The Cory Wong plugin has given me the best tone I've ever had without any complications. I thought it was pricey when I bought it but it has more than proven it's value to me. I thought it was all I needed but that Plini X sounded amazing...
I agree! Cory Wong has been my favourite for a long time, and I either own or have used just about all the plugins. I’ve taken a break from CW for a few weeks to tinker with Helix which I’ve enjoyed, but I just came back to CW after reading your comment and I’m loving it! It’s great with York Audio IR’s as well.
Yes, I agree with you, I've been using an axe-fx for years, and then realized that, once I've found the sound that suited me, I was only using a handful of amps and effects. When they released the archetype Petrucci, I was : "well... there's everything I need in this". Tested it for some time during the free trial, and then buying it was a no-brainer.
Line 6 user here; the thing that stands out to me with Neural is how well curated their presets are. You can just scroll those and find one that suits you right away, and the rest still feel usable to someone else. And that kind of crossed over to the QC too, where just calling up an amp or cab sounds really close to right. And that is something Line 6 at least kind of fails; the presets are barely adequate, amp default settings don't usually bring out the best of the model and the cab/mic pairings are often baffling. To a newcomer that first impression is kind of important and Neural are masters of it. Speaking of Line 6 again I think of the Metallurgy series which, lets face it, is their answer to the Archetype series. I got it on a sale in order to have something standalone with the helix sounds for practice and learning and at first I tried to rely on the stock presets...that was bad. As soon as I recreated my basic Helix tones, even with the stock cabs, everything sounded great as usual. So yeah, to me their strength is their straight out of the box good experience that others kind of lack; and from a plug in that is what we all want
Crucially, Neural DSP (and Scuffham) are reasonably priced, especially if you wait for Black Friday. If they were $400+ like so many VSTs I probably never would have tried them.
There's definitely something about seeing something that resembles the real thing and knowing instinctively how it's going to work. When I see a morning glory, I know how to dial it in, and what to expect. When I see 3 numbers and a label that reads "morning star" the muscle/visual memory is completely gone and it takes me longer to dial in a tone.
I will say that the tones of the QC have improved vastly over the last 2 years. However, the form factor of the unit is why I use it FAR more than Helix, Kemper, or Fractal. It fits on my pedalboard, has far more quick control buttons than an HX stomp or GT1000 core, and a much easier UI than the Fractal or Tonex. They just nailed the design of the device itself. And now that the tones are on par with the other units as well, it’s the one I tend to use most frequently.
User experience is huge and Neural DSP definitely serves up a great one: Great tones/presets and a nice, clean, easy-to-navigate UI. I have Positive Grid (Bias Amp 2 and FX2) and IK Multimedia products (A5 and ToneX), though I pretty much exclusively use the latter now; I can get any tone I'm after with it and I like the extensibility of ToneX 3rd party captures, as well as the ability to capture my own gear. I've tried many Neural plugins and, while I really like the UX, I've never felt compelled to buy any because I've found I can get as good or better tones with what I have.
I've always enjoyed your intros, but I feel like you've taken a step up in melodicism/craftsmanship with your recent intros. I'm wondering if you've been doing some particular woodshedding that's upping your improv/composition game. Well done. -Tom
I had one of the first Axe-FX in the UK; sold it within a week. Spent the whole time twiddling knobs, over and over. Total option paralysis. These days I use Neural Soldano. That's it. If artists as varied as Clapton, Knopfler, and Moore use the real thing, then the neural facsimile is fine for me.
Neural DSP plugins are really good if you want to sound like one specific thing. Yes there are some plugins that have quite a bit of range, but you are still very limited. That's why I prefer something like BiasFX2 because you get an actual effects chain and many many amps/effects to choose from to craft a unique tone. That is more valuable to me. Of course if you wanna sound like a certain Artist there is nothing better then getting the Archtype plugin. I love Plini, so I got that plugin a while ago, and I love playing around with it, but I never actually used it for any of my music, because it's a very specific thing, with a very specific sound.
BiasFX2 is unfairly mistreated. Now I'm getting the best tones I ever had with the Fractal FM3, but before I was able to achieve great sounds with Bias, I used it for many years.
