Rodri’s Injury: Has It Made Arsenal the New Title Favorites?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ย. 2024
- How do Man City adapt to Rodri’s absence? Will this be Arsenal’s best chance to win the league? Will teams go after Man City a little bit more now?
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I did my ACL a few years ago. There was almost no pain, but it immediately felt 'not right', no stability. The biggest barriers to get over are mental. The physical rehabilitation is the 'easy' part - trusting your knee fully when you play again is a nightmare, you pull out of tackles etc. It's long road to recovery.
im not a player, but i had a quad tendon rupture last year, i concur with you about "not trusting" your knee for a long time. Not fun at all!
How do people today still get knee injuries? You do realise there’s programs to strengthen your knees the same as anything else, look up kneesOverToesGuy if you follow that everyday your knees will be literally invincible just nobody trains them for some reason
100% this. I did mine a few years ago. Felt like my knee was gonna slide off every time I tried to walk on it. But yeah, the mental aspect of recovery and rehab was awful; you're hesitant to run, go into tackles, stretch for a ball. The impact on my family was hard too: they had to do a lot for me the first few weeks. I eventually quit playing because I didn't want to put them through that again.
Get on with it mate plenty of worse things going on in the world you're still alive so happy days
A volley is hitting the ball before it bounces,a half volley is like Gary said hitting the ball just as it bounces,and hitting it when it’s bouncing is just hitting a bouncing ball,if you used to play headers and volleys you know.
If the ball bounces it’s not a volley 😂 I’m with you micah lol 😂
what if it bounces up to a metre ?
Half-Volley
If it bounces once or twice and it is still relatively high enough off the ground AFTER the bounce. It's a half volley
If you kick it once it’s bounced then that’s a half volley but if u kick without a bounce then it’s a volley the 2 oldies are wrong on this one ☝️ lol 😂
Meeks is spot on, if it bounces it's not a volley-simple as
These three have holding back laughs on the train.
Love the Volley conversation 😅
Rodri came back from the euros injured.
He probably didn’t recover well enough and then missed pre season. I’m not surprised he got injured.
ACL has nothing to do with fatigue though, which was his main complaint (I know it's not what you are suggesting) and you certainly can't make a case that it was fatigue 10 minutes into a match. I actually did my ACL in pre-season, Timber did his in the first game of last season far Arsenal. This is because ACL injuries are mostly prevented by having sufficient muscle support around the knee and ironically the break Rodri has had probably contributed to a lack of that.
Of course it has something to do with fatigue, especially if it's innocuous. Rest and recovery, muscle patterning can contribute too
@@thrilla72 It wasn't innocuous though, he went to ground and jarred his knee. This was a freak injury
19:08 love how the example Micah gives for Gary Lineker playing in bigger games is the North London derby…easy to forget Gary has famously scored a hat trick in an el Classico, eh Big Meeks!? 😂😂
and the Merseyside Derby back when Everton were actually competing with Liverpool for league titles instead of relegation.
@@angel102ify yes, very true! 👍
Regarding the ‘delaying the restart’ I would follow the rugby direction, if you delay the restart the restart moves 10 yds forward. It is not foul play, it is not dangerous, it’s is gamesmanship and should not be classed as a card worthy offence.
they tried it 20 odd years ago & was a disaster - defenders cottoned on quickly that moving the ball closer at 30 yards against Beckham etc reduced the odds of him scoring significantly
Maybe then give opposition the right to relocate within a 10 yard radius?
The Trossard 2nd yellow is funny when you see that freeze frame with the whistle on the ref's mouth and Trossard's leg already in motion. Just how robotic is game going?
Not just the refs who aren't consistent. Shearer mentions trossard's barge like it was relevant. He agrees with ref's decision on doku but is questioning ref's decision on the barge. Not to forget haaland's two barges. Gary neville said ref ruined the game when mane hospitalised ederson but is applauding the ref now. What do they actually want
Rodri warn us 😂😂😂. Klopp has been warning us for years.
Quick quick. How can I make this about Liverpool.. people have been warning about the number of fixtures since the 90s.. when the champions league format changed..
