NTSB NEW Video SALVAGED DC Plane Crash Black Hawk Debris
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- Jeff Ostroff gives an update into the investigation of the DC Plane crash with American Airlines Flight 5342 and a military Black Hawk helicopter on January 29, 2025. Very detailed videos and photos are shown of the major portions of the plane crash debris and the Black Hawk Helicopter Debris.
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Investigative Update for Feb 8
All major pieces of the Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (MHI) RJ Aviation (Bombardier) CRJ700 and the Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk involved in the Jan. 29 mid-air collision near Ronald Reagan National Airport have now been recovered to a secure airport hangar #7 for further examination and documentation. Investigators will look for witness marks on the aircraft that could provide clues to the collision angle. Teams also recovered the CRJ’s Traffic Collision Avoidance System (TCAS) and retrieved additional avionics from the Black Hawk.
A National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration TopoBathy lidar survey from a manned NOAA aircraft was conducted this morning and identified multiple underwater targets that could be additional aircraft debris. Divers investigated those targets today and will continue that work this week.
Investigative Update for Feb. 7
The NTSB, in coordination with the Naval Sea Systems Command Supervisor of Salvage and Diving (SUPSALV), offloaded from a barge the wreckage of the Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk involved in the Jan. 29 mid-air collision over the Potomac River near Reagan National Airport. Additional components of the Bombardier CRJ700 were also offloaded. The wreckage will be placed in a secure hangar at DCA for layout and inspection by investigators.
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Investigators from the helicopter operations group were at Davison Army Airfield today to examine an exemplar Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk. Investigators want to compare the switch settings and other settings from the accident helicopter.
Investigators documented the right wing of the CRJ and recovered its exterior lights, which were sent to NTSB laboratories. Investigators now plan to document the airplane’s left wing.
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I'm a follower of aviation accidents and this is the first time I have seen the NTSB filming and releasing to the public this very clear video of their recovery operations. I am very glad to see them doing this-- it really brings home how difficult, complicated, and painstaking their job is. Good for them and I wish them the best in their investigation.
You know what Administration to thank right?
@@MrMike0076
Right 🇺🇸♥️💯
I agree. It's quite unusual and also very fascinating as well. Such a sad and tragic accident.
The NTSB has always released a bunch of information, it's just no one cared until this incident.
@@MrMike0076The administration has nothing to do with it. The NTSB has always released information like this. All NTSB reports of every aviation incident are available to the public.
Thank you Jeff! I’ve followed you for such a long time. I’ve been a Flight Attendant for over 25 years and this travesty has been allowed by the FAA. Pilots have filed reports for YEARS about this crowded airspace. Anyone that’s flown in can sit in the terminal and watch all the helicopter traffic, it’s insane. This accident was going to happen, it was just a matter of when.
I flew into DCA a number of times back in the 80s but never encountered as you describe. My son now flies for same airline I do and when he was on the 737 couple of years ago he was instructed to go around because a military helicopter was straying into the approach area.
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Both the shuttle helicopter and commercial traffic around this airport should be radically cut back. It is simply not adequate for the traffic it is expected to handle. But the politicians and high-level officials, including military, like the convenience of their shuttles and the fact that it's closer than Dulles for more distant flights.
@@Inkling777
Agree
And of all the airports to have a shortage of ATC...seems like certain ATC should have a mandatory minimum amount working at all times. I feel bad for the guy that was doing double duty
Everyone was complacent. The procedures for allowing helicopter to cross fixed wing final approach at night while flying 200 ft AGL is madness. This was going to happen someday.
No they weren’t it was the lady pilot ……
@jadar9356 What is it when the plane crashes with a non-lady pilot? Which is the majority of crashes.
There has been a long line of both helicopter pilots and commercial airline crews saying this was an accident waiting to happen. Way to many close calls.
There was a near miss just 24 hours before this collision.
In this flight where the collision occurred, the female pilot was on a training flight being supervised by a white male instructor pilot who would have been monitoring altitude, traffic and separation.
It was the male instructor pilot who made the request to ATC for visual separation.
It was the white male instructor pilot who confirmed that he had the CRJ700 in sight.
Go figure . . . .