Pretty late to the party. But in regards to NDSP and its workflow, I've honestly come to really appreciate their plugins and the workflow behind it. I started out with Archetype Nolly (though I don't listen to Periphery at all), and I don't find it overly special for just basic metal tones and am considering selling it. But I've since gotten Archetypes Cory Wong for cleans and Rabea for distortion and couldn't be any happier with them. While Wong is more aimed at funk-which I don't do-it has *the* clean sound I've been looking for, and Rabea has solid distortion and all the creative effects I could want. Honestly with those two under my belt...all I really need is a couple more solo amp heads from wherever else and I'm pretty much set. Adding on to this, I feel like NDSP plugins aren't ones you're meant to grab every single one of. It feels like there's some redundancy to it because you're mostly meant to grab a couple or so that fit you best and that'll cover all your bases.
Although I own almost all NDSP plugins and love them, I really hate its preset browsing/managing system, which is so primitive and clunky. The drop-down menu tree system is annoying because one slip of the fingers and you'd have to restart the menu tree clicking process. In comparison, Amplitube's presets browsing/ managing system is far superior, with tagging, search, sorting, and no need to go out of the plugin to organize the presets and folders. I also wish the gear pieces could have their own presets so we can create our own and reuse them. For example, sometimes you dial in a perfect complex delay and then you'd have to recreate it if you ever want to use it in another context. Being able to save that delay preset would be so helpful.
I like visual representations of gear, as they provide faster cognitive orientation. I'm not a fan of long menus, though in some cases they may be unavoidable. I would prefer one "Effect Type" with 20 Parameters, than 20 variations of the same type Effect with 5 Parameter each. It is 20 vs 100 Parameters. And many Parameters are redundant across the type of Effect. The Line 6 Speaker Cab Block where you can switch many Mics for the same Speaker is a good example of ehe efficient design I'm alluding to. Follow the Math. 🤓
It's all your fault for getting me excited John lol. With child-like anticipation I say ~ Our Neural DSP fun will enter a new world soon... with Plugin / Quad Cortex compatibility!
@@johnandre5558 I had a Stomp for a couple years. It was nice but similar to what John says in this video, it was a case of "options paralysis". For me, it just wasn't a good work flow for recording. I went back to plugins and have no regrets.
If I run neuraldsp through my HX stomp, I get around the whole input gain problem right? What reason do you have for running it through a regular audio interface instead of your stomp or helix?
As a hobbyist I love Neural DSP because I can have tons of amazing tones, amps, pedals, with out spending thousands of dollars of gear and having no space. Not to say I don't have a pedal collection. My main hardware for live gigging is a boss katana 100 mkii and my pedalboard
I've tried their plugins in the past, and often had latency problems. I got the Quad Cortex, and that solved that issue, and am hoping when they finally get the Archetype compatibility for it, things are as nice. Not sure they are going to try and go the skeuomorphic path though, the display on the QC is rather low rez.
Neural DSP is mainly a software developer. They probably make way more money by selling $100-$200 licenses than $1500 hardware independent from its software counterpart. Updates are probably easier to roll out as well.
@@cohnjordy there may be some truth to that, but i think its apparent now that the main purpose of the qc was to sell more plugins and give a way to take the plugins outside of the daw world
Love your videos, bring a lot of value. Can I just suggest trying to reign back on the “kinda”, “dunno” and “or whatever “? Detrimental to the flow and message
Neural DSP has been the most enjoyable experience using with STL Amphub in second for me. While I’m not a guitarist, I’m an audio engineer. I think these amp sims sound great and, in a way, you’re forced to get the tone you want with the amount you have in the plugin. A lot of people use their amp sims now. I always use it as a tool to track. If the band loves the tone, I just stick to the sim instead of reamping it through an actual amp.
Is that a bit like what Fender have done with the TMP but in a stomp box version. Made the visual experience more real and enjoyable. Although it seems to get hated on for those same reasons...strange. I dont have one but just an observation
I find I get a real feedback problem using Neural DSP plugins. So much so, I have to have the noise gate so high, it stifles the signal and that's with the basic standalone pre-sets. As for asking Neural DSP support, you just as well send a letter to Santa, cos there's nothing doing there. I've actually got better results from the McRocklin suite and Soft Tube's AmpRoom.
