At the New Zealand War Museum people donate their departed’s war medals. There are hundreds in these huge drawers. Their names are listed with their medals permanently. Showing the various medals reminded me of that. Very nice addition tonight.Your little guy has to be getting excited, Santa is coming soon. I hope he brings you much joy and happiness. Have a great week E.
@@shipwrecksunday QEII National Army Museum, Waiouru, North Island, New Zealand. The Auckland War Memorial Museum, also has a respository of medals. The Army Museum has a large collection of NZ's VCs as well. The memorial to Magnusson is at Auckland's Waikumete Cemetery, my uncle (DoW WW2, 1941) also rests there.
Respects, we lost our grandfather on board HMS Celendine in1943 never to meet his son, our father. Great love and light to New Zealand from your family here in Liverpool.🎚️☘️📚🎅👍
The nickname "Tommy" for a British soldier came about as a result of the soldier's pay book. The fictitious name of Tommy Aitkens was used as an example to show the men how to correctly fill out the book in the nineteenth century and it stuck around until fairly recently. I don't know why they bothered because most of the rank and file at that time were illiterate, including both of my own grandfathers who fought at the Somme and a great uncle who is buried at Twelve Tree Copse Cemetery on Gallipoli. He was with the 10th Irish Division and sailed on the SS Andania, for a second I thought you were talking about his ship. (my memory isn't what it was lol). I'm not sure when the Tommy nickname died out but it was no longer in use by the seventies when I enlisted.
"Total badassery right there." Great line! The allies were fortunate to not lose their larger troopships during the two World Wars, such as Leviathan, Aquitania, Olympic, Queen Mary, and Queen Elizabeth.
Just hit my feed line! Thanks for the content, love your delivery of it! I huge ship and sub fan, also a old US Navy sailor who was stationed at NASNI in HS-8 assigned to the carrier USS Constellation CV-64 did a west pac and nor-pac and several cruises on her! I love this type of history, and your can tell your well versed on the subject matter. Thanks and look forward to going thru your prior content
3:05 Carbonic anhydride is an over-the-top old school British way of saying frozen Carbon Dioxide. It's still used as a refrigerant today in some industrial applications.
@@Johngabe100 thank you so much, my friend! We can learn so much from older generations. Sometimes, younger generations don't appreciate that, but you really can learn a lot from discussion with people outside your age group! I appreciate you being here weekly! Cheers!
Thank you Elinor for another fascinating video. I was especially interested in your mention of the New Zealand Mounted Rifle Brigade. They were part of the army that drove the Turks from the shores of the Suez Canal to deep inside Syria. There is a statue of one of them near where I live in Otahuhu Auckland. Going to have to research that man you mentioned.
@@brianspendelow840 I will have to look into the Mounted Rifle Brigade more! Thank you so much my friend! Let me know if you have any suggestions for any future episodes, as well! Cheers!
@@shipwrecksunday I think thge wreck of the General Grant 1866 would be a good story for you to cover. The survival of the castaways against the odds and the recovery of the gold, should interest a wide range of people.
Hello Elinor. Enjoyed this episode especially since I have always been interested in sinkings during the wars. I guess that's because one of my father's friends, Domingo, was in the Merchant Marine during WW2. He was assigned to different ships since 2 of the ones he was on was torpedoed by the Germans and one of those was also attacked by planes out of occupied France. I was just a little brat about 9 -10 years old and loved to ask Domingo questions about the war. Last week I asked you about sharks and shipwrecks. I was wondering if you would consider doing a show about 2 horrible sinkings during WW2. Both of these sinkings rival the USS Indianapolis for horror at sea. The two I'm thinking of are the SS Cape San Juan and the RMS Nova Scotia. I continue to look forward to my favorite Sunday program...... actually my favorite program PERIOD.😊❤
@@SuperMAZ007 I think in some ways it was. Mustard gas on land was definitely horrific and we cannot discount it, but war on the sea had moments of being uglier for sure.
