NVIDIA Allegedly Screwing Everyone - WAN Show Mar. 16 2018

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  • @lillslim1
    @lillslim1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1016

    Timestamps
    4:40 Sony Ditches Headphone Jack
    12:54 GeForce Partner Program
    43:59 Sponsor: Spektrum Glasses
    45:47 Spnosor: Freshbooks
    46:40 Linus Realizes That Not Much Was Accomplished
    48:08 Floatplane
    50:15 Security Flaws in Ryzen
    55:25 Famous People Play Video Games
    55:31 EA is Turning Battlefront 2 Into a Real Game
    56:30 Fast Rando Topics
    57:25 Outro

    • @tatertotjoe5109
      @tatertotjoe5109 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nolan Wagoner I was looking for this

    • @BrunoHenrique-bg8kj
      @BrunoHenrique-bg8kj 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      up my bro

    • @Erde04
      @Erde04 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nolan Wagoner thank you

    • @-eMpTy-
      @-eMpTy- 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      good shit, get this to #1 pls

    • @elhugo13
      @elhugo13 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

  • @Eunostos
    @Eunostos 6 ปีที่แล้ว +420

    I am shocked, SHOCKED, to discover that a near monopoly provider will leverage that position to the detriment of everyone in their orbit.

    • @robertp457
      @robertp457 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ben Richards detriment? How?

    • @piotrkrolikowski9335
      @piotrkrolikowski9335 6 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      increased prices on GPU's,(the 1060, 1070 etc were more expensive than the previous gen of cards), exclusive technology that raises prices of monitors by upwards of 300 dollars, etc etc. No competition is always a bad thing.

    • @korishan
      @korishan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Maybe this will hurt NVidia in the end and show them they can't do this kind of move without repercussions themselves

    • @seanli7493
      @seanli7493 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Korishan Maybe... but just look at other monopolies, such as De Beers diamonds and Luxottica, they have done these kinds of things with almost no repercussions...

    • @vessovit7479
      @vessovit7479 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and that's is why their stock is skyrocking for YEARS. AMD has no chance, we'll not see any competition till NVDA is in every single AI sectror of the future. We're screwed and we can only hope their products keep being technically proficient.

  • @JeremyTaylorNZ
    @JeremyTaylorNZ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    nVidia is talking up a lot of "transparency" for a company that hasn't publicly released the terms of their partner program...

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      what makes it even look more like hollow marketing propaganda phrases and blatan lies.
      Luke refering to Umbridge seems like a really accurate comparison

    • @insioni
      @insioni 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      there was a comment on the hardware unboxed video; "Nvidia GPP so transparent, noone can see it" :p

    • @lordraptor11
      @lordraptor11 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      NVidia transparency appears to be a lot like barack hussein odumbos transparency administration LOL

    • @2BTO
      @2BTO 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +lordraptor11 You're just not funny mate

    • @lordraptor11
      @lordraptor11 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      wasn't meant to be funny it was a fact odumbos administration was only transparent to people with brains who could see what was right in front of them. personally I'm more interested in how these youtubers can sleep at night making vids of how gpus are so hard to get yet they have a shelf on the wall behind them full of gpus that are still in boxes not being used when they could be given to us gamers who are currently fucked with failing GPU's and unable to get one without buying from an unauthorized seller and having to give up first born and an arm and a leg.

  • @alb9022
    @alb9022 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    nVidia topic starts at around 14:50. Keeps going past 25:30.

  • @umeng2002
    @umeng2002 6 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    The GeForce Partner Program is an offer you can't refuse.

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      quite literally, lol

    • @qwe-gu5pq
      @qwe-gu5pq 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol good one

    • @ezzy525
      @ezzy525 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ehhh uhh, that's a real nice brand ya got there...be a shame if somethin happened to it.

  • @KarnageGaming
    @KarnageGaming 6 ปีที่แล้ว +226

    I legit refuse to buy a phone without a headphone jack. Thank god asia still has some form of sense and still includes it. Why a person would choose a headphone set that uses a frequency that cant ever hold tge quality of a wired headset ill never know.

    • @ZippySide
      @ZippySide 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Lord Karnage BB Japan is asia tho

    • @DJMavis
      @DJMavis 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well actual keyboards are superior to touch ones, look what happened to them.

    • @Fritz_Salad
      @Fritz_Salad 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      mavis cruet
      *Keypads, not keyboards.
      Keypads are shit, that's why virtual touch keyboards replaced them. An actual keyboard is better than both in terms of typing ease, especially mech keyboards.

    • @DJMavis
      @DJMavis 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I am not entirely sure how you classifying things, but for about 7 years I had a phone with a keyboard, then after the HTC Desire Z it was very difficult to get one, except a Blackberry. And then it was all touch screens. I have watched managers try and take minutes on an iPad and look like utter dicks doing it. But if you're saying I had a keypad, then you're wrong about them being shit.