@@Tren365Rage🤣🤣🤣
Let’s make this about the bin dippers , as usual 😬
@@MCFC-rp6csooh let’s make fun of poverty. I am such a cool and edgy 35 year old 😂
It facts though now you want to cry with pep mancs who are unemployed for 10 years @MCFC-rp6cs
I don't understand people who are saying things like "footballers are paid too much money to complaint about playing too much football".
Yes they are highly paid, but that does not mean you put them through 70-80 games a year at the top top level. With the extra games CL format & now the FIFA's greedy Club World Cup, top players who play for a big club & nation will probably get 1 summer off in the next 4 years. (As a Barcelona fan, with the amount of injuries the team is going through, I am so so glad Barcelona didn't qualify for the world cup next summer)
This is beyong ridiculous, clubs will have to take a stand to protect their own assets (the players). They can not be greedy about playing more and more matches for potential money, or everyone needs to have a squad where you employee 50 footballers for the level of football your club plays and you have heavily rotated teams.
It’s very simple why people say the players are the ones at fault. On average 70% of the gross revenues are going to the players salaries. This means teams have to find more and more revenue sources which means more and more games.
If players were willing to take less money in exchange for game limits, teams would sign those deals every time. But players don’t. They want ever escalating salaries but then they want to complain about what’s required to pay those salaries. Teams are not demanding they go back into the coal mines so they can get more 100 pound notes to light their cigars with, they are barely keeping their necks above insolvency. For players to turn around and demand they play less games for more money is psychotically delusional.
You do realise that top clubs have big squads. Rotate. Though I still want the Nations league scrapped. It has no prestige & nothing more than a money spinner.
@@matthewjamisonpeople say “rotate” but then your team rotates , loses a game and you’ll complain that we should be playing the best 11
@Hhammer You don't need to rotate the whole 11 each match. It's all about management. Swap out 2/3 players when players need protected. And there's 5 subs now. So they can drag more players off to freshen things up during the match & have them ready to start again the next game.
There are plenty of youth players who can come in to play. The clubs do not have to play certain players through 40-70 games.
When the ball comes to you without hitting the floor and you kick the ball is a volley. And if the ball comes to you but hits the floor before you kick the ball is a half volley up to chest high. Over chest high is an overhead kick. Micah is correct I'm with him.
In my youtube feed, literally above this video is a SkySports post on Rodri. Ligament injury to his right knee. 💀
Love how Alan tried to jog off an ACL. Classic.
This show was so refreshing and I love how funny all three of them are
Micah, the only one with proper answer to the question to which team he would have liked to play for
To be fair Shearer did follow up with the Liverpool team of Dalglish, Souness etc
I can't understand Shearer not wanting to play for Sunderland. We love him on Wearside he gets a mention every single game we play 😉
Micah is right on the volley. In tennis a half volley is considered after the bounce, while its rising, before it hits the apex.
But like he’s saying, it doesn’t go from Volley, Half Volley back to a Volley again once it reaches a certain height.
Micah's "awww f**k off" under is breath was perfect 😅
My top 3 non football would definitely include Usain Bolt! Man’s an icon!
A volley is when the ball is moving towards the ground
A half volley is when the ball is moving away from the ground after a bounce.
Greatest sportsman outside of football? - Wayne Gretzky needs a shout
Klopp warned us years ago when Liverpool had a load of injuries that ruined our season and everyone told him to just get on with it and stop complaining ... Now everyone is talking about it , the agenda against Liverpool is crazy.
My god, Newcastle had with two of their centre backs last season getting ACL's and not a dicky bird from anyone but considering it's Rodri. Bore off.
Why should the bigger games get special treatment? The rules are the rules Micah. This is the problem with the Premier League. All games should be treated fairly and evenly.
for trossard and incidents like this is where this blue card law should come in place. you kick the ball like that u spend some time out of the match but not a red
Great answers on the side you’d play in from any era. I guessed Alan’s and it made me beam. Love Meeks answer and banter.
Micah is right. Half volley if it bounces, Volley if it hasn't.
