Modern Trends: Secularism | Mohammed Hijab
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I am a Sociology lecturer and this lesson is very, very helpful indeed....almost mirrors what we teach in year 2 A level but in much more detail and depth....only ...with the Islamic perspective. Alhamdolila very insightful jzk brother
Some of my fav arguments made by Br Hijab in this video:
1. Secularism, definitionally, is contingent upon that which it rejects i.e. religion. Therefore, it becomes ever more important to define in a robust manner what religion is and therein lies the problem. Though dictionary definitions may espouse the idea that a presence of central deity or lesser gods are necessary for religious doctrine, brother Hijab quotes sociologists who argue that any TRANSCENDENTAL idea is sufficient. This is certainly the case for godless creeds like Buddhism (and perhaps why we see a western leaning towards it). By this measure classical / philosophical liberalism are all religions. This means secularism is by definition self defeating because religion (if we are to define it according to presence of transcendental ideas) is inescapable. All systems have transcendental ideas and metaphysical assumptions e.g. even a nation with its border, constitution, values of freedom of speech are all transcendental ideas.
2. There is an inherent contradiction between secularism and democracy. Many of the most pressing societal / political discourse are coloured by religious leanings. Take for example the pro life vs pro choice debate in the US. If a democratic society votes to institute religious laws like banning abortion or the cutting for theft, there becomes a conflict. Either secularism is undermined as religious laws are incompatible with a secular state or you override the democratic mandate of the people which amounts to dictatorship
Lol
I was making my own notes, and these were exactly the two points I was writing down in my notes
And now I shall copy paste your notes onto mine as well 😆
Which is why overturning Roe is a violation of separation of religion and state. And why it's only going to lead to congress eventually codifying Reproductive Rights into law.
I wish this lecture was longer. pure gold subhanallah thank you
This is indeed pure gold.
Ustad Hijab doing great work for the ummah. May Allah bless you brother. Quran 5:54 "...do not fear the blame of a critic..."
He is a ustad now
@@drsethranking5894 yep my virtual teacher i learnt soo much from him over the years.
@q2 rthh yasir qadhi made many kufr statements
@q2 rthh exaggeration much.
@q2 rthh he already agreed with Daniel exposing them later on.
I've studied Islam since i was ten years old and finally took my shahada in the past year. I enjoy listening to Mohammed Hijab for a Islamic perspective on various things because being a Muslim especially in America it gets difficult listening to so many unislamic viewpoints in the mainstream media there are many ways to be led astray so thank you Mohammed Hijab.
The benefits we're receiving from Mohammed Hijab getting sick, and then formally beginning lessons on Londoniyyah and other ideologies is immense. Alhamdulillah. Allah sometimes inflicts people with hardships and illness and then benefits himself and other people with it. Allahu Akbar. I can definitely see and feel the results. I mean, you can't argue with the results, can you? This is indeed pure gold.
Hey bro, I have been waiting for this for the last two years and in the Londoniyyah series.
Salam alaykoum,
There is also another saying about the well know expression '' Give to Cesar... etc. '', most people also forget that : Cesar belongs to God... So when you say ''render to God what belongs to him'' you will also render to him Cesar himself, and every thing Cesar got... Lol.
Thanks for the video brothers.
Really enjoy these lectures. Keep them coming and keep them short so its easy to digest. Finally Br Hijab is turning into a teacher for bigger audience than being a teacher into a school. Allah has his plan and we have our plans but Allah plan supersedes our plan.
A clear definition of what Secularism really is and its power over all religious matters.
Prof. Wael B. Hallaq (وائل حلاق) is a Christian who is one of the world’s leading non Muslim scholarly authorities on Sunni Fiqh (Jurisprudence, Islamic Law) and Islamic intellectual history at Columbia University.
“Let us remember what secularism is. Secularism is not just segregating religious life into the private sphere. It is rather the determination of the state of what religion is and is not, where and how it can be exercised. In terms of political theology, secularism is the murder of God by the State. The state can delimit, limit, exclude or curtail any religious practice, and thus has the power to determine the quality and quantity of the religious sphere as it sees fit. “
Man.. I am so grateful for these lectures. Keep ´em coming, please.
edit: you do in fact know what youve done, you open peoples minds, which they dont want. just like malcolm x and many others
There are also an amazing couple of videos about this topic in the "blogging theology" channel with Imam Tom. They discussed Talal Asad's book about secularism. I recommend everyone watch them.