    • @BenjerminGaye
      @BenjerminGaye 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      WhiteRice for a phone? sure. but a pc/tablet? nope.

  • @KatzenwagenTV
    @KatzenwagenTV 6 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    "He's (Berkel) an action man... Probably more action-ey in his pants" - Luke 2018

    • @SteelSkin667
      @SteelSkin667 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The instant regret about saying that was magnificent.

  • @sledforlife2327
    @sledforlife2327 6 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Nvidia is basically a drug cartel kingpin. Allegedly. I reeeeaaaally hope AMD get their ducks in a row and start competing on the enthusiast level. Nvidia is going full Sith Lord.

    • @IRQ1Conflict
      @IRQ1Conflict 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You misspelled Shit. ;}

    • @TheSerbianEmperor
      @TheSerbianEmperor 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      StevenHerbs
      I doubt we'll see any exceptional GPU's from AMD any time soon, they simply just don't have money for it.

    • @korishan
      @korishan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @TheEmperorSRB: Hey, they surprised us when they were the underdog and became a CPU competitor against Intel in the 90's. At that time, they "had no money". Look at them now. Don't be surprised if AMD has known about this "issue" for some time and will release new line of GPU's that will blow NVidia back a couple decades. AMD can be full of surprises when the times are right. This may be a right time for AMD to shine brighter and play harder ;)

    • @TheSerbianEmperor
      @TheSerbianEmperor 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd love to be that optimistic but by how they're acting, it doesn't seem likely any time soon.
      Most of their development budged for the last couple of years went to creating Ryzen and the Infinity Fabric.
      It's clear that they're trying to compete but they're still the underdog between two behemoths, so they can only fight one side at a time, and they decided it's going to be Intel for now. Hopefully, if Ryzen is not a one shot ( and it doesn't seem so ), they'll be able to fix themselves in place once again and spend some money on GPU's as well.
      But Nvidia is going to be pretty much free for the time being.

    • @TheTopMostDog
      @TheTopMostDog 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      StevenHerbs hear hear. Amd have more money to make elsewhere tho. Government contracts, consoles, Intel contracts. Hopeful after all this they can afford more rnd

  • @james2042
    @james2042 6 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    EVGA was a horrible example, as they only make nvidia gpu's anyways. They have no reason not to sign up. Asus is a MUCH better example

    • @pokeng
      @pokeng 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      James Mastroianni my thoughts exactly. Like MSI and Gigabyte

    • @TheTopMostDog
      @TheTopMostDog 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Meh. I'm gonna buy xfx next purchase.

    • @SweMisterB
      @SweMisterB 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      EVGA seems like the perfect example... Ever wondered WHY they only run nVidia GPU's? The GPP is hardly a new thing, it's just a new wrapper for an old thing.

    • @willreaver2295
      @willreaver2295 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      jaystwocents covers this topic better, uses ASUS and MSI GPU packaging as a better visual description of what it could mean as well as bringing that intel had done the exact same thing and got fined an enormous amount for it. th-cam.com/video/HkqpRrzUxQI/w-d-xo.html

    • @james2042
      @james2042 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HorRodX xfx only makes amd cards, they made nvidia cards at one point, but due to disagreements they won't work with eachother

  • @BrandonCorby-wr5nd
    @BrandonCorby-wr5nd 6 ปีที่แล้ว +332

    Nice GPUs you got there be a shame if you stop getting deliveries. But tell you what the boss say you join our little program and you be all good. Sound a little mob-y?

    • @MegaTechpc
      @MegaTechpc 6 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      ...and those AMD cards you're selling... those need to disappear if you want to continue our "partnership". -Nvidia

    • @naibaf710
      @naibaf710 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Or well, you can continue selling AMD cards, but not with the labels "Strix", "Aorus", "Gaming" on it. And probably also no colorful boxes for the shells. Put AMD in gray OEM boxes, or you won't get any nVidia chips. Mwhahaha - evil corp nVidia with leather jacket supervillan CEO.

    • @naibaf710
      @naibaf710 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Soon XFX and Sapphire will be the only AMD brands for GPUs left.
      Not that it would matter at the moment, there's not enough Stock of any GPUs at AMD and nVidia at the moment anyways. It gets sold no matter what.

    • @BottomOfTheDumpsterFire
      @BottomOfTheDumpsterFire 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Fabian Tschopp No live for HIS AMd GPUs?

    • @naibaf710
      @naibaf710 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Holy shit I forgot about HIS. My first dedicated GPU was a HIS Radeon X800GT PCI-E. Beautiful thing back in the days.
      The thing is, in my country HIS GPUs are sold nowhere any longer. I don't know why. I thought they went bankrupt but apparently they still do make GPUs.
      I remember also the days back when nVidias 6800GT were top-notch and XFX seemed to be? or was? nVidia exclusive.