Someone switched off the TCAS ffs, and the female, part-time pilot, should have been in control and had the TCAS on! Watch the video before you comment.
Heartbreaking. So many families living an absolute nightmare.
Your coverage of the Champlain building collapse was what got me hooked onto TH-cam.!
Gruesome but I have to imagine human body pieces are crushed within that debris. I would hate being the person taking the wreckage apart. Very sad.
Extremely sad looking at how smash up and flatten the helicopter became.
I wish there was a channel that actually shows these things, like Oceangate sub implosion. Not to be gruesome, just seeing how bad these things can get. Educational.
I seen a overhead video of the jet that slammed into the ground, and people were walking around with red biohazard bags just picking up chunks of people they find like road kill
@@cardboardboxificationusually they flag & tag the remains first to assist in the reconstruction and investigation. Then they remove the remains leaving a bunch of little flags waving.
There was an official report that all 67 "bodies" were recovered
So very sombering knowing how many Souls lost their physical bodies in this event. God Bless their families and friends. God please give NTSB clear vision, clarity in thought and wisdom to painstakingly put the pieces back together and determine what has happened.
The helicopter wasn't raised in 2 pieces (front/rear) that was the entire thing, minus some smaller bits. The front of the helicopter is all smashed up and crushed to the back like it hit a wall.
It did.
I found it interesting it was mostly one piece, minus the right engine, but when they show it being loaded the transmission with upper deck along with tailboom were separate. During my military time I’ve seen a few hawks in similar condition loaded for recovery. The lower floor under the pilot seats between the main gear always seems to survive intact.
The rotors might turn up in the CRJ debris field on account of hitting the fuselage or left wing.
@@Joseph-yh4pg You can see with the rotor hub is the remnants of the blades. You can see that all but one have been ground down to their base. I suspect those are the ones that hit first and the one that is in "better" condition wasn't fully involved. What ever is left of the blades will be nothing but long/ short strings of carbon fiber.
@@GeistView maybe.. but since one rotor was half intact the other three rotors would be shredded and shattered to varying degrees. The rotors are all connected after all and moving in the same orbit. The CRJ wreckage scars will tell the story of exactly how the chopper hit the CRJ or vise versa.
Really grateful for such a leap in transparency
this wasn't an equipment failure, both aircraft were flying as designed, this was a human failure. the black box is what they need to figure out what actually happened...
It was her 🌈 fault buddy
What is there to examine they know what happened it was on video as it happened everyone who watched that video knows what happened it's pretty obvious the two aircraft collided in mid air NSTB just wasting our tax dollars
I agree human error Blackhawk all they really need are the black boxes from both, but they will take years to piece them back together and try to put the blame on a mechanical problem.
No matter what the family will be suing the US Government.
The plane had the right away.
@@douglasbarton7440 Exactly 100%
May everyone lost rest in peace, and let’s all hope they can find a answer as to what went wrong, regardless of political influence so we can learn and fix what went wrong
Appreciate your coverage and commentary 👌.
One of the craziest things that gets overlooked in the crash videos is that the tail light on the Blackhawk is still working, even all the way until it enters the water
I had the same thoughts about that also. Breaks my heart seeing all these pieces
How’s that crazy ?
I am so IMPRESSED that we have all these Fixed wing & Rotor pilots that have Graduated from “Facebook Air”.
rude,.. people are entitled to their opinions
😭😭So very sad. This was preventable and I'm sure there will be lawsuits coming. I know I would if I had a family member on there. Praying for the family and friends of all these lost souls 🙏✝️😥
So your mind goes to use lawyers to make money from your dead love ones or friends before the funeral service
The poor victims of this tragedy…never had a prayer…life is so precious and can be gone in an instant. Damn.
How depressing and heartbreaking must be for people who work here.
No they would be very excited.
If I remember correctly, its been about 25 years since I have worked and flown on H-60's, the data recorder is in the electronics bay below the engine and behind the crew compartment, it is not up front due to weight and balance. This area is not that damaged fortunately. In one of the NTSB's previous videos they show a team in a small boat trying to access the electronics bay but could not open the door. Also the H-60 was doing about ±80kts @200 feet and the CRJ was ±120kts @400 feet, per the Radar scope @ 00:41, and at impact speeds remained but altitudes indicated 300 for both. These attitudes are not perfect due to the limitations of the radar itself. which will get narrowed down by the black boxes and latent memories of other electronic on board both aircraft.