What has Rishi's 5'5" diminished stature got to do with the point? Allah made him that way.
Please make a chapter of every long videos, then it would be easy to find different parts of lecture.
Paul from Blogging Theology said the French government funds their Church and puts a lot of money into them as well
Mashallah, ❤️ Ustad you are doing of great job. Learned a lot from you.
3:55 a great point raised by brother Hijab. I made a video regarding this on my channel in Urdu, so those that speak Urdu can benefit from it as well
Bruh u producing quality videos with quite low subs. Subbed to u. Where r u from? U sound like kashmiri-Pakistani.
@@StudentOfKnowldge thanks for the sub. Im from Pakistan
We need more of these videos. Wallahi it expands the understanding of our current situation we Muslims living in the west are in. With knowledge we are better equipped than our counterparts
counterparts??? no brother
it’s either/or. Either the aesthetic life, the life of pleasure, the view of all naive sentimentalist egoistic worship of one’s own desires take. If you take this view, you presuppose the very thing you trying to prove, because your orientation is built into your justification or legitimation of that choice.
Secularism is oppressive and no one knows this. Only some Muslims are aware of this, almost all other faiths are co-opted by secularism. Secularism sees itself as the only true consciousness for the individual, and all other faiths as the musk of false consciousness the individual puts on.
Such relevant topic!!
Salam brother Mohammed. Is there anyway to contact you?
Sometimes we just need to remember that the ones attacking Islam are hypocrites many of them.
Often the way to dismantle their arguments is to look back at their own beliefs & systems to reveal the flaws & chaos.
Brother don’t make fun of what is uncontrollable
Suggest books to read
Is it possible to be in these lectures in person
Great lecture brother. Mashallah.
Secularism can exist fine without 1 dominant religion and works well in states that have Christians (protestants and catholics), Atheists, Jews, Hindus and Muslims. It gives all citizens equal rights to vote irrespective of religion. A peaceful coexistence model.
But the secular regime is the dominant "religion."
@@facetofloor I can understand someone calling humanism or agnsticism a beliefs-system like a religion. But secularism is not a beliefs-system. It is just a one-topic issue. Keep religgious leadership separate from law-making.
@@concerned_parentI believe he meant Liberalism, which in this case would make him correct.
@@user-ib9of6dm5n liberalism is not a religion.
@@concerned_parentmany countries have adopted many laws from religious books , how can you keep those laws separate from religion , while it has played important role in constitution … how about those countries? Take example of india , Nepal and turkey like countries !
Today in India govt is interfering in religious matter , So we have a big problem here … and we don’t have an educated politician who can solve such problems 😂
Since there are no longer "islamic empire governments", can secularism benefit a muslim majority country or not? (Separation of church & state)
No the reality is that that's the state of most muslim countries. No Islamic country is run by Islamic government system.
Brilliant dismantlement of the hypocrites.
Thanks brother Mohammed May Allah bless you with long age, good health, wealth and prosperity in your life, and May He increase your in knowledge.
May Allah bless you shaikh.
23:71
وَلَوِ ٱتَّبَعَ ٱلْحَقُّ أَهْوَآءَهُمْ لَفَسَدَتِ ٱلسَّمَـٰوَٰتُ وَٱلْأَرْضُ وَمَن فِيهِنَّ ۚ بَلْ أَتَيْنَـٰهُم بِذِكْرِهِمْ فَهُمْ عَن ذِكْرِهِم مُّعْرِضُونَ ٧١
Had the truth followed their desires, the heavens, the earth, and all those in them would have certainly been corrupted. In fact, We have brought them ˹the means to˺ their glory, but they turn away from it.
- Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran
Secularism grew from the conflicts between competing religions, So it is erroneous to suggest it needs 1 religion. Secularism acknpwledges that no religion is undivided and that most conflicts are between religions who seek to promote their own interests in the laws.
Sekularism allows all citizens equality. If a ing should switch from protestaant to catholic it should not make difference for the citizens.