A volley is simple. If the ball is crossed without hitting the ground and you hit it, it’s a volley. If the ball bounces up before you hit it, it’s a simple shot. If a ball is passed/crossed…and as the ball hits the ground you hit it, it’s a half volley. It’s not difficult. 😂
Nah a volley needs to NOT touch the ground from a pass.. if it bounces it’s not a volley, can’t believe Alan and Gary’s take , though I agree a half volley is just after the bounce ..but if it bounces higher it’s just neither.. didn’t think I’d be agreeing with Micah on that one
Players will always get injured, hes not the first nor last . Rodri out of the season is a massive blow to City , hes probably best in his position in the world right now, well ... he was, we will see how he will be after the injury.
The best atmosphere at any event sporting event is the All Ireland hurling Final
gary uve never been carded in a era where EVERYONE got carded legend but to think he's never had to go threw that as a WC player for 15yr must be in Guinness records
WHAT about something that is NEVER mentioned by pundits or for that matter anyone who plays the game, that is ALL the MAULING that goes on in the penalty box when defenders continually wrap their arms around the opposition..I know that the game is a PHYSICAL game but is that at the VERY LEAST OBSTRUCTION?
Haaland was able to have a proper break because Norway weren't in the Euro 24 finals and he is on fire now...
"Rodri’s Injury: Has It Made LIVERPOOL the New Title Favorites?"
Fixed it for you 🙂
Despicable to see and hear rivals online celebrate rodri’s injury.
How is that most pundits seems to think if it’s isn’t city, it’s gonna be arsenal, Liverpool? Chelsea?
Micah's hairline is becoming more and more lego like every week. Pure action man vibes hahaha
My buddy had it once. He went through an operation to repair his knee. I visited him and joked. He can't play a pro. At least he gets injured like one.😅
De bruynes fitness has never been the same since his acl injury, worried for rodris sake
Nice to see the man city finally admit his main love is arsenal
Last season it was cool when the referee didn’t want to spoil the game and this season it’s the referees are under pressure. Not even these guys are consistent so we can’t really expect much from the refs even at a high level
Guys, Rodri's injury is Arsenal's fault. Apparently, Havertz started it, and Partey finished it...or, at least, that is what some City fans calling in on Talksport want the world to believe.
Well Pep doesn't believe that. Guardiola was asked if he thought Arsenal had targeted Rodri, with Kai Havertz having barged into him at the start of the game. “No,” he said. “I didn’t speak with him [Rodri, about this], hopefully he thinks the same as me.”
PGMOL is NOT doing a fantastic job. Micah has to suck up
The Injury had nothing to do with the games played. If he had played 70 or 80 games sure I'd say maybe but to get injured like that is a fluke so don't try to bs us to push some rubbish agenda
I always thought a volley is when the ball before it hits the ground so I'm with Micah
Yep Micah right if ball doesn’t bounce it’s a volley if it does bounce it’s a half volley
The volley topic… Alan and Gary are right, but they’re all missing the term full volley.
Its a serious injury for Rodri, hope he gets well.
I hurt my back at work once, couldn’t make my work and lost out on my minimum wages that were not paid, I’m very much sure a millionaire football player that has the best doctors will be fine….
17:57 the best way to fix this issue? Stop kicking the ball away. Easy
Alan theres literally less than a second from when Trossard kicked the ball and youre here saying Trossard, in that 1 second, is considering what Rice did and make an intentional decision to keep playing. Its a reaction to play martinelli in you cmon you melt
A volley is no bounces a half volley is one or more bounces. No arguments.
Hopefully they’ll cut these useless international breaks and friendlies. running off to the national teams less than two weeks into the clubs seasons is beyond dumb. The top players being worn down the most
Good to see the older gen of players starting to support the current guys on this
Start to a season, 11 from 11? Yes, but I am not 100% sure. I think another ex Aberdeen manager had 12 wins out of the first 12, but lost the title to Liverpool. 85-86.
Team Micah, if it bounces its a half volley but hard to argue with the GOATs
Consistency is not even shown by the same referee in the same match so their argument that it’s different referees view is crap.
When I watch all these podcasts it clear why the English need foreign coaches and players to give the premier league substance, it’s all so simple and focused on individuals who are one day the best and the other day garbage, never any nuance, never the big picture, it’s just like how the english team plays football, just blind running
BBC going hysterical over this Rodri injury. All day yesterday on the BBC Football website and today. And now on this podcast. More coverage than.......... enter here.