@@shipwrecksunday I agree with you Elinor. The so called Poison war(Gift Krieg in German) on the frontlines was one of the worst things of ww 1. Unfortunately people have forgotten the dangers and effects of gas warfare. The aftermath of unexploded chemical shells can be still felt and see all over zone Rouge. If there is something that has been never talked much is how many sailors perished because of lack of training or just being unable to be rescued from the sinking ship. U boat crews where the most in danger cause when it got hit it meant zero chance of survival.
I'm with you, it would be interesting to know who ordered her to follow the trawler, even more than 107 years afterward! It is an act of cowardice to torpedo any ship in the act of rescue, even if it's a destroyer. They knew what was going on! Some very brave heroes! On a lighter note, what's your favorite Ben & Jerry's 😂😂 Mine are Cherry Garcia, half baked cookie dough, & strawberry cheesecake 😂😂😂 My Dr would cringe with me even mentioning it, being in pre-diabetes range😂😂😂
@@Chevyman02 half baked cookie dough and thick mint for the win 😂😂 my doctor would probably just sigh and not be surprised! 😂 I would love to know why she was ordered out of port, but I don't think there was an enquiry ordered, sadly.
warships don't stop being warships because they are taking on survivors. attack by enemy subs while stopped was a known risk to all combatants in both world wars.
@ doesn’t change the fact that RAR activities are a uniquely cowardly time to attack a ship. Irregardless of it was a known risk there are some calls a skipper ought not to make. What would sinking one destroyer accomplish? Submarines were under orders not to attack them in the first place. I think in the face of commonality you forget that just because it was one of many doesn’t make it right
@@Constance_tinople Germany was conducting an *announced* policy of unrestricted submarine warfare at this time (all ships, civilian or military liable to attack without warning) and if there was a order not to attack destroyers, I'd like to see a source. Sinking "one destroyer" does not need justification. Ships in convoy were under orders not to stop to rescue survivors of sinking ships and if this were ever done it only for a few minutes for reasons that should appear obvious. This was a rule learned the hard way. As for HMS Attack, stopping and tying up to Aragon to render aid while there was a active submarine threat, while noble, was foolish. By late 1917, that is how the naval war was fought. It was brutal an inhumane and would get far worse in WW2 where machine gunning of survivors of ship sinkings and rescue ships was routine.
Please, please, please spell and grammar check whatever results come out of the speech recognition software you use! It can't take all that long for a twenty minute video.
At the New Zealand War Museum people donate their departed’s war medals. There are hundreds in these huge drawers. Their names are listed with their medals permanently. Showing the various medals reminded me of that. Very nice addition tonight.Your little guy has to be getting excited, Santa is coming soon. I hope he brings you much joy and happiness. Have a great week E.
That is fascinating! I would love to see all of those medals one day. My son is getting super excited for Christmas!! Cheers!
@@shipwrecksunday QEII National Army Museum, Waiouru, North Island, New Zealand. The Auckland War Memorial Museum, also has a respository of medals. The Army Museum has a large collection of NZ's VCs as well. The memorial to Magnusson is at Auckland's Waikumete Cemetery, my uncle (DoW WW2, 1941) also rests there.
Respects, we lost our grandfather on board HMS Celendine in1943 never to meet his son, our father. Great love and light to New Zealand from your family here in Liverpool.🎚️☘️📚🎅👍
The nickname "Tommy" for a British soldier came about as a result of the soldier's pay book. The fictitious name of Tommy Aitkens was used as an example to show the men how to correctly fill out the book in the nineteenth century and it stuck around until fairly recently. I don't know why they bothered because most of the rank and file at that time were illiterate, including both of my own grandfathers who fought at the Somme and a great uncle who is buried at Twelve Tree Copse Cemetery on Gallipoli. He was with the 10th Irish Division and sailed on the SS Andania, for a second I thought you were talking about his ship. (my memory isn't what it was lol). I'm not sure when the Tommy nickname died out but it was no longer in use by the seventies when I enlisted.
@@davymckeown4577 thank you so much for clarifying that! I appreciate the insight, and I thank your grandfathers for their service!
@shipwrecksunday Thank you for telling the story of some of the men and women who served alongside them. I hadn't heard of this incident previously.