The Neural guys understand very well the concept of "perceived quality". These plugins esthetic is pretty good. It's very similar to the audiophile world where what you see with your eyes will make you perceive a better sound quality. In the case of plugins it's pretty ironic since having rotating knobs on a static amp image is the simplest UI you can code in a VST.
Personally, I dislike skeuomorphic UIs. I don't find them any more intuitive, and they tend to use up lots of screen estate and involve a lot of scrolling and mouse movements. I know I'm probably in a minority, but I quite like what Boss does with Tone Studio (and also what Nux do with their MightyAmp app). It's not overly busy, it's straightforward and easy to use and, you don't need to go hunting for parameters. Sure, it's not as pretty and the look is a bit dated, but I don't use these tools because they are pretty. I use them because they work. I prefer practical over pretty.
When you buy the plug in pack it's pricey and it's a license and patch is there any risk of losing the license or patch later if said artist leaves neural. I think about this because it's happened with video games and movies before and buyer looses out all they paid
I think Genome currently provides the best price quality and I just love the philosophy of supporting community made profiles with NAM and ML. It sounds significantly better than Neural DSP, although visually it is not as attractive.
I'm not a fan of skeuomorphic interfaces in general, but I feel like the NeuralDSP interfaces in particular take it too far, wasting lots of screen space (and perhaps also GPU cycles). But Line 6, much as I love Helix Native, has put next to zero effort into their interface; they're too far in the other direction. There's a middle ground that I wish Line 6 would aim for-maybe something more like like Valhalla or Denise Audio plug-ins for non-skeuomorphic but still attractive interfaces, or SSL or Eventide plug-ins for interfaces that are more skeuomorphic but not to the point of distraction. I think Scuffam's S-Gear is about as skeuomorphic as I'd like a guitar plug-in to be. And it sounds great! 8-) -Tom
I'm still sceptical over whether I could use them for "professional" recordings. I still turn to a tube amp when people ask me to record guitat and have expectations for the outcome
I can't understand why, but I didn't fully enjoy ANY of the Neural DSP plug-ins. It's not so much about tone, but the playability, the feedback and dynamics of the picking hand... I don't know how to explain, it's like something is missing. In my experience, I've found TH-U and even the most hated Bias FX2 to be significantly superior, I really feel the contact of the pick and fingers on the strings. That's very weird because the whole guitar community seems to love Neural's... I just can't figure out why they don't work for me
Probably because you need to set your Audio Interface input level / gain knob ALL THE WAY DOWN, otherwise you are lowering your headroom and adding more gain then would be in real life if you were to plug your guitar straight into the real amp, which would of course alter the response from the plugin! John Cordy and Rhett Shull have already done videos about this issue, also, check out a video by Ed S called how to set optimal input levels for amp sim plugins to learn more! He is the guy who got the ball rolling on this! \m/
Ahhh yes - Neural DSP are good at pretty user interfaces, marketing campaigns and generating hype - And you get to pay £100 every time they regurgitate their code with a new artist name marketing campaign. I love the Shark in the background, it is still my oldest kid's favourite teddy.
It's a pretty big line that divides those who like skeuomorph UI design and those that do not. Historically, in other areas of software design history has shown that skeuomorphism is often necessary to get users to move from physical to digital, and then it's abandoned in favor of more effective and functional interfaces based on the new directions a product can then develop in when no longer constrained by physical boundaries. Personally, if something digital looks like a physical guitar pedal it's a non-starter for me. Absolutely disappointing and frustrating to use. But I get that other people dig it.
They do sound great and the limited choices within each plugin can indeed be a great help when trying to get something quickly. The presets are generally all very good too (unlike much of the competition. They also seem to be a lot louder as default which is a pain. The presets also sound great on their own but generally do not sit well in mixes, way too much reverb or delay. They're also expensive. Each amp set is around £100 and many of the FX are duplicated. And they still can't be loaded into hardware. For these latter two points I still prefer Helix whether LT, Stomp or Native. I've had it long enough that I ignore most of the amps in there so the choice overload is no longer an issue....and it still gets regular updates for free. As an aside I've never heard of most of the guitarists featured by neural DSP.
The audio quality of the neural DSP plug-ins is ok, but I hate the iLok scheme and the fact that they release a little bit at the time and every time ask again for money. In addition they appear to spend a huge amount of work and money to generate super pretty graphics and marketing. I prefer here for example S-Gear, which gives you a very flexible sound kit, that allows to build most of the usual amp archtectures for a lot less money, has at least as good a sound and can live without that pesky copy protection scheme.