Don't forget Fergie had a successful stint at St Mirren, managing them to the First Division title, before things soured dramatically, prior to moving onto Aberdeen.
Also...........did Meeks call them Chicago Bills or did I mishear that?!
35 minutes ball in play 2nd half. Well done Arsenal.
Daley Thompson without doubt in the top 3.
Can't argue you want consistency in one breath, then say, "oh, but in BIG games..." in the next. What's a big game to a City fan isn't to an Arsenal fan.
Oh, and a volley hasn't touched the floor yet, surely! a la volleyball.
Problem is Sobozali wasn't given aa 2nd yellow card, Jao Pedro wasn't carded, Doku wasn't carded. So when Arsenal have had 2 players sent off for it and nobody else has even had one, of course there will be questions.
Micah has clearly never seen a Euroleague Playoff match, NBA best atmosphere pfft
I always thought it's a half volley if it's bounced, no matter the height!
Alan obviously deep down wishes he had joined Utd but just can't admit it 🤣
is not a half volley similar to a dropped goal kick in RFU ?
Can the question and answers be an hour long best episode!!
Wenger said this years ago
Cracking episode I was in stitches ❤
Garfield Sobers was more 1960’s Gary
He retired in 1974!
Can’t believe the trossard convo is still happening .. he deserved 3 yellow cards ! THATS ON TROSSARD not the ref..the way he went through the back of the city player was 100%. A yellow so why are gooners crying so much ..
Can't believe they didn't pick anyone from the Olympics
Micah is so right on this
I'm not a fan of some of the laws refs have to follow. Trossard is still a fool, he could have got a yellow for either the challenge or kicking the ball away. I think teams should have a day to brush up on what will get you booked. Arsenal should not be losing another player due to this crap. Totally ruined that game.
The way Gary talks about Micah like he was a bum but i remembered him as an inury prone but decent.
Sorry, I can't agree with Micah. The issue with that game is twofold, the PGMOL & Michael Oliver. PGMOL are toothless against themselves & that's just rediculous. Oliver on the other hand shouldn't be a ref anymore. He's corrupt. City have him in their back pocket. Case in point the kick in the chest MacAllister received against City last season. The lack of cards for obvious fouls against City when Oliver officiates. It's too obvious. The four refs that were each paid £20,000 by the owner of City to officiate in Abu Dabi were also the four officials to officiate in a final which involved City last season, I think, only for City to win. Oliver as a ref is corrupt.
Meeks needs to lay off the vino if he thinks a half volley is chest high 😂😂
Alans acl couldnt have been that bad. When I did mine it felt like I had been shot in the leg. Heard a huge pop and instantly couldnt walk or bear any weight on my leg. Couldnt play football for about 3 years.
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A team like Man City can afford to rotate their players, surely? A player needs to have so e rest from matches, this is why any team's bench should be more important instead of focusing purely on a starting 11 that'll play 200 of the team's 200 games.
Micah. Who’s The Chicago Bills? 😂
Tiger Woods, Marvin Hagler and MJ.
City didn't hv kdb for 19games injured game 1 won league against probably the hardest challenge in pool that season until us last n this n next decade COYG
Sir Garfield Sobers-- most of all great captain
When a dutch journalist asked van Dijk last year, are you ready have a pay cut of 20% when the schedule is 20 percent less games. Van Dijk said “No”.
Now the clubs have a lot of players, sonthey can rotate and make a lot of changes during a game.
The footballers doesn't want 20 % less games ,they just don't want additional games ,such as (minimum 2 in CL 4 for the teams below 8th place) bigger club world cup with 32 teams which is ridiculous, expanding World cup ,Euros etc .. thats the main issue and they are right
That was not Virgil's full answer. The subsequent question was: if it was for the good of your health? He said 'yes' he would give up 10% salary.
He’s an important player but one man doesn’t make a team. Peps sides, wherever he’s coached have always been able to adapt to the loss of a key player and still succeed on the pitch. I think City would suffer more with the loss of Haaland, he’s become their primary source of goals and they have no like for like replacement. With losing Alvarez, their B Plan, so to speak has had to be reimagined, if Haaland got injured it would take about 6 games for the team to adapt to proficient level. I think all the loss of Rodri has done, is make this a more open title, where before it was City and Arsenal it now opens it up to include Liverpool and one otherside, that one depending on which side has that unexpected kind of season.
one man city gonna be struggling now, kid.
