start hitting 30s, your Wraths/Frostbolts/etc. start making less of a dent which doesn't feel good at all. The pacing is all over the place.
True..retail leveling you actually get less powerful as you level up 😂
Yeah,vanilla was a group game,even the quests you can do solo, are more meant as a two player experience,goes waaaay smoother
I always enjoyed the challenge of leveling to max naked in this game, and in retail, it's unbelievably easy no matter what class you are playing. I remember I leveled 60 levels in a couple of hours as a naked prot warrior by just spamming bfa dungeons. It was so easy, people didn't even believe I was actually naked until they inspected me. The game was only slightly harder than it was before, and it's the only way you will be slightly challenged by retail wow's leveling. I shouldn't have to gimp myself as much as possible to start being challenged. I have absolutely no idea why people are ok with this. No wonder why new players have such a hard time getting into this game. Old world is dead and offers no challenge.
not to mention the infinite mana. I rmbr playing lock lvl 1 and needing to sit and drink water after 5 shadow bolts
True
Heirlooms got nerfed into the ground. Some leveling gear is actually better than them now.
wow classic vs retail leveling is a lesson in delayed gratification. You have two types of tendencies that either deliver immediate low quality rewards or delayed high quality rewards. Different personality types have different tendencies. Different games for different types of people
I dunno, this staff in retail part looks sus.
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Retail vs Classic is just "do i wanna be overpowered or underpowered in ever situation?"
Its just the whole Vibe of it ^^ it feels soooo Plastic and China Toy Style idk how to call it its not as Raw as Classic it doesnt have the same Flaire it feels realy Childish when you see it Side by Side right?
honestly most players, me included would die in that situation. well fought.
I think people fail to realize that leveling isn't a main focus in the game anymore because we've been doing it for ages. Classic hardcore's following is so big because there are nice parts of having a rewarding leveling experience. Getting new gear, new talents, doing your professions the old fashion way (not just spending no-value retail gold just to max it out in 30 minutes). They have to bring back that sense of progression when leveling. Where you feel like you're gaining strength through levels + gear + new abilities/talents.
When I did my first druid quest on hardcore classic era, I was the same level as the quest, it was hard af, the moonkins were shredding me and I had to take it slow, after I summoned and killed the moonkin, it felt so good and rewarding to finally finish it and get my bear form
That is why I now only play classic, the leveling for me is the focus.
Very true. But leveling is the funnest and least toxic part of the game. Arenas and dungeons are pretty damn fun but it's so easy to get tilted. That being said, I still think retail leveling is fun, especially early on. If the leveling had the stakes classic had. I doubt many people would play classic since the animations and ultility of the classes on retai are just too satisfying
ever since WoD i've never been a fan of the new models or fan animations they just don't hit right some of the effects also vanish so fast you can't appreciate some of them unlike the old ones
In all fairness you do get weaker as you level up in retail, making encounters ever so slightly harder. Classic is hard from the get-go.
Cataclysm and onward elites aren't so elite anymore
@@atcera8714
Try fighting elites in dragon isles
@@wikipediaintellectual7088 depends on the class. Enh shaman could handle them pretty well
@@coldcrush5921
Oh no doubt.
I main fistweaver and I was able to whittle down some of the big bad elite mods with Ancient Teachings.
It's a fun challenge though.
@@atcera8714 and TBC removed elite quests so there are basically none. and wotlk nerfed the entire world into the ground.
Since when can druids use root inside caves in classic?
Im not sure, tbc or wrath. They call it “wrath of the lich king classic” I’m guessing you were thinking of vanilla as the true classic?
@@Ross_2312 Ohhh, i thought this video is in Vanilla Classic
@@xdesertx yeah originally i made a part one and i thought instead of leveling a char just to kill for the meme, i would use one i had leftover from vanilla that is on the wotlk servers. I leveled it 8-10 and saw i got spells like natures grasp im like ok this is pretty different. Mana costs are a lot lower as well. I did want to do it on vanilla originally.
On retail you can just solo dungeons if you can'tt get rdf
The first few levels of shadow priest are the top. Just hold W and SW:P everything in sight.
And now Classic raids vs Retail Myth raids pls .
I have a couple like that, they are more satire than serious comparisons
The fact that it's so insanely easy in retail, makes it feel completely meaningless. So just an inconvenience, which is why they offer you boosts to get higher level instantly. In classic there are ways to be more effective like mage AOE farming that are risky but effective and make you feel good accomplishing it
that fact that almost any race can be druid now is almost the worst part.
favourite is when i join doungeon at lvl 15 with 5 spells. And i join to some high level guys, who are sweating on the boss, while i am doing more dps with my 1 attack spell
Haha it be like that fr
Elwynn forests mobs also are just weaker overall than in some other zones you can level in with chromie.