  • @jormakovanen667
    @jormakovanen667 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    It's funny how the main tech news stories these days are rooted in corporate greed: Intel, nvidia, EA...

    • @amateruss
      @amateruss 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The sheeps are starting to become self-aware.

  • @TacticalFluke09
    @TacticalFluke09 6 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    that whole geforce section made me feel dirty

    • @kaptu100
      @kaptu100 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's pretty telling how much Linus and Luke were contemplating LTT's mortality during the whole spiel. At the risk of anthropomorphising nvidia as a company, they do seem quite psychopathic..

  • @Thiccolo
    @Thiccolo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    If all board partners band together and refuse to join the gpp, Nvidia would have to change the terms without any legal intervention

    • @aaalbert
      @aaalbert 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      TheMegaInferno And all of them would likely lose millions or even billions

    • @Spoderskrillex
      @Spoderskrillex 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      j.tv How? If everything stays as it was, why should anyone loose more or less money (except maybe Nvidia because they damaged their reputation even further)

    • @aaalbert
      @aaalbert 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Spoderskrillex Nvidia would probably not sell cards to them for some time because Nvidia would think someone would still join them. In that time all the other brands lose money because they don't have any cards to sell.

    • @Spoderskrillex
      @Spoderskrillex 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      j.tv I don't think this is how it works. Nvidia wouldn't stop giving them GPUs, even if nobody signs up, because they don't want to lose money themselves. Anyways, according to Nvidia, there are already lots of companies that assigned to the GPP, so these speculations are pretty useless.

    • @robertp457
      @robertp457 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spoderskrillex it’s all speculation so you shouldn’t be forming an opinion based on it.

  • @ae86manny
    @ae86manny 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I would buy a Sony phone but not now after the removal of headphone jack

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were already shitty with headphone jack.
      I mean the design is impractical af and outdated with this giant bezels top & bottom, their smartphone image sensors dominate the market, yet sony's smartphone cameras are among the worst, the features are outdated, the product naming scheme is a total mess, completely intransparent & confusing, etc...
      I could go on for days, why Sony is a terrible smartphone manufactere atm

    • @MetroidChild
      @MetroidChild 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LRM12o8 How about segmenting features to make a lot of lines and refusing to create an all out flagship, I adored the Z1 compact, my mom owns the Z5 compact, I would totally consider the ZX2 if they hadn't removed the aux port, it's seriously a deal breaker for me because there are no good dongle/wireless solutions that can replace a good old jack for all the wired headphones and speakers I have around the house

  • @CK9C
    @CK9C 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I almost died at 47:53 - So did Linus x'D

  • @CJonestheSteam72
    @CJonestheSteam72 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Welcome from 2022 where EVGA fully agrees with this message

  • @giorx5
    @giorx5 6 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Just trying to establish monopoly in any market segment is evil for customers and illegal. And this program is clearly an indirect effort to do exactly this. A cunning way though, not leaving many traces behind for now...

    • @HawkFest
      @HawkFest 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Monopoly stance = communism

  • @balitheking1
    @balitheking1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Linus Alleged Tips

  • @petrus4
    @petrus4 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    @45.50 - If it means anything, one of the main things I've always appreciated about you is your level of integrity, Linus; and this video is another demonstration of that. It's also why I've watched TotalBiscuit as well. A lot of people think he is self-righteous, but he puts the consumer first; and I think that is exactly what businesspeople need to do.

  • @LipeManzoli
    @LipeManzoli 6 ปีที่แล้ว +307

    But what about Tunnelbear tho?

    • @pixelatorlolz
      @pixelatorlolz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      they got bought by mcaffe

    • @Zandarlo
      @Zandarlo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      mike wazowski succ They have good coffee

    • @Lancaster604
      @Lancaster604 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      McAfee got bought by Intel which then got separated as a subsidiary but is still directly owned by Intel.

    • @billyhatcher643
      @billyhatcher643 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      they talked about it last week

    • @bananya6020
      @bananya6020 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can you zoom out slightly in the profile pic pls

  • @teh_jibbler
    @teh_jibbler 6 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    "It requires root access to exploit." Lolwut? So... it's not an exploit. At all. Wtf, get that shit outta my face.

    • @santa_ryan
      @santa_ryan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Privilege escalation is only one aspect of exploits. Persistence is an entirely different matter. Please don't be so foolish as to think requiring root means it's not an exploit. You'd get laughed out of any real security discussion.
      *If* the exploits are real, someone could reprogram critical security silicon in the CPU and embed malicious code. It'd be a permanent hardware rootkit on chip. It may not even be fixable at that point. That's not supposed to be possible, even when running in ring 0 (Bare metal).
      Correction: Although the vulnerabilities are confirmed by AMD, they say the claims were highly exaggerated and nothing will really come of these vulnerabilities, and that they will be patching via software shortly. My point about knowing what it means to exploit still stands though.