Don't need radar to see who was at fault. The helicopter ran into the plane. It was at the wrong altitude, wrong course. The plane is on an approach, it has to decend to land. The plane was following control tower's instructions precisely.
@@williamprice3929 I wrote this above but repeating cuz you may have a comment. Just wondering I dont understand why they have to put together the aircrafts when the recording does not indicate any mechanical failure. Isn't this a ridiculous waste of time since the plane was fine until the helicopter hit it and took it down in tiny pieces? It must cost a fortune to put it back together for macabre curiosity? I would love to hear your comments as the amount of energy and $$$ could serve a better purpose it seems to me obvious human error period why idle curiosity?
It looks like the chopper blade actually hit the middle of the aircraft (and NOT head on/front of the CRJ). You can see as the CRJ fuselage is literally cut in HALF (above the windows) which would mean thats where the chopper blade hit. Everyone must have been cut in half and looked like they were in a blender. THAT is scary stuff that nobody is talking about.
Nonsense.
Probably, or some were ejected.
Details in those type of things are not nessesary...
Your videos are the absolute best! Thank you for your expertise and all of the recent information! 😮
I hope and pray that none of the people knew anything just here and then gone to heaven.
We know the solid answers...PAT25 was out of place period and the pilot was careless to knowing where air trafic was at. To mee something don't add up because Millitary aircraft have radar and yet they didn't see this blip in front of them?
2:38 Holly hell, notice the big wheels on the middle of the truck bed? That's one of the main landing gears of the CRJ. The Black Hawk must have clipped CRJ's landing gear and broke its left wing and brought the gear with it to the water. The footage later showing right main gear is still attached to the wing.
It could also be that the water was (blessedly) ONLY about 8 ft of water when both fell, when means that they were not too far away from land and especially when both were visible in the water. Being that they rested in only 8 ft. of water is damn near 'a miracle' cause all the debris and the vehicles themselves could've fallen much deeper. It's surely sad to see what happened to those people and or what they endured. :(
Thanks Jeff for bringing these reports together, look forward to your followup videos of same. You mentioned the Champlain Towers South Investigation, is there any final report on the cause ?
They were supposed to have final this June, but it got pushed back to 2026 due t setbacks in duplicating the concrete from 1981! Seems they have to keep remixing and 30 day cures and retry testing.
@@jeffostroff I can see that would be a slow process, thanks for the update.
Kinetic energy has really gone to town here, the chopper looks like it hit a wall. Sorting & puttling it all together will take a lot of work. Thanks Jeff. 🇦🇺
boy, the blackhawks propeller blades really shredded that crj on impact.
"Bombardier" was founded in Quebec, Canada, by Armand Bombardier. So, it's pronounced the French way: "Bom-BAR-dee-ay".
It is certainly amazing just how much of a destroyed aircraft can be put "together" after the fact in order to understand what happened. Part of that is the fact that virtually every piece of any consequence has a part number (and/or serial number) and can both be traced to its origin and also where it goes on the aircraft. If documentation is kept properly, they could tell WHEN it was put on the plane. Regulations borne of the blood of many innocent people.
3:14 "survived remarkably intact, for that high speed collision"
I think pretty much the only contact with the CRJ was the rotor blades. I can't see how else there would be so little damage to the main rotor head, main gearbox, engine, undercarriage, tail boom. None of those items look like they've been involved in a high energy collision that took the left wing off the CRJ. The frontal impact damage is from hitting shallow water.
The heli probably banked at the last moment making the rotor "disc" very much the highest part of the helicopter. The blades struck heavily into the CRJs left wing, severely compromising the wing spar, which resulted in the wing separating from the aircraft and the main blades being torn off the helicopter. 5 seconds later, impact with shallow water did the remainder of the damage to both aircraft.
Yeah cheers for that YT expert
Only three of main rotor blades did the „straw brooming“ usually seen when a composite blade meets a solid object.
Having been on retrieval missions while in the army the nose is remarkably intact all things considered. The instrument panel looks crushed into the pilot seats. Very sad view.