I wish there was a way to play retail at greater difficulty. The lack of challenge, especially with regards to leveling, is very off-putting as it renders most of what you achieve meaningless.
I understand what you mean. Some people will tell you to do mythic raids or keystones for a challenge. But a fundamental part of any RPG is the journey you take to become a hero.
@@Ross_2312 YES! Questing and exploration is at the heart of it for some players 🥰
A dude told me, once: Retail = Hulk smash. Classic = Dark Souls.
Haha good analogy
wow, on my warrior in wotlk it took me 20 minutes to do that quest, i was busy killing the ads that respawn, could not 2v1 or 3v1 i could only pull 1 at a time
Yes, this is obvious, but I would add that leveling at 10 and at 50 is quite different. At level 10 you can't die with your eyes closed. Neither can you as a level 50 as even a little experienced player, but still
Makes sense everybody calls us heroes at level 1
Haven't play for years. Sometimes I feel like I'd like to play again, chill leveling and exploring the world. But after seeing your video my thoughts are this game is definitely dead.
that guy noob. just leveled Spriest on retail with no heirlooms or golds just as is.
and my gameplay was like in pt1...
just running around and multidotting
I dont even play WoW, but it's SO TRUE, reminds me RF Online, these old rpg system are way more excited than just killing a bunch of mobs. The last game i feeled that was Archeage in 2012, where if u lure 2 or 3 mobs are certanly dead hahah so good.
you didn t use potion ? In classic, never go out without potion...
these fools actually thought HEIRLOOMS are the reason we're so over powered in retail??
You are not even losing mana when you cast Moonfire ...
Not all spells cost mana in retail, and for the ones that do, it doesn’t affect you much. Most classes most of the time will not go oom or have to think about mana
i play wow since 2006, for be honest i dont miss any of low phasing leveling, or walk for hours for some dun, or farm, i dont even like leveling, but some magic thing of classic i truly enjoy was especific class quest, for example the horeses, demons summons for warlock, druid forms, totems for shamans, even attument quest,(if u can do it just 1 time for account will be ok, but o god how much i hate do attumment quest for alters), that things that things i mis, but slowphasing leveling naaah, is just boring to me, also endgame for retail is awesome, in classic is more Roleplay if u want some kind engame content, or do boring grinding, that the bad thing of classic the endgame and the dungeons are easy, really easy just have care about the pulls, some trash are a stronger than bosses
The stats, the combat have a different pace now, its not like using a spell that does not scale with intelect like before, now the spells has just one rank and it scales and do a lot more damage. I am not defending retail but the game has changed a lot. Maybe if they never changed the lvling experience it would be so better, but it changed in every expansion til now
They have different gameplay balancing to the point it's almost 2 different games entirely.
It's because you're not meant to be playing content from 3 expansions ago, so the leveling experience from 1-50 is watered down and hastened so that you quickly reach the level cap. You're supposed to be leveling in the current expansion from 60-70, which is absolutely just like Classic in terms of difficulty especially in the endgame.
leveling was so much more intense and fun up to lich king, everything started going downhill after cata Sadge
"Players gonna playplayplay"🗣️🗣️🤖🤖🤖
I like both.
Same, one of first people on these videos to not just pick a side and say f the other
Questing in Retail is pretty unbearable due to how strong you are, however as a consequence of being so strong dungeon farming with friends in Retail is really fun, just running in and pulling the entire dungeon during WoD, Legion, and BFA, AoE spamming everything down. At least it was until all the AoE caps were added, now it's less of a thing.
they designed it this way so you buy the levelboost
i know not as many people play wow now vs then,but it still surprise me a few millions actually play that retail trash
Just out of curiosity, what are the system settings for retail in this video? Because it looks absolutely awful compared to Classic
Tbh im not sure haven’t played retail in like 5 months just logged in. They have updated graphics since classic but i don’t know what my settings are. Usually lower for performance my pc is dated
retail leveling is an actual waste of time and completely unsatisfying to do so you buy the level boosts
love that classic players are still bitching and moaning about retail to this day. like you got everything you wanted bro, not our fault you got bored auto-attacking for 300 hours
You the one came here to bitch though with your passive agressive opinion nobody cares neither asks for.
true and real, anyone who cares about wow as whole and all its iterations will agree the leveling experience in retail needs to be revamped and they have so much good content to work with to really think out of the box and make something new and special. if albion online can successfully take risks with new ideas and absolutely kill it so can blizz.
Retail will always have the problem of too many zones and it’s not going to get better
@@bradr3541 Well thats fine as your opinion but i choose to see it differently, the more zones the more opportunity to do something vast and creative.