    • @jdrok5026
      @jdrok5026 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ryan Claus they all require signed drivers access to the hardware there is literally no real exploit they showed that isn't blown way out of proportion even by other security firms they are going well it may have basis in reality but it's over blown and requires way to much physical access to be this blown up

    • @WhatsCS
      @WhatsCS 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      exactly! yes there are "holes" in Zen but if you are requiring Administrative access along with even having to modify the BIOS you have bigger problems... like the fact that someone gained Administrative access and modified your BIOS.

  • @NeoFryBoy
    @NeoFryBoy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Allegedly Tech Tips

  • @r1master
    @r1master 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    MY current phone is sony, Water proof and headphone jack, hell yeah.

    • @RandomTheories
      @RandomTheories 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dedicated camera button is the main selling point for me!

    • @DecibelAlex
      @DecibelAlex 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its water resistant, not water proof. Better not test it though. The warranty does not cover water damage

    • @Crazymindplow
      @Crazymindplow 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      currently have a galaxy s8
      also waterproof and headphone Jack
      but it has less bezel than Sony, that's something sony still does really well :/

  • @Najvalsa
    @Najvalsa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If Nvidia gets away with this, who knows what they'll ask for next. In other words, give 'em an inch, and they'll take a mile.
    Even if everything's all fine and dandy for us consumers now, like we just get a Strix N series of cards, an MSI Gaming N series, etc, and even if the extra marketing costs don't get reflected in the price tags of these cards, what about in the future when they start taking AiB partners or OEMs altogether (assuming that's not already happening).
    It's anti-competitive, it's asking for prejudice, and so as a consumer it's not good for me at all.

    • @defeqel6537
      @defeqel6537 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They will get away with it. Not enough people know or care, and their mindshare is so high they are the default option, even when better options are available, and that mindshare will just keep rising (especially with miners preferring AMD). While I don't expect AMD to vanish completely from the discrete market, their presence will keep dwindling and Radeon will be relegated to consoles, APUs, mobile and cloud. Doesn't even matter whether AMD makes a killer product or finds something worth suing nVidia over.

  • @milesfinch
    @milesfinch 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This adds a highlight to my week. An hour, or so, of banter and chat that lifts the weight from the week endured.

  • @MazeFrame
    @MazeFrame 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Anandtech phone interview with CTS labs is an interesting read. I would highly recommend anyone reads it.

  • @ChristianStout
    @ChristianStout 6 ปีที่แล้ว +300

    I wish I could care about Sony phones, but it's so hard to find one in the US.

    • @PierceMD
      @PierceMD 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      But the NA ones miss the fingerprint sensor

    • @user-neo71665
      @user-neo71665 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Don't think I've even seen a sony cell since 2005

    •  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For me the camera kills them.

    • @hullu4
      @hullu4 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @Péter Friedrich The camera is literally the same as in several other brands, because others buy the cameras from sony...

    •  6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      aquaraider11 I know, yet somehow all other flagships take better photos.

  • @limcheehean
    @limcheehean 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The first phone with a notch was actually the LG V10.

    • @MarcoZ1ITA1
      @MarcoZ1ITA1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lim Chee Hean that was actually a second display. Main one is LCD, secondary is OLED so it can stay always on.

    • @TLRPhotographe
      @TLRPhotographe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Essential phone too before the IPhone

    • @limcheehean
      @limcheehean 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MarcoZ No it's actually one LCD panel with two backlights. That's why there were backlight bleed issues on the top. They just cut off the top left corner of the display for the two cameras.

  • @LightSoySauce
    @LightSoySauce 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    i really like the way you dont use limiting or compression on the sound so it ranges from inaudible to really loud, classy...

  • @GewelReal
    @GewelReal 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sony is quite big in Europe (was as big as Samsung like 2-3 years back in Poland)

    • @Progan666
      @Progan666 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chinese Xiaomi and huawei are the most popular phone brands at the moment.

  • @TrueThanny
    @TrueThanny 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    33:25 If you're talking about roughly 7 years ago when HD prices soared, that had nothing to do with lack of competition. That was about major flooding in SE Asia, where almost all HD's were manufactured. Plants were shut down, cutting supplies seriously short.

  • @Lujantony
    @Lujantony 6 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Take me drunk I’m home guys

    • @user-jm7uf3ws3n
      @user-jm7uf3ws3n 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I drank then i woke up im fine

  • @DaveRanucci
    @DaveRanucci 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    FWIW, I am a North American that's bought Sony Xperia phones exclusively for the last 5 years or so. I like their minimal UI, the pop-up apps are handy, camera apps can be pretty cool, they're waterproof, have good battery life, and a physical 2 stage shutter button is nice for focusing. That said, I DEFINITELY want a traditional headphone jack and won't buy a phone that doesn't have it. I also think crazy high resolutions on a phone is pretty unnecessary unless you want to do VR with your phone.