@@chrissmith7669you might be looking at the 4 bladed tail rotor, shown at 2:14, when you say only 3 of the 4 blades were "straw broomed". In the left foreground you can see one of the severed main blades. It isn't straw broomed in the same way as the tail blades. Probably different construction materials.
It looks like the tail rotor hit the CRJ as well as the main rotors. In cruise the tail rotor is the highest part of the UH-60 and the sweep of the main rotors over the tail boom is higher than the rotor head.
It doesn't look like the CRJ hit the tail because the tail rotor drive shaft isn't even dented and the tail rotor gearbox is in very good condition. It looks like the tail gearbox was ripped off the tail by the impacts to the tail blades in the collision.
@ there’s a view where one main rotor blade looks bent but not broken. I’ll have to go looking for the tail blades. In forward flight definitely partially higher than the main rotor. I was looking for evidence the hawk was turning away or climbing. I’m assuming there is some but we will know for sure when the final report drops
Would someone look into what Helicopter was involved 24hrs prior to this crash, which caused a commercial airline to avoid a crash, and to go around for another attempt to land, and had to just to wonder if it was suicidal practice run…the day before….
Yes! Great question! I also believe suicide crash or highjacking. What was helicopter doing the day b4. You're effing with the wrong ppl is just the beginning
PAT 11 was the callsign of the helicopter that was 'involved' in the go-around incident the day prior to this crash.
Tail section and undercarriage looking relatively unharmed whereas cabin area with roof obliterated.
Tells me impact and explosion happened front/top - as if heli hit airplane tracking below the airplane. 12-15 ft lower and maybe just a near miss or only heli crashing from turbulence but airplane and passengers + crew surviving. So close - so sad.
Very sad to see.
Why won’t they release the black hawk cockpit audio ? That is what will help determine if the pilot flew into the plane intentionally
They wont.. because the truth will be known. I have a feeling in the future someone will leak information about what really happened
The Nightmare? HUMANS WERE IN THAT Mangeled wreckage 😢
again, all souls RIP 🙏
Great job Jeff!
Other than incorrectly reporting that the NTSB had not recovered the flight data and voice recorders from the Blackhawk helicopter yet! Those were retrieved on January 31.
I feel that the "explosion" seen on the videos was most likely fuel from the left wing tank. Plane pilot likely saw the helicopter at the (too late) last moment, and at minimum dumped left aileron, and possibly left rudder as well. You can see the hint of a pitch-up move in one of the videos. Helicopter may have bounced off the underside of the fuseloge and took off the left wing. Aircraft corkscrewed nose down barrel-rolling to the left into the water. Helicopter appeared to continue nose down toward the water, probably rolling upside down upon impact. Nose down, cause I'd bet his rotors were shucked clear when he went under the CRJ. None of this is guaranteed of course, just kind of a feeling I got watching the videos. Suspicions and opinions are just that. The NTSB will eventually get to the real truth.
The lesson out of this is: the army should never ever put their air craft in the way of civilian air craft.
Or that the ATC shouldn't have done so.
How about move all these airports out of the cities
@ People don't want to commute to airports.
Or have qualified personnel operating their equipment
@ I assume you mean "unqualified". But, anyway, everyone in the Blackhawk was qualified.
Prayers for all those souls that were lost. 🙏 The Bombardier CRJ has a stellar safety record. Thanks for the video.
Even though ATC handed over the responsibility of seeing and avoiding the ATC controller gets warning and he could have seen in the redar display that these 2 were on collision course but he ignored it and didn't give any warnings. That is pathetic.
Those aircrafts collided only by the rotor blades hitting to the left wing of the plane. Hence the relatively intact fuselages and motors. Most of the crushing came from the sudden meeting with the river bed.