Jordan switched from Shia to Sunni
MashaAllah great presentation…. I love it brother Secular studies… it’s time to shine the light on them… we are fed the secular narrative from pre-k onward, unaware of the underlying usool or foundational principles that are being ingrained in us… this secular belief system undergirds every aspect western society, education, entertainment, science etc… it’s entire objective is to remove faith as the foundational principle of human experience and endeavor… for example in your last video, you spoke about Europeans dominating less technologically advanced peoples because the development of ballistic weapons etc… this is exactly the understanding that validates their amazing fact of evolution, which is the backbone of secularism, White European Ape men adapted far superior brain activity which allowed them to adopt scientific reasoning, resulting in social and technological domination of inferior peoples… when in fact Allah tells the Prophet peace be upon him in Surah 9:25 I’m paraphrasing, Allah is the one who gave you victory not your great numbers or technology… do you see the subtle but blatant attack on faith… if they can separate Allah as the cause for reason they can put doubt upon the believers by appealing to the ego of men… be aware my brothers it’s necessary to deprogram from this 20 to 30 years of conditioning before we can clearly see the truth.
The idea of secularism is that the state should not be religious. It isn't "to remove faith as the foundational principle of human experience and endeavor" as you wrote. Every citizen is free to worship and to allow religion to be the foundation of his/her life.
@@petraravn5421 my first response would be to ask you a question… where are you from and what is your religious affiliation?
@@petraravn5421 since you didn’t respond to my question let me respond to your statement… ideas are validated by historical facts… Hitler had a idea, Stalin too and so on… let’s not be so naive… who created this idea and after we affirm that, let’s look into the practical application of this idea… when we clearly see that no other people in the history of humanity has brought such a idea, which has resulted in the greatest theft of land and elimination of resources, cultures and peoples (natives of America) the planet has ever seen… now read your story books with a factual interpretation and not the government approved one you got in secular institutions of higher learning, which is quite hard to do with western curriculum… sorry I mean narrative.
@@bilal98ali may Allah unite the hearts of the Muslims! I love you for the sake of Allah brother… salaam
@@RevelationvsDesires brother but removing state and religion should be good .Everyone should follow their religion privately or with their community. The state should not interfere.
I am from India . In mughal era a muslim ruler named akbar also developed secular country way before white people. Saying it is british is wrong.
As usual great work by Muhammad hijab masha allah
Assalamu’alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh
السَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَةُ اللهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ
ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلّٰهِ
Thanks bro
So many words but little clarity and knowledge.
Do more prep please before sharing.
nice lecture
The liberal movement is something that unites the doubters of all religions against the conservatives of all religions
lol who did u steal this from
It would have been good if our brother Hijab would have been in Qatar to give Dawah. I understand though it’s costly!
secularism is not about being anti religion or atheist. (although i'm agnostic &secular) it is about believing in own religion and respecting others. the state(country) shall not have any religion, otherwise it will do discrimination with other faiths.
You didn't study secularism the person who derived this term said secularism is for those people who find theology inadequate it will force morals on you
@@razagamerofficial1859 brother i'm from India and our founding fathers adopted secularism accoding to needs of our society and time. it is different from the western secularism. its not about the terminology but the sprit. democracy and secularism are the needs of present day world not islamic or any other religion's rule.
Liberalism does not undermine secularism. Secularism just means you do not let clerical authority dictate laws.
The reason for separating religion from state is that no religion is united, so there are always rivalling and warring factions. As there are in Islam.
No secular state is united. We see the growing tensions between republicans and democracts
@@sy6553 Secularism allows differences of opinion, as long as the main points are settled at the ballot-box.
Islam creates inequality between men and women, believers and disbelievers, poeple of the book and other disbelievers.
Islam is just a bad system.
@@concerned_parent differences =/= inequalities. Secular states also have inequalities between races or immigrants and natives or rich and poor. For every reason you trash Islamic system it could easily be turned back on secularism
@@sy6553 No system is perfect, but in secularism one can be confident that one has the same basic rights. It is a better starting point then embedding inequality in the laws of the land
@@sy6553 Not that long ago the USA abandoned segregation of whites vs non-whites. Something with which Islam agrees. But the logical conclusion that Jews, Christians, disbelievers who are not of the book, women etc. should all also have legal equality is not shared by Islam. That is a weakness of Islam. Why should women legally be made to sit separately?
Of course, in practice many women may choose to congregate together, but that should not be legally mandatory.