  • @somethingsinlife5600
    @somethingsinlife5600 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Allegedly? Since when is it allegedly?

    • @rafamirek2946
      @rafamirek2946 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Some Things In Life Since Nvidia pays Linus

    • @somethingsinlife5600
      @somethingsinlife5600 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rafał Mirek Naah...Linus still has a dick and balls.

  • @MuttleyGames
    @MuttleyGames 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually bought a 2017 Sony XA1 since it was cheap on black friday and you couldn't get anything better in that price range.Im pretty happy most of the time.

  • @leonkernan
    @leonkernan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    17:02 No viruses, good job Linus.

  • @Saismee
    @Saismee 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    00:04:36 - Sony removed headphone jack from Xperia XZ2 and XZ2 Compact
    00:12:50 - GeForce Partner Program
    00:43:52 - Sponsor: Spektrum Glasses
    00:45:45 - Sponsor: Freshbooks
    00:48:05 - Floatplane
    00:50:10 - Security flaw discovered in Zen processors
    00:55:27 - EA turning Star Wars Battlefront II into a real game
    00:56:08 - Free games from Twitch Prime
    00:57:10 - Broadcom not buying Qualcomm

  • @freerideshuttle
    @freerideshuttle 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    We don't want phones without headphone jack. We need that f%$£g conectivity. I guess I talk in the name of 80% of people on this entire planet.

    • @Progan666
      @Progan666 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Headphone jack is nice to have for when I want to listen to music but if I had the money to invest in a phone that cost around $1000 I wouldn't have much trouble with investing some money into buying a cheap bluetooth set. I am alright with using an adapter for my 598's at home.

    • @freerideshuttle
      @freerideshuttle 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ok for you and I'm glad for you, but I instead hate compsuming battery life on a headset with bluetooth, while I'm not right shure that bluetooth won't give some radiations to our cells. we even found a bit late that SAR radiations cause brain damage or even tumors, so for me bluetooth headphones is a huge NO! instead if I pay 1000 bucks I want that f***in jack connector and with that money they should do even better than ip68

    • @freerideshuttle
      @freerideshuttle 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh, that's one thing I'm talking about. plus how less costs a decent jack headset. there's no way to gap the difference

    • @dunxy
      @dunxy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup, headphone jack is a must, adapter is not a solution, i like to charge my phone while playing music on my hi-fi at home and what about on the rd? As if i want to carry adapter around all the time.Many devices use headphone jack, one in particular i use is an anemometer for example.

    • @cockatoo010
      @cockatoo010 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can swear here, it's okay

  • @anthonymerchant2597
    @anthonymerchant2597 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok I just had to mention your tags for this video are great! I have watched a lot of Linus Tech vids and this was good on so many levels because you showed that you all are a business but you really care about giving people good tech information. I have even more respect for you after seeing this video.

  • @mukiex4413
    @mukiex4413 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can't say this enough: I hope Luke is here to stay on WAN show. Though I'll never complain whenever Laser James comes on.

    • @skuzzyj
      @skuzzyj 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pete Martinez
      Luke + Laser James is good, too

    • @operator8014
      @operator8014 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      LUKE AND LASERJAMES 2018!

  • @PerpetuallyInTransit
    @PerpetuallyInTransit 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "We're so bad we're early!"
    Y'all are the best

  • @niklausweisskopf3062
    @niklausweisskopf3062 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    thx for adressing this gpp stuff, i sence a very carefully crafted language here, and thats the problem, in this day and age one does not know how far one can go, without having to pay a price, whatever that may be. sounds like some pretty dark stuff.

  • @CrimsonKobaNakirigumi
    @CrimsonKobaNakirigumi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sony: "We removed the headphone jack to get our beautiful and seamless design"
    phone looks like shit*

  • @pavankotak3975
    @pavankotak3975 6 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    You can poll on a TH-cam Post.

    • @pavankotak3975
      @pavankotak3975 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Captinprocat Yep

    • @hypno159753
      @hypno159753 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Captinprocat sarcasm doesn't work over text

    • @pavankotak3975
      @pavankotak3975 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Captinprocat perhaps you need a class on sarcasm

    • @Purraxxus
      @Purraxxus 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      that was sarcasm? or was it? i don't know it doesn't work over text

    • @pavankotak3975
      @pavankotak3975 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Captinprocat perhaps you should tell your cat to teach you sarcasm

  • @MidKnight_Reign
    @MidKnight_Reign 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've had that "server room" stock picture as part of my friggin desktop background slideshow for YEARS.