What a wonderful, horrible, important story. Thank you so much for bringing this to us Elinor!
@@ToTheLeftOfBernie thank you so much for watching!
"Total badassery right there." Great line! The allies were fortunate to not lose their larger troopships during the two World Wars, such as Leviathan, Aquitania, Olympic, Queen Mary, and Queen Elizabeth.
Absolutely!
Thank you Elinor. I look forward each Sunday to your ship stories and this is from 71 year old US navy sailor.
@@politicsuncensored5617 thank you so much for being here!!
and dont forget fridays too
Thank you Elinor!!!
@@richardchiriboga4424 thank you so much for watching, my friend! Cheers!
Another new and interesting story. Thank You.
@@robinwiddrington5765 thank you so much for watching!
great story Elinor, very well done. thank you. see ya friday. 😎💚💙👍👍🍺🍺🍻
@@walterathow5988 thank you so much, my friend! Cheers!
Just hit my feed line! Thanks for the content, love your delivery of it! I huge ship and sub fan, also a old US Navy sailor who was stationed at NASNI in HS-8 assigned to the carrier USS Constellation CV-64 did a west pac and nor-pac and several cruises on her! I love this type of history, and your can tell your well versed on the subject matter. Thanks and look forward to going thru your prior content
Also love the pre-LOTR books use of Aragon one of my favorite characters
@@GhostofSicklesleg thank you so much for your service, and for being here! ❤️
Excellent episode!!! Keep up the awesomesauce! 🖖👍
@@nagjrcjasonbower thank you my friend! Cheers! 😁😁
3:05 Carbonic anhydride is an over-the-top old school British way of saying frozen Carbon Dioxide. It's still used as a refrigerant today in some industrial applications.
I see! Thank you for this!
What a great video keep it up!
@@McDonnellDouglass thank you so much!
A fine telling !
@@oldhick9047 thank you so much!!
Great job. Hope you have a wonderful holidays. I’m just an old man but enjoy each week spending time with you. It important what you do. Thank you.
@@Johngabe100 thank you so much, my friend! We can learn so much from older generations. Sometimes, younger generations don't appreciate that, but you really can learn a lot from discussion with people outside your age group! I appreciate you being here weekly! Cheers!
Awesome video well done 👏
@@ozziemederos thank you so much!!
Welcome back Elinor this outta be good 👍
@@Vet-7174 thank you so much!! 😁😁
Thank you Elinor for another fascinating video. I was especially interested in your mention of the New Zealand Mounted Rifle Brigade. They were part of the army that drove the Turks from the shores of the Suez Canal to deep inside Syria. There is a statue of one of them near where I live in Otahuhu Auckland. Going to have to research that man you mentioned.
@@brianspendelow840 I will have to look into the Mounted Rifle Brigade more! Thank you so much my friend! Let me know if you have any suggestions for any future episodes, as well! Cheers!
@@shipwrecksunday I think thge wreck of the General Grant 1866 would be a good story for you to cover. The survival of the castaways against the odds and the recovery of the gold, should interest a wide range of people.
@brianspendelow840 I love it! I'll look into her!
Hello Elinor. Enjoyed this episode especially since I have always been interested in sinkings during the wars. I guess that's because one of my father's friends, Domingo, was in the Merchant Marine during WW2. He was assigned to different ships since 2 of the ones he was on was torpedoed by the Germans and one of those was also attacked by planes out of occupied France. I was just a little brat about 9 -10 years old and loved to ask Domingo questions about the war.
Last week I asked you about sharks and shipwrecks. I was wondering if you would consider doing a show about 2 horrible sinkings during WW2. Both of these sinkings rival the USS Indianapolis for horror at sea. The two I'm thinking of are the SS Cape San Juan and the RMS Nova Scotia. I continue to look forward to my favorite Sunday program...... actually my favorite program PERIOD.😊❤
@@mikealvarez2322 I can definitely look into them for sure! Thank you so much!
How is your pup? A Husky is a hand full, especially when they are young. I had chewed up router cables to a chewed up IPad 🤣
@@andreaslermen2008 she is doing great! Getting into everything again! 😂
God bless
@@BestFriendOfJesus God bless!