Interesting
I’m not being a jerk but how do you know that very interesting
@@williamgrace3774 At first I got this idea when I was looking closely at collision videos (especially, how the plane instantly lost its right wing - from the opposite side of the helicopters approach, and made 1.25 rolls over its longitudinal axe, all landing lights at the belly still intact and shining, before impacted with the river bed). Then, the radar data about altitudes before the crash confirmed that helicopter was below 250 ft just a dozen seconds before the crash and appeared above 250 ft few seconds before the crash. But there was no significant climbing visible from videos, that were taken from aside. So the helicopter did not reach much over 250 ft, maybe up to ca 270 ft. The flight level is measured from the belly of the aircraft. The helicopter was 18 ft high, maybe a little more when flying, as the rotor blades are bent upwards then. 270+18=288. The plane descended down to 325 +/- 25 ft at the moment of the collision (according to the FDR). Again, measured from the belly. But the plane banked left, as it was turning towards the runway. So its left wing was lower than the belly of the plane. Banking left at 45 degrees makes the tip of the left wing to lower down by ca 13...15 ft. 288+14=302. That's explaining how they collided. The relatively low damage on fuselage walls and engines hints, that there was no head on collision of fuselages. Also, both wrecked air crafts continued shortly on at their previous course, before falling down the sky. Nice and intact right wing of the plane hints, that the helicopter did not ram the plane from the right side. If the plane had sat on top of the helicopter with its tail section, then the left wing of the plane shouldn't have separated so clean and fast in the very first second of the collision in the air, and the right wing should have significant damages from flying debris, as the rotor of the Black Hawk rotates counter clockwise. Simple!
@@williamgrace3774 At first I got this idea when I was looking closely at collision videos (especially, how the plane instantly lost its left wing - from the opposite side of the helicopters approach, and made 1.25 rolls over its longitudinal axe, all landing lights at the belly still intact and shining, before impacted with the river bed). Then, the radar data about altitudes before the crash confirmed that helicopter was below 250 ft just a dozen seconds before the crash and appeared above 250 ft few seconds before the crash. But there was no significant climbing visible from videos, that were taken from aside. So the helicopter did not reach much over 250 ft, maybe up to ca 270 ft. The flight level is measured from the belly of the aircraft. The helicopter was 18 ft high, maybe a little more when flying, as the rotor blades are bent upwards then. 270+18=288. The plane descended down to 325 +/- 25 ft at the moment of the collision (according to the FDR). Again, measured from the belly. But the plane banked left, as it was turning towards the runway. So its left wing was lower than the belly of the plane. Banking left at 45 degrees makes the tip of the left wing to lower down by ca 13...15 ft. 288+14=302. That's explaining how they collided. The relatively low damage on fuselage walls and engines hints, that there was no head on collision of fuselages. Also, both wrecked aircrafts continued shortly on at their previous course, before falling down the sky. Nice and intact right wing of the plane hints, that the helicopter did not ram the plane from the right side. If the plane had sat on top of the helicopter with its tail part, then the left wing shouldn't have separated so clean and fast in the very first second of the collision in the air.
What other part a lower flying helicopter could possibly have collided with? See picture at www.peakpx.com/en/hd-wallpaper-desktop-pnord
If the materials used to make the black box are designed to survive a crash, why not make the entire aircraft out of the same stuff?
I will say, i love the transparency of this NTSB.
If you don't want to be accused of hiding something, then don't act like your hiding something
Jeff Ostroff i love your videos. You go into DETAIL!!! The Champlain towers videos you have are INCREDIBLE!!!! So is this one!!!!
Great video . . Thanks for bringing clarity as the investigation continues , i have subscribed 👍
So glad i found your channel this week. Thank you for your awesome coverage and your common sense.
Praying for the rescue divers. You know they had hopes of saving people and they saw stuff they cannot unsee.
I believe that all of the passengers on the plane were still strapped in their chairs and seatbelts :(, the medical examiner have not mentioned of any 'dismemberments' as far as we know. It would be nice to know this information ... were they all still 'intact?" Also, not to mention that the plane fell 300 something feet below, but again, that's something that should be released to the public.
Why would it be "nice to know" such info??
It's only morbid curiosity that makes anyone apart from close family members want to know.
They died. That's all we need to know. Smh.
@@leenieledejo6849 Totally agree.
Thanks, has to be investigated but I don't think there is much doubt about the fundamental cause.
It's simply not a good idea to have helicopters using visual self clearance, transitioning short final to a major commercial airport especially at night.
Bound to end in tears😢. Its crazy stuff.