  • @Mic_Glow
    @Mic_Glow 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    lol Sony. Those reasons for removing the audio jack look like a bad joke.

    • @DeathBringer769
      @DeathBringer769 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Both their "reasons" basically boiled down to essentially "we copied Apple, so it's OK because we copied Apple."

  • @PixelWorldsGame
    @PixelWorldsGame 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should add the poll to this youtube video as a card :) Would be very interesting

  • @richardlynch329
    @richardlynch329 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sony's problem is they release really really good products and they do not invest in advertising...

    • @Ownage4lif31
      @Ownage4lif31 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Richard Lynch it's cause they spend all of it in the ps4 and ps4 exclusives (to get pple to buy a ps4). They probs had too much money and phones are just for fun

  • @nnkk7742
    @nnkk7742 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best wan show in a while. It's nice when you actually want to discuss the topics.

  • @meterora9332
    @meterora9332 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Everybody screaming for timestamps

  • @Jognt
    @Jognt 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I honestly did not expect you to be critical of the nCrappya Partner Program. Good on you.

  • @Failsy1
    @Failsy1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nvida GPP: 12:44

    • @Esgrth
      @Esgrth 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. :)

  • @sphiwemashaba2661
    @sphiwemashaba2661 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was 3 am when you released this. I'm in South Africa. Love your channel guys, but I loved my sleep more. XD!

  • @Ceekur
    @Ceekur 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    > Real game
    > Microtransactions
    Pick one. (Free-to-play exempt)

    • @ax2bxc
      @ax2bxc 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Real game.

  • @anumeon
    @anumeon 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    When Linus starts saying how he has not heard something. You can just imagine John sitting upstairs facepalming over and over again.. :D

  • @williamforbes6919
    @williamforbes6919 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Well, I guess I'm not going to consider buying a Sony Xperia now.

  • @xiang2518
    @xiang2518 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always appreciate Linus for the true result or feedback on product.

  • @mLiinkzin
    @mLiinkzin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    this is what happen when nvidia joins with Nintendo.

  • @GiffysChannel
    @GiffysChannel 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Transparency man, we need more of it and anyone who beats around the bush is hiding something.

  • @Rgmekanic
    @Rgmekanic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Remember 2 years ago Kyle at HardOCP pissed off AMD when he broke the story about Radeon graphics going into Intel CPUs, no one wanted to believe that one.
    And you glossed over the impact of Kaby Lake-G laptops, as well as OEMs

  • @Wonky4925
    @Wonky4925 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had to turn of this weeks episode at 17mins. Luke's laughatron hit a good 9/10 this week.

  • @balitheking1
    @balitheking1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Allegedly the WAN show is pre recorded

    • @misterspeedforce3525
      @misterspeedforce3525 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Neo Allegedly, alleging something was a meme this WAN show.

    • @balitheking1
      @balitheking1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Alleged tech tips

  • @tibo24260
    @tibo24260 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    16:15 "actually DIFFERENT CARDS YEAH ! yeah Yeah." Awww so cute

  • @wedgoku
    @wedgoku 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    #RIPLTT

  • @Monarch15w
    @Monarch15w 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like that Luke is back for WAN show. They are usually much better with him as a host. Although I do like when John is on also. I love watching every week. Thanks for the updates guys.

  • @TheGarageGaming
    @TheGarageGaming 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Like 3dfx labs 🤔 years ago and because nvidia brought out there assets everyone forgets they sued a year before and crashed there market share in the first place

    • @broken1965
      @broken1965 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      TheGarage Gaming Voodoo an TNT those were the days

    • @TheGarageGaming
      @TheGarageGaming 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jon A yeah man i remember throwing my first dual cards and power adopter away after people finding them hard to get know days 😭

    • @TheGarageGaming
      @TheGarageGaming 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jon A while playing unreal tornment quake 3 arena and deus ex at 1024 with no lag while my friend's via graphic was too slow to run

  • @onedude9427
    @onedude9427 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Luke trying to suppress his yawns is me in every damn meeting at 05:00 am x)

  • @gemferg
    @gemferg 6 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    fuccboi Nvidia

  • @AlanWise
    @AlanWise 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a great show guys. Seemed like you were in a good mood despite the tough to talk about topics. Keep up the enthusiasm and positivity! Linus and Luke FTW

  • @rangerfurby
    @rangerfurby 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    they're starting to sound like EA

    • @defeqel6537
      @defeqel6537 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Heh, starting to...

    • @tanmang42
      @tanmang42 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      EA is a different field of asshole-antics, these guys are forcing companies at gunpoint while EA is trying to squeeze money out of vulnerable children playing games through microtransactions.

    • @TheSerbianEmperor
      @TheSerbianEmperor 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ranger Furby
      Nvidia is more like a mob boss scaring everyone into submission, while EA is that guy with a "free candy" van who robs you of everything you have as soon as you get near.