Please more! About every class level 10!
Good idea! I will see what i can do, i would like to show examples at higher levels too. I will definitely consider this. I don’t know how much i want to level every class on classic, but it wouldn’t be that bad to 10
leveling is the most annoying part of the game, because the real game starts at max lvl contet so it good that u can lvl from 10-70 in 3h in retail
If a game starts at max level, why is there leveling in the game?
Gives us HC mode on retail😂
that would be amazing
Travel form on retail at lvl 10? WoW change a lot over the years... i remember it at lvl 40 you get it the on 30 then i stop playing
Yep. You can even mount at 60% speed at lvl 10. Lvl 20 100% speed mount
@@Ross_2312 what a joke hah but max is now 60?
@@branidev I think the new xpack raised the max to 70
@@branidev think its up to 70 now with newest expansion, tbh idk anymore lol
LOL the intro ai voice made me laugh
I haven't played in a really long time.... when did they add Timthetatman?
Lmao its a race called “kul tiran human” they all have that tim body type 😂
These times when all this was new. Good old times!
Modern MMOs are just on a completely different philosophy when it comes to leveling, primarily quest design, it's focus is on telling a story akin to a singleplayer game in each questline/zone, which is why new players in retail are pointed straight to BFA content, since that's how they design leveling experience today, while old MMOs is about teamwork and dealing with a dangerous world, which is good but way less solo friendly when there's quests that send you to a stronghold/cave that is teeming with mobs, and you WILL be alone for most of your leveling journey in WoTLK classic, because most people only focus on their own main character and barely play alts (and classic leveling has bad replayability, since it takes so long).
Sold on playing retail, classic leveling makes me want to not play the game.
That’s not world of Warcraft that’s Diablo leveling
a human druid? what the fuck
That is an “allied race” known as the “Kul-Tirans.” Basically heavy humans 🤣
i just recently tried leveling in Retail again and the worst thing with the new scaling while leveling is: it seems you get activly worse instead of improoving while you level up. You blast through mobs like they are nothing early game and the same mobs take much longer 20 levels later, especially if you outlevel your gear (which happens quite often). Its just a joke how unfun leveling became in retail
I am making an in depth “the world of warcraft new player experience” on retail. Leveling has been fun, but there are a lot of issues i have had with it including what you described. I have my notes app with tons and tons of bugs/inconsistencies as well as just issues i think might be confusing for new players. A lot of it as an experienced player you ignore and understand “it is what it is” but for a new player it might be like wtf
bc you play retail for M+ and Raids
@@JD-420 that's not why i play retail.. at least not so much anymore. mostly for the pvp.
@@JD-420 which is a stupid standpoint as its like 10% of the game
It's because you're not meant to be playing content from 3 expansions ago, so the leveling experience from 1-50 is watered down and hastened so that you quickly reach the level cap. You're supposed to be leveling in the current expansion (Dragonflight) from 60-70, which is absolutely just like Classic in terms of difficulty especially in the endgame.
classic leveling is the 60% of content ofc on retail is easy leveling, for real you have 19 years of content
Well my opinion, you have 19 years of potential content, but most of it is irrelevant at max level. I feel like leveling is the perfect time to utilize/incorporate the old content. Chromie time is good, but last couple of times i leveled in it, i never got to finish one expansion before hitting max because i just blew through it so fast
WOOOOOOW 10 HP THAT WAS A CLOSE CALL!!!!
well in retail levelling is not a content anymore there is mythic + dungeons and raids that u can push so i think if u reached 70 once then u should be able to create 60 level chars without boost
They have 19 years of content that came before the current expansion. I feel like leveling is the perfect time to utilize it. For some who have reached max and want a quick path for alts, i feel that should be an option in today’s retail wow as well. I also feel like if the leveling process wasn’t such a joke, maybe people wouldn’t want to skip straight to 60 like you mentioned 🤷♂️.
Now be fair and compare the hardest raids.
It's funny how Classic enjoyer, loves to tell how much harder classic. How much better classic is.
While any retail boss mechanics is harder than whole classic.
Play your dead game if you want, retail player don't give a fuck
See first word in title “leveling” and im a retail player myself lol. Its a meme video so dont take it so serious!
wotlk classic vs. retail lich king solo
Haha wrath classic doesnt have icc raid yet but when it comes out i got u
Over the past years we had level, stats, xp squish and also the mobs scale now with your level. that are the reason why the leveling is at low level very easy and you level faster than you can get gear, but later on it gets a bit harder. I even heard from some people they had a challenging time with the last five levels
leveling is easy but endgame is hard, in Classic leveling is hard but endgame is easy