@jimgraham6722 Not to mention two different radio frequencies where they communicate with ATC and can't hear each other during that phase when they are sharing the same airspace.
This isn’t the first mid air collision between an Airliner and a military aircraft . Into What used to be Washington national . On November 1 1949 A United DC-4 and a P-38 Collided Killing 55 Miraculously the p-38 pilot survived. Witnesses described the scene as horrific. The tail section of the DC-4 was where the worst of the carnage was found .
The show could never stop!
Thanks for the video. I am just curious what the outcome of this reconstruction and investigation will do. I mean we all saw the collision what exactly the goal of this investigation will tell. Are we kidding ourselves that the video of collision, the radar showing the path of approach of the 2 crafts and the ATC exchange not enough ?
That at 2:40 looks like the NOSE WHEEL FROM THE CRJ on the bed of the truck with the chopper, maybe the chopper collected it in the collision, hence they've lifted it with the chopper wreckage??
nose or wing wheel, perhaps it got sheared off and took a ride with the choppa
I just found out that on 2/15/61 a plane crash took the lives of the entire US figure skating team.
Question...2:34 On the flatbed is what appears to be Left main wheel assembly? Then at 7:50 the right "Main Gear" is still on the wing in the proper position.
If it was near the Black Hawk wreckage in the water, How?
Correction. It did not split in half. The wreckage is crushed from fore to aft by the impact and the rotor transmission and remainder of the blades are hauled up separately. As an Army Warrant Officer, I spent alittle over 900 flight hours in the UH-60 including way back after it was first released and I believe I can spot a lot of where the damaged sections go. Strange haunting feeling.
Not quite sure what the purpose is for inspecting all of the pieces of the wreckage. Its obviously not a mechanical issue that caused the crash.
Hitting water at 100-150 kts is like hitting a concrete wall. In addition to that, the water wasn't very deep there. We all pretty much saw the chopper resting on the river bed.
2:19 this is what 450 hours in a Blackhawk looks like.
You mean, that is what ATC failure to maintain separation looks like. FIFY.
Actually, it was 1500 combined fight hours of 2 Blackhawk pilots that should have seen the CRJ.
@ Their hours flying had nothing to do with seeing or not seeing the CRJ.
@@gandydancer9710 You cant say that. It had nothing to do with it? Nothing? That's not what other pilots have said. It's a very negligible amount, and contributed in some way.
@ I just did say that, so I can. I don't know who these "other pilots" are, but there is literally no evidence that a lack of flying time had anything to do with their inability to pick out the right set of lights from the cross traffic and I don't care to hear what they pull out of their butts.
Thank for the access!
The radar info is relevant and analysis should be looked at and you Jeff should find very interesting information.
Especially in the last minute!
Look at the Altimeter readings!
03 and 04 should prove telling! 0:44 reading shows 03 and 03
No separation between altitudes, and reports of CRJ lift before noticed in other blogs!
Good Jeff!
Condolences All Families concerned and consideration of their losses!
They said they had the helicopter black box in their last update.. but no download of voice recorder yet?
The impact is quite strong to deformed the cockpit of the helicopter. If the helicopter is flying at slower speed, the collision may have been avoided. There are several ways to prevent future disaster. (1) Ban night helicopter flight around the airport (2) Ban helicopter flight around the airport when the visibility is low. (3) Ban the usage of runway 33, which cause the plane and helicopter towards a collision path. (4) Relocate the airport to another location without military bases.
1) They won't and shouldn't, considering the proximity to the Pentagon, White House, Capitol, etc. 2)They shouldn't. Night flying may be essential. 3) No, it's needed for smaller planes 4)Not necessary. Any changes should not be made out of emotion but rather logic and fact. And the fact is, this area has worked for decades.
If PAT 14/7/365 is a required function (1) & (2) are out.
Easier than (3) or (4) is just getting the ATC to actually exercise control.
Move all these airports out of the cities
@ People don't want to commute long distances to airports. It defeats the purpose of having airports.