AL7AMDULILAH ☝️
While hijab is getting going on with his carrière.
The goverment who gives hım space to do what he wants to do, is also doing what they like.
Like firavn did at his time, braking nations in parts and take full control over all broken mothernations because all what is broken is weak.
Assalamualaikum
Brother Mohammed Hijab, I respect you and listen to you all the time, but when you insulted Rushi Sunakh for being short, I was perplexed. Why do you insult a man for his physical stature, something he has no say in and cannot improve? It is like insulting the blind and the deaf for being blind and deaf, and is clearly something that goes against the teachings of our religion. May Allah guide all of us.
Who cares? He's a polytheist.
He likes to insult people and their religions and when he gets push back....then he starts playing the victim. And then he appeals for sympathy from the same Woke crowd he was denigrating 5 minutes before.
It's laughably transparent.
@@Americana.Crucesignatus you can't fault Allahs creation no matter what he is, your answer was uncalled for.
@@Americana.CrucesignatusBut his Khaliq is Allah Aza Wa Jal. I know it was a joke, and he was probably (satirically) echoing the sentiment of the average English voter, but the brothers point above stands even though you’re right about the fact that he’s a polytheist.
He's throwing big terms in air
You don't know what you're talking about
لو ترجمت عربي
That was hard brav
Why are you talking like it's a dave music video or something 😭
@@Moe.nadji5 it's all yo mind brav 🤣🤣
@@masihhashimi3543boys moven wet mate
Right I can’t watch anymore. You can’t just say things like if we call liberalism is a religion and therefore it means secularism is undermined. You have to understand the defined terms you are using and not miss lead people. It is based on countless evidence that secular societies thrive the best on the planet. Imagine being Muslim and you’re government was Jewish and they tried to enforce Jewish views as laws you as a Muslim would not allow that. The idea of government being secular means keeping religion out of policies and laws to keep everybody happy whilst at the same time trying to improve everyone’s way of life. Why this is even a topic for discussion is ridiculous. Any Muslim run states are awful to people of different faiths, sexual orientation even women’s rights in those countries. I’m not hating on Muslims as I know it’s not the individual but religion absolutely needs to be kept out of government and schools and other state operated things. Again imagine going to a hospital in a Jewish state run country you would not be allowed blood transfusions that saves countless lives every day
Secular societies thrive the best? What evidence suggests that?
If anything, secularism causes more violence and division in society. The moment you take out religion from policy making, all you're left with is the usage of science and reason on how to deal with societal issues. And all the chaos and destruction that you see in the modern Era, starting from the 1700s, is quite evident of that. Secularism leads to the radical intellectualization of societal issues by use of science and reason and as a result, paves the path for systems that are more anthropocentric like nationalism & capitalism, the two most destructive ideals that have ruined and corroded our social fabric in modern times.
@@mrjoe9545 the freedoms created by secular societies give their citizens a better life. Why do you think people flee their 3rd world religious countries to move to countries like the US or UK or Canada or France. You don’t see people moving to Iran or places like that for a better life do you.
In societies where religion reigns you have higher teenage pregnancies higher cases of child abuse higher cases of rape higher cases of child molestation.
I’m not saying capitalism etc doesn’t have its flaws because it does and has a division between the classes of wealth but you should look into the facts before you suggest differently. Secular societies are inclusive to everyone all it means is laws and state involvement are not governed by religion
@@ashleyoneill304 it is shocking to see how easily you dismiss the very life endangering effects of secularism. The freedoms created by secular societies are almost always exclusive to a group of people and not everyone. If I live in secular Malaysia and am of a different nationality, I'm automatically excluded from having access to so many facilities including healthcare to a certain degree. Or if I'm living in secular saudi, the laws are even harsher simply because I come from a different nationality. If you think all these hyper-nationalistic muslim countries are Islamic, that is sufficient grounds to instantly disqualify you from even talking about wider societal issues.
Also, third world countries are by no means religious. The governments of such so called "religious countries" are highly hedonistic and kleptocratic, which is another byproduct of secularism. Not to say western governments aren't. Homelessness is rising in America, people are losing jobs, quality of life is drastically deteriorating in places like France and Germany, governments are becoming more hedonistic, corporations are taking over, nuclear families are breaking apart due to the capitalistic drive to chase after that high life. How can you be so oblivious to this dark secular reality? Pisses me off tbh. Because I, along with millions of other people around the world, am a victim of this global secular oppression. And when you say such things, I can't help but think that you actually are the enemy of the people.