@@whodiss4473 kid you can stay, Im 70 😂
Micah's right about volleys btw
Title reply: It depends on how long time Odegaard's rehab takes. He's (almost) as important for Arsenal as Rodri is for City. BTW: Fewer games a year! The public wants to watch teams in top form, not half-wornout "zombies" limping about on the pitch. TV firms will find out, eventually.
If they play more games just train lightly. They play on carpets these days and have 5 subs so stop moaning.
No arsenal arent favourites. They have injuries themselves, theyre also reknowned bottle jobs. what have they shown to convince anyone over the last 2 years they are actual challengers? THeyll just bottle it as always, Villa lookm more likely to challenge or win it.
Arsenal are favourites because the FA will dock Man City up to 20 points.
Micah talking shit. The rules are the rules regardless of which teams are playing or the potential magnitude. Trossard should have known better given what happened to Rice. It’s his fault not the refs
2 things
1. Injuries happen in any sport regardless of games played, had a guy on my team do his acl during his 5th game hardly playing to much.... its part and parcel of sport...
2. This yellow card thing and blaming the ref/rules is nonsense.... firstly it's a second yellow he didn't get sent off because of it he git sent of because he was on a yellow and got another.... next you bang on about a ref making a decision, where's the responsibility of the player going im on a yellow card so I need to not do anything stupid..... you need to call out the player for his stupidity...... arguably the actual foul should have been a yellow anyhow.....
Will you talk about the fact that the owners of Man City have been paying Michael Oliver and some other English refs 20k to go over to the UAE League, typical defending trossard getting sent off but nothing about haalands attitude chucking a ball at gabriel then body slamming partey oh wait I forgot haaland can do no wrong
He got his own leg jarred in the turf.. nothing to do at all with amount of game time 😂
Players do play too much. And I’ll have none of this “teams should rotate” bullshit.
As a fan, everyone wants to see their favourite players play. When we rotate we get;
1) why didn’t you play your best 11
And
2) oh he dropped this player - and rumours pop up (case in point Rashford rotated this past game week and Alan Shearer and Redknapp were saying something must have happened)
Are we at the point where players/ clubs will have to boycott tournaments to make a stand on the number of games? Or would that never happen today? Im thinking about Fergie taking United out of the FA cup 🤷♀️
Shearer would have not made the Man utd bench of the Ferguson years 😂
Didn't Fergie try desperately to sign Shearer before he moved to Newcastle. He wouldn't have made the bench cause he would've started every game.
Le deseo una pronta recuperación a Rodri porque sinceramente debió de haber ganado el Balón de Oro el año pasado e injustamente no lo recibió. Y en cuanto a la cantidad de partidos que se juegan en la actualidad, es indudable que los responsables son los organizadores de cada torneo y competencia (por ejemplo la FIFA, la UEFA, la Conmebol, etc.) dado que no les interesa que los jugadores se lesionen con tal de ganar mucho dinero; de ahí que, cada vez sea frecuente que inventen un nuevo campeonato o aumente el número de participantes en aquellos que ya existen. Saludos al gran Gary Lineker 🏴 🔟 🤩, a quien mis padres recuerdan por su participación en el mundial de México 1986 (yo apenas nací ese año 👶🏼), al siempre divertido y no menos interesante Micah 💪, así como al goleador Alan Shearer ⚫️⚪️9️⃣
The trossand challenge on Bernando was nowhere near a yellow, so irrelevant in the debate
Honestly. Seen people say he put his hands on Bernardo’s neck? I saw Trossard jump up for the ball with his arms pressed against himself as best he could. Def not card worthy.
not sure Gary was "pipped" to the Italia 90 golden boot...!!
Kicked the ball away = yellow card
Why we protecting these refs, pgmol is shocking
A well executed half-volley is just as satisfying to watch as a volley. I didn’t realise there was any argument over the distinction! A half volley is a spontaneous shot caught on the cusp of a ball bouncing back up, how can that be disputed?