You’re missing out. I swap back constantly from my vintage gear to plugins and it’s getting to the point where I can’t tell the difference half the time
@@modusceo Probably. But when I go on stage, I don't bring laptops, so I prefer to be confident and experienced about the gear I use. Also, my rig won't need updates ;) Ohh ok you got me. I'll add stuff. But physical stuff. 🤣
@@modusceoi don't like the screen and i don't use a DAW, only just got an MPC to use as a sequencer, and no i won't be using the MPC 'plug-ins' that AKAI try to push on me.... I just prefer one device per function, one knob per function, no drop down menus..... #TheScreenIsDeath
The Cory Wong plugin has given me the best tone I've ever had without any complications. I thought it was pricey when I bought it but it has more than proven it's value to me. I thought it was all I needed but that Plini X sounded amazing...
I agree! Cory Wong has been my favourite for a long time, and I either own or have used just about all the plugins.
I’ve taken a break from CW for a few weeks to tinker with Helix which I’ve enjoyed, but I just came back to CW after reading your comment and I’m loving it! It’s great with York Audio IR’s as well.
That Morgan is amazing
Yes, I agree with you, I've been using an axe-fx for years, and then realized that, once I've found the sound that suited me, I was only using a handful of amps and effects. When they released the archetype Petrucci, I was : "well... there's everything I need in this". Tested it for some time during the free trial, and then buying it was a no-brainer.
I've got the Tone King Imperial MKII plugin and am loving it.
Line 6 user here; the thing that stands out to me with Neural is how well curated their presets are. You can just scroll those and find one that suits you right away, and the rest still feel usable to someone else. And that kind of crossed over to the QC too, where just calling up an amp or cab sounds really close to right. And that is something Line 6 at least kind of fails; the presets are barely adequate, amp default settings don't usually bring out the best of the model and the cab/mic pairings are often baffling. To a newcomer that first impression is kind of important and Neural are masters of it. Speaking of Line 6 again I think of the Metallurgy series which, lets face it, is their answer to the Archetype series. I got it on a sale in order to have something standalone with the helix sounds for practice and learning and at first I tried to rely on the stock presets...that was bad. As soon as I recreated my basic Helix tones, even with the stock cabs, everything sounded great as usual. So yeah, to me their strength is their straight out of the box good experience that others kind of lack; and from a plug in that is what we all want
Crucially, Neural DSP (and Scuffham) are reasonably priced, especially if you wait for Black Friday. If they were $400+ like so many VSTs I probably never would have tried them.
There's definitely something about seeing something that resembles the real thing and knowing instinctively how it's going to work. When I see a morning glory, I know how to dial it in, and what to expect. When I see 3 numbers and a label that reads "morning star" the muscle/visual memory is completely gone and it takes me longer to dial in a tone.
I will say that the tones of the QC have improved vastly over the last 2 years. However, the form factor of the unit is why I use it FAR more than Helix, Kemper, or Fractal. It fits on my pedalboard, has far more quick control buttons than an HX stomp or GT1000 core, and a much easier UI than the Fractal or Tonex. They just nailed the design of the device itself. And now that the tones are on par with the other units as well, it’s the one I tend to use most frequently.
User experience is huge and Neural DSP definitely serves up a great one: Great tones/presets and a nice, clean, easy-to-navigate UI. I have Positive Grid (Bias Amp 2 and FX2) and IK Multimedia products (A5 and ToneX), though I pretty much exclusively use the latter now; I can get any tone I'm after with it and I like the extensibility of ToneX 3rd party captures, as well as the ability to capture my own gear. I've tried many Neural plugins and, while I really like the UX, I've never felt compelled to buy any because I've found I can get as good or better tones with what I have.
Is there any plugin with a good Tone Bender Fuzz tone?
I've always enjoyed your intros, but I feel like you've taken a step up in melodicism/craftsmanship with your recent intros. I'm wondering if you've been doing some particular woodshedding that's upping your improv/composition game. Well done. -Tom
Have you tried the 2 notes genome? Have been having fun with it. No option paralysis so far and great easy interface
I had one of the first Axe-FX in the UK; sold it within a week. Spent the whole time twiddling knobs, over and over. Total option paralysis. These days I use Neural Soldano. That's it. If artists as varied as Clapton, Knopfler, and Moore use the real thing, then the neural facsimile is fine for me.