NO WAY MY ANIMATION IS TEASERED! :D
@@teamtripledent31nextgentls94 absolutely! ❤️
@@shipwrecksunday AND PLEASE TELL ME YOU'RE GONNA DO FUSO FOR THE WEEK AFTER SO BOTH SISTER'S STORIES CAN BE TOLD NEXT TO EACHOTHER'S EPISODES!
@teamtripledent31nextgentls94 not the next week, but definitely in January! And both animations will be featured!
Text books in schools talk less about sea warfare than land warfare of ww I and II. However the sea warfare seems to have been even more brutal.
@@SuperMAZ007 I think in some ways it was. Mustard gas on land was definitely horrific and we cannot discount it, but war on the sea had moments of being uglier for sure.
@@shipwrecksunday I agree with you Elinor. The so called Poison war(Gift Krieg in German) on the frontlines was one of the worst things of ww 1. Unfortunately people have forgotten the dangers and effects of gas warfare. The aftermath of unexploded chemical shells can be still felt and see all over zone Rouge. If there is something that has been never talked much is how many sailors perished because of lack of training or just being unable to be rescued from the sinking ship. U boat crews where the most in danger cause when it got hit it meant zero chance of survival.
Tech note: The steam turbines of that day could not be reberse, so there's that.
@@mellissadalby1402 good point!
I'm with you, it would be interesting to know who ordered her to follow the trawler, even more than 107 years afterward!
It is an act of cowardice to torpedo any ship in the act of rescue, even if it's a destroyer. They knew what was going on! Some very brave heroes!
On a lighter note, what's your favorite Ben & Jerry's 😂😂
Mine are Cherry Garcia, half baked cookie dough, & strawberry cheesecake 😂😂😂
My Dr would cringe with me even mentioning it, being in pre-diabetes range😂😂😂
@@Chevyman02 half baked cookie dough and thick mint for the win 😂😂 my doctor would probably just sigh and not be surprised! 😂
I would love to know why she was ordered out of port, but I don't think there was an enquiry ordered, sadly.
@shipwrecksunday I forgot the thick mint🤣🤣🤣lol
Sinking a destroyer that is visible taking on life rafts and rescue boats is absolutely horrid to me. I have no respect for those submariners
I agree with you whole-heartedly. It was cold and cowardly.
Yeah. There's no justification for engaging with a ship that is clearly involved in SAR operations, military or not. It's inexcusable and indefensibe.
warships don't stop being warships because they are taking on survivors. attack by enemy subs while stopped was a known risk to all combatants in both world wars.
@ doesn’t change the fact that RAR activities are a uniquely cowardly time to attack a ship. Irregardless of it was a known risk there are some calls a skipper ought not to make. What would sinking one destroyer accomplish? Submarines were under orders not to attack them in the first place. I think in the face of commonality you forget that just because it was one of many doesn’t make it right
@@Constance_tinople Germany was conducting an *announced* policy of unrestricted submarine warfare at this time (all ships, civilian or military liable to attack without warning) and if there was a order not to attack destroyers, I'd like to see a source. Sinking "one destroyer" does not need justification. Ships in convoy were under orders not to stop to rescue survivors of sinking ships and if this were ever done it only for a few minutes for reasons that should appear obvious. This was a rule learned the hard way. As for HMS Attack, stopping and tying up to Aragon to render aid while there was a active submarine threat, while noble, was foolish. By late 1917, that is how the naval war was fought. It was brutal an inhumane and would get far worse in WW2 where machine gunning of survivors of ship sinkings and rescue ships was routine.
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@@joeanderson9852 😁😁😁
Please, please, please spell and grammar check whatever results come out of the speech recognition software you use! It can't take all that long for a twenty minute video.
Hi! It's me - my own voice. AI altered videos on TH-cam are always marked, and this one is not. Feel free to find a different channel!
Love your work guys its always very interesting and informative thank you so much l love old ships 😊😊😊
@@markmccann5711 thank you so much for watching!! Cheers!