Heartbreaking to see. RIP
When in the Air Force, I had to recover a C-130 that crashed performing a low altitude extraction during an airshow. As stated in this video, all the pieces were brought to a hangar for inspection, etc. There had to be a security person posted 24 - 7, three rotating shifts in the hangar. One morning when we arrived to get or trucks and gather more debris, the lone SP came walking very fast up to us and said that he was so glad we were there because all night he was hearing weird noises and seeing moving shadows. I felt sorry for the guy, and amused at the same time. However, I just don't know how he put up with the smell.
This is impressive!
Are there any videos of the plane being recovered?
Hi
Thank you for excellent narration! Great voice for it ! Sad aftermath of a shocking air disaster all are focussed on!😮
Chilling!🙏😢
Q: About the Key Bridge have they started on building a replacement for it?
They ar ein early stages of design with contractors picked out and coming up with concepts
Someone tell me why youtube videos are being taken down done by professional pilots about the dc crash. Tell me why this story is almost nonexistent all of a sudden.
Because it happened 10 days ago and everyone has moved on.
@Plutodog-c9c no, their videos were literally taken down.
@Plutodog-c9c also, what is wrong with you. 67 people are dead and you've moved on?
High up forces want to cover this up
Captain Steve! His was amaxong
Waste of time and resources to inspect that jet. What do they expect to find? It was fully functional and on approach. It was struck by the helicopter due to helicopter pilot error.
A total waste of money, the helicopter flew into the jet. The NTSB must have nothing to do.
wow imagine if all people were lazy like yourself. Cheesus
Yea her…….
This is why you are not in the investigation business.
@@martinwhite418funny thing is, I kind of am.
They're going to forensically inspect every bit of that to see if they can find out why military helicopters are allowed to fly across the path of airliners coming into land.
I don't understand all the time consumed on the parts, other than figuring out which craft hit the other. This was a collision accident without doubt, so determining who was at fault is the only issue I see that's important. Having an airport at that location was a large contributing factor. It appears to me that the controller allowed the planes on final to stack up to the point of having to direct the airliner to do a side-step maneuver over to the shorter runway. That action placed the plane and helicopter on a collision course.
wow bro thanks for bringing us all this info
When I saw the mangled remains of the aircrafts that were loaded onto the trailers, I thought how are they going to salvage and extract the data and check the control panels, switches, electonics, relays, hydraulics and other components? Hats off to the NTSB !
When the pilot banked away from chopper the outer tip of the wing goes much lower than the fuselage. That puts the chopper not as high as the fuselage.
In one of the earliest analysis of the crash, in the ATC recording of the chopper, at the end, after the last “”visual separation “, there was a sudden, long gasp ( from the chopper) .. Hearing it I first thought: Wait a minute.. what was that .. before realising it was the gasp before the crash .. In no other video or recording ever I heard it again.. but read somewhere its mention so I know it was not my imagination.. These last gasp is forever etched in my memory😭
I think the gasp came from the ATC (background person, not the one communicating).
Why are they going through all of that debris It's not like anything failed on the plane or helicopter that caused the crash I could see if it was mechanical error, it was not the helicopter rammed into the plane It was pilot error Obviously so the question is what was she thinking when she flew into the plane
Those fibers being being all that's left of most of those blades on the helo's main prop - and yet that one blade looks relatively unscathed.
Very surprising
At first the news was reporting that the Blackhawk did not have a black box, now they are saying that it does. Which is correct? And why did the news initially report pulling 3-4 people (not bodies) out of the water, then they said all died?
You haven't learned to not believe anything said by a "reporter"?
@ I always listen with a grain of salt and from the conspiracy angle.
@@Aviatrix14 No non-bodies were pulled from the water.
Early hawks had no recorders.
I know this probably sounds dumb, but I wonder if there was anything left of the passenger's items left in overhead where they were sitting maybe something for the families to hold on forever, I know it's probably a long shot, but you just never know. my heart goes out too everyone involved, and it should have never happened.
The families would have items anyways...as these were travellers, with clothing, books, and their cell phone; all their other worldly possessions would be back, where they live... the families would still have momentoes of their loved ones, and pictures, etc.
Looking at the mangled mess and wondering how theyve ever pieced together past accidents. 😢
8:36 that is the impact area where the H 60 hit. Right side peeled up and over to the left side the round area on the lowest hanging sheet metal is the 1st contact and the fuselage skin peeled open as the helicopter passed through making what you see here. The tail then left the CRJ ...An H 60 deliberate act
Remote controlled? Honestly I don't see how they could of retrieved any bodies out of that helicopter unless they were using a spoon.