If the plug-ins were available on the quad cortex I would order one now. But, yeah the packaging of these tone sets is the best.
Neural DSP plugins are really good if you want to sound like one specific thing. Yes there are some plugins that have quite a bit of range, but you are still very limited. That's why I prefer something like BiasFX2 because you get an actual effects chain and many many amps/effects to choose from to craft a unique tone. That is more valuable to me. Of course if you wanna sound like a certain Artist there is nothing better then getting the Archtype plugin. I love Plini, so I got that plugin a while ago, and I love playing around with it, but I never actually used it for any of my music, because it's a very specific thing, with a very specific sound.
BiasFX2 is unfairly mistreated. Now I'm getting the best tones I ever had with the Fractal FM3, but before I was able to achieve great sounds with Bias, I used it for many years.
Pretty late to the party. But in regards to NDSP and its workflow, I've honestly come to really appreciate their plugins and the workflow behind it.
I started out with Archetype Nolly (though I don't listen to Periphery at all), and I don't find it overly special for just basic metal tones and am considering selling it. But I've since gotten Archetypes Cory Wong for cleans and Rabea for distortion and couldn't be any happier with them. While Wong is more aimed at funk-which I don't do-it has *the* clean sound I've been looking for, and Rabea has solid distortion and all the creative effects I could want. Honestly with those two under my belt...all I really need is a couple more solo amp heads from wherever else and I'm pretty much set.
Adding on to this, I feel like NDSP plugins aren't ones you're meant to grab every single one of. It feels like there's some redundancy to it because you're mostly meant to grab a couple or so that fit you best and that'll cover all your bases.
Although I own almost all NDSP plugins and love them, I really hate its preset browsing/managing system, which is so primitive and clunky. The drop-down menu tree system is annoying because one slip of the fingers and you'd have to restart the menu tree clicking process. In comparison, Amplitube's presets browsing/ managing system is far superior, with tagging, search, sorting, and no need to go out of the plugin to organize the presets and folders. I also wish the gear pieces could have their own presets so we can create our own and reuse them. For example, sometimes you dial in a perfect complex delay and then you'd have to recreate it if you ever want to use it in another context. Being able to save that delay preset would be so helpful.
Gotta say .. I love my Neural DSP Archetype plugin. It's become a goto for my own recordings. I just wish I could use it on the floor.
Yes these plugins are inspiring to play.
I like visual representations of gear, as they provide faster cognitive orientation.
I'm not a fan of long menus, though in some cases they may be unavoidable. I would prefer one "Effect Type" with 20 Parameters, than 20 variations of the same type Effect with 5 Parameter each. It is 20 vs 100 Parameters. And many Parameters are redundant across the type of Effect.
The Line 6 Speaker Cab Block where you can switch many Mics for the same Speaker is a good example of ehe efficient design I'm alluding to. Follow the Math. 🤓
Neural is the goat and will only get better. I love it. That Morgan is amazing
Spot. On. Accessible. Fun to use.
It's all your fault for getting me excited John lol.
With child-like anticipation I say ~ Our Neural DSP fun will enter a new world soon... with Plugin / Quad Cortex compatibility!
I still like S-Gear quite a lot.
Me too!
Yeah, I find the S-Gear really tempting.
@@johnandre5558 It is really good and still stands up very well with Neural. The Marshall amp in S-Gear is really sweet!
@@mikekratochwill4195 Yeah, I don’t want a zillion amps. And I like look. It simple.
@@johnandre5558 I had a Stomp for a couple years. It was nice but similar to what John says in this video, it was a case of "options paralysis". For me, it just wasn't a good work flow for recording. I went back to plugins and have no regrets.
If I run neuraldsp through my HX stomp, I get around the whole input gain problem right? What reason do you have for running it through a regular audio interface instead of your stomp or helix?
As a hobbyist I love Neural DSP because I can have tons of amazing tones, amps, pedals, with out spending thousands of dollars of gear and having no space.