  • @mitsukasouji
    @mitsukasouji 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    steps in the storage section of computing Optane>SSD>Hard Drive

  • @ScriptyVijay
    @ScriptyVijay 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Show time 😍😍✅

  • @tedbear631
    @tedbear631 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    24:00 I've GOT ONE!!!! good ol 2008 build and it still runs today : >

  • @brofights3138
    @brofights3138 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    WAN in under an hour?

  • @jacobcandrive
    @jacobcandrive 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Nvidia tin in the background is really fitting for this video.

  • @Trapper64
    @Trapper64 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sigh...Sony

  • @Ephergie
    @Ephergie 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    00:48:15 - Luke looses it... I spray coffee on my desk! Classic LTT

  • @cang559
    @cang559 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    hey linus,, take a vacation?

  • @alwaysglackin565
    @alwaysglackin565 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's crazy how much WAN show makes me laugh

  • @BangSonor
    @BangSonor 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    NCIXcom purchase doc?

    • @nickk7645
      @nickk7645 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I noticed that too, and a IP Holdings for LMG and NCIX

    • @datanchovies2507
      @datanchovies2507 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I seen it too

    • @Ravenousjoe
      @Ravenousjoe 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think they are just trolling us. They know there is a big cry from their viewers to purchase nvix in a way.

  • @billreese7095
    @billreese7095 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Sony Xperia Z5 Compact is rock solid. Making things lighter and thinner can compromise the build quality.

  • @scotthanlon5742
    @scotthanlon5742 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The CTS background thing Gamers Nexus did it in an episode yesterday or the day before. He found all of it etc and showed it all to be a joke! It's all a scam by stock traders to, as you said short the market. If this is proven AMD are going to go to town on them! Lol!!!

    • @toymachine4253
      @toymachine4253 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Scott Hanlon Yeah, that whole Viceroy Research/CTS Labs operation has been such a radical display of ineptitude that I'm starting to believe AMD might be behind the curtain, running a reverse psycology publicity stunt.

    • @scotthanlon5742
      @scotthanlon5742 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's interesting and kind of silly at the same time yeah? And you really think AMD is behind it? Maybe. We'll just have to wait and see I guess, but it's seriously doubtful at this stage. "Israel" really? About as much credability as %#^% on a stick! lol

    • @demikus
      @demikus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what if it's Nvidia behind it trying to shore up their near monopoly by dragging the only real competition through the mud. Seems about as likely as AMD being behind something that could be this bad...

    • @toymachine4253
      @toymachine4253 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, I don't really believe this goes beyond Viceroy. But their minions at CTS "Labs" released such an amatuerish "white paper", and bungled the announcement with an unrealistic and unjustified schedule and Viceroy was so eager to strike while the iron was hot that they didn't worry about it looked to release a major article at the same time as the scientific announcement that it was supposibly based upon. They claimed to have received an "anonamous e-mail"- from someone on a research team with less than ten people on it. It just all looks like a very poorly executed plot by Viceroy to attack AMD. For all I know, these could be real vulnerabilities that need to be fixed, but the way Viceroy/CTS went about annoncing them was not legitimate at all.

    • @scotthanlon5742
      @scotthanlon5742 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly! Totally agree!

  • @Smash_ter
    @Smash_ter 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd say make Wan show longer if needed

  • @MultiGreef
    @MultiGreef 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    86 green zealots don't like this stream

  • @juicedup14
    @juicedup14 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Luke's luagh cures cancer

  • @AndrewWires
    @AndrewWires 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What's that about geforce experience Luke talks about at 19:40? Can someone point me to the video they talk about that? Thanks!

    • @batt3ryac1d
      @batt3ryac1d 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Andrew Wires they made it so you need to create an account or log in with facebook or google to use it.

    • @AndreiTache
      @AndreiTache 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +batt3ryac1d What’s so bad about that?

    • @batt3ryac1d
      @batt3ryac1d 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Random Person pretty nasty

    • @AndrewWires
      @AndrewWires 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I see. Thought it might have been about all those nvidia processes (part of gforce experience) that are running in the background (nvidia container etc) and eat up cpu usage

  • @HarvardHeinous
    @HarvardHeinous 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent camera positioning today. Leave the camera and chairs exactly like this!

  • @swuf5962
    @swuf5962 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That’s rape

  • @jojj334Q
    @jojj334Q 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Former Sony Xperia user. Had the Xperia S and the M5. The S was great, still solid phone, microphone stopped working after 3 years. The M5 cameras stopped working after 5 months and customer service was SHIT! I just used the phone normally, it was under warranty but they were still charging MYR 600 for fixing it.
    With or without headphone jacks, I'm not getting their phones anymore. Their other products are pretty good though, cameras and audio devices. Oh and PlayStation, their exclusives are pretty solid this gen.