I’m a simple man. I see a Jeff Ostroff video, I watch it.
I could understand all this if there was a malfunction, but the real question is why did it happen? Pilot error?
Great video!
When you did the Condo Towers, did you do experiments with concrete blocks, plywood and your cats helped? Your voice sounds the same. But you didn’t have a studio then. I learned so much from those videos.
LOl you are thinking of that other guy, who spends a lot of time accusing everyone from copying from him, although he copies from the news all the time.
How the hell did they get the bodies out of that chopper.
Good point , I don’t think they did
Notice there was also a main gear from the airplane on the truck.
This is what happens when pilots don't obey the rules. Night vision? Ever check an altimeter? Balogna. So safe . Whatever. I would not board a commercial or any flight for all the tea in China. Not worth the risks.
Remarkably intact? Maybe the tail section, but otherwise it’s hardly recognizable. Not sure what you’re looking at.
Depressing for the personnel recovering these Blackhawk pieces. But my heart goes out to Blackhawk pilots all over the world who are seeing such an awesome machine smashed like a piece of crunched tinfoil. Must be thinking about their own vulnerabilities when they see something like this..
That female pilot needs to be investigated
Why do you say that
@ A Biden DEI hire..
The others weren't just along for the ride.
@ But she was the pilot flying the helicopter
Everyone is suddenly an expert in here.......
Good work Jeff, I’m not a pilot and surely not placing blame on anyone, we have to wait for the NTSB but why didn’t or couldn’t the ATC observe that the helo and the plane were on a collision course? I’m just curious, thanks
Fromt he ATC audio it sounds like the controller was confirming with the Black Hawk if they saw the plane. The Black Hawk said yes, but maybe it was a plane taking off, or maybe it was another plane in the background that they saw. I feel the controller could have told the Black Hawk to hover, or circle for a minute, and to avoid the plane, and ask for a confirmation of their altitude
@@jeffostroffThat’s what I was thinking, if the pilots reply didn’t line up with the ATC’s real time info then why not question the helo’s pilot observation. Like I said I’m just curious, thanks Jeff
ATC could and did see that the two were on a collision course, at 00:41 in the video is display from the ATC radar, You have both aircraft Id's on the first line and then you have the altitude and speed (cycles between speed and aircraft type) of each on the second lines, as you step through you see the H-60 change altitude. The "CA" in Orange is the Collision Alert indication to the ATC. The timing of this will be lined up with the audio recording and the data recorders on each aircraft.
There should have been vertical separation so that one passed beneath the other although their paths crossed. Sadly something went wrong and they were both at the same altitude.RIP to the deceased
@@jeffostroff I think that's one of the holes in the Swiss cheese model
Wild in some photos helicopter looked in tact
Couldn't imagine being one of the passengers in that plane that may have seen that helicopter darting straight at them just before impact. Then absolutely no one knew what hit them and were probably dead the moment they hit the ground in one second of terror.
They got chopped up by the help rotor blade my man... it hit the side of the plane and NOT head on. Everones body got chopped up b the blade, just like in a blender
@@KiKiS2023 You have a vivid imagination, completely disconnected from reality.
And, btw, the CRJ ran down the Blackhawk.
No, the chopper blades could not and did not Cuisinart the CRJ's passenger spaces.
I would like to know if the UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter was equipped with a mechanical altimeter and if it did, whether the instrument survived sufficiently to determine the altimeter setting at the time of the collision. There are conflicting reports of the helicopter's AGL altitude when it crashed into the airliner. If it had an all-glass cockpit, would an altimeter setting be retrievable from the flight data recorder?
Presumably it had a RADAR altimeter. No reason to imagine that the FDR wouldn't have recorded the reading.
Just so you know, there are 2 engines on a blackhawk.
The thing you saw with half a rotor blade is the rotor hub and transmission.
Helo came from the right side looks like it maybe hit the bottom of the CRJ as it was turning away. The left wing came off not the right one so Im guessing the Helo broke the CRJ right at the spar then bounced downward and into the drink. All a maybe.