Not to say I don't have a pedal collection. My main hardware for live gigging is a boss katana 100 mkii and my pedalboard
I've tried their plugins in the past, and often had latency problems. I got the Quad Cortex, and that solved that issue, and am hoping when they finally get the Archetype compatibility for it, things are as nice. Not sure they are going to try and go the skeuomorphic path though, the display on the QC is rather low rez.
I hate how neural is putting out all these plugins but neglecting making new much needed amps and fx for the quad cortex
Neural DSP is mainly a software developer. They probably make way more money by selling $100-$200 licenses than $1500 hardware independent from its software counterpart. Updates are probably easier to roll out as well.
@@alrangelal oh i know, but in 2020 they made the world think they were going a different direction when really they were just dabbling in a new pond
Plugin and QC teams are completely different and making plugins doesnt affect the speed that the QC is developed
@@cohnjordy there may be some truth to that, but i think its apparent now that the main purpose of the qc was to sell more plugins and give a way to take the plugins outside of the daw world
Love your videos, bring a lot of value.
Can I just suggest trying to reign back on the “kinda”, “dunno” and “or whatever “? Detrimental to the flow and message
I prefer the honesty as opposed to all the other channels that act like every piece of gear is a gem
Neural DSP has been the most enjoyable experience using with STL Amphub in second for me. While I’m not a guitarist, I’m an audio engineer. I think these amp sims sound great and, in a way, you’re forced to get the tone you want with the amount you have in the plugin. A lot of people use their amp sims now. I always use it as a tool to track. If the band loves the tone, I just stick to the sim instead of reamping it through an actual amp.
Is that a bit like what Fender have done with the TMP but in a stomp box version. Made the visual experience more real and enjoyable. Although it seems to get hated on for those same reasons...strange. I dont have one but just an observation
I find I get a real feedback problem using Neural DSP plugins.
So much so, I have to have the noise gate so high, it stifles the signal and that's with the basic standalone pre-sets.
As for asking Neural DSP support, you just as well send a letter to Santa, cos there's nothing doing there.
I've actually got better results from the McRocklin suite and Soft Tube's AmpRoom.
The Neural guys understand very well the concept of "perceived quality". These plugins esthetic is pretty good. It's very similar to the audiophile world where what you see with your eyes will make you perceive a better sound quality. In the case of plugins it's pretty ironic since having rotating knobs on a static amp image is the simplest UI you can code in a VST.
Personally, I dislike skeuomorphic UIs. I don't find them any more intuitive, and they tend to use up lots of screen estate and involve a lot of scrolling and mouse movements.
I know I'm probably in a minority, but I quite like what Boss does with Tone Studio (and also what Nux do with their MightyAmp app). It's not overly busy, it's straightforward and easy to use and, you don't need to go hunting for parameters.
Sure, it's not as pretty and the look is a bit dated, but I don't use these tools because they are pretty. I use them because they work. I prefer practical over pretty.
This is the first demo of it. Thanks.
Liking commenting subscribed. Maybe I should give a neural DSP plugin a go. Perhaps the Morgan ac20
When you buy the plug in pack it's pricey and it's a license and patch is there any risk of losing the license or patch later if said artist leaves neural. I think about this because it's happened with video games and movies before and buyer looses out all they paid
one of the reasons I hate iLok ....
I think Genome currently provides the best price quality and I just love the philosophy of supporting community made profiles with NAM and ML. It sounds significantly better than Neural DSP, although visually it is not as attractive.
BIAS FX user here - you should do a comparison video
I still get compliments on my tone I get with my old Boss GT-100!!!
Kinda regret getting rid of my GT100
There is something about that unit that is just so inspiring to play, very produced sounding
I'm not a fan of skeuomorphic interfaces in general, but I feel like the NeuralDSP interfaces in particular take it too far, wasting lots of screen space (and perhaps also GPU cycles). But Line 6, much as I love Helix Native, has put next to zero effort into their interface; they're too far in the other direction. There's a middle ground that I wish Line 6 would aim for-maybe something more like like Valhalla or Denise Audio plug-ins for non-skeuomorphic but still attractive interfaces, or SSL or Eventide plug-ins for interfaces that are more skeuomorphic but not to the point of distraction. I think Scuffam's S-Gear is about as skeuomorphic as I'd like a guitar plug-in to be. And it sounds great! 8-) -Tom
I'm still sceptical over whether I could use them for "professional" recordings. I still turn to a tube amp when people ask me to record guitat and have expectations for the outcome
I can't understand why, but I didn't fully enjoy ANY of the Neural DSP plug-ins.