@@mrjoe9545 I honestly think you don’t know what secular means. Saudi is not a secular country it’s a Muslim run state.
And I assume you are Muslim because you’re commenting on this post but which religion should we allow to run the state then? I assume you wouldn’t like Hindu laws governing how you live as a Muslim? (Again only assuming you’re Muslim).
If we let religious ideas influence policy it destroys freedom and is restrictive. Every possible measure of secular societies and inclusive diverse societies indicates a better way of life for it’s citizens
@@ashleyoneill304 what do you mean by "muslim run state"? Do you mean its constitution is Islamic? Or do you just mean to say that it's a state run by Muslims? Just because a Muslim rules a state doesn't make it Islamic.
Even if it's a Muslim populated state with a predominant Islamic culture, it doesn't have any affect on policy making or the system of governance. And saudis domestic and foreign policies for the last seven decades is enough evidence to suggest that it isn't really Islamic.
Heck its very existence reeks of irreligiosity & secularism. Building a nation state based off materialistic premises like oil, wealth and arabism is contrary to Islam. It's even more secular when you center all your policies around preserving them.
Not to mention, it's very disingenuous of you to make religious societies look restrictive and homogenous. This process of homogenization is only unique to modern secularism and to some extent Christianity. If I was living in pre modern times in a religious hindu society in India, my beliefs, culture and traditions may have been preserved, not corroded by hindu ideals. Same applies to Muslim run societies. Look into the state of jews under Muslim rule.
None of us have ever lived in a premodern religious state. We grew up in secular societies where everyone is forced to be homogenized into a single way of life, which is the secular way of life, to the extent that societies have been coerced, divided and restricted by secular powers to fulfill this agenda.
To take that and to project it onto one of your imaginary religious societies is just nonsense.
clearly even hijab doesnt believe what he says he believes.. he is already a closet atheist but he since there's money in his religion he keeps talking and rationalizing the ridiculousness of his arguments and beliefs
half false
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Superficial
What?
@@Americana.Crucesignatus Superficial means he's only scratching the surface. His arguments are shallow and lacking merit.
@@drmodestoesq Explain
@@Americana.Crucesignatus Hijab's arguments are beset by tribalism.
His tribe (Muslims) are always in the right. And he has a long list of tribal grievances throughout history.
But because his religion is perfect by his definition....when he needs to address his tribes trespasses against other tribes....he just asserts that they weren't real Muslims. But if a Hindu or a Christian trespasses against Muslims...well that's Christians and Hindus, for you.
@@drmodestoesq no he doesn’t assert they’re not Muslim😂😂😂😂. Hijab and Muslims and Islam all acknowledge Muslims are fallible and can mess up. What are you on about.
45 kilo gram🤣🤣 , secularization is religious hypocracy.. nothing else
Jesus is Lord
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No, Mr. Hijab. To be secular is not to be anti religious nor is it atheistic. Got that? It is not those things. It is also not pro-religious, nor theistc. Nope. Secularism, as regards society or governance thereof, respects the maxim that the state, its laws and its authority may neither endorse nor deny religion.
example:
Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof." Is that hard for you to understand? No Muslim society can permit such a restriction on its leadership. In this way, and in many others, Islam is wholly incompatible with secular governance as well as Democratic forms of government reliant in their very construction on secularism as a basis of law.
Lastly, I have never heard such a vacuous treatment of the subjects of secularism, democracy and free expression, as the nonsense you've just vomited. Of course there are no questions. Nothing was actually said.
false
@@heybudstfunowBut it’s literally true
@@tinytank6642 which part huh
@@heybudstfunow That to be secular doesn’t mean to be atheistic
Not basing your laws and government system out of religion is literary rejecting religion. Cause what is the alternative with organic laws? By using a moral system that is based on no divine deity, aka atheism
Islam won't survive. And that makes me happy.
lol 1400 years and going
Lol defeated and dumb
And 10 lies you can tell you yourself, anything that makes you happy sweetheart
If u feel other religions are not worth in Ur country or society then u are not worth listening to
What value do these religions bring to them? None. They don't need it, nor wanting them. There you go.