  • @laffbath6740
    @laffbath6740 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    360p squad

  • @NoobsAlwaysCry
    @NoobsAlwaysCry 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    43:55
    Linus: let's talk about something...
    Luke: like floatplane
    Linus:.... Not horrible.

  • @stocklilves4060
    @stocklilves4060 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Sounds hawt.

  • @mikes2381
    @mikes2381 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Asked my buddy to be musicman in the car yesterday for 5.5 hrs of driving.... But he had an iPhone and didn't bring his dongle. 😂 So he got to bear my music for 5 hours while I also drove and navigated in the rental car.

  • @atharvbhat7310
    @atharvbhat7310 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wait .. wtf .. so early ?

    • @PeterNjeim
      @PeterNjeim 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Here in Canada, we have something called Daylight Savings Time, where we turn the clock forward by 1 hour. It's also in the US.

    • @leonkernan
      @leonkernan 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which is extra confusing in Australia when our DST is about to go the other way! The show jumps all over the place.

    • @atharvbhat7310
      @atharvbhat7310 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you keep track of time ? .. do you have to change the time on your clocks everytime ?

    • @0xredsec
      @0xredsec 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup change clocks. Sept Arizona

    • @PeterNjeim
      @PeterNjeim 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We do this because when summer arrives we find that setting the clock forward by 1 hour will give us more daylight, hence the name daylight saving time.
      Almost all electronics connected to the internet switch the time automatically. Windows, macOS, Linux, Android, iOS, cable boxes, all switch time automatically. Analog clocks on the walls, ovens, and microwaves need to be changed manually, it's not that difficult.

  • @StewChicken42
    @StewChicken42 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:00 Damn, that woman's pretty happy about Sony getting the Talk to the Hand treatment :>

  • @unotoli
    @unotoli 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Bashing Sony?! They are only guys who created GOOD Bluetooth codec and deserve to switch wireless headphones! Don't worry, Samsung can play it too - www.androidauthority.com/sony-ldac-codec-790690/

    • @unotoli
      @unotoli 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Plus Compact - is still the only compact premium device with premium CPU and Camera. They did not only waterpoof, - stereo, slow-mo and very handy side-fingerprint reader (they had to ditch it unfortunately) was their thing first!

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sony is a crappy manufacturer.
      Their naming scheme is a mess, they have way too many models with too little difference between them, their design is terribly impractical and outdated, their camera is among the worst in premium smartphones thanks to shitty software, their features are outdated Oh, and good bluetooth is no reason at all to ditch the jack. a waterproof headphone jack costs next to nothing and you need a DAC anyway for the microphones and speakers of the phone. removing that doesn't save any cost.
      And no idea what you mean by premium CPU. they use the same Snapdragon CPUs as any other manufacturer.
      The market wouldn't even notice, if Sony stopped making smartphones at this point

    • @ax2bxc
      @ax2bxc 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sony? That brand is lame now, even some not so well known brands are better.

    • @unotoli
      @unotoli 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brand? Do you need a brand (logo?) or device? It is nice to have more and more competitive products, but it does not make Sony products "bad".

    • @unotoli
      @unotoli 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Crappy manufacturer because of naming scheme???!! Like iPhone8's name make any sense (7s). Little difference among models, in light of Apple again? Outdated or weird design... ahh, you got it (Apple).
      Up until now they had nice design and very practical side-finger-sensor. Sony XZ Premium shares DxMark score with iPhone7 and LG V30 (bad camera phones, huh?)... not to mention Sony pushed and still owns most of sensor maket (heard of mirorrless?).
      Again, removing headphone jack is bad. But in my opinion, Sony is the last to blame - they SOLVED fundamental every-day problem of having GOOD sounds with their codec. If you just crying about your cheapo sound - tape your usb-c dongle and deal with it.
      How many true stereo-phones out there? Sony was consistent about it.
      Premium CPU on compact design.... anyone?!?? Only Sony has made 5 generations of Compacts!
      Calling them "bad" after it all? Yeah, get back to ya 1400usd xBone.

  • @zahidshabir4038
    @zahidshabir4038 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can somewhat understand companies like EVGA or Galax signing up for the GPP because as far as I know they do not make AMD GPU's but companies such as Asus, MSI or Gigabyte who sell a lot of AMD GPU's as well and have a big market there the consumers will miss out on good custom AIB AMD GPU's

  • @peterlourenco5452
    @peterlourenco5452 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    great show been watching since day one

  • @MagnusDerg
    @MagnusDerg 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who needs competition when you can have exclusives

  • @asherbond508
    @asherbond508 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thought I was watching a video from a month ago until Luke mentioned “Ray Tracing” was announced, and then I read the rest of the title.🤣🤦🏻‍♂️