It's not so much about tone, but the playability, the feedback and dynamics of the picking hand... I don't know how to explain, it's like something is missing.
In my experience, I've found TH-U and even the most hated Bias FX2 to be significantly superior, I really feel the contact of the pick and fingers on the strings.
That's very weird because the whole guitar community seems to love Neural's... I just can't figure out why they don't work for me
Probably because you need to set your Audio Interface input level / gain knob ALL THE WAY DOWN, otherwise you are lowering your headroom and adding more gain then would be in real life if you were to plug your guitar straight into the real amp, which would of course alter the response from the plugin! John Cordy and Rhett Shull have already done videos about this issue, also, check out a video by Ed S called how to set optimal input levels for amp sim plugins to learn more! He is the guy who got the ball rolling on this! \m/
Yeah, I know these videos and when I watched them I hoped to have finally found the problem, but unfortunately no luck
Ahhh yes - Neural DSP are good at pretty user interfaces, marketing campaigns and generating hype - And you get to pay £100 every time they regurgitate their code with a new artist name marketing campaign.
I love the Shark in the background, it is still my oldest kid's favourite teddy.
That thumbnail 😂😂😂
I love menus. More menus for me. In fact, give me all the menus. 😜
It's a pretty big line that divides those who like skeuomorph UI design and those that do not. Historically, in other areas of software design history has shown that skeuomorphism is often necessary to get users to move from physical to digital, and then it's abandoned in favor of more effective and functional interfaces based on the new directions a product can then develop in when no longer constrained by physical boundaries. Personally, if something digital looks like a physical guitar pedal it's a non-starter for me. Absolutely disappointing and frustrating to use. But I get that other people dig it.
I like neural dsp plugins because they fuck!
They do sound great and the limited choices within each plugin can indeed be a great help when trying to get something quickly. The presets are generally all very good too (unlike much of the competition. They also seem to be a lot louder as default which is a pain. The presets also sound great on their own but generally do not sit well in mixes, way too much reverb or delay.
They're also expensive. Each amp set is around £100 and many of the FX are duplicated.
And they still can't be loaded into hardware.
For these latter two points I still prefer Helix whether LT, Stomp or Native. I've had it long enough that I ignore most of the amps in there so the choice overload is no longer an issue....and it still gets regular updates for free.
As an aside I've never heard of most of the guitarists featured by neural DSP.
This is where line 6 fail. Their presets are awful, whereas fractal are excellent.
The audio quality of the neural DSP plug-ins is ok, but I hate the iLok scheme and the fact that they release a little bit at the time and every time ask again for money. In addition they appear to spend a huge amount of work and money to generate super pretty graphics and marketing. I prefer here for example S-Gear, which gives you a very flexible sound kit, that allows to build most of the usual amp archtectures for a lot less money, has at least as good a sound and can live without that pesky copy protection scheme.
Yea... true....but their not cracked... you know?
android vs ios
I'll take hardware over plugins for guitar processing every chance I get.
Stay strong Brother ✊Don't get assimilated.... Together we will defeat the Borg!
You’re missing out. I swap back constantly from my vintage gear to plugins and it’s getting to the point where I can’t tell the difference half the time
@@modusceo Probably. But when I go on stage, I don't bring laptops, so I prefer to be confident and experienced about the gear I use. Also, my rig won't need updates ;) Ohh ok you got me. I'll add stuff. But physical stuff. 🤣
@@DVDFRMN hahaha together we stand 😂😂😂😂
@@modusceoi don't like the screen and i don't use a DAW, only just got an MPC to use as a sequencer, and no i won't be using the MPC 'plug-ins' that AKAI try to push on me.... I just prefer one device per function, one knob per function, no drop down menus..... #TheScreenIsDeath
cut the 5 min intros, get to the point
This intro was only 2 minutes. Use your mouse to skip the intros, which I happen to like about his videos.
"Plug-ins"? Ewwww
love my Quad Cortex and i got the Petrucci plugin free when i bought
I tried to buy Plini during the Christmas sale but I couldn't get ILok to work